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Mr & Mrs Smith Hits Small Screen

Mr & Mrs Smith Hits Small Screen

A one-hour pilot of Mr. & Mrs. Smith was just given the green light, which is being described as ” ‘Married … With Children’ with guns.” SERIOUSLY?
Here’s what The Hollywood Reporter is saying:

The film’s writer, Simon Kinberg, penned the pilot script, about John and Jane Smith, a married couple who both work as assassins.

The film’s director, Doug Liman, is on board to helm the pilot and executive produce with Kinberg and Dave Bartis.

The pilot takes place about six months after the events in the 2005 feature starring Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, which grossed more than $186 million in North America. The Smiths have bought a new house in a new suburb and have re-established their businesses, but the attraction and sexual spark they had found at movie’s end has dwindled, and they are back dealing with marital issues.

“In a way, the show is all about the marriage,” Kinberg said. “It is a show about any married couple trying to balance professional and home life.”

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  • deena
  • To guli

    Guli, if you are around, could you perhaps re paste that comment you found on brangelinafans.com regarding feel good charity and those who do it? It mentioned the type of charity men do and the type women pursue. It used Melinda Gates and Angelina as exceptions to the rule.

  • Passing Through

    deena Says:

    January 1st, 2007 at 9:15 pm
    you know, seeing that today’s the first day of 2007, and this is the first thread, maybe we could start a cyber-jar for every time week bring up a certain some one. $1 cyber-dollar for each mention, at the end of the year we will use the cyber-money to fund a cyber-trip to Rio for a New Years Eve vacation.

    ++++++++++

    Good luck trying to collect the money. I’ve already mentioned her once for the purpose of alerting Guli to my fic upload. I’m not paying anybody a buck for mentioning X. As a matter of fact I laughed heartily the other day at the “triangle is over” convo. GMAFB. The triangle will NEVER be over because the rags won’t let it die. And don’t bother with that fans/tabs “it’s a vicious circle” argument because it doesn’t hold water. People who buy and/or subscribe to the tabs are going to buy or subscribe no matter who’s on the cover. People who won’t waste their money on them won’t buy them no matter who’s on the cover. If the tabs stopped printing stories on X it wouldn’t bother me one bit…I’m still not going to like her and I’m still going to make fun of her. If her name comes up, it comes up. Big deal. She will forever be linked to Brad and Angie simply because she was married to him at the time Brad & Angie started falling in love. People who don’t realize that and want to blame the tabs or anyone else for perpetuating the triangle are just ignoring the obvious.

  • deena

    good night all

  • Green
  • To guli

    Never mind, I found it.
    *******************************************

    guli Says:

    December 30th, 2006 at 11:43 am

    Nice post by, http://brangelinafans.blogspot.com/

    Thanks for the Xmas well wishes, I had a nice holiday break, and I hope you did too! While all of us were with our families or just chilling out at home watching DVDs, Brad and Angelina were up to their charitable ways again in Costa Rica with some refugees at a shelter. Don’t these folks take a break, even for Christmas? Nope.

    As I was reading my ***** magazine, issue #34 ‘Green’, I read an article titled, “Egos Without Borders – Mapping the new celebrity Philanthropy” (page 23 if you want to read it at the book store). And of course I knew they would mention Angelina as an example and they used her in a very positive light too.

    Some of us here at BF know the difference between the sincere efforts that Angelina and Brad give into their causes and they have not only donated money and neat material gifts, but they got down and dirty in a few countries and really have walked the walk! The causes they speak on behalf of are not fads for them, they are committed to them for a very long time. However, in this article in ***** magazine, the phrase “feel-good philanthropy” was introduced to me. According to the author, Summer Wood, there is a difference between the do gooders who donate in the short term for a cause and obtain a personal self-satisfaction from it, and there are those who are militant about it and do it as if their life depended on helping those who are less fortunate. Here’s a snipet from the article:

    “But in recent years, as more and more public figures enter the philantrhropic fray, it appears that male and female celebrities are going about their good deed in strikingly different and gender-stereotypical ways. Generally speaking, men like Bill Gates, George Clooney, and Bono are using their wealth and influence to advocate for specific policy reforms and U.S. political action on issues such as health, foreign aid, and trade. Meanwhile, female celebrities like Oprah, Drew Barrymore, Meg Ryan, and Lucy Liu (to name just a few recent examples) promote a feel-good, totally apolitical mode of philanthropy, in which women are encouraged to consider the plight of people in the developing world as a way (in part) to feel better about their own lives, and to pursue only small, relatively ineffectual solutions to the world’s problems.

    While women like Melinda Gates and Angelina Jolie are notable exceptions to this trend (both speak out regularly, and knowledgeably, on policy issues affecting the health of women in developing nations and have donated large sums of their own money to charitable causes), the brand of philanthropy promoted by many female celebs sends a troubling message to their fans about what the average person can do to help. With feel-good philanthrophy, there’s no need to call your elected representatives, attend a rally, or even spend a few minutes each day reading the international news in order to better understand the issues at hand. Give, but give just a little, and then sit back and reap the emotional rewards.”
    Reading this article really laid out the comparison between what celebrity X does and what celebrity W does. The way Angelina goes about her philanthropic interests is more admirable to me than someone going into a hospital ward in South Africa and giving the ill women there some makeup kits, or buying a piece of jewelry designed to act as a fundraiser tool against world hunger and sold for $24.99, but only $5 going to the actual cause. So when cynics say that Angelina is doing all her hard work for PR, I want to tell them to piss off because what she does is not easy. It’s emotionally draining, physically challenging, and it costs money: the more you have, the more you can afford to give w/o straining your own bank account. But in the long run, her kind of help is actually helping people and giving them what they really need: the care and the true attention that their plight needs.
    Labels: costa rica, philanthropy

    posted by Gossipfan @ 12:53 PM

  • Curious

    Why do so many black women hate Oprah? Why do we question everything she does?We don’t question Angies motives like we question Opra. I love Oprah and Angie for the great works they slave at. I think that the hate towards O is a case of FAMILIARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT.

  • Passing Through

    maja Says:
    January 1st, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    what’s YG, how do I get there?

    ==============

    AddictedtoBAMZs Says:
    January 1st, 2007 at 9:34 pm
    Passing Through…how can those of us not involved with the YG thing read it?

    +++++++++

    Maja – The YG is a private Yahoo Group we started when Jared was having server problems a few months ago.

    Addicted and anyone else who doesn’t belong to the YG – if you want to read it send me an e-mail at RealityChick691@yahoo.com and I’ll send it to you as a text file.

  • Happy New Year!

    Green Says:

    January 1st, 2007 at 10:06 pm
    http://www.vh1.com/movies/movie/267402/news/articles/1548495/feature.jhtml
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Thanks, I copied the text of the interview. I hope you don’t mind. :)
    Inteview with Angie:

    Was it intimidating to be directed by Robert De Niro?

    Matt and I both talked about it. We were terrified! In some ways, it’s very comforting, because you know he’s going to help you and you know he’s got great instincts. But you’re very nervous to be with somebody you consider to be the best at what you’re trying to do. He knows if you hit a false note. And he knows when you’re not working hard enough. But he was so supportive.

    How did you feel about aging in the film?

    In this business people have strong opinions about how people should look, but I love to see my face get old in a movie. There’s something very comforting about portraying yourself as an older women. Playing Clover in The Good Shepherd was a little different. Hopefully I won’t break apart as she did. You may not have noticed it, but I had to age as an alcoholic, so if you look closely at her, there are a lot of broken capillaries. We had these big yellow contacts and yellow teeth I had to wear. So this is what I will look like at 50 if I start drinking! But my mom is aging gracefully, so if I’m anything like my mother …

    What do you like most about being a mom?

    I just love my kids, but I think any parent is going to say that. My children are so interesting. I love talking to them. Now Madd is at an age where he writes me
    letters, and we have the greatest conversations. Zahara, too. She’s just the funniest, craziest little person. Last night we were just sitting there watching her and we were in hysterics! That’s the joy of life. They’re just fun!

    How does living a life under a lens affect you as a parent?

    I made a point to not change the way I live my life, other than carefully plan my holidays. I want to ensure some kind of quality of life that’s private and nice for everybody. The only time it’s hard is when the kids want to go somewhere. I’ve had so many people offer to take my children to places that I can’t take them, like Disneyland. They don’t understand how upsetting that is. I want to take my kids trick or treating, and do things that they assume I can’t do. So we try to find ways to do all of those things.

    When did you last take your kids trick or treating?

    This year we were in India, so we had this really odd celebration in the hotel. We had candy and costumes sent up from the States. Brad wore a really big Afro and I had dreadlocks. [Laughs.] We were trying to explain to the Indians what it was, but they just thought we were having fun with dress-up.

  • QQQQ

    Curious Says: January 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pm – is there a LAW that says Black women have to LIKE Okra????? Good for you that u like her…..

  • Curious

    Dragonfly-you made a good point about the boys being shut out. We need people like Will Smith, Jay Z ,Denzel,Michael Jordan,Tiger woods to build an Academy for the young young men. They need love to.

  • To PT says

    Got it can’t wait to read it, many thanks ;-)

  • pdawg

    To do something selfless and wonderful for someone that needs it should never be questioned. You do not have to like or respect Oprah, but the fact that these young girls will benefit from this is the most important thing. The same goes for Angie and Brad. Stop being small minded and look at the big picture. People will benefit greatly from their work, and that’s all that really matters.

  • lylian

    Since the vogue interview from Angelina came out, Some people have argued that Angelina lured Brad by talking to him about her values, her beliefs etc. Too intimate.

    I’ve been meaning to post my views for a while and here it is. On the one hand, I believe it would be inappropriate for a spouse to talk about his/her relationship to an unmarried person of the opposite sex (usually along the lines of –“She/he doesn’t understand me”). But Angelina was careful to point out in her interview that she didn’t know the workings of brad and Jennifer’s marriage. She and Brad talked about what we both wanted in life and realized that they wanted very, very similar things.

    Was Angelina’s and Brad discussions really too intimate?? I think not. We reveal a lot of our true values and belief systems, what we want from life, when we speak about things that matter to us. Many of these topics are perfectly acceptable conversations to have with a colleague at work. Conversations about how we view work, what we think about a particular boss, our interests or passions and our children. For example, lets say a co-worker tells me how she spent her week end with her children, what she had enjoyed doing with them etc. Did she stick them in front of the TV? Did she take them out to the zoo and have a fantastic time with them feeding the elephants and riding on the horse carriage?? Another person tells me about her hobbies, her charities, why they interest her, why she believes in them, what she wants to do in the future – run her own business, what sort of business. These conversations can reveal a lot about you. Even discussions on this board reveals a lot more of our values, what we think and why we think than I would care to actually reveal at times. You can build a complex and accurate picture of a person when you have very non controversial, non intimate conversations so long as both parties are prepared to be honest and open and not too quick to judge.

    And if you ever hear how a mother disciplines her children, explains things to her children, you get a lot of information about her values. This is particularly important. One of my good friends told me that she tells her children that she works part time because she loves her work, she enjoys the challenge of work. She told me that she never tells her child that she works because she needs the money because (a) its not entirely true though they are not rich and the extra money helps; and (b) the truth is, she loves her work and sees nothing wrong in spending part of her life away from her children doing something she absolutely works and (c) she wants her children to love their work too. This tells me a lot about my friend and her values. Yet, no part of this conversation is inappropriate between friends, whether it be male or female.

    That’s what I believe happened with Angelina and Brad. They talked about her charities, her work, what she thought about the politics in America, the influence of conservative Christians on the political agenda, the direction of the bush administration – all perfectly acceptable topics of discussion with a co worker with whom one is on friendly terms. Most particularly, Brad also saw Angelina interacting with Maddox, saw how she disciplined him, heard how she explained things to him. People have said that Maddox was the reason why Brad went for Angelina. In a way, they are right. Not that Brad wanted Maddox and the only way he could get to Maddox was through Angelina. But rather, in watching Angelina with Maddox, he saw the real Angelina and fell for her.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    The bulk of M&MS was filmed by April 04 so I’m guessing that it might be then when Brad and Angelina realised that may be, they had stronger feelings for each other then they would care to admit, even to themselves. My guess is, when that realisation hit him, Brad told Jen about it – pretty much as soon as he was able to face up to his feelings. That’s why Jen said that she knew her marriage was over around mid June 04, when she was filming RHI. However, according to Courtney, Brad did try to fight his feelings for a while, and that probably why they tried to patch things up by going on their European vacation whilst promoting Troy. However, what ever was wrong with that marriage could not be fixed – at least not from Brad’s perspective.

    Was Brad therefore a man who was not committed to his marraige?? From Courtney’s own words, we know Brad didn’t just walk out on Jennifer. Even though he was deeply attracted to another woman he stayed and tried to work it out with Jennifer.

    The essential question for some people is, which question did Brad asked himself as he stayed to work out his marriage – was it: “Would I be happier out of this marriage then in it?” or was it: “Would I be happier out of this marriage with Jennifer and in a relationship with Angelina”.

    I’m inclined to believe that Brad asked himself the first question ie. Would I be happier out of this marriage then it it? Reason?? Because

    (a) both Jennifer (VF Interview) and Brad said there was no 3rd party involved in the decision to break up (never let it be said I think Brad is a liar).

    (b) I’m very sure that the marriage was very rocky by 2003 when he went to film Troy in Malta – apart for months and she has to force herself to fly out to meet him?? Come on…. Not from my experience.

    (c) Brad didn’t just walk out on Jennifer when he realised that he was attracted to Angelina, he tried to work it out with Jennifer for a period of time.

    (d) when Brad left Jennifer, there was no guarantee that anything would work out with Angelina. I don’t believe either Brad or Angelina, with 3 marriages which went on the rocks between them, living in Hollywood, were particularly starry eyed and idealistic about what could go wrong in any relationship in Hollywood.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    So then, here is the other question, should Brad have stayed with Jennifer because Brad married her as she was probably happy to stay Mrs Brad Pitt. Hence all the talk about marriage vows etc.

    To me, to stay in an unsatisfactory marriage, a marriage where both parties can spend months apart without yearning for the other, when there are no children involved, where they are both financially independant, is TOTALLY MASOCHISTIC. I wouldn’t do it and I certainly don’t expect other people to. And for those whiners who think he should have stayed in an unsatisfactory marriage where no children were involved because he made a marriage vow, well, I can only say, more then 50% of married couples don’t – many with children. Why should Brad be held on a higher standard? Did their marriage vow even include the “till death do us apart”?? I’m not sure. I do know from interviews that they both gave that they described their marriage as a grand experiment, a merger, that when you come from a home with a broken marriage, its hard to believe in happily ever after.

  • Curious

    QQQQ- I did not say that black women have to like Oprah. Just asked a question. Don’t want to argue,leave off with the attitude sometimes, every question is not asked with malice. This the intellectual board,right? This is why I asked the question here.

  • annie

    According to NEWSWEEK the 1/8/2007 issue OPRAH’ s girls school will have a grand opening, in attendance will be Julia Roberts, John Travolta,Stevie Wonder Nelson Mandella and Angelina Jolie.

  • kidi

    They can never replicate the chemistry and charisma of Brad and Angie in a weekly TV show. Impossible.

  • me

    Curious Says:

    January 1st, 2007 at 10:08 pm

    Why do so many black women hate Oprah? Why do we question everything she does?We don’t question Angies motives like we question Opra. I love Oprah and Angie for the great works they slave at. I think that the hate towards O is a case of FAMILIARITY BREEDS CONTEMPT.
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………….

    I’m not black so my comment might be considred invalid but I’ll say it anyway. I don’t hate Oprah but I do have concerns about the way she approaches her charity work. It’s okay to voice criticism as long as it is considered constructive. What Dragonfly and Lylian said, I consider that constructive criticism and they are voicing their opinion, which is what this blog is about.

    I find that Oprah is a bit self centered and believes in her own hype. For proof, look at how she handled the James Frey and Hermes incident. After Oprah’s fans lambasted her on her message boards for supporting James , only then did she go after James Frey. I didn’t think it was necessary for her to go after him on her show the way she did, but she did because she was more worried about what the public thought, rather than going with her convictions. She instantly claimed racism over the Hermes incident because they didn’t her allow into the store after it was closed. The CEO had to come on her show and apologize, all because she is Oprah.
    She financed the building of this $40 million school because SHE wanted a school built that was according to HER childhood dreams. She put her own desires before the needs of the kids. It’s her money and she can do what she wants with it, but it grates me that she passes that off as charity she did for the KIDS. The whole point of helping others is to put your worries and desires aside and help OTHERS in need and support them in a way that is in THEIR best interest. It’s not about putting your own fantasies first before doing what could help the people in the greatest way possible with the resources you have. It’s about helping the maximum amount of people with the help you can provide and not being selective with who is eligible to recieve help.

    Whenever you set out to help people, I believe it’s necessary to do research about what you are doing. Oprah places her emotions first and foremost before facts and logic. Emotions have their place and if a person’s heart isn’t in the work they are doing, then it’s not worth it. But research and knowledge about issues are also important. For a woman with Oprah’s stature and taking into consideration about the large number of people that follow her lead and rely on her to look for ways they can help, you would think she would be more responsible with the way she chooses to pursue her chariatable contributions. She is Oprah because so many people look up to her. She has been given her wealth and stature by the public that tunes into listen to her for advice, so I certainely would hope she would take the burden placed on her shoulders by her fans more seriously.

  • QQQQ

    Curious Says: January 1st, 2007 at 10:30 pm – u asked a ? and i answered…

  • QQQQ

    me Says: January 1st, 2007 at 10:41 pm – Great Post and ITA…
    especially this part

    “She financed the building of this $40 million school because SHE wanted a school built that was according to HER childhood dreams. She put her own desires before the needs of the kids. It’s her money and she can do what she wants with it, but it grates me that she passes that off as charity she did for the KIDS.”

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  • http://JustJared.com queenbee

    annie Says:
    January 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pm
    According to NEWSWEEK the 1/8/2007 issue OPRAH’ s girls school will have a grand opening, in attendance will be Julia Roberts, John Travolta,Stevie Wonder Nelson Mandella and Angelina Jolie.
    _____________________________________________________
    Jan 8th is Zahara’s birthday, brad is accepting an award in Palm Springs Jan 7th, and is due back on the BB set soon. Seeing how this family goes everywhere together I very much doubt angie will be in South Africa. But hey I could be wrong.

  • 99³

    She financed the building of this $40 million school because SHE wanted a school built that was according to HER childhood dreams.
    She put her own desires before the needs of the kids.
    It’s her money and she can do what she wants with it, but it grates me that she passes that off as charity she did for the KIDS. The whole point of helping others is to put your worries and desires aside and help OTHERS in need and support them in a way that is in THEIR best interest. It’s NOT about putting your own fantasies first before doing what could help the people in the greatest way possible with the resources you have. It’s about helping the maximum amount of people with the help you can provide and not being selective with who is eligible to recieve help.
    ~~~~~~~~~~

    very well said. i love it.

  • AddictedtoBAMZs

    Maybe Angie will bring Zahara with her. It would be appropriate since Z was born in Africa. It is true they are seldom apart, but not unthinkable.

  • lylian

    pdawg Says:
    January 1st, 2007 at 10:29 pm
    To do something selfless and wonderful for someone that needs it should never be questioned. You do not have to like or respect Oprah, but the fact that these young girls will benefit from this is the most important thing. The same goes for Angie and Brad. Stop being small minded and look at the big picture. People will benefit greatly from their work, and that’s all that really matters.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    In case you are addressing me, I just want to clarify, that I absolutely respect and applaud Oprah’s CONTRIBUTION. I look forward to seeing if her CONTRIBUTION will lead to the SUCCESS that she envisions. These are 2 different things.

    Oprah is not just trying to give these girls the best in life because she wants them to have the best in life. Oprah is giving these economically disadvantaged girls the best because she wants them to contribute their best in return, as leaders, as members of their community. Believe me, I want her to succeed.

    What she is trying to do is experimental. I am merely saying that I don’t know if her experiment will be a success, whether she is going to get the big bang for her bucks – which will only be revealed in the future. Most of us will live to see the returns.

    What is NOT experimental is giving education to the masses. The benefit of mass education is WELL DOCUMENTED in every socieity. I do know from the experience of my parents is that, the humble school, with teachers who had a mere 6 years of education, and minimal facilities (chalk board, and a few books), could give people like my parents (who are themselves, the children of illiterates) the chance to succeed – to become teachers and civil servants and professionals and move into the middle class. And I and my husband who went to government schools in a 3rd world country, scrambling an education for ourselves in a class of 50 students, can do as well as those of my friends who went to Eton or Melbourne Grammar. That is simply a fact.

    So, whilst I applaud Oprahs contribution, we have yet to see if Oprahs contribution will lead to success beyond what we can expect if she spent 20m less on that school. I believe we will know because this school and its students will be the subject of studies for many years to come. This is good because there is room in the debate about how we educate our young, about the sort of schooling necessary to maximise benefit to every level of society.

  • http://celebritysource.blogspot.com/ Courtney

    I love that movie! Its one of my favorite movies.

  • annie

    Queenbie, The Opening to Oprah’s school is 1/2/2007 and the newsweek magazine featuring Oprah story is on newstand 1/8/2007.

  • Curious

    Me-This your opinion and I respect it. It seem to be very thought out and honest.

    But ,I must say that everyone has a their way of doing things and I guess we will not be able to satisfy all the people all the time. At least she tries to help for whatever reason. I don’t look at the reasons so much because sometimes you can get people wrong. If it is for emotional reasons,emotions can come from the heart. I look at the benefits the person in need recieve from from the thoughts of another human being. I hope and pray that the girls benefit greatly and become well educated women. Im sure that they will give back to their community,country,world.

  • BCBG

    I need some help on youtube.
    what program do you use, Flash, or window’s movie maker?
    what is the best site, best book, best program to learn how to put video on youtube?

    any suggestion will be much appreciated.

  • daniella

    for those of you who have a problem with OPRAH using her own money to invest in people who are in need what is your answer to ending poverty in AFRICA and how and when do you plan to implement it.

  • Missouri Fan

    Thank you TO all the posters on this first 2007 thread.

    Reposting this video for those who would like to see it again.
    I’m loving it more & more, for me SHE truly GLOWS!!

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=BoNG9ScDuaU

    Again: HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!

    Off to bed…

  • Amaya

    Hey guys, I hope you all had a great New Year’s :)

    About the MAMS show…I’m skeptical because of the chemistry and also, because of Simon Kinberg. As we all know there were a lot of rewrites and deleted scenes which is fine if you’re filming a movie but I don’t know how that’s going to work out with the breakneck pace of television production.

  • Missouri Fan

    Micro, I will be your first subscriber!!

    Good night!
    Off

  • truth

    This is my contribution to helping others. You cannot help everybody, you can only help people you feel like helping. We are not sent to everybody. I personally check out Angie’s charity because I feel connected to her. I applaud other people who do other things I don’t feel a connection to them but I wish them the best.

  • http://deleted Marla

    Oh God, can people just be positive! Angelina and Brad are doing wonderful things. Oprah Winfrey has just done a wonderful thing. Why anybody here would bash anyone for doing a good deed is just pathetic. You guys are going “too deeply” into this because more than likely you can’t stand Oprah Winfrey. You’re saying:

    “SHE wanted a school built that was according to HER childhood dreams.”

    I read what Oprah said. She wants these girls to feel beautiful. It’s as simple as that. She is not being selfish, but imagining what she can do for them to really boost their morale. She was a girl once herself so I think she can relate very well. What is wrong with trying to make these young ladies feel special? Many of them were raped and abused and have very little self esteem left. Oprah is going the extra mile. She’s adding special touches to let them know someone cares about them. It’s obvious that Oprah wants them to have happier lives.

    Why doesn’t “Extreme Makeover” just build people simple homes or homes that suit the purpose? Why build fabulous homes with lots of extra touches like pools, gymnasiums and fancy kitchens? Those people don’t need all that do they?

    Thank you. That show is also trying to make people’s dreams come true. Oprah is also doing that for these girls. You can hate this woman for all the other reasons that you do, but sorry, I think you are wrong on this one.

  • daniella

    It is true if you go on newsweek.com it reports info. on Oprah’s story Aand in the story it stated that Angelina jolie will be one f the attedees at the school opening among others like julia roberts and john travolta.

  • alero

    What do you like most about being a mom?
    Happy New Year! Says:

    January 1st, 2007 at 10:14 pm
    I just love my kids, but I think any parent is going to say that. My children are so interesting. I love talking to them. Now Madd is at an age where he writes me
    letters, and we have the greatest conversations. Zahara, too. She’s just the funniest, craziest little person. Last night we were just sitting there watching her and we were in hysterics! That’s the joy of life. They’re just fun!

    ******
    How sweet that Maddox writes letters to Angelina. I can just see her and Brad sitting on the floor hanging out with the kids.

  • Frenchy

    HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! Espcially the oldtimers. Remember the old black interface that JJ had? How long ago was that? It was so hard to read. LOL!!!

    Wishng you and yours a HEALTHY, PROSPEROUS and PEACEFUL NEW YEAR!

    JJ & Audrey I wish you continued success in 2007 on this blog.

    Early brthday wishes to BAMZS fans who have birthdays coming up this week. Capricorn’s Rock!

    That TV version of M&MS is gonna be corny. The focus of the tv show will be the assasinations and the marriage problems being the running gag for the series. I bet you every episode will be like the old Charlie’s Angels show where the principals get their assignments and that assignment is the episode or they can do it like 24 & have the assasination target set up at the beginning of the series and the whole run of the show will be M&MS plotting to get their targets (yawn).

    Where are the media getting information that Angelina will be at Oprah’s SA school? I think it’s a media tactic to get eyes on that opening, just like the Mayor of that Italian city used Brad & Angelina’s name to bring publicity to his town with talk of a wedding? Maybe the media are buying into the rumor of a wedding in SA (Hello Larry King) even after Angelina said there was no wedding. Maybe they have this crazy logic that because Oprah is opening a school in Africa that Brad & Angelina MUST OBVIOUSLY be there as well. Like they are the only people with any connection to Africa. What about Leo DiCaprio or Djimon Honsou or Harry Belafonte? How come their names weren’t dragged into this whole Oprah production? By the way Angelina started a school in Cambodia about 2 years ago I think and another vocational sewing school for girls in Kenya. No many know about these becasue she did it “quietly”. Anyway, it’s gonna be an interesting upcoming two week. But isn’t it always with our favorite couple?

    14 DAYS UNTIL THE GOLDEN GLOBES.

  • QQQQ

    Everyone is entitled to their opinions

  • Andrómeda

    I´m not sure about the idea of making a show about Mr and Mrs Smith…how is it going to be?
    Love the movie, God the chemestry between them was unbelivable!

  • truth

    Brad and Angie’s names are used for publicity. Remember the hotel in Italy that kept leaking info that Brad and Angie were getting married there. Brad and Angie were also supposed to be at TomKat’s wedding. I believe Oprah probably met the JP’s at New York when they attended a function with Bill Clinton. If they are invited, they are just too busy to attend at this time of the year, I’m sure JP’s will send their well wishes.

  • malibumom

    Stopped in for a sec-Cliniqua, u r right Peta and Roy could rock it-I love lafemme Nikita-Curious-I am black-I do not hate Oprah-I am not a fan of hers anymore-When I was a stay at home mom-I really bought inot a lot of what her show was about-I even had a subscription-I believe her influence has empowered many women-I believe she came from a place in her life where she needed polishing because she wasn certainly a diamond in the rough-she then tried to reach back and help all women no matter what color, polish themselves and hold their heads up despite what life has given handed them. This works for some and for some it does not. I appreciate O’s efforts. But here is my problem-when you are in a certain position you have an obligation to yourself-and those you are purposefully trying to influence-I find O’s shows to be superficial and full of fluff these days-I used to do research-the most significant aspect of measuring progress is being able to adequately identify exactly what your deficiencies are what is needed to change the status-using the example of her building a school in Africa, I wonder if the families of the girls could use a house that is adequately furnished? I wonder could they use a garden out back so they could have food-I wonder if the mom and aunts in that family could use a few sewing machines, material boats and notions-I just took care of food-clothing and shelter-education is important, but basic necessities are crucial-I believe Maslow was accurate when he stated that we cannot move to self-actualization until we first satisfy certain needs, with the most basic of those needs being physical needs-As some stated before, It’s Oprah’s money, but wow-if I had that money I would start right in the city I live in. I would pay every educational loan off for teachers, fireman, policeman and healthcare workers-I would then pay off all of their mortgages-then I would find families with hardworking parents and children who were doing well in school-I would pay off their mortgage and fully fund the educations of their kids-You see I believe we need to start helping those who are the backbone of this country-we need to stop wasting tax dollars and charitable contributions on ppl who will never put back in what they take out-we need to get a totally new definition of charity-jmho

  • me

    Curious Says:

    January 1st, 2007 at 11:11 pm
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    I’ll applaud anyone who is willing to help . But you asked a question and I was voicing my concern about Oprah’s work. And it’s just that, a concern, not a denouncement of her contributions. I did not intend to make it come out as if I was denouncing or degrading her work, but I am concerned. Anytime, a person is willing to make such a large contribution, they should think about the consequences it will have. The girls who will recieve an education at that school are very lucky and I have no doubt that they will grow up to be intelligent women one day.

    But what happens when only certain children are allowed the privelege of getting a sublime educational experience? What kind of consequences will that have on the community and on the kids who will grow up without that opportunity to better their minds?

    I’m talking about long term consequences here. When you have a small population of bright girls who are the only ones who will be given such an education, will the burden lie on them to help the others when they grow up to women? And since they will be the ones who will grow up to be bright women, will they be expected to lead an illiterate group of people? What kind of community will that create? Is it that the knowledgeable adults will lead the community and the uneducated will be expected to follow blindly? Is that putting too much power into certain people’s hand? Shouldn’t the citizens in a community all be educated so they can all contribute to society and make informed decisions regarding their own lives?

    And what kind of community is that where a certain group of individuals will be given the best education and taught to think in a progressive way while the rest of the kids continue to be told to follow in the regressive ways of their ancestors? Won’t that create a huge gap between the kind of beliefs people will hold? Will the differences create a clash?

    And while those girls are being empowered with knowledge, and the belief that they can do anything they put their minds to, what will the boys be learning? Will those boys be taught to lead life as their ancestors have? Will they easily give those girls who grow up to be women their rights?

    As lylian pointed out, this is a grand experiment on Oprah’s part, but the question is, is it worth the risk or the consequences it will create. To tell you the truth, I’m not sure.

  • Curious

    QQQQ what are you doing that is so prim and proper to help out mankind?I’m sure everyone will have everything positive to say about your good intentions.

    YOUR BEST INTENTIONS CAN END UP BEING YOUR WORST ACCUSATION.

  • high

    I’m not gonna like the show.. I aready know it. I loved this movie though.

  • Frenchy

    I went to the newsweek article and they said that Angelina is “expected” to be there. My question: Says who? And they called Angelina The African Queen. Why?
    In the same article a picture of Oprah has the caption that says “African Queen”. now which one is it? LOL!!!! here’s the link to the article:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16396343/site/newsweek/

  • BCBG

    the extreme makeover has to be dramatic for AUDIENCE. If they just build plain vanilla house, who’s gonna watch the show. No audience, no show, the show will be cancelled.

    to me, i also think about “how to best allocate the resouces”, therefore, i feel building many many smaller schools will yield better results than just 1 grandeur school.

    But any charity is good charity, it’s her money. she can do what she pleased. If i have that budget, i will do it differently.

  • Anon

    lylian Says:

    January 1st, 2007 at 10:30 pm
    Since the vogue interview from Angelina came out, Some people have argued that Angelina lured Brad by talking to him about her values, her beliefs etc. Too intimate…

    Lylian,
    I really loved your post and your insightful comments. I can imagine it happening the way you described it. Actually I had a similar experience. I was engaged to be married when I fell in love with a colleague who I got to know very well at work. We became very close friends and we did fight our feelings in deference to my fiance but in the end we decided to be honest about our feelings with each other. We did reach a point of this awareness that our seemingly innocent friendship was verging on the dangerous emotional attachment. But by then we both felt that we were too far gone with each other that we ended up eloping and getting married (and we are now married for almost 20 years!). I always have this guilt that I had changed and tranferred my affection so suddenly. I can speak from experience that one does not really fall in love with two people at the same time with the same intensity.

    My fascination with Angie and Brad came partly from this experience. They have a deep and abiding affection for each other, share the same values and goals, and their love for their kids should ensure the longevity and success of their relationship.

  • ntt

    me Says:
    January 1st, 2007 at 10:41 pm
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    lylian Says:
    January 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pm
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    I love your posts, and I agree with both of you, although in my previous post, I may sound like I don’t. I understand that Oprah may do a disservice to those girls by uprooting them, elevating them way above the people where they came from, with no warranty of them being accepted by the elite class of South Africa after their formation, and therefore making them into pariahs, not fitting anywhere. My hope is that the school will instill in them a very strong sense of duty towards their people and their country, otherwise they will just feel like their talent is going to waste, and they will end up migrating to first world countries instead of staying in Africa to help. I hope Oprah will expand her project to include education for more kids in Africa, not just South Africa. All in all, I haven’t given up on Oprah yet, even though I am not a fan of hers (if that could be possible).

  • Curious

    Me- I feel you. Burden is nothing new to these girls. Through out the world some people are priviledge, some of these girls may no fare very,but some of them will. but i know for sure that this school is far better than the life they are living now. She cannot ruin their life anymore than the tradgedy they are living now. She can’t save all of them. All of these girls and many more have a deep desire to be educated. They will not take it for granted or squander it.