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King Pitt cradles both his children — Prince Pax, 3, and Princess Zahara, 2 — simultaneously after picking them up from school at the American Embassy compound on Thursday in Prague, Czech Republic.

Said one paparazzo hoping to catch Brad with Angelina Jolie at Cannes: “We’re hoping at some stage the two of them might turn up together. But they do tend to keep apart if they’ve got different films to publicize, so we’ll just have to wait and see.”

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# 1

He is one hot papa :) And that shot of him holding both Pax and Zee is definitely going to be in my next video.

# 2

Great Pics as usual! Thanks so much JJ!!

# 3

Is this the newest thread? I am confursed anyway, thanks JJ.
Love this family. :-)

# 4

love this family

much much love !!!!

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queeneetha @ 05/17/2007 at 10:56 pm

Love this family!

# 6
queeneetha @ 05/17/2007 at 10:58 pm

we just said it and sent our love around the world…..

# 7

Finally, I am 4th!!!….
Brad is one strong Dad, no wonder all his kids safe in his arm!

# 8

Boy, Jared, you are so busy today! How many new threads so far? Can’t keep up anymore!

Anyhoo, love Braddy so much, even more sexy now that he is a father four times over!!!!

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Baz Bamigboye: Why Angelina’s leaving the jollies for later
by BAZ BAMIGBOYE – More by this author »

Last updated at 22:48pm on 17th May 2007

Angelina Jolie has banished any celebratory party for the film about the search for Daniel Pearl, the Wall Street Journal journalist who was kidnapped, and later murdered

Angelina Jolie has banished any celebratory party for the film about the search for Daniel Pearl, the Wall Street Journal journalist who was kidnapped, and later murdered, in Pakistan five years ago.

In A Mighty Heart, Angelina portrays Pearl’s widow Mariane, who at the time of his abductionwas pregnant with their son Adam.

The film’s having its world premiere on Monday night at the Cannes Film Festival and, from what I can gather, director Michael Winterbottom has brought a raw and sensitive touch to the story.

Angelina saw the film recently and declared that it would be inappropriate to have ‘dancing and singing and carrying on’ after it is shown in Cannes.

Instead, the cast, which includes British actress Archie Panjabi with Dan Futterman as Daniel Pearl, will have a quiet dinner with Winterbottom, producer Andrew Eaton and Brad Pitt, whose film company backed the picture.

They will be joined by the real-life Mariane Pearl, who will be travelling from her home in Paris. She has already seen the picture, as have Pearl’s parents in the U.S..

Mariane and Angelina have become firm friends since Mrs Pearl gave her approval for the Oscar-winning actress to portray her.

However, I notice there has been a lot of spiteful internet chatter asking why a Caucasian actress was chosen to play a non-fictional woman of Cuban heritage.

I guess it comes down to a director picking the best actor to do the job, and race shouldn’t come into it – and as I said, Mrs Pearl has no worries about it.

Still, I’m intrigued it has become the topic of such heated – and sometimes nasty – debate on the web

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BradAngMadZShiPaxLove @ 05/17/2007 at 11:03 pm

Thanks Jared…YAY! more Sexy Papa Pitt and his children..Wonderful..all is well…

Mr and Mrs Smith @ 05/17/2007 at 11:04 pm

Thanks Jared. I can see you are busy today with all these threads. Still, I won’t complain. Maddox is so cute with his cute smile. I wonder what Zee is saying while pointing to whatever they are looking at. Pax is just taking it all in. Cool.

BAMPZS for Ever @ 05/17/2007 at 11:05 pm

He is in heaven. This is what he wanted for years and thanks to Angie his dream came true. We all enjoy your family and thanks for making us realize that good folks like you really can make a difference and encourage us to do the same.

thank you lylian @ 05/17/2007 at 11:05 pm

lylian Says:

May 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pm – flag comment
FOR SARAICITA: thought I’d bring my comments over to the new thread:

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lylian Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pm – flag comment
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saraicita Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 12:47 pm – flag comment
Saraicita, you can google on libel/slander and click on Wikipedia’s explanation. It is actually very very good. It compares UK and US law. However, there is not much mention of Spanish law. Not sure if spanish law is based on the Napoleonic Code or not.

I’m also a lawyer and I wrote a rather long piece about why paid trolls probably do exist and why the threat of a law suit isn’t gonna be enough to put off publicists and tablies from PAYING trolls to make comments in an old thread.
Here it is:)
OK first, I’m here to say, no more responding to the trolls because I’m convinced there are paid trolls here paid either by publicists or tablies. Why??

I read the “article” from US magazine about the alleged lap dancing Angelina did with an old friend, Olivier and thought of our old friend ‘interesting” (and oxymoronic moniker for her, don’t you think??). My first thoughts were, this poster’s used the words “baby sitting, doing the wrong thing by Brad, etc etc.” Remember those? Then lo and behold, out pops an article on US weakly about exactly this topic using exactly the same words, with exactly the same sentiments. Call me lainey but “Coincidence or conspiracy?? Which is it, you decide”. I’m on the conspiracy side.

I came to this conclusion after doing some research. I read the comments from 2 sources in an older thread with interest. One from Sheri about how Huvane would not hire people to post on sites because of the legal risks of being sued for slander or libel. Because Sheri works for a large media company, I did pause to rethink my opinion that Huvane pays trolls. The other poster had found information on astroturfing and people that offer services to influence opinions and perceptions on the net.

Whether these trolls are paid for by Huvane or paid for by these disgusting tablies I don’t know. But I’m absolutely certain there are paid trolls are astroturfing on Just Jared. I don’t think its just the case of the tablies coming to JJ’s boards to get ideas, but its tablies coming to JJ’s boards to seed ideas, to influence opinions and perceptions. And so, I don’t believe interesting was sentient as much as she is a paid troll.

Sheri, I’d love to hear your comments on what I have to say coz you do work in the media industry and I dont. I have no experience in the laws of slander and libel. However, I think I have enough legal expertise to draw some general conclusions about libel and slander laws in the US and UK.

It seems the laws of slander and libel in the US requires that the writer not only write what is untrue but must also have done so with Actual Malice. (Wikipedia: This changed with the landmark 1964 case of New York Times v. Sullivan, in which the Supreme Court of the United States announced constitutional restrictions to state defamation law. The court held that where a public official was defamed, the plaintiff had to prove not just that an untruthful statement was made, but also that it was made with “actual malice” – that is, with knowledge of falsity or with reckless disregard for the truth.) Also, OPINIONS can be a defence against an action for libel and slander in the US in certain situations:
(wikipedia: Finally, the term opinion comes up again in tort law, specifically defamation / libel law, and separates statements into three classes:
-1. statements of opinion or pure opinion (not actionable)
-1. mixed statements of opinion and fact (actionable)
-1. statements of fact (actionable)
In order to win damages in a libel case, the plaintiff must show that the statements were first “statements of fact or mixed statements of opinion and fact” and second that these statements were false. Conversely, typical defenses to libel are that the statements made are opinion or that the statements (if factual) are true. One of the major tests to distinguish whether a statement is fact or opinion is whether the statement can be proven true or false in a court of law. If the statement can be proven true or false, then, on that basis, the case will be heard by a jury to determine whether it is true or false. If the statement can not be proven true or false, the court may dismiss the libel case without it ever going to a jury to find facts in the case.”)

The problem for someone to prove defamation in the US is very very difficult because they have to prove ACTUAL MALICE as defined above.
Take the US weakly story about Angelina dancing with Olivier. Angelina probably did dance with Olivier. She probably danced sexily with him and all her friends who were with her that night. Christ, I’m in my 40s and I dance sexily when my friends and I decide to paint the town red with my friends – especially with my friends because I feel safe with them. So, US Weakly would say that as a matter of fact, Angelina did dance with Olivier and there was no falsity or reckless disregard for the truth.

“Articles” of them breaking up would be based on some photos showing them looking “unhappy” (as opposed to just focused and serious) and having an opinion that they are upset with each other and may be at the verge of breaking up. How can anyone, ever prove that this statement was made by Janice Mean with knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for the truth? With great difficulty. Meanie would just argue she thought it could be true because after all, this is Hollywood and people break up, often and regularly.

US weakly’s suggestion that she was flirting with Olivier as she danced with him is an opinion based on facts. But the facts are true and the opinion is arguably, an opinion of how Angelina looked when she was dancing to the unnamed source. Janice Mean knows what she is doing when she edited the ‘article”. She knew that US weakly cant be sued, because she is merely wrote an opinion based on certain facts and writing it down using a certain tone. This is what spin is about. A clever spinner never needs to ACTUALLY LIE to TELL A LIE. He or she merely needs to know what tone to use, what facts to emphasise, what to leave out. So Janice Mean probably conveniently left out some other truths – how long did Angelina dance with Olivier, did she also dance with other people? How many people were there on the dance floor?? And so on.

UK law however, appears to provide that a person may successfully be sued for libel and slander if the statements he makes are untrue and can cause direct damage to the person – usually of the financial nature (UK and other commonwealth countries do not have punitive or compensatory damages and financial loss must be calculable). (wikipedia: English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual or individuals in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them.)
Hence, Reese could sue in the UK, about her being pregnant on the basis that it harmed her career – no one would want to hire her for the next 12 months if she were pregnant. Marc and JLo did the same based on harm to their brand. But Reese would not succeed in the US because the tablie can produce photos of her potbelly and say that that looks like early pregnancy and so, there was no reckless disregard for the truth or knowledge of falsity – even if there was no knowledge of the truth. See what I mean??

But someone like Alexa Ray (billy joel’s and Christie brinkley’s daughter cannot sue either under the UK law or US law because expressing whether someone is ugly or not, is a matter of pure opinion and though truly offensive, is protected by freedom of speech.
Now on the matter of paid trolls – whether paid for by the publicist or the tablie.

Sheri’s point was that Huvane or anyone in the industry wouldn’t hire paid trolls to write lies on the internet is legitimate because of the legal risks. She is correct if a person or tablie hired someone to write LIES. However, what if a paid troll DOESN’T LIE?? I think if a paid troll takes proper precautions, I would say, that the LEGAL risks are negligible for publicist or for a tablie.

First, how can a paid troll be caught? Who will know whether someone is a paid troll? Not even the owners of the blog. So someone comes repeatedly on line to attack Angelina and praise Jen. She’s just an obsessed fan. So what?? Who is going to trace the IP address of a paid troll if she hasn’t committed a crime?? Sophisticated tracing mechanisms exist, but is used to catch criminals. People who write and spread viruses, Trojan horses. Terrorists etc.. These tracing and surveillance mechanisms are not available to track an astroturfer.
Second, even if a paid troll is caught, what are her LEGAL risks of being sued for libel or slander?? So long as a paid troll doesn’t LIE, there is, in my humble opinion, little legal risks. The paid troll can agree with another hater’s comment – a genuine hater to inflame the situation. The paid troll can give her opinion about Angelina’s behavior – she is smiling at Wyclef and so, I think she’s disrespectful of Brad who in my opinion is being over shadowed. The paid troll can even say that they believe the tablies and the tablies opinion – Angelina danced with Olivier and she was sexy and in their opinion, flirtatious and there fore cheating (or about to cheat) on Brad who in their opinion is being emasculated because he isn’t with his woman but baby sitting the children, something real men (like KFed, wouldn’t do). So long as they aren’t lying, just commentating on published “information” I don’t believe the legal risks are that great. And a paid troll doesn’t have to lie. They are there to create misinformation, to influence perceptions and opinions. In fact, it is better for a paid troll not to lie but to keep the desired spin going on and on and on. (The best lies are based on truths).

The greatest risk should a publicist’s or tablies’ astroturfing be leaked out would be that he and his clients or the tablie loses credibility and become the laughing stocks of the media world.
So, the last few threads posts from a certain person was NO interesting coincidence but an ugly conspiracy. All the more reasons NOT to respond to the trolls at all.

Thanks for the new thread Just Jared. Zahara is once again in charge. She has a future on the stage. I get a chuckle everytime I see pictures of her. She is too cute. I think BP and Pax will just let Zahara handle the paps. Best wishes to BAMPZS.

is that a bruise under pax eye?

African Girl @ 05/17/2007 at 11:09 pm

Too cute for words. The man is in heaven.

Original Curious @ 05/17/2007 at 11:09 pm

“What did you do while we were in school today Daddy?” “not much, played with your little sister, you know, stuff” “Notice anything different about me?” LOL

He sure does have his arms full of love doesn’t he?

Thank you Jared. You just make my days — and now my nights!

angelinammm @ 05/17/2007 at 11:10 pm

cutness overload

Zahara is SO ADORABLE!! aaah!

I see Pax has a calculator fascination!!! so cute…..Pax is the cool, calm collected child, Zahara is the animated artistic one, Mad seems to be a charismatic, happy go lucky guy and Shiloh is so lucky to just be able to take all this action in by her siblings. Just like her siblings, we will start to see more of her character blossom. Angie and Brad must be in heaven for sure with their bunch!!

Thanks Jared.

Princess Zee is letting those paps have it. You go girl!!!

Pax probably think those paps have lost their minds and Brad is thinking darn can’t they get a life. Mad is doing his thing.

Jolie-Pitts are living their lives even with all the craziness around them.

Alexanderina @ 05/17/2007 at 11:18 pm

I just love to see this man with his kids, he is such a super daddy. Pax and Zee are so cute and adorable. I just love this family

Alexanderina @ 05/17/2007 at 11:19 pm

Thanks Jared for the new thread and pictures of Hot Daddy Brad with Zee and Pax

No self-esteem issues from this little chica……she definately states her claim!! I think Zahara is going to hold this fort down…..she got locked down!!!

Pax looks so sweet. I bet his caretakers at the orphanage must miss him, but at the same time feel so happy for him. Hope they have access to JJ to see his pics. Z has such a personality already. What a difference just from a few months ago.

Alexanderina @ 05/17/2007 at 11:22 pm

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African Girl Says:

May 17th, 2007 at 11:09 pm – flag comment
Too cute for words. The man is in heaven.

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ITAWU AG. He waited for so long to be a daddy, and now he is, and he is loving every minute of it. I am so happy for him; happy for them all.

Brad and Angie may travel the world, but they sure put in the time when it comes to their kids……day after day, the have dropped and picked up their kids from school themselves. They are showing them that yes we might be in a different sorrounding but some things are not going to change wherever we are…and that folks is the consistency…attentive, available parents.

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sleepy Says:

May 17th, 2007 at 10:47 pm – flag comment
I think Brad is trying to somehow steal Johnny depps cool actor vibe . Too bad it aint working on me. JD is the coolest mofo in Hollywood and that aint gonna change anytime soon.

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Bringing over, just to say bullsh*t. LMAO

Even Depp recently admitted that if it weren’t for those Pirate movies his career would be in the toilet, hell Depp was acting IN movies that PITT WAS PRODUCING, Brad was HIS BOSS! (Hello??!!) Not to insult Johnny, he is cool — but he’s not as cool as Brad.

When Depp has a repetoire like Brad’s – he might have a chance at coming close, but so far – there’s no cigar.

I could see Brad playing any of the roles Depp has played from the oldest son in Gilbert Grape, to Edward Scissorhands, to that John Waters movie and even Pirates, quite easily…..

However, I cannot see Depp playing Brad’s roles…whether it’s Mickey in Snatch, Tyler Durden in Fight Club, J.D. in Thelma & Louise, Richard in Babel, Louis in Interview w/ a Vampire, John Smith in MAMS, or Tristian Ludlow in Legends of the Fall….

Depp is no ways near as versatile as Brad is.

Versatility and having the entire complete package, is what makes a ‘cool mofo’ — THAT, and having Angelina Jolie as your baby mama.

Alexanderina @ 05/17/2007 at 11:25 pm

awwww there is a picture of big bro Madd. He is getting so big and what a cutie pie he is

lurker opinion @ 05/17/2007 at 11:25 pm

Maddox smile is great. I’m guessing more paps were outside the embassy that is why Brad picked up the kids.

Zahara is probably saying ….look Dad, the crazies again….why do they keep taking pictures Dad? even to a child, this behavior seems ridiculous!!!

I just realized this is really Brad’s time to do his bonding with Pax, since he was working on BB and was out of the house during the day, when he came home. :-) Like AJ said in RD, Pax has quite naturally taken to Brad.

KrungKrung @ 05/17/2007 at 11:28 pm

lil Pax is carrying a calculator, that is what he’s carrying for all the time hehe 2 cute, maybe he’ll be a math wizard sumday, aycaramba…

Brad really really loves these kids. He was definitely stating his truth in his Esquire interview last year when he said that he can’t live without them. Look at Pax held snugly and safely in his daddy’s arm, safe and secure, as Angelina said Brad made everybody feel in RD. Look at Brad’s hands on guiding of Maddox in the door of his school.

Love is expressed in many ways and Brad is a man in love with his kids who is not afraid to show that love. This man is not leaving his family, Angelina, Maddox, Zahara, Shiloh, and Pax anytime soon if ever. Angelina, you done good, you recognized how special this man truly is.

Alexanderina @ 05/17/2007 at 11:31 pm

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lurker opinion Says: May 17th, 2007 at 11:25 pm – flag comment

I agree, Madd has a great smile, I love to see him smiling

angelinammm @ 05/17/2007 at 11:36 pm

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gigi Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 11:15 pm – flag comment

I see Pax has a calculator fascination!!! so cute…..Pax is the cool, calm collected child, Zahara is the animated artistic one, Mad seems to be a charismatic, happy go lucky guy and Shiloh is so lucky to just be able to take all this action in by her siblings. Just like her siblings, we will start to see more of her character blossom. Angie and Brad must be in heaven for sure with their bunch!!”

:)

Thank you Lylian, for again bringing that troll theory to another
thread and boring the s-it out of us again-lol-not!

Troll Bureau of Investigation

Too….Much……..Cuteness!!!

Can’t wait for them to show up at Cannes (hopefully together), I miss seeing Angie! What color y’all think she’ll wear? I’m thinking gold, black, or red (no clue why, that’s just what I’m thinking lol).

The care, concern and constant touching the Brad seems to have with his children has got to make them feel so loved and secure. No matter how many paps chase them, as long as their with the parents holding them and gently calming them down, they will be just fine. These two take to parenting just like anything else they do…..with everything they got!!! no half baked **** for Brad and Angie

I’m thinking Angie will wear a dress with light hues….tis the season of air,breezy,simple dresses…..Angie stylist always seems to hook her up with the most appropriate dresses for her public appearances. She will look stunning for sure…especially because of the movie…..she will be thinking about Danny, Marianne, Adam and the message of the movie. A message that is so intune with some of her virtues.

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TBI

Shut up

KrungKrung @ 05/17/2007 at 11:53 pm

hehe, pic #3 from the right down, lil Z is so serious pointing at sumbody, she looks furious y’all…..

Zee is going to deal with all these tabloid writers when she grows up. I can’t wait!

no longer a lurker @ 05/18/2007 at 12:00 am

luv these pics as well as from the previous threads. and i’m not yet through reading the posts there. busy, busy aren’t we…

i luv z pointing as if saying to the papz “back off or you’ll get the h*** from me!” =)

maybe pax uses the calculator to get a headcount of the papz, probably realized his fingers aren’t enought to count them all. lol

ah a future acct/engineer jp. Thanks j@red for the additional pictures. LOL @ Z, the lil lady’s expressions are hilarious to watch.

Beautiful loving pictures… I love the one Z is pointing at the papps LOL!

BTW I am so amazed what a professional Brad is; he TAKES CARE OF HIMSELF. Gosh. Look at him, at age 43!? I know that’s his job to be fit as an actor, but still… look at his back muscle–no love handle, no extra fat, nice and lean… hubby needs to see this STAT.

KrungKrung @ 05/18/2007 at 12:05 am

mmk? is it just my computer or it’s jj’s site having problems? i always get a message “internet explorer cannot open the webpage” everytime is go to the next page or submitting my posts, ughhh, it’s really aggreaviating, ne1 here have the same problem as mine?

wth, the site’s format that i’m seeing is all effed up!

jolierocks @ 05/18/2007 at 12:07 am

Great daddy duties!!

Brad is probably going to have his dreams come true in Pax being an engineer or an architect.

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shut up
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Never troll–neeeeeever

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrad!! (I LOVE YOU)

Brad is manorexic @ 05/18/2007 at 12:22 am

Angelina’s kids are adorable.

Brad needs to hold on tight to Little Ms. Z. She looks like she ready to do battle with the paps. It seems as if the paps as usually are screaming trying to get Brad’s attention for a pix. Ms. Z is having none of that cra*. Angelina was so right in her description of Z’s personality. Shiloh gave some looks at paps in NOLA that may indicate that she may be much like Z personality wise, another little firecracker. Pax is just taking it all in like a mellow little wise owl.

http://justjared.buzznet.com/gallery/photos.php?yr=2007&mon=05&evt=brad-goatee&pic=brad-pitt-dropping-off-kids-05.jpg

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Brad is manorexic Says:
Angelina’s kids are adorable.
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YES, BRAD AND ANGELINA’S KIDS ARE TRULY ADORABLE, AREN’T THEY.

correction @ 05/18/2007 at 12:36 am

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Brad and Angelina’s kids are adorable.

AddictedtoBAMPZs @ 05/18/2007 at 12:41 am

Burpie, # 40…OMG is right. Once I saw this picture I was never the same again!

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truth Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 12:08 am – flag comment
Brad is probably going to have his dreams come true in Pax being an engineer or an architect.

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I hope so, from what I heard my brother was into calculators big time as a kid. But he quit accounting when he was a just a semester short of graduating. I hope one of the JP kids makes Brad’s dream come true. :-)

Another thread……Thanks Jared!
The kids are so adorable!
Brad is sooooo HOT
Lucky Angie, having those strong arms wrapped around her everyday!

Passing Through @ 05/18/2007 at 12:42 am

Thanks for the additional pix, Jared! Looks to me like a certain spoiled little girl got tired of walking…Daddy is such a soft touch!

Mondo Bongo @ 05/18/2007 at 12:43 am

Brad is so fine~~with a hat,without a hat, with facial hair, without
facial hair, with clothes, without oh!oh! i mean Brad is so fine~~yeah!:)

Francophile @ 05/18/2007 at 12:49 am

Z is killing me, I can’t stop laughing with the way she is telling the paps her mind…I am in stiches !

#62 I second that. I laughed hard when I looked at her expressions. She made my day.

Angelina said they are having a great time. I’m sure they are, because I’m having a great time looking at these pictures. God bless them all. Goodnight fans.

no longer a lurker @ 05/18/2007 at 1:12 am

#65

that was HOOOOOTTTTTT!!!!!

i bet they do it every night! or at least when they get the chance to get a away from the kids =)

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TBI Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 11:41 pm – flag comment
Thank you Lylian, for again bringing that troll theory to another
thread and boring the s-it out of us again-lol-not!

Troll Bureau of Investigation

___________________

Hey TBI, you are MOST welcome. It was my pleasure. So, just for you then:

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thank you lylian Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 11:05 pm – flag comment
lylian Says:

May 17th, 2007 at 10:24 pm – flag comment
FOR SARAICITA: thought I’d bring my comments over to the new thread:

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lylian Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 9:19 pm – flag comment
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saraicita Says:
May 17th, 2007 at 12:47 pm – flag comment
Saraicita, you can google on libel/slander and click on Wikipedia’s explanation. It is actually very very good. It compares UK and US law. However, there is not much mention of Spanish law. Not sure if spanish law is based on the Napoleonic Code or not.

I’m also a lawyer and I wrote a rather long piece about why paid trolls probably do exist and why the threat of a law suit isn’t gonna be enough to put off publicists and tablies from PAYING trolls to make comments in an old thread.
Here it is:)
OK first, I’m here to say, no more responding to the trolls because I’m convinced there are paid trolls here paid either by publicists or tablies. Why??

I read the “article” from US magazine about the alleged lap dancing Angelina did with an old friend, Olivier and thought of our old friend ‘interesting” (and oxymoronic moniker for her, don’t you think??). My first thoughts were, this poster’s used the words “baby sitting, doing the wrong thing by Brad, etc etc.” Remember those? Then lo and behold, out pops an article on US weakly about exactly this topic using exactly the same words, with exactly the same sentiments. Call me lainey but “Coincidence or conspiracy?? Which is it, you decide”. I’m on the conspiracy side.

I came to this conclusion after doing some research. I read the comments from 2 sources in an older thread with interest. One from Sheri about how Huvane would not hire people to post on sites because of the legal risks of being sued for slander or libel. Because Sheri works for a large media company, I did pause to rethink my opinion that Huvane pays trolls. The other poster had found information on astroturfing and people that offer services to influence opinions and perceptions on the net.

Whether these trolls are paid for by Huvane or paid for by these disgusting tablies I don’t know. But I’m absolutely certain there are paid trolls are astroturfing on Just Jared. I don’t think its just the case of the tablies coming to JJ’s boards to get ideas, but its tablies coming to JJ’s boards to seed ideas, to influence opinions and perceptions. And so, I don’t believe interesting was sentient as much as she is a paid troll.

Sheri, I’d love to hear your comments on what I have to say coz you do work in the media industry and I dont. I have no experience in the laws of slander and libel. However, I think I have enough legal expertise to draw some general conclusions about libel and slander laws in the US and UK.

It seems the laws of slander and libel in the US requires that the writer not only write what is untrue but must also have done so with Actual Malice. (Wikipedia: This changed with the landmark 1964 case of New York Times v. Sullivan, in which the Supreme Court of the United States announced constitutional restrictions to state defamation law. The court held that where a public official was defamed, the plaintiff had to prove not just that an untruthful statement was made, but also that it was made with “actual malice” – that is, with knowledge of falsity or with reckless disregard for the truth.) Also, OPINIONS can be a defence against an action for libel and slander in the US in certain situations:
(wikipedia: Finally, the term opinion comes up again in tort law, specifically defamation / libel law, and separates statements into three classes:
-1. statements of opinion or pure opinion (not actionable)
-1. mixed statements of opinion and fact (actionable)
-1. statements of fact (actionable)
In order to win damages in a libel case, the plaintiff must show that the statements were first “statements of fact or mixed statements of opinion and fact” and second that these statements were false. Conversely, typical defenses to libel are that the statements made are opinion or that the statements (if factual) are true. One of the major tests to distinguish whether a statement is fact or opinion is whether the statement can be proven true or false in a court of law. If the statement can be proven true or false, then, on that basis, the case will be heard by a jury to determine whether it is true or false. If the statement can not be proven true or false, the court may dismiss the libel case without it ever going to a jury to find facts in the case.”)

The problem for someone to prove defamation in the US is very very difficult because they have to prove ACTUAL MALICE as defined above.
Take the US weakly story about Angelina dancing with Olivier. Angelina probably did dance with Olivier. She probably danced sexily with him and all her friends who were with her that night. Christ, I’m in my 40s and I dance sexily when my friends and I decide to paint the town red with my friends – especially with my friends because I feel safe with them. So, US Weakly would say that as a matter of fact, Angelina did dance with Olivier and there was no falsity or reckless disregard for the truth.

“Articles” of them breaking up would be based on some photos showing them looking “unhappy” (as opposed to just focused and serious) and having an opinion that they are upset with each other and may be at the verge of breaking up. How can anyone, ever prove that this statement was made by Janice Mean with knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard for the truth? With great difficulty. Meanie would just argue she thought it could be true because after all, this is Hollywood and people break up, often and regularly.

US weakly’s suggestion that she was flirting with Olivier as she danced with him is an opinion based on facts. But the facts are true and the opinion is arguably, an opinion of how Angelina looked when she was dancing to the unnamed source. Janice Mean knows what she is doing when she edited the ‘article”. She knew that US weakly cant be sued, because she is merely wrote an opinion based on certain facts and writing it down using a certain tone. This is what spin is about. A clever spinner never needs to ACTUALLY LIE to TELL A LIE. He or she merely needs to know what tone to use, what facts to emphasise, what to leave out. So Janice Mean probably conveniently left out some other truths – how long did Angelina dance with Olivier, did she also dance with other people? How many people were there on the dance floor?? And so on.

UK law however, appears to provide that a person may successfully be sued for libel and slander if the statements he makes are untrue and can cause direct damage to the person – usually of the financial nature (UK and other commonwealth countries do not have punitive or compensatory damages and financial loss must be calculable). (wikipedia: English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual or individuals in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them.)
Hence, Reese could sue in the UK, about her being pregnant on the basis that it harmed her career – no one would want to hire her for the next 12 months if she were pregnant. Marc and JLo did the same based on harm to their brand. But Reese would not succeed in the US because the tablie can produce photos of her potbelly and say that that looks like early pregnancy and so, there was no reckless disregard for the truth or knowledge of falsity – even if there was no knowledge of the truth. See what I mean??

But someone like Alexa Ray (billy joel’s and Christie brinkley’s daughter cannot sue either under the UK law or US law because expressing whether someone is ugly or not, is a matter of pure opinion and though truly offensive, is protected by freedom of speech.
Now on the matter of paid trolls – whether paid for by the publicist or the tablie.

Sheri’s point was that Huvane or anyone in the industry wouldn’t hire paid trolls to write lies on the internet is legitimate because of the legal risks. She is correct if a person or tablie hired someone to write LIES. However, what if a paid troll DOESN’T LIE?? I think if a paid troll takes proper precautions, I would say, that the LEGAL risks are negligible for publicist or for a tablie.

First, how can a paid troll be caught? Who will know whether someone is a paid troll? Not even the owners of the blog. So someone comes repeatedly on line to attack Angelina and praise Jen. She’s just an obsessed fan. So what?? Who is going to trace the IP address of a paid troll if she hasn’t committed a crime?? Sophisticated tracing mechanisms exist, but is used to catch criminals. People who write and spread viruses, Trojan horses. Terrorists etc.. These tracing and surveillance mechanisms are not available to track an astroturfer.
Second, even if a paid troll is caught, what are her LEGAL risks of being sued for libel or slander?? So long as a paid troll doesn’t LIE, there is, in my humble opinion, little legal risks. The paid troll can agree with another hater’s comment – a genuine hater to inflame the situation. The paid troll can give her opinion about Angelina’s behavior – she is smiling at Wyclef and so, I think she’s disrespectful of Brad who in my opinion is being over shadowed. The paid troll can even say that they believe the tablies and the tablies opinion – Angelina danced with Olivier and she was sexy and in their opinion, flirtatious and there fore cheating (or about to cheat) on Brad who in their opinion is being emasculated because he isn’t with his woman but baby sitting the children, something real men (like KFed, wouldn’t do). So long as they aren’t lying, just commentating on published “information” I don’t believe the legal risks are that great. And a paid troll doesn’t have to lie. They are there to create misinformation, to influence perceptions and opinions. In fact, it is better for a paid troll not to lie but to keep the desired spin going on and on and on. (The best lies are based on truths).

The greatest risk should a publicist’s or tablies’ astroturfing be leaked out would be that he and his clients or the tablie loses credibility and become the laughing stocks of the media world.
So, the last few threads posts from a certain person was NO interesting coincidence but an ugly conspiracy. All the more reasons NOT to respond to the trolls at all.

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KrungKrung Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 12:05 am – flag comment
mmk? is it just my computer or it’s jj’s site having problems? i always get a message “internet explorer cannot open the webpage” everytime is go to the next page or submitting my posts, ughhh, it’s really aggreaviating, ne1 here have the same problem as mine?

I have gotten that message about four times on the previous thread. I have lost two post. I click on submit, I get that message and my post disappeared. Jared what is happening? I tried to post once before on this site and the same thing happened. Sorry it is happening to you,but at least I know it is universal and not just my problem. Peace.

#66, this one is R rated, an old one but another hot one :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWXlWKur4qc

REMEMBER THIS?

“I never sleep with a married man after what my father did to my mother. I could not look myself in the mirror…” SANTA ANGELINA JOLIE

Now Read this:

” FOILED BY MATH JolieJolie speaks! Well, not to the weeklies, but in doctor’s office favorite Readers Digest, she talks about life with Daddy Brad-y and their rainbow bunch. And the tabs diligently decode.
The staff of the self-proclaimed tabloid of record, Us Weekly, flex their mathlete muscles, crunching the numbers for this SAT-caliber brain buster: Jolie says bio baby Shiloh was not an accident. Shiloh was born in May 2006, putting her conception date somewhere in late August/early September 2005. Brad’s divorce to Jennifer Aniston wasn’t official until October 2005. Let’s see … carry the one … Oh, snap! The final insult! Angelina finally admits she was trying to get knocked-up while Brad was still married!

Mr and Mrs Smith @ 05/18/2007 at 1:48 am

shakira = a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding., where mischief is caused in order to ensure chaos is spread

no longer a lurker @ 05/18/2007 at 1:50 am

enjoy! thanks for the 2nd one but the 1st one is hotter i guess live action is better than pics =).

shakira, this case has been explained in the previous threads so i will no longer elaborate. my personal stand in this issue is – don’t we all sometimes have to eat our words when love comes knocking on our door. besides, i always believe that you cannot take a married man away if he is TRULY HAPPY WITH HIS WIFE. sure a husband may have affair/s but for a husband to leave a legal wife for another woman speaks of the true state of their marriage – only an unhappy husband in an unhappy marriage will leave the wife and seek divorce. imo.

branzasipama @ 05/18/2007 at 1:51 am

the new Nanny…………. my adorable Brad!!!!!!!!!!!

Shakira, Jen file for divorce on Mar. 2005, Jen was srewing Vince since July/Aug. 2005 or could be as early as May 2005 ,the difference is Angie get pregnant while Jen didn’t bcos she didn’t want kid. that’s the only diffence I see. So, Jen sleeping with Vince was OK while her EX HUSBAND was not allowed to. that’s what you called double standard!

to shakira @ 05/18/2007 at 1:54 am

Shakira, poor poor thing. Maybe the jerk will adopt you since he doesn’t care about his own flesh and blood!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNurneov0Jw

#70 Shakira : From what I remember and from what was written in the tabloids from the beginning of the MMS filming BP and his x announced a separation in Jan 2005. A divorced was filed in March 2005 . The Judge signed the divorce decree August 2005 . The divorce was final Oct 2005 . If AJ amd Bp were intimate after March 2005 when an intended divorce was announced then it should not be a problem . He was emotionally not a married man . The relationship ( marriage) he had with x was done and he and x was free to live their lives . X did this when she hooked up with VV and was seen being very affectionate publicly and allowed the rumor of a serious relationship with VV to flourish and take shape as something wished for by x fans and written about frequently in the friendly tabloids to x . So to continue to beat this very dead horse about AJ interviews about being intimate with a married man is tiresome .

SHAKIRA = TWOKIDS2.

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shakira Says:

Oh, give it up!!! Even if they DID it, they DID after JA FILED FOR the DIVORCE. ONCE that paper is signed by both parties, it’s OVER!!!! In fact, their marriage was LONG DEAD already! Like this is really beating a super dead horse! TOP that the X was also humping VV at the same time BEFORE the divorce was final. Big whoopie deal!! You are pathetic! Either you are under Huvane’s or Min’s payroll or related. A S S W I P E!!!!!

Brad still a winner @ 05/18/2007 at 2:01 am

To 73 branzasipama aka Shakira, You’re green with envy , how many women wish they could have Brad as their husband. devoted , responble dad , supportive partner , super sexy and hot, rich and famous. God, he is so perfect !

#70

After the legal separation in Jan 2005, Brad was a free man — and after the ugly tv sit-com hack filed for divorce in March 2005 – Brad was REALLY a free man, either way, that was BEFORE Brad and Angie hooked up, and WAY before they conceived Shiloh. What don’t you get numbskull?

Or do you have to make stops on the Kate Hudson, Julia Roberts, Danny Moder, Russell Crowe, Meg Ryan, Owen Wilson, Jake Gyllenhal, Reese Witherspoon, Uma Thurman, Ethan Hawke, Jennifer Aniston, Vince Vaughn and thousands of other people’s threads, to let them know that sex and/or starting a new life before a marriage is officially dissolved by the court system (which can sometimes take up to a year or more) is wrong?

MOST PEOPLE that are NOT maniacally and insanely jealous of other women LIKE YOU, recognize that once a couple’s relationship is over FOR GOOD, once they have agreed to separate, and not be together anymore FOR GOOD, then legally and offically separate and also officially file for divorce — they can, and do, start their lives over with other people.

Just a tip in case you ever crawl out of that cave that’s caught in the 17th century that you’ve been living in…..

…or do you only reside in it, when the subject is Brad Pitt and the woman he is loving up and making a life with, is Angelina Jolie??

Yeah, I thought so ya jealous b*tch.

Muahahahahaha!

now THAT is a daddy. what a DILF!!!

Ugly Aniston @ 05/18/2007 at 2:17 am

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shakira Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 1:35 am – flag comment

Remember this?? since your bible is the tabloids you sure believe what Jen is saying:

“Jen considered herself divorced when she and Brad were separated and couldn’t care less what happened after that,” says a source, adding that “Jen is not angry over the new revelation and thinks Shiloh is a cute baby.”

So what’s your problem if Jen got no problem with Shiloh???

Do we need these pictures everyday….? it is like groundhog day

Schlumberger @ 05/18/2007 at 2:19 am

Both Brad and Jen consider each a FREE person the minute divorce papers were filed which was 3/25/2005.

1) According to Aniston, she considers one is free and can do whatever she/he wants when the divorce papers was filed. Judging from this VF interview which was done in June 2005.
from VF interview, ……. But it’s not my life,” she says. “He makes his choices. He can do—whatever. We’re divorced, and you can see why.”

2) If you go back and look at those pictures, during the separation period , Brad still wore the wedding ring as can be seen on Jen’s birthday party. But Jen took off her ring even during the separation period.

3) When Jen filed the divorce paper on 3/25/05, pictures show that Brad’s ring is gone.

4) Brad also bought the house in Malibu in 4/2005, and also moved out of the house.

5) In the video with Diane Sawyer aired in May, 2005, Brad did NOT have a ring in his ring finger. Instead, we see a ring with a “cut out ” shape in his middle finger.
US mag is playing on the mini van’s IGNORANCE.

Some key dates:–

1/5/2005 separation was announced
3/25/2005 filed divorce papers
8/19/2005 the judge signed the divorce decree

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Lylian
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How sweet of you, a rotten egg of a post comes along every once and awhile a stink bomb comes along and clears the room,
Congratulations so for this weekend yours is the winner, hang tight
it’s early yet!!lol

Brrrrrrrrrrad!! (i love you)

Natalie Portman @ 05/18/2007 at 2:24 am

“And there are people in my own profession I admire, who have done things and made substantial change, like Bono and Angelina Jolie. They are models for how you can meaningfully devote your life to causes. It’s not just lending your face. It’s giving yourself. A lot of people lack meaning in their lives, and that’s why getting active in issues like microfinance gives you such a center to your life.”

- Add Natalie Portman to the list of Angelina’s admirers.

Give me a break you all know Jennifer Aniston hates Zahara and the rest of the little jolie – pitt babies. They are bigger stars than she is.

This family is the best. Yes, its the same subjects everyday but sooo cute. I can’t wait to get the photos from cannes as well.
Somone was wondering what Angeilna will be wearing… I agree gold black and red look great on her. I’m hoping she goes with a red minidress. She has the legs for it. Have to wait and see.

to shakira @ 05/18/2007 at 2:50 am

In conclusion, our investigation gives support to the thesis that Brad wants to start a FAMILY, Jen hesitates out of fear and over concerns with her CAREER, whereas Angelina could be very RECEPTIVE. Our investigation shows that Brad’s desires to have a family could be quite genuine and compelling, so much so that they could truly be a DETAERMING FACTOR in a divorce from Jen.

Gawker
Jen was already sleeping with meaty Vince when Shiloh was conceived.

shakira, are you Jen’s paid troll ?

poor kc #91 @ 05/18/2007 at 3:05 am

You call little GORGEOUS kids ugly. I demand to see what you look like FUGLY! We want pictures of you right now.

UGLY X FANS+ NO BRAINS= JEN FANS!!!! :-)

to shakira @ 05/18/2007 at 3:14 am

“Everything is about sex except sex which is about aggression.”
Susan Dunn, the EQ Coach

Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie and Jennifer Aniston have been much in the news lately. In case you’ve lived in a cave since the beginning of the year, Brad and Jen separated perhaps over a love interest between Brad and Angelina Jolie that may have been ignited during the filming of Mr. & Mrs. Smith. Since the separation, Brad and Angelina have been photographed in secluded places in Africa together and have become an item. Jen has been quoted saying there was no outside influence but then again sometimes she says there was.

Let’s learn some astrology using their charts and situation.

Here are the generally reputed facts which are relevant to the astrology we’ll be discussing.

BRAD WANTS TO START A FAMILY
According to Entertainment Magazine and other sources, “Another rumor has it that constant arguments between Brad and Anniston [sic] over the issue of starting a family were a contributing factor to the split. Pitt, 41, is anxious to start a family, while Aniston, 35, is reluctant to do so at the expense of her acting career. During the filming of Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Angelina Jolie brought her 3-year-old adopted son, Maddox, to the set every day and Pitt enjoyed spending time with the little boy. Their closeness caused him to compare Aniston unfavorably with Jolie, by pointing out to her that Jolie, who is 6 years younger, has successfully combined motherhood with her acting career.” Source: http://emol.org/celebrities/pitt/

PHONE SEX BETWEEN BRAD AND ANGELINA
“[Another] rumor has it that Pitt and Jolie, called each other constantly on the phone. Supposedly Jennifer Aniston listened in on one conversation (either accidentally or deliberately) and heard Pitt and Jolie having telephone sex.” Source: http://emol.org/celebrities/pitt/

WAS THERE CHEATING?
Even People magazine said the friendship between Pitt and Jolie never reached the point of an affair. In “Jennifer’s My Space Blog” she said,
“Well, since everything is formally stated, I guess I should address it, because I don’t feel like answering a million e-mails about this. The split was no one’s fault, please don’t blame Brad or myself for this, things don’t always work out the way you want them to…and this is one of those things….” Source: http://emol.org/celebrities/pitt/

4. JEN’S UNHAPPY CHILDHOOD
“Blaming her unhappy childhood for the problems in her own marriage to Brad Pitt, Jennifer Aniston also admitted that her negative attitude played a role in the breakdown of their marriage….” Source: http://www.Hollywood.com

5. ANGELINA’S GENEROSITY AND LIFESTYLE
“The Troy star [Brad Pitt] has revealed his admiration for Angelina’s generosity. He reckons that his Mr. and Mrs. Smith co-star actually only makes movies so that she can give the money away. ‘Angelina donates staggering amounts of money,’ IMDB quotes him as saying. ‘She probably makes money so she can give more away. That seems to be more her concern than films.’” Source: http://www.Skyshow.com

6. ANGELINA’S “EXTRAORDINARY” SEXUALITY, HER REPUTATION AS A FEMME FATALE, RUMORS ABOUT RED MEAT, CUTTING, SADOMASOCHISM, BI-SEXUALITY AND AN UNNATURAL INTEREST IN HER BROTHER
“Mr. & Mrs. Smith director Doug Liman maintains there was no affair he knew of, but he can understand why Pitt fell for Angelina – if the romance is for real. He adds, ‘She’s extraordinarily sexual.’” Source: http://www.Askmen.com.

“Alongside the Japanese sign for death, Billy Bob, H, two Native American symbols, a dragon and a black cross, she [Angelina] has written on her body a Tennessee Williams line ‘A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages’, and ‘Quod me nutrit me destruit’ – What nourishes me also destroys me. Source: http://www.tiscali-film.com

MISCELLANEOUS: ANGELINA JOLIE RATED #9 SEXIEST WOMAN IN THE WORLD
Source: http://www.AskMen.com rates Angelina #9 sexiest woman in the world. Here are the women who beat her:

#8 Beyonce Knowles
#7 Benitez
#6 Brooke Burke
#5 Heidi Klum
#4 Josie Moran
#3 Charlize Theron
#2 Monica Bellucci
and #1, Adriana Lima

Let’s look for substantiating evidence of these assertions in the astrology charts and come up with some theories of our own.

Brad Pitt (click for larger version)

Source for data: LMR quotes a trusted colleague.
[thanks to astrodatabank.com]
Born December 18, 1963 @ 6:31 am Shawnee, Oklahoma

Jennifer Aniston (click for larger version)

Born February 11, 1969 @ 10:22 pm Los Angeles, California

Angelina Jolie (click for larger version)

Source for data: Marc Penfield quotes B.C. #0190-046359
B.C. viewed at Norwalk Records Dept, CA
(Daughter of Marcheline Bertrand and Jon Voight, born at Cedars in Los Angeles).
Same data confirmed by Sue Jorgenson 7/2001.
[thanks to astrodatabank.com]
Born June 4, 1975 @ 9:09 am Los Angeles, California

In this article, I will use a very abbreviated form of astrological interpretation. Major themes are easily revealed in the crisis points of people’s lives by major planetary action. They are also amply supported by minute transit analysis, asteroids, progressions, etc., but it is not necessary to get into minutiae to get a perspective on what is happening with all the insight astrology can bring to bear, nor is it necessary to know very advanced astrology. In this analysis I rely on 10 planets, 12 houses, major aspects and very basic transits.

Let’s look at each of the issues and find supporting or contradictory astrological evidence.

1. Brad WANTS TO START A FAMILY

When I heard this, I felt a tug at my heart because I remembered Brad had a lot of Capricorn in his chart and families are important to Capricorns. Brad’s Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and South Moon Node are all in Capricorn. The values of Capricorn are generally conservative and family oriented. Many a Capricornish man will act the Pater Familias or the Victorian Papa with relish. In addition, Brad’s North Moon Node is in 11 degrees of Cancer in the 7th house. He wants to develop his nurturing capacity, particularly of his partner. Here is a man who, despite having Sun in merry, easy-going Sagittarius, could definitely want a family and probably more than a few kids.

Brad’s identity has been changing drastically with Pluto having crossed his Ascendant December 21, 1999 (he met Jen in spring 1998 and married her in July 2000), and transiting his 1st house for several years now. Pluto is preparing to conjunct his unaspected 1st house Sun on January 25, 2006. The effects could easily be felt by now. Few things could bring greater changes to a person’s identity than this Pluto/Sun transit and beginning a family would fit the level of intensity of this transit as well, if it is not something the person had done before.

You might see this analogy. Shortly before Pluto transited Brad’s Sag Ascendant, Stage 1, he met Jen. Shortly before Pluto transits his Sun, Stage 2, he meets Angelina. Pluto transits to personal planets and angles bring changes of such magnitude they can be considered transformational. These two women represent much more to Brad than attractive partners. Each one brought intense personal growth and a new world view.

Brad has no (zero) aspects to his Sun. I think this is the first time I’ve seen this in a chart. There is one aspect to an angle, not another planet, and this is a square to the Midheaven. Does this mean Brad doesn’t know who he is? Perhaps. Does it mean we don’t know who he is? Absolutely. But we have the rest of the chart to learn with.

Certainly lack of personal identity is not per se a disadvantage to an actor. Brad’s Mars (which represents the ego, not the whole person), is exceptionally strong with good aspects to Uranus and Pluto. Brad can play the Hero (Sun) to define himself. But I would imagine when Pluto hits that Sun in January 2006– and six months lead time is nothing for Pluto — something very important will be happening inside this man. I would imagine because of the timing of these events that Angelina is the Moon to his Sun and that he is finding himself in her reflection of him. This is alchemy at its finest. It is god/goddess territory, sacred space. It is archetypal male/female interaction. [For a more full understanding of the mystical dialogue between the Sun and Moon, see Dane Rudhyar. There are many good sites about Rudhyar and he has written many excellent book so I will leave it up to you to find something that appeals to you.]

Brad has no planets in the 5th house of children. It is ruled by Pisces. The 5th house is tied archetypally to the Sun and to one’s identity, so Brad’s need for children may be greater than he can possibly articulate. It is as though he may long to finally “see himself” in the positive light of his own creations.

During the last two and one half years, Brad has had Saturn transiting in the 8th house opposite his Mercury, Moon and Venus. This transit indicates disappointment or difficulty in intimacy with a woman, possibly sexual problems with a woman as well. Brad’s natal Moon and Venus are exceptionally good, indicating a strong, positive relationship with his mom. The last couple of years with Jen may have been particulary disappointng although Saturn and his Capricorn nature would have given him the discipline and commitment to persevere.It is just as Saturn is leaving Cancer that his commitment ends.

Now let’s look at Jen’s chart. Jen has natal Moon square Pluto which can bring a terror of having children due to subconscious fear of losing a baby. In the 2nd and 11th houses, there can be conflict about bringing another soul into a body and perhaps trapping it here on earth (in an unhappy childhood like her own?).

Jen’s Moon is in Sagittarius which is not nurturing and with Pluto currently transiting it, this is a very unlikely time for a woman to want to conceive. Jen’s separation from Brad under this transit may be a recapitulation of former losses in childhood and other lifetimes. This could be a particularly painful time for her. Jen’s natal Venus in fiery Aries is opposite freedom loving, even “wild and crazy” Jupiter and Uranus.

Jen’s South Moon Node is in Libra in the 12th house conjunct Uranus, bespeaking possibly her very upsetting or unsettling time in her mother’s womb. When giving birth, one recalls subconsciously one’s own birth experience. This would be another reason to hesitate on pregnancy.Jen’s gestation time in the womb was not something she would want to perpetrate on her own child.

It is interesting to see that this woman who looks so soft and vulnerable is actually a fighter and yang (masculine) freedom lover.

Jen’s North Node is in the 6th house with Venus and Saturn in Aries. She could look at work rather than motherhood as a meaningful expression of her feminine nature and since the sign of both planets is Aries, a means of discovering her real identity. With her North Moon Node here, it really is spiritually correct for Jen to focus on work and “finding herself”, then serving others but those she is intended to serve are not necessarily husband and family. If there’s one thing astrology teaches us it is that we are not all here to be breeders and householders!

Natal Saturn in the 6th house can also bring fears of pregnancy because there is a difficult relationship with one’s own body predicted by this placement. Pregnancy can feel or be anticipated as if if were an invasion of a foreign object into one’s own body.

Saturn is currently crossing Jen’s Midheaven, having to do with career but also with mother in the archetypal sense. It might be pulling up fearful memories of what happened to her mother during her parents’ acknowledged negative marriage. It is also a time in life when people make major changes. Had she chosen to start a family, this would fit the energy of Saturn on the Midheaven but even by not choosing, she is left with something else major, a separation.

By contrast, Angelina, who has the image as the femme fatale actually has some very positive yin or nurturing energy. I am reminded of the words my Greek friend Stavros said, “Brad, don’t do it. Stay with the nice Greek girl”, adding for my benefit, ”He can’t handle Angelina Jolie. She’s going to eat him alive.”) Apparently this is not the case.

Angelina’s Venus is in the very nurturing sign of Cancer. It is right on the Ascendant and has transiting Saturn on it as this article is being written. Since natal Venus is partile square Uranus in the 4th house, this Saturn transit is bringing Angelina some stability she did not get from her father and childhood home. Brad may represent not only a future father for her children but a father for herself. Many a Capricornian male fills this role in a woman’s life. Also with Brad’s four Capricorn planets and South Node opposite Angelina’s Venus, it had to be love at first sight! There is no stronger sexual attraction than male Mars opposing female Venus.

Angelina’s Moon is in Aries in the 9th house which is not nurturing but there is a beautiful trine to Neptune in the 5th showing a great, even divine love of children and the North Moon Node is there, too, in the 5th in Sagittarius which puts a huge emphasis on having children, possibly foreign children!

In conclusion, our investigation gives support to the thesis that Brad wants to start a family, Jen hesitates out of fear and over concerns with her career, whereas Angelina could be very receptive. Our investigation shows that Brad’s desires to have a family could be quite genuine and compelling, so much so that they could truly be a determining factor in a divorce from Jen.

2. PHONE SEX BETWEEN BRAD AND ANGELINA

I put this one mostly to lighten things up and show you how versatile astrology can be. Mercury, Gemini, the 3rd and 8th houses are at play during a discussion on the merits of this assertion!

Brad currently has Uranus transiting his 3rd house and could find something like this quite titillating. As a Sagittarian, long distance is fine, too. He has Saturn transiting the 8th which might substantiate having to wait to consummate the relationship and also that a possible divorce from Jen could be costly. Brad has Mercury trine Uranus and Pluto. He could be a good mind reader and know just what to say to fulfill Angelina’s fantasies over the airwaves.

Angelina has mind reading skills, too (very positive 9th house). With Pluto in the 3rd house, she can be erotic when she speaks. She is well known for her titillating interviews and her love of revealing intimate details of her sex life to even a casual reporter. Angelina’s 11th house Mercury in Gemini conjunct the Sun is trine Uranus so she loves to shock people when she talks. This part of her chart would make her perfect on a 900 number! She has Uranus transiting the 8th house which would make electronic sex or sex over the airwaves especially exciting.

My conclusion? Whether or not they really did engage in phone sex, it could be a natural outlet for both of them. They both have talents in this area.

3. WAS THERE CHEATING?

I don’t know about other astrologers but I hate being asked this question. I put it here just to say that I don’t think it’s an appropriate level at which to address the issues in these people’s lives. Whether or not cheating occurs in a relationship, it is never about cheating.

JEN’S UNHAPPY CHILDHOOD

There is abundant evidence of Jen’s unhappy childhood and of course this is projected into marriage unless healing takes place and consciousness is raised. With Venus and Saturn together in Aries in the 6th, Jen could be a male basher at heart. These planets together, though not close enough for a conjunct, can indicate someone who was raised by a misogynist (a man who hates women). Natal Venus in Aries is opposed by Uranus and Jupiter in Libra. Here is the possibility of negative passive/aggressive behavior. This young woman may have been compulsive about “who’s on top”, the very worst aspects of Aries and Libra being expressed and a “know-it-all” opinionated woman who has identified with her inner male rather than using it as an ideal to pursue.

Brad still a winner @ 05/18/2007 at 3:17 am

(Racist + ugly X fans) x Brain death = Jen Fans !!!!

Everybody is talking about how Brad was into children.
I believe Brad really wished to have children but I do not think the children was the main reason for his divorce, maybe one of the reason but not The Reason.
Even Jen fan believes that this is the main reason but no no no.
If it it the main reason Brad could get together with any woman, or he could waited for his ex to be preg – he waited for 7 years so two more years would not be a big deal for Brad if they were really together and going in same direction.

So please do not make Angie as baby machine for Brad. It is insulting her inteligence and vice versa for Brad.
Angie had a def. idea about relationship/partner, and someone just desiring of children was not in the category.

cute! thanks jj!

Even more power to Z……….seriously now, these pictures will change the world.

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ITAWU. Kid was probably one of the many problems they have. Just look at the life they are living right now. Brad learn to fly his own plane, traveling around the world, charity, meeting interesting peoples , learning different cultures , a big change for Brad while nothing change on Jen’s life aside from loosing a husband, she was on her routine salon or spa date, tanning, margaritas, hair bleaching dinner party with her goddess circle of friends, los Cabos vacation with friends, never re-educate herself, never do charity, never travel outside America. I’m just wondering , they were actually 2 totally different person, how did they survived 7 years. must be miserable !

Haya guys. I love this family, its just too cute.

Hiya. i love this family. Its just too cute.

cutness,this little girl make me smile everytime I looked a her expressions.
Beautiful family.
Can wait to see the joliepitts in cannes.
Have a nice day ladies.

tsk tsk tsk @ 05/18/2007 at 5:48 am

ITAWU. Kid was probably one of the many problems they have. Just look at the life they are living right now. Brad learn to fly his own plane, traveling around the world, charity, meeting interesting peoples , learning different cultures , a big change for Brad while nothing change on Jen’s life aside from loosing a husband, she was on her routine salon or spa date, tanning, margaritas, hair bleaching dinner party with her goddess circle of friends, los Cabos vacation with friends, never re-educate herself, never do charity, never travel outside America. I’m just wondering , they were actually 2 totally different person, how did they survived 7 years. must be miserable !
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You are so right. And yet it is so funny when the haters and naysayers say that Brad is in the relationship only for the children, that he is miserable and thinking of taking Shi and going back to the X, that Angelina is this evil witch who entrapped him with children and wild sex and he has grown tired of that. They are so far away from the truth because there are none so blind as those who would not see.

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Exactly ! If Brad is just after wild sex, he could pick a younger woman, prettier or as sexy and pretty as Angie, there’s lot of them in Hollywood. but no, he chases Angie with 2 adopted kids. That speak so clearly. he is not a shallow man.

what man moves a woman and her two children into his home if he wasn’t in love with her and her children-angie didn’t get pregant until late august or early september-brad moved angie and the kids into his malibu home in july-he clearly wanted angie and the kids in his life-now he does.

Why people still talking about Jennifer?
She has nothing in her agenda.

i agree f she’s not important i don’t even mention her name-brad and angie are the only true stars i care about-cannes here they come

I think some people stays in relationship even though they are totally not in same page. There are people who are synical about relationship that they give up already or do not see of finding right person – in this case these people find happines from their work most times. I think Brad was in same situation. There was interview of Brad with CR in 2004 (around May, I believe). Brad said he and his ex were totally different person and did not understand each other and were going to two different ways. So is this happy life? No. But they stayed together because it was easier than finding the right person.

#14 Whoever was the original poster of the libel law post – fantastic read!
Makes so much sense!
But I wonder if there are also paid trolls not only to say disgusting stuff about Ange & kids, but also to be like a fake Brange fan who ‘fans the flame’ of all the angst by continually responding to the trolls, which just keeps that gravy boat going for the tabs. And it continually sucks in the real fans!

#110,
I agree with you. This is what I always believed. I never followed the Brad and Jen relationship closely but they do seem like completely different people. I just watched Ocean’s 11 including Brad’s commentary and he mentions Jen on occasion. They were obviously in love then but his comments about her seemed to be a bit idealistic. ‘My wife gave me this…In LA with My wife… My wife…My wife’. made me sick. It was like he was dropping names. Was she a trophy wife? Well anyway I have a new found appreciation for the man since he hooked up with Angelina. A real woman. multidimensional. I wish both the BAMPZS family and Jen all the best. Jen has moved on (thank god!) now I wish her fans would.

Thanks Jared!!

Brad is a wonderful father.His children are so happy,esp Maddox I love that!!

You get my vote for Dad of the year BP!!

yeah he do mention his x wife………b/coz she gives him so much pot and cokes.

he knows now that his freakin x-wife is a pain in hollywood!i heard she wants to pose nude for playboy magz.but mr. hoff,even for free doesn’t need here services.

*yawn*

I remember my Dad picking all 5 of us from school.

Big ******* deal man. I would have more admiration for this couple if Jolie would stay home for awhile to help the transition for Pax. She herself said he gets worried when she’s not around. CLUE, then don’t be a hypocrite and stay home.

Caribbean Jolie-Pitt lover @ 05/18/2007 at 8:05 am

I’ve always been more of an Angie than a Brad fan, I’ve watched everything she’s been in. Brad was always “ok”, though he was hotness personified in Troy. Now that he’s hooked up with Ange his hotness has gone thru the roof for me hehe…nothing like seeing a sexy, caring, loving daddy with his kids.

What a joke! @ 05/18/2007 at 8:05 am

#116 Joey,Um you do know that the RD interview was done 9 DAYS after Pax was bought home.It has been over 2 months now,DUH!I think the boy has adjusted due to the fact he is now going to school for a FEW HOURS A DAY.I just love how people like you always feel a need to ***** about someone you claim not to care for!

why would jolie needs to stay home?that lookz?needz to stay home?till that to ur homely” idol!now its clear that after papa pitt,shes nothing!

http://www.javno.com/en/lifestyle/clanak.php?id=45177
Angelina Jolie in a Bikini
I don’t know if this pic new or not

konnitiwa @ 05/18/2007 at 8:19 am

PAX is 3 and half. Age to go to preschool and play with other children.
A daughter of my friend is 2 years old Mexican and goes to Japanese preschool. She likes playing with Japanese kids and eating Japanese foods a lot. She is already learning a different culture.

Caribbean Jolie-Pitt lover @ 05/18/2007 at 8:21 am

Nice pic. I dont think I’ve ever seen a pic of Angie in a bikini before. Yet she’s topped “most sexy”, “most beautiful” lists for years. And she did it without tons of silicone too. That says a lot.

You know Joey!!!

I am sure JP is suffering because they don’t have your admiration…
CLUE..who are you? and what are you to them? *YAHN*

port orange @ 05/18/2007 at 8:26 am

Am so happy to see Brad enjoying fatherhood. They may be a handful but they are part of the longtime dreams he wishes and they ‘re all lovely kids.

Thanks JJ for all the pics.

Kumusta to my kababayans. Just got home from a month’s trip home. Mom-in -law was very ill but she recovered quickly as soon as she saw most of her family from abroad arrived.

That is not a new picture since there are no coordinates of her children on her upper arm.

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NaNa Says:
May 18th, 2007 at 6:33 am – flag comment

I think some people stays in relationship even though they are totally not in same page. There are people who are synical about relationship that they give up already or do not see of finding right person – in this case these people find happines from their work most times. I think Brad was in same situation. There was interview of Brad with CR in 2004 (around May, I believe). Brad said he and his ex were totally different person and did not understand each other and were going to two different ways. So is this happy life? No. But they stayed together because it was easier than finding the right person.

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I totally agree with you. After having gone through numerous interviews both in prints and videos on the internet. I’ve come to the same conclusion.

The other day I watched Charlie Rose interview with Brad in 2004 (Troy promo). I could see he was not in to a happy relationship with his ex-wife. I could clearly see it. When CR mentioned her name and his marriage. I could see that there was no AFFECTION in his description of his marriage and that they were totally two different people with completely different interests in life.

He also mentioned on OPRAH (Troy promo), that they are “NEGOTIATING” (this is the word he used) as to whether they should start a family sooner or later. This also made me realize that his ex was not in tune with his ideas of having a family together, and that all was not right at home.

I strongly believe that his marriage was in shambles way before Angie came into the picture. It was only after Angie came into the picture(2004) that made him realize MORE how miserable he was with his life with the other one.

Missouri Fan @ 05/18/2007 at 8:35 am

GOOD MORNING /AFTERNOON BAMPZS fans around the world!!

So cute to see Brad carries his children.

Brad with his youngest child —>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH8ORFzjybI

Please do not forget to vote for Brad in the Hello poll! Thank you!!

to: Caribbean Jolie-Pitt lover @ 05/18/2007 at 8:42 am

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sam Says:

May 17th, 2007 at 9:41 am – flag comment
http://yeeeah.com/blog/2007/05/17/angelina-and-maddox-hit-the-beach/

someone posted these on another thread. Looks like its from the same day around summer 2004.

its great that marianne pearl will be at the premeire on monday-the emotions that she will be feeling is probably hard to comprehend-brad finally is going to see his hard work to get this movie made come to fruition-its great that with angie starring in it that all three of them-brad,angie, and marrianne,will share something that has to be undescriable-its amazing the bond that a movie can have on indivuals-love to all

konnitiwa @ 05/18/2007 at 8:46 am

Wanted goes to Russia.
Universal is targeting Russian market.

CANNES, France (Hollywood Reporter) – Universal Pictures has named 20th Century Fox International executive Christian Grass president of the studio’s new production arm at Universal Pictures International.
The move, which takes effect in October, punctuates Universal’s efforts to beef up its overseas presence.

The studio also has inked a deal with Russian filmmaker Timur Bekmambetov and his Moscow-based production and visual effects company, Bazelevs Prods., to produce and direct Russian- and English-language films for the local and global marketplace. Bekmambetov most recently directed the fantasy action series and Russian boxoffice smashes “Night Watch” and “Day Watch.”

The deal marks Universal’s second local production pact, after its agreement with Fernando Meirelles and his 02 Filmes to develop and produce local Brazilian and Latin American films.

Universal and Bekmambetov also have created a Moscow-based theatrical marketing and releasing label, Bekmambetov Pictures, to handle the Russian marketing of the films covered by the deal. The first release under the new partnership will be the Bekmambetov-helmed action film “Wanted,” which stars James McAvoy, Morgan Freeman and Angelina Jolie. Other projects include Shane Acker’s animated film “9″ and an untitled 3-D animated ballet feature.

G’am MF :) and BAMPZS all over the world :) :)

It’s 9p.m at night here in Singapore. And i am off course at the voting centre ensuring we are maintaining our lead. :lol:

Brad is one super daddy. :) to all his 4 kidos :)
Angie is one lucky woman!! :)

Angie is one beautiful woman with substance. A mom who love her kids and many more……. :)
Brad is one lucky guy!! :)

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Caribbean Jolie-Pitt lover Says:

I agree: Angie’s “sexiness” comes from within, it’s in her mind. She isn’t inhibited, and her mind is very free. You can see her expression and when she wants to turn on the charm, there isn’t much you can do LOL :) She doesn’t have to walk around everyday exibiting her nipples poking through her blouse bra-less like Miss ORANGE. That kind of sexiness is anonymous–the face attached to the poking-out nipples can be anybody, totally replaceable. Not Angie–there is one and only.

Happy Friday all BAMPZS fans!!! I hope everyone has a great day as we head to the weekend. Thanks for keeping the post going JJ!!! Love this family! :)

I SEE 2KIDS IS BACK UNDER ANOTHER NAME-SO SAD TOO BAD -JOIN MANISTON IN THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE-LOL

what is PAYED TROLL @ 05/18/2007 at 9:07 am

132 is showing a typical pattern of PAYED TROLL.

ANGELINA SEXIEST WOMAN OF ALL TIME-HELL YEAH

#135 THIS TROLL WAS HEAR ALL OF YESTERDAY SPEWING HER SAME BULL IGNORE SHE’S LOOKING FOR ATTENTION-LET HER GO TO A MANISTON THREAD IF SHE CAN FIND ONE.

BACK TO MORE IMPORTANT MATTERS,BRAD AND ANGIE WILL LOOK GREAT AT CANNES

anyone know when the Darfur party is in cannes?

To Cliniqua etal Give it a rest. If you are such Aniston fans. Stay off this site. We love Angie and your negative comments are just taking up space. Do you see us on the Aniston web site. NO!!!! Brad and Angie and their famile are trying to make it in work. They are doing a great job of ignoring people like you and the negative rags. Go Brad and Angie and all of us fans.

this is going to be a great weekend with premieres and pics and all from Cannes.
I can’t wait..
Viva La Jolie-Pitts..

ot..
anyone know where think positive is? :(
Hope she is back this weekend.

dragonfly @ 05/18/2007 at 9:27 am

Just saw the commercial for Angie’s interview with Anne Curry next Wednesday. So looking forward to it!

But before that, of course will be Cannes. It sounds like AMH will be a low key affair at Cannes, and Angie and Brad won’t glam it up there. If this report about there only being a quiet dinner afterwards is true, I agree that is appropriate. It would be unseemly for them to be all cheesy grins and google-eyed love on that red carpet, so I completely respect that if that’s what they wind up doing.

However, at the O13 gig, I want glam (with a touch of sparkle), google-eyes AND cheesy grins! haha!!

The picture above with Brad holding Pax and Z reminds me of Angie’s words in the RD interview “everyone feels safe in his arms”. Sweet, sweet Braddy!

I think people should boycott ‘A Mighty Heart’ – aside from reports that Jolie absolutely sucks both acting and trying to play a biracial woman, Jolie does not hold a candle to Marianne Pearl. Jolie would be better suited to play the role of Paris Hilton!! The similarities between Hilton and Jolie are remarkable, they do everything they can to bring attention to themselves and are famous because of this. (That’s also why Jolie would never break up with Pitt, she’s in her glory with all the attention she so craves..)

I also don’t like Jolie in general, she seems to contradict herself a lot and show up in 3rd world countries when she’s trying to improve her public image. She appears to be very fake and contrived and that seems strange for such a wealthy person.

Please boycott everything associated with Angelina Jolie. ** John’s campaign tanked because ” upper class” woman deplore Jolie and think she is “trashy”

A Mighty Heart will most definatley tank as well.

to #132- why do you change screen names all the time?

oceans 13 @ 05/18/2007 at 9:31 am

May 22 : Cannes Film Festival Darfur fundraiser Ocean’s Thirteen fundraiser. Launch party for Not On Our Watch.

May 24 : Cannes Film Festival World Premiere Ocean’s Thirteen will premiere at the Cannes Film Festival where it will screen out of competition. “11.00-19.30″ in Grand Theatre Lumiere, by invitation.

Jun 5 : Hand & footprint ceremony for George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Matt Damon and Jerry Weintraub. 11:30 am in forecourt of Grauman’s Chinese Theatre. Footage of the event will be made available via a satellite feed.

Jun 5 : U.S. Premiere 7pm at Grauman’s Chinese Theatre in L.A. After party in the parking lot of the El Captain Theatre.

Jun 6 : Las Vegas charity screening 7pm at the Brenden theaters in the Palms Casino. Opens CineVegas.

Jun 7 : Chicago charity screening Charity event raising money for International Rescue Committee. The evening will include a screening of the movie, shown at the AMC River East 21 multiplex, followed by a star-studded after-party at the new Room 21 restaurant and nightclub, set to open at 2100 S. Wabash. Full details.

There you go.

#142 Cash says:
Wow, when your argument is so factual and eloquent, how can we not join in your boycott??? Where do we sign up???

“”I also don’t like Jolie in general, she seems to contradict herself a lot and show up in 3rd world countries when she’s trying to improve her public image. She appears to be very fake and contrived and that seems strange for such a wealthy person.”"

Can you please give some proof of these statements??? You seem to be really reaching with these comments. In case you are THAT stupid, I was being facetious about joining your hate campaign.

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dragonfly Says:
The picture above with Brad holding Pax and Z reminds me of Angie’s words in the RD interview “everyone feels safe in his arms”. Sweet, sweet Braddy!
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dragonfly ,I was thinking the same thing. Soooo sweet.

cash=troll @ 05/18/2007 at 9:39 am

Why they picked her out of the rest;

“Angelina Jolie embodies so many qualities of what St. John represents. She is strong, independent and dynamic. She’s a mother, actress and a philanthropist,” Richard Cohen, chief executive officer of St. John, said in a statement.
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And its paid off for them.
It was just announced that Angelina Jolie, St. John’s current spokesmodel, will again appear in the Fall/Winter 2007 St. John Knits ad campaign, which will be photographed soon.

Said creative consultant and former creative director Kelly Gray, “You know I can’t give you the shoot dates but she is definitely a part of that creative team and I’m proud to be a part of it.””

Said St. John chairman Jim Kelley, “We lost our way for a while with the product. We’ve got the business back on track. Things are proceeding really well.”

Angelina helped rejuvenate the dying St. John label, which is now worth over $400 million.

DO NO RESPOND TO THE HATERS! THIS ONLY WILL RUIN THE THREAD! STOP IT! IGNORE AND MOVE ON!

We have a lot to discuss, Cannes is in 2 days, plus new more interviews and more, so PLEASE take the high road.

no premieres this weekend? I think the first one in on monday with a mighty heart right?

he’s in heaven? do you know this personally? when you die will BP and AJ open the pearly gates?you guys are hilarious.

A Mighty Heart @ 05/18/2007 at 9:44 am

ABOUT THE PRODUCTION

Sharing a story

A MIGHTY HEART was filmed in Pakistan, India and France during the summer and fall of 2006. Its journey to the screen began three years earlier when Plan B Entertainment acquired the rights to Mariane Pearl’s memoir (co-written with Sarah Crichton).

“Brad’s interest in the book was inspired by Mariane’s tremendous courage, and the generosity with which she shares her story,” said producer Dede Gardner, Producer at Plan B. “The process with Mariane from the beginning was driven by mutual respect. We were very conscious that a movie without her input and approval wouldn’t be worth making.” Pearl’s feedback was sought on the screenplay and on potential directors. “We sent her films to watch and had many discussions about the qualities that we all felt were crucial to our choice of director,” said Gardner.

Michael Winterbottom began making documentaries in England in the late 1980′s and moved into dramatic features a few years later. With his 1997 film, Winterbottom began shooting dramatic stories in documentary style. To heighten the sense of reality and truth, he kept his crews lean and unobtrusive, and encouraged his actors to improvise. His preferred subjects, from the political docudrama THE ROAD TO GUANTANAMO to the lighter but still provocative 24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE, were well-suited to this approach.

A Winterbottom fan since WELCOME TO SARAJEVO, Gardner gave the prolific director Mariane Pearl’s book at a London meeting in 2004.

He was intrigued. “I was in Pakistan in 2001 when Daniel and Mariane were covering the war in Afghanistan,” he said. “We were filming IN THIS WORLD in Peshawar when we heard about Danny’s death. So I had my own experience of Pakistan when I read Mariane’s book, and I was impressed. It seemed very recognizable.”

By early 2006, he had completed two more films, including THE ROAD TO GUANTANAMO (which also filmed in Pakistan, as well as Afghanistan, Iran, Cuba and Britain). That film convinced Pitt that Winterbottom should direct A MIGHTY HEART.

“Brad called and we talked about the book and his ideas about how the film should be,” said Winterbottom. “Then I went to Paris to meet Mariane, and finally, in May, Andrew, Mariane, Dede and I went down to Namibia to meet up with Brad and Angie. That was the first time I met Angelina and it was great to see her with Mariane. They were very close and very similar – straight-forward and easy to deal with. Our conversations were practical. We talked about what should and shouldn’t be in the film.”

Still, she did worry about taking on A MIGHTY HEART. “Mariane has suffered the ugliest side of all that is going on in the world today and came out of it believing we cannot just be angry and blinded by hate, but must continue to have a dialogue,” said Jolie. “If I don’t represent her right, and people don’t see what a beautiful, strong, open-minded, loving woman she is, then I’ve done a disservice and hurt a really great woman.”

Pearl wasn’t worried. “I am delighted that Angelina Jolie is playing my role in the adaptation of my book,” she said. “I deeply admire her work and what she is committed to. I am also happy that Michael Winterbottom, a versatile and talented director who genuinely loves truth, is working on this project.”

Winterbottom used Mariane Pearl’s book as his bible in structuring the film. “We started by following her descriptions of events,” said Winterbottom. “Then I tried to meet with everyone who was with her at the time – Asra, Captain, Randall Bennett and his deputy Zahoor, Dost, John Bussey, Steve LeVine, Asif (Danny’s translator and fixer in Islamabad) and Jameel Yusuf of the Citizens Police Liaison Committee (CPLC). Each meeting added extra details to the story.”

As he cast the film, Winterbottom also asked his actors to meet with the people they would play. For Dan Futterman, that meant the people closest to Daniel Pearl, personally and professionally.

Futterman was grateful for the access, especially to Mariane. “We met in Los Angeles, where she still brings her son to visit Daniel’s parents,” said Futterman. “In what must have been a painful meeting for her, she was concerned only with making me feel comfortable, and with giving me information about Daniel, his work, family, and their relationship. We spoke and emailed repeatedly after that, and she visited all of us in France in the days before we began shooting there.”

Futterman found other sources helpful, too. “Asra Nomani was very informative about the Wall Street Journal, Pakistan and the work of journalism in general,” he continued. “Steve LeVine spoke with me extensively about the investigative work he did with Daniel in that part of the world. Daniel’s fixer in Islamabad, Asif, sat with me while we filmed in that city, to talk about working with Daniel. And Daniel’s parents, Ruth and Judea, were encouraging, informative and very generous.”

Keeping it real

“I don’t think it would have been possible to make A MIGHTY HEART without filming in Pakistan,” said Winterbottom. “The whole point of making the film would be lost. We want the audience to trust that they are seeing an accurate account of what happened.”

Pakistan is a challenging environment for filmmakers, as Winterbottom and producer Andrew Eaton learned in 2001 while shooting IN THIS WORLD. “It wasn’t a pleasant time to be there,” said Eaton. “There was a real fear among Pakistan authorities for the safety of Western people working there.”

Eaton knew the pitfalls as he began the process of obtaining official permissions for A MIGHTY HEART. “Our best ally was Kamal Shah, Secretary of the Interior Ministry,” said the veteran producer. “Shah was head of Sindh (state) police in Karachi when Danny was kidnapped. He understood what the film was trying to do, and felt the portrayal of the collaboration between Pakistan and U.S. authorities ultimately shed a good light on Pakistan.” The Pakistani actors agreed. “When you read the script and the book, you see a very fair representation in terms of the people who were helping,” said Mikail Lotia, who plays Captain’s young computer expert. “I felt it was worth trying to bring that across on screen.”

Principal photography began with filming in Karachi, Islamabad and Rawalpindi, on the cusp of monsoon season. “We filmed on the streets and in the real locations that Danny went to – the Village Restaurant where he was to meet Imitaz Siddique, the CPLC offices, Cybernet and the Hotel Akbar where he met Bashir,” said Winterbottom. “We stayed at the Sheraton in Karachi (as John Bussey and Steve LeVine did during the search for Daniel Pearl).”

India would serve as the setting for Asra Nomani’s house, the story’s central location. Danny and Mariane stayed there when they visited Karachi, and later, the team searching for Danny made it their headquarters. The house for the film was found in a community called Sindh Society in the city of Pune, home to many Pakistanis. The production spent five weeks at the Pune house, before moving west to Mumbai for several more weeks of work.

Like Karachi, Mumbai is a teeming city on the Arabian Sea. Irrfan Khan, the quietly intense Indian actor who plays Captain, was on his home turf there. “He had as many people chasing after him in Mumbai as Angelina did,” said Winterbottom. The company filmed at iconic landmarks including the Gateway of India and Churchgate Station, as well as at local madrassas, a morgue, and a maternity ward. Street scenes ranged from police raids to an ecstatic Ganesh procession.

Filming in all locations proceeded in typical Winterbottom style: director of photography Marcel Zyskind, who has worked on seven films with Winterbottom, operated a hand-held DV camera. There were no rehearsals, and no master shots or attendant series of close-ups. Most takes ran the full length of a scene, and scenes were shot in sequence. Winterbottom didn’t call “action” or tell anyone where the camera would be. That was decided in the moment, sometimes with Winterbottom gripping the back of Zyskind’s shirt to steer him. Natural light was used whenever possible to allow actors and camera freedom of movement.

“Michael creates an environment which feels as little like a movie set as possible,” said Futterman. “He’s looking, I think, for those surprising and unscripted moments of authenticity.”

Winterbottom asked the actors to treat the script’s dialogue as a starting point and improvise as much as possible. “They have spent time with the real characters, so they have heard how they talk. They know details of their personal stories and their points of view on these events,” he said. “We try to shoot the whole scene as it would naturally happen, and we shoot the entire scene on each take to allow a natural rhythm to develop. The scene can then change and evolve with each performance.”

Improvising within the framework of complicated and sensitive facts kept everyone on their toes. “We’re playing journalists, so we’re always discussing facts,” said Archie Panjabi, the Indian-born British actress who plays Asra, and previously worked with Winterbottom on CODE 46. “Just the number of names and people and aliases and organizations involved in the case made it incredibly challenging – especially when you don’t know what the other actors are going to say.”

It paid off. “It felt like we were really in these moments together, and shooting the scenes in order made it much more real for us,” said Jolie.

Jolie’s transformation added another layer of authenticity, and put American actor Gary Wilmes in the right mood on his first day as reporter Steve LeVine. “I hadn’t met Angelina yet, so I walked into Asra’s house for the first time as Steve did in real life,” he recalled. “I had never seen her without the wig, and felt much more that I was with Mariane than with Angelina.”

Before coming to India, the production visited the south of France for scenes including Danny and Mariane’s wedding, at Chateau de Valmousse in Lambesc. Futterman had already filmed in Pakistan, but the wedding day was Jolie’s first on set.

“The way Michael shoots, I had no rehearsal,” said Jolie. “I was in my room getting ready and they said, ‘Okay, come down the stairs.’ So that was it. I walked into the wedding and we said our vows. I had looked at Danny’s and Mariane’s wedding footage just before, and it made me terribly sad. It was such a happy moment for her, so beautiful. They loved each other so much, those two, and you can see it in the wedding. It was hard not to cry.”
The day after the wedding sequence, Jolie was filmed on the street in Marseilles, portraying Mariane after she has left Karachi to await her son’s birth. “She was walking down the street heavily pregnant, in a long gray skirt, carrying two shopping bags,” Walter recalled. “People walked past her, and bumped into her, and nobody recognized her. It was quite amazing.”

A connected group

While highly regarded actors filled A MIGHTY HEART’S principal roles from the U.S., England, India and Pakistan, many small roles went to non-actors, mostly from Pakistan. “There’s not a big acting community in Pakistan,” said Wendy Brazington (24 HOUR PARTY PEOPLE), Winterbottom’s casting director since 1997. “So if a guy on the street looked right for the part, we grabbed him.”

Visa hassles aside, Winterbottom was keen on bringing people from Pakistan to India, for the authenticity they contributed, and to expand their horizons. “People like the taxi drivers or Shabir (Asra’s houseman) had never been on a plane before, or outside Pakistan,” he said. “Our real fixer from Islamabad played the fixer Masud, and our fixer from Peshawar on IN THIS WORLD came to India and played an I.S.I. officer.”

Karachi travel agent Telal Saeed was uniquely qualified to play ‘Kaleem,’ the character based on Jameel Yusuf. Yusuf heads CPLC, formed in 1989 by Karachi industrialists to recover kidnap victims. Saeed knew him socially, and then professionally when his own nephew was kidnapped and held for 91 days. “CPLC has state of the art equipment, computerized for surveillance, especially for monitoring phone calls,” said Saeed. “The FBI was surprised to see their set-up and coordinated with them on the Daniel Pearl case.”

Saeed’s brother Bilal, a hotelier and father of the kidnapped boy, was cast as interior minister Moinuddin Haider.
“It was a very connected group,” said Jolie. “I didn’t even know who was a non-actor because it all just felt right.”

It felt right behind the camera, too, where Winterbottom’s long-standing team worked alongside Indian and Pakistani crew members. “What was really great was that Dede and Plan B, and especially Angie, were so relaxed and friendly, that all these people with completely different experiences just got on with it,” said Winterbottom.

Jolie understood the potential for risk, and for reward. “We talked about the risks before we started filming, the security concerns and what it would mean politically if we got it wrong. We could anger more people and make it worse,” she said. “But if by some small chance we get it right, maybe we can do a little something towards bringing people back together, or at least looking at each other in another light.”

#142 Cash Says
Is the pungent, rotting odour coming from you trash..er I mean cash ? Take a hide sewagebrain.

Intense Much? @ 05/18/2007 at 9:48 am

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Cash Says:
May 18th, 2007 at 9:28 am – flag comment

WOW, such intense hatred for someone who has not done anything to you. You have serious issues and you better take care of it before you find yourself jumping off a bridge.

All the things you wish would happen to Angie, will never happen so be prepared to live a very miserable life.

cash=troll @ 05/18/2007 at 9:51 am

Hey troll, you don’t have to like Angelina. Mariane does, they are friends so take you bitter self back to ff.

BTW Angelina has been getting Oscar buzz and positive reviews from those that have seen A Mighty Heart.

life is a b!tch ain’t it. lol

CINDI LEIVE: So Mariane, you started to tell me the story of how you guys initially met, which to my surprise had absolutely nothing to do with A Mighty Heart.

MARIANE PEARL: One day a few years ago, I was alone in New York with Adam, still having a rough time [after Danny’s death]. I read an interview with Angie in a magazine, about her and Maddox and her life as a single mom. And I thought, this woman could be my friend…. I’d never experienced anything like that before in my life. It was something in her tone, in the answers that she gave. I felt also that Maddox and Adam [then both about three] could be good friends. So I sent her a note saying, do you want to have a playdate?

Intense Much? @ 05/18/2007 at 9:52 am

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Cash Says:
May 18th, 2007 at 9:28 am – flag comment

WOW, such intense hatred for someone who has not done anything to you. You have serious issues and you better take care of it before you find yourself jumping off a bridge.

All the things you wish would happen to Angie, will never happen so be prepare to be very miserable.

Alexanderina @ 05/18/2007 at 9:56 am

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oceans 13 Says: May 18th, 2007 at 9:31 am – flag comment

Thanks for the info on O13. I can’t wait for this movie to come out, really looking for to seeing Danny, Rusty and the rest of the gang

The real lou @ 05/18/2007 at 10:03 am

OK, let’s try to ignore the trolls/critics.I almost feel sorry for them due to the fact they are obsessed with a woman they claim not to like.That would be like me being obsessed with say Britney Spears(shudder)I honestly could not picture life googling that woman daily,searching for negative articles about her,just to go several sites to sprew hate about her!Sad thing is that the trolls/critics do this EVERYDAY!Life is good, put the trolls on IGNORE!

OMG we have a lot to discsuss, cause lets face it, this is our lives and without these two we would perish.

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right… Says:

why are you here?

GrassHopper @ 05/18/2007 at 10:11 am

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Caribbean Jolie-Pitt lover Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 8:21 am – flag comment
Nice pic. I dont think I’ve ever seen a pic of Angie in a bikini before. Yet she’s topped “most sexy”, “most beautiful” lists for years. And she did it without tons of silicone too. That says a lot.

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Reason you dont see her in bikini’s it because she does not have a body to fill a bikini she makes those lists because of her sexual nature duh!

KrungKrung @ 05/18/2007 at 10:11 am

what’s the big deal if Shiloh was planned or not? past is past, let’s focus on the future shall we?

Grasshopper – but not without a nose job.

I am really good at ignoring NEGATIVE COMMENTS by so called pea sized brain haters. So all of us can try and be like Me. hahaha!!

Its basically because anything that is Negative gives me HEADACHE.

I’d rather bask in the glory of Brad, Angie and their 4 beautiful little children than to read hateful comments.

The real lou @ 05/18/2007 at 10:21 am

God, I’m loving the pictures of Brad and his childern!Zahara cracks me up with her facial expressions.I bet she’s a firecracker at home,lol.

KrungKrung @ 05/18/2007 at 10:21 am

was watching the Today show while ago, during the commercial they showed an xclusive Angelina Jolie interview on wednesday on the Today show and Dateline, here they go again saying xclusive but it’s not really xclusive especially if they will only show like 5 or 10 minutes interview clip, i know how it goes am not stupid, they need to change their style cuz it’s getting old, but we’ll see, i might be wrong but i doubt it hehe….btw, where is Angie filming her new movie, is it in Prague? or outside of Prague?

O.A. ang mga haterz @ 05/18/2007 at 10:22 am

Mga sira ang ulo nitong mga haters/naysayers. Bakit ang dilim ng mga ulo nila? On the other hand, it makes you feel sad for them kasi hindi siguro sila nakaka get nang attention sa bahay/buhay nila. Hindi nila ma- appreciate ang mga biyaya naibigay ni Lord sa itong lalaki- Brad, visa-versa 4 Angelina. Kung ano ano ang mga sinasabi na masama nitong mga haters/naysayers sa magandang pamilya na ito kaya ang mundo natin ay talagang sira! Itong mga OGAG ay kulingling talaga to the max. Ang OA OA!

Pero one thing is for sure, kahit ano pang isulat ng mga ogag including the damn rags, na masasama o yung walang kuwentang katarantadohan/sillyness about this family, MAS HIGIT PA AKONG HAHANGA sa itong dalawa- Brad and Angelina. Sana po ay na intindihan ninyo ang (simple?) tagalog rant ko po.

I wish these two and the fam the best!

Haterz can kiss my filipino ****!!

I think Pax is upset by the paps. Zee is too. They react differently. She looks upset and ready to kick butts, he looks frightened and ready to cry. Very interesting post about paid trolls. Of course, I also think there are some crazy obssessives out here you wouldn’t even have to pay.

GrassHopper @ 05/18/2007 at 10:25 am

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cash=troll Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 9:51 am – flag comment
Hey troll, you don’t have to like Angelina. Mariane does, they are friends so take you bitter self back to ff.

BTW Angelina has been getting Oscar buzz and positive reviews from those that have seen A Mighty Heart.

life is a b!tch ain’t it. lol

CINDI LEIVE: So Mariane, you started to tell me the story of how you guys initially met, which to my surprise had absolutely nothing to do with A Mighty Heart.

MARIANE PEARL: One day a few years ago, I was alone in New York with Adam, still having a rough time [after Danny’s death]. I read an interview with Angie in a magazine, about her and Maddox and her life as a single mom. And I thought, this woman could be my friend…. I’d never experienced anything like that before in my life. It was something in her tone, in the answers that she gave. I felt also that Maddox and Adam [then both about three] could be good friends. So I sent her a note saying, do you want to have a playdate?

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One play date makes them friends? Being a single parent because the other parent died and being a single parent because you didnt want to wear his blood anymore are two different things. Angelina chose to be single parent, Marina did not. Angelina had money and luxuries in life that Marine did not, what an insult that they lived similar lives. She sent her a letter and what did Angelina reply to it? Or only after she hooked up with Brad and wanted to do her story … now she has this connection. What a joke, chic needs to get some mental help. The book was great, will not see the movie to hear Angelina with that stupid accent.

Caribbean Jolie-Pitt lover @ 05/18/2007 at 10:25 am

Thanks for the pics Sam and you too Jared!:) To Cash…please, I hardly think they give Oscars to just anybody. Bad actresses dont get the opportunity to star opposite big guns like Denzel, Clive Owen, Nic Cage (well former big gun anyways) and Brad Pitt. Mamacita Jolie can act, no doubt. You gotta find some other dead horse to flog, not her acting skills.

Andrómeda @ 05/18/2007 at 10:28 am

If I could be in his arms!!!…Such a sweet man!!
Good morning everyone…I agree with some of you: let’s ignore the haters and the negative comments.
Love this family!!!

Jared's the PROBLEM! @ 05/18/2007 at 10:28 am

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PEOPLE! Says:
May 18th, 2007 at 9:41 am

DO NO RESPOND TO THE HATERS! THIS ONLY WILL RUIN THE THREAD! STOP IT! IGNORE AND MOVE ON!
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Don’t blame the haters, blame JARED! He’s the one allwoing them to post here. All he has to do is IP BAN the haters & then things would be fine here. But he refuses to do that so we should TAKE OUR BUISNESS ELSEWHERE!

Abandon JJ and post on the FANSITES! Bradfans or SoulieJolie is where we should all be posting. There’s no reason to be here on JJ anymore facing constant harrasment.

We need to hit “flag comment” on EVERY troll post & write in the comment box that if this TROLL is not deleted we will ABANDON THIS SITE and let Jared know that his site hits will DECREASE significantly & his advistisers will FLEE.

Put up or shut up time jared. Protect your customers from TROLLS or we are GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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A Mighty Heart Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 9:44 am – flag comment
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Thank you for posting the article. It’s a great one.

Good point #160 the future for B&A is a very short time so suck it up while you can. Eventually you ppl will have to get back to your lives … so enjoy another day of Brad picking up the kids from school.

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Jared’s the PROBLEM! Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 10:28 am – flag comment

it’s a blog for fcuk’s sake. If you don’t like Jared’s blog go elsewhere. Stop hating on him

피트 짱!! 최고로 멋져요 오빠~~~~~~~~!! 캬캭

Same ol same ol @ 05/18/2007 at 10:44 am

Some things never change here, the trolls here are working and some of you are very stupid to keep playing their game, I was expecting smart people, but most of the brangelina fans here are not that bright.

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Mmmmm Says:
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Your crystal ball tells you this right? Since you know what will happen in the future, since you are all knowing, what are the winning Mega Millions numbers? All I need are at least 3 or 4 of them, I’m not greedy.

Brad tattoo I know what it is it’s the outline of the man in the ice if you get a good close up you will see just google BODY MODIFICATION AMONG NEANDERTALS it’s the first one on the page then at the bottom of that page click on page 3.

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O.A. ang mga haterz Says:

Wala kang magagawa, mga hunghang ang mga panatiko ni Babalina, eh. We should just relax and support the Jolie-Pitts, next week is a very busy week for them, with everyone at Cannes a-twitter over their expected arrival (shows you who the megastars are, di ba), then of course the showing of O13 (and the attendant big-time premieres) and AMH. That’s why the haters are going crazy in overdrive — nothing they do or say can stop the juggernaut that is the Jolie-Pitts!!!

grasshopper who care?
PLEASE IGNORE HATERS

please grasshopper needs more attention and love.
brad + angie =heaven
brad+angie= forever
brad=angie=hot hot hot
i love you grasshopper you are my idol!

I just love this amazing man, a true king!!!

Brad is a no show @ 05/18/2007 at 11:03 am

Brad won’t be at the chicago premiere of oceans’ 13 http://pics.livejournal.com/pittimpression2/pic/003423ra/g226

arctic cat @ 05/18/2007 at 11:04 am

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dragonfly Says:
……………………………….The picture above with Brad holding Pax and Z reminds me of Angie’s words in the RD interview “everyone feels safe in his arms”. Sweet, sweet Braddy!

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I agree. Brad is a good father.

Good father = interacts with his kids, picks them up from daycare?
should he leave them at daycare and forget to pick them up?
should he NOT touch his kids.
That hardly makes a good father. Just a normal one.

Brad’s tatoo – Tomb raider ? LMAO I’ll take the ice man theory.

to GrassHopper @ 05/18/2007 at 11:08 am

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GrassHopper
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Of course, you wont see the movie BECAUSE you dont have the $9. Besides, you are too CHEAP. You subscribe to Netflex.

Arent you the one who said BABEL wont do well? Look , dometic and international grossed over 120M. Why dont you shut your trap and watch Jerry Springer !!!!

LOL….Brad is better than Johnny Depp, yeah ok.

aw…tomb raider…well surely NOW they are staying together forever and ever and ever and ever and ever….

Brad is no way in hell better actor than Johnny Deep.

I want to know how in HELL that stupid website came to the conclusion that Brad’s tat represents ‘tomb raider’….. i guess the dum a** blogger figured oh he’s with Angie so it MUST be tomb raider!!!

Brad's new tattoo @ 05/18/2007 at 11:22 am

Why would he want to have OTZI the iceman tatoo on his arm?

zther must be some kind of significance to him.

Brad's new tattoo @ 05/18/2007 at 11:23 am

Why would he want to have OTZI the iceman tattoo on his arm?

There must be some kind of significance to it.

The real lou @ 05/18/2007 at 11:27 am

#182 Brad’s tattoo and #186 susie,Thanks for the links!Hopefully someone will ask him about the tat in a interview.:lol:

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PTI Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 11:11 am – flag comment
Brad is no way in hell better actor than Johnny Deep.

THAT’S YOUR OPINION.
We are Brad fans, you are on a brad thread. Did you get lost? Go find Johnny

Cause Otzi looks like Ang, boney, lotsa tats.
YEAH

right.
why are yo here?
You don’t like Brad , so you just like to waste your time?
What a loser

be careful @ 05/18/2007 at 11:40 am

to all fans-

We dont want to give mag any ideas.

Be careful that the mag is NOT picking up the tatoo discussions.

Dont fall into the TRAP of speculating and START DISCUSSING.

201 – why do you bash people who don’t like them?
I’m a loser? LOL, cause you know me personally. Right. Me and Brad and AJ and JA
YEAH

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TBI Says:
May 18th, 2007 at 2:24 am – flag comment
67
Lylian
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How sweet of you, a rotten egg of a post comes along every once and awhile a stink bomb comes along and clears the room,
Congratulations so for this weekend yours is the winner, hang tight
it’s early yet!!lol

Brrrrrrrrrrad!! (i love you)

___________________

lol, you’re fun to tease!!

I’m sorry but there is no way Brad has Laura croft tomb raider on his arm.
That’s just not him.
Nobody knows what the tattoo is or the signifigance of it.

I will never understand why people who can’t stand Brad, hang out all day on his thread.
I would never even click on a Tom thread, or a Britney thread. They simply don’t interest me in the least.

Its really odd.

People featured in an architectural drawing to represent scale are drawn that way…LeCorbusier was the French architect that originated the skech person that is affectionately revered in the architectural world.

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right…
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then why do you bash this family? you dont know them personally?

Listen up, kids………………………..its gonna be a loooooooooooong weekend with looooooooooooooots of FABULOUS pix, news, reviews and threads to look forward to on JJ about our favourite family!
So gird yourselves for the onslaught of trolls who will be polluting this site. You KNOW they cant help themselves.

And it has alreay begun.

But remember………..Never forget…………that after surviving 2005 and 2006, BAMPZS fans can survive ANY attack from the no-lifes who insist on coming here to lay their stinky trails. Remember, we no longer have to prove anything to the assortment of haterz, trolls and other instigators who come here to try to bait us. Life and history have proven to even the blind and deaf, all that BAMPZS fans have been saying about the sexiest most beautiful and most intriguing couple in the world.

We BAMPZS fans should be pros now at IGNORING those who are not one of us.

suspicious package @ 05/18/2007 at 11:54 am

As an archeology fanatic, I find it very interesting that Brad has an Otzi tattoo. Otzi is older than the pyramids and was covered in mysterious tattoos. He has revealed more about stone age life in Europe than any other archeological discovery.

Very good choice.

Billy Brad @ 05/18/2007 at 11:55 am

OMG I am laughing my ass off at Brad’s lame tattoo. He seems like he’s a 40 something year old desperately trying to come off as cool, LMAo it’s not natural for him. Why doesn’t he try being himself instead of an Angelina jolie rip off or Billy Bob number two.

ah i think I just figured their relationship out. Angelina was never really over BBT and now she’s turning Brad into her very own BBT clone. Ahahah

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Caribbean Jolie-Pitt lover Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 8:05 am – flag comment
I’ve always been more of an Angie than a Brad fan, I’ve watched everything she’s been in. Brad was always “ok”, though he was hotness personified in Troy. Now that he’s hooked up with Ange his hotness has gone thru the roof for me hehe…nothing like seeing a sexy, caring, loving daddy with his kids.

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Me too ! Actually I was more familiar with Brad than Angie before, but after this so called “triangle” started, I start reading and do some research on Angie past interivews, can’t help it, start loving and appreciate this woman, She’s so real, down to earth, compasionate, intelligent, woman with depth not shallow like most HW actresses. while my impression on Brad before was the Ken doll in HW, rich and good looking couple just like the Beckman, rich and famous but shallow nothing interesting. not until he hook up with Angie. that I did pay some special interest on him, I did have some doubt in the beginning of their relations, doubt of Brad’s sincerity in this relations bcos of his previous life with his X was so shallow and vain. but after this 2 yrs, I don’t know if it’s the real Brad or new Brad, but anyway, he seems to be really enjoying his role as Dad and as Angie ‘s partner for life. He’s really lucky to have Angie. ! I hope he realize that.

Why would he tatoo an iceman? Because he is an idiot?
If that’s the tomb raider, YEAH, THEY WILL STAY TOGETHER “FOREVER”, THAT IS, UNTIL SHE DROPS THE POSER!

GrassHopper @ 05/18/2007 at 12:02 pm

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to GrassHopper Says:

Never saw Babel either. I am cheaped based on what again? I am sorry, my fault I forgot you were an idiot!

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GrassHopper Says
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I’m sure Angelina doesn’t care whether you’ll be watching her movie or not.

Billy Brad @ 05/18/2007 at 12:07 pm

he is such a wannabe.

I submitted these comments on the Cannes thread, but they didn’t post. I just wanted to point out a couple of pictures on that thread that I thought were so wonderful. Gawd these newest pictures are so priceless. Looking at these pictures one would have to be truly stupid not to see the joy in these little people. Pax has lot fewer worry lines in his little face. But it is that little firecracker Z that I am totally enjoying. All of the pictures are great, but look at #19 where she is facing Pax. The look on her little face. I bet you she is telling Pax, “Don’t worry if those Papzs bother us my daddy will punch them in the nose, and I will also.” Notice her little fist is in a ball ready to help where needed. Two other favorites are #10 and 13. She is such a spunky little firecracker who has come such a long way. Someone posted some pictures of her early days. Look at the changes and you have to like if you don’t love the Jolie/Pitts. No one has said that they were perfect, but they are good people trying to do good things and Z is a living example of that goodness.

ok I get it now people who claim to not like Brad. Are actually completely obsessed with Him.

how the hell is Brad a wannabe. He has everything in the world.
Billy Bob not so much.

Please ignore the troublemakers. They had nothing to this thread.

Do you ever wonder why everyday some people are stationed here to make negative comments? They are stirring up the next conversation for a tabloid report? Jolie Pitts are in Cannes soon, keep the conversation positive along that line. Speculations about what we do not know is not important. These people’s career and humanitarian work should be promoted now. I’m sure that’s what the fans should focus on.

Sorry. The pictures I am referring are not on the Cannes thread. They are on the Brad, Pax, and Z thread. Numbers 10, 13, and 19. I realize we have ventured beyond those, but for those who haven’t they are worth a look. Z is a spunky little firecracker. Peace. :):):)

When exactly a mighty heart premier in Cannes, 20 or 21 of May, 2007?
I can’t wait to see Jolie-Pitt and MP.

GrassHopper @ 05/18/2007 at 12:24 pm

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Or that you stalk her like a nutcase LOL!

Billy Brad @ 05/18/2007 at 12:25 pm

He’s a wannabe BBT because Angelina still LOVES BBT.

Duh

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Billy Brad Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 12:25 pm – flag comment
He’s a wannabe BBT because Angelina still LOVES BBT.

Duh

than why isn’t she with him?
duh !

tsk tsk tsk @ 05/18/2007 at 12:32 pm

224
ok Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 12:29 pm – flag comment
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Billy Brad Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 12:25 pm – flag comment
He’s a wannabe BBT because Angelina still LOVES BBT.

Duh

than why isn’t she with him?
duh !
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Thank you! Thank you! As if Angelina would help left BBT if she still loved him! Angelina is the kind of woman who sticks with the guy she is with if the relationship is working, but if not, especially to the detriment of her children, she will leave. She is a very independent woman.

Can people answer to my question, i/o engaging with the trolls????? :-)

JP and MP will be in Cannes 20 or 21 may 2007 pls??? I hv googled it but still confused.

Billy Brad @ 05/18/2007 at 12:54 pm

Obviously Angelina doesn’t just go for the looks in a person. ahaha
Brad is even getting super skinny just like BBT.

Stop responding to the trolls. You need not answer their questions nor do you need to ask them why they are here. We all know why they are here. Let them talk to themselves. Maybe there is only one making a conversation with himself
just to pollute this thread. Let us enjoy these pictures of the children and their loving father..BRAD. A few more years and we will have Zahara fighting the paps and the haters on this thread.

Amazing how we have lots of idiotic trolls here – who think they can persuade or change the minds of the BAMPZS fans. :D
#142 Cash my A S S, you are barking on the wrong tree, loser!!!

Hubby and I don’t go see much movies, but since he’s into this 9/11/political stuff, we’ll be definitely seeing AMH!!!

well Brad is Beautiful so clearly she does care.
HE is the FATHER of Her Children NOT BBT. She DID NOT have BBT’s babies did she?
Angelina is NEVER where She does not want to be.
Brad is a Prince. He could have any girl He wants, He wanted Angelina and She obviously wanted Brad, they are a family and you are a troll.
You clearly are obsessed with Brad.

Mr and Mrs Smith @ 05/18/2007 at 1:01 pm

Guys, remember this:

a troll is someone who intentionally posts derogatory or otherwise inflammatory messages about sensitive topics in an established online community such as an online discussion forum to bait users into responding., where mischief is caused in order to ensure chaos is spread

The real lou @ 05/18/2007 at 1:06 pm

People stop engaging the trolls!I just find it funny that certain people have this “white bread” image of Brad.Not me,I AWAYS knew the man had some freak in him(and I mean in a good way:lol:)Look certain movies roles and don’t get me started on the photos he has taken in the past.Brad is very sexual and a bit of a rebel.Notice how his sleeve is pulled up on the arm with the tat as if to say”yeah I got a new tat,F*ck you.”The man isn’t hiding it!

To Billy Brad @ 05/18/2007 at 1:10 pm

Angelina is with the man she wants to be with, and that man is Brad Pitt. She knows who she wants, and she has let the world know that BRAD PITT IS THE MAN SHE LOVES.

Your obsession with BBT is interesting, and you should persue it instead of wasting your time here. He’s now in his mid to late 50′s so he won’t be able to run as fast he once could when you try to lasso him and tie him up. Good luck!

Your obsession with BBT is interesting, and you should persue it instead of wasting your time here. He’s now in his mid to late 50’s so he won’t be able to run as fast he once could when you try to lasso him and tie him up. Good luck!

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lol, that is very funny.. I like that image.
cheers.

********new thread *********

#74

I SECOND THE MOTION TO THAT!!!

ANGELINA IS ONE LUCKY WOMAN!!!

#151/A MIGHTY HEART SAYS:

Thank you for that wonderful, informative article. It is interesting to know what’s their opinions from these people that involves in a project or film making.

BRAD IS SO SEXY AND HE LOOKS SO COOL.

Father of the Millinium. Period.

Plus if you are going to be a Dad: YOU MUST look this hot. Should be a rule.

Zahara is a doll. Her eyes are like marbles. What a beautiful child. Future Iman, no doubt.

Question regarding the kids’ school: I have always wondered the process of schooling for kids like Madonna’s brood and the Jolie-Pitts.

The kids attend international schools while parents are working. Do they have tutors during non-shooting times? How long do they attend these schools for?

It is quite a sophisticated and worldy way of living. I kndw a girl who I went to private school with whose father was a Diplomat and she attended all these great schools throughout the world. I never understood since I was only 8 or 9 how this was done.

She was the daughter of an African UN representative.

someone points out that The Saint is a raging hypocrite (and a liar : :i got knocked up changed to Shiloh was planned!?1 wtf?), and the Loonies get all riled up.

Loons, face it, the Saint, is no saint at all. She is freaking homewrecker (Billy bob and Laura Dern, Jen and Brad, almost with Kylie and Olivier). She is sick in the head. You’ll see. SOmeday.

When I took a closer look at the photos of Brad and Maddox It seems that Maddox is holding two paper aeroplanes and Brad is holding a drawing of two aeroplanes and one or two helicopters. He obviously thinks his parents are pretty cool.

Ange and Brad are hot and their family are sooo cute. Love them! and I love all the hatters too. your so crazy it makes me laugh. pure entertainment.

I’m a fan but have never put them in the saints category; you and so many naysayers are the only ones that keep portraying them as saints!!! I’ll pray that someday you and many haterz will get to finally see the light, maybel.

[Oh yea, get your facts straight next time, meaning not from trashbloids, k?]

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Thanks I missed the airplanes Maddox was holding. Also it does look like planes are drawn on the paper Brad has. How sweet and cut Maddox is.

Bystander @ 05/19/2007 at 2:33 am

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GrassHopper Says:

Reason you dont see her in bikini’s it because she does not have a body to fill a bikini she makes those lists because of her sexual nature duh!

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duhh you don’t have to done a bikini to be the “most sexy” only cheap actress like X would do that and still would not be considered sexy ..double duhhhh you really got a pea brain like the grasshopper.

Bystander @ 05/19/2007 at 2:44 am

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Mmmmm Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 10:34 am – flag comment
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GrassHopper Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 10:25 am – flag comment

bwahahhahaha jealous ******* ..hate all you can everyday 24/7 hope you’ll feel mesirable all your life… i hope you’ll never get over your hatred and you two will end up bitter old HAGS with nobody to love you.

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maybel Says:

Stop reading the tabloid lies as your gospel. NO MAN LEAVE A HAPPY MARRIAGE ! Laura Dern, Oliver Martinez, these stories all came from the tabloids not a legit interview, and you believe it ! and in Maniston case, her best friemd Cox said Brad didn’t cheat in the ugly VF interview. while Maniston play the victim card inorder to save his comatous career. I’m sure you also believe Angie used some voodoo spell to trap Brad , that’s what reported from the tab. bwahahahaha…..

To 160 GrassHopper Says

Maniston was caught topless several times by the razzi, but still can’t make it the top 100 sexiest women list. boohoo.

maybel Says:

May 18th, 2007 at 10:00 pm – flag comment
someone points out that The Saint is a raging hypocrite (and a liar : :i got knocked up changed to Shiloh was planned!?1 wtf?), and the Loonies get all riled up.

Loons, face it, the Saint, is no saint at all. She is freaking homewrecker (Billy bob and Laura Dern, Jen and Brad, almost with Kylie and Olivier). She is sick in the head. You’ll see. SOmeday.

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yes, AJ is sick and so ARE YOU!. you are simply jealous because you probably realize that JA would never have BP back. oh, what a cruel heart you have. don’t you realize that by attacking AJ AND BP you are actually showing how PITIFUL a person you are?

probably, you don’t want AJ to have BP because she was a bad girl. unfotunately, she is considered to be the most beautiful person inside out now by her peers. and it sucked your idol! it leaves your idol far far far away BEHIND!

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malou Says:
May 19th, 2007 at 6:18 am – flag comment
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You are definitely a BLUBBER! Gosh, Malou – it has been more than two years since Brad left Aniston and you are still weeping? You are the one inside the loony bin. SNAP OUT OF IT!

(I am so sorry to tell you that your nightmare of Brad and Angie being happy together is real,
so just deal with it, sweetheart..)

Malou, my mistake – BIG SORRY from me..

My reply is for maybel, the one from loony bin.

Hello everyone. I hope y’all doing well.

Kind of off-topic:
I’ve been thinking about this girl that I used to be friends with. She was white and she told me flat out that she would never date a guy that wasn’t white because she would want her kids to look her. At the time and now, I took offense to that because both my parents are Cambodian and my older sisters and I really don’t look like them. I would love my kids no matter who looked like.

If she worded it differently like, “I want to see a reflection of myself in my kids” I may have reacted differently, but then I hear Rosie talk about her kids and how she sees Kelli’s and her personality traits in them and with the exception their youngest (Vivi) they’re all adopted. Angie has said the same thing about Mad when she first got him. She said that even though he’s adopted he was very much her son because she saw herself in his personality.

So, I don’t necessarily believe that parents have to have biological kids to see a reflection of themselves. It’s admirable that Brad, Angie, Hugh Jackman, Rosie and other adoptive parents feel this way.

quelqu’un parle t-il français ?

They are so cute,I love Maddox smile.Where is little princess Shiloh?Can she walk now
alone?Would love to see more pix of her.
Jared you make a fantastic job.Thans from germany.

Francophile @ 05/19/2007 at 6:55 pm

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Je parle Français.

Je m’appelle angele. +)

He is the sexy dad of the year. I love his kind so much. I just love him. thank for the photo’s are very cool

wow the little african girl is way cuter than sophia coppalla little ugh kid who would have thought go fiqure

omg hehe wow that’s nice seeing all pitt, his children and jolie together. love seeing this pictures of them.

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