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Gerard Butler - Vanity Fair Oscar Party

Gerard Butler - Vanity Fair Oscar Party

Gerard Butler flashes a smile at the Vanity Fair Oscar Party held at Sunset Tower on Sunday (February 26) in West Hollywood, Calif.

The 42-year-old actor was spotted out the night before at the Weinstein Company and Chopard pre-Oscar party! Before the party, Gerard enjoyed a solo lunch at Coogies restaurant.

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Gerard recently successfully completed a rehab treatment program for issues with prescription drug abuse. His rep issued a statement that he “returned home in good health.”

FYI: Gerry is wearing $10,000 of gold and diamond cufflinks by David Webb.

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# 1

Can we send Gerard’s always too tight pants to tailoring rehab?

# 2

@oy: …and immediately. :)

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Just an observation @ 02/27/2012 at 3:27 am

His face looks a bit…tighter.

# 4

GORGEOUS !!
Stay healthy Gerry, your looking great !

# 5

Is it just me or does Gerry have a brand new spray tan?
New hair dye, spray tan … He’s been spending more time prettying himself up for parties than he has on his sobriety.

# 6

He looks great! :)

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Kristy Lee @ 02/27/2012 at 3:47 am

He looks gorgeous – absolutely stunning!

# 9

@me:
I think he had a brow lift as well. His eyes look more “open”.

Gotta love it. If Gerry’s working himself into the ground and looks tired everyone carps about how old, worn out etc etc he looks. If he’s looking great everybody carps that he must have had work done or there’s something wrong with his hair or clothes. No offense, but it would seem that the man can’t win either way. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.

http://www.gettyimages.com.au/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&mt=photography&p=gerard+butler# (click on each picture to enlarge – it will in a separate window)
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i think he looks great – youthful and refreshed – not skinny and not botoxed.
i don’t know how you can tell from a picture he is botoxed. Just like i don’t know how people can see from a picture a drastic weight loss. It’s crazy. It’s more imaginary than real.
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we need video; we need the person to move around and make facial expressions before we can be sure. it’s impossible to tell from a still photo.

@Paisley:
I can’t agree more.
it’s all imagination in their head, nothing more, as you can’t tell much from still photos. Sometimes a perosn just poses wrong, or has a split- second expression on, which can mislead us into thinking he had work down. Honestly, it’s really silly.

good grief @ 02/27/2012 at 4:18 am

@Paisley:
Gotta love it. On the fan sites, no matter how far into the gutter Gerry stoops you still think he sh,its rainbows. He wins if he does and he wins if he doesn’t. You kiss his a,ss and send him “unconditional love” no matter what he does. At least on JJ we don’t have blinders on. Fans like you are ENABLERS. You are his worst enemy right now and you don’t even know it.

OK, here you can see him in photo after photo and he looks normal. The only things diffrent about him is he had his hair colored to got rid of the gary (which makes him look much younger), he got it cut a little shorter, and he had his beard trimmed. I don’t see any injections on his face. some of the pictures are a little dark so they don’t put him in the best light, but that doesn’t mean he’s botoxed.
http://gbutler.ru/news/gerard-butler-vanity-fair-oscar-party-2012/

@ good grief @ 02/27/2012 at 4:22 am

@good grief:
If I could I would give you ten thumbs up. Very well said :)

@good grief:
Let’s be honest; you’d fu/ck him in a second if he wanted you. But alas, you know you don’t have a chance with him so you’re ripping him OUT OF BITTERNESS. He wouldn’t touch an old cow like you and you know it.

bystander @ 02/27/2012 at 4:27 am

I agree, he looks too artificial to me, in both his appearance and that put on grin.
I was wondering how gals and especially Moira was dealing with this? I followed Moira, and I believe Terez, out of Norton and found their take on him at odds with mine. They were gushing how wonderful , but I found him a bit lacklustre, although I’d never seen him before and so had no comparison. They edited a lot of him out.
I’m curious if Moira had seen any gradual change over the years, months, or any red flag incidents? She’s observed him more closely than most.
Interesting that someone mentioned gals has a blind spot on this. With WO struggling to raise many messages of support could it be an indication that his fan base is waning, apart from a few due hardship?

Another vote supporting the suggestion that he has had cosmetic work done.

I don’t think he has any intention of changing the lifestyle, with clubbing, partying and promiscuity, but just getting a grip on the over-the-top episodes that caused the facade to slip a bit on occasion recently.

I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist but I do wonder if someone had evidence of his excesses and the rehab admission was a way to render it valueless.

bystander @ 02/27/2012 at 4:31 am

* die hard fans! Predictive text and a miniscule phone, doh.

@bystander: I found your observations of the Graham Norton taping very objective and balanced. It is a bit sad to find oneself disillusioned but I feel that obssesive fandom would be a worse fate.

orange cutie @ 02/27/2012 at 4:37 am

@..:
What were bystander’s observations? I don’t think I read that thread.

@orange cutie: I am suret that Bystander can fill you but I recall her account said that he looked restless when others spoke, appeared a bit distant as if he didn’t want to be there and many of his stories didn’t come out very well. I won’t say more in case she wants to clarify.

@bystander: I just want to say that I read your “great well” message and I really liked the Oscar Wilde quote. Yours was one of the only posts that wasn’t heavily steeped in denial. It was nicely done.

Gerry’s fans support him whether he’s up or down because he’s a fallible human being just like the rest of us. We don’t turn on him and rip him to shreds when he stumbles because we ALL (well, most of us at any rate) stumble from time to time. It’s part of the human condition and he grapples with the same issues and problems that many of us do. We recognize his weaknesses and offer words of support and a little gentle chastisement instead of slings and arrows, that’s all. But I’m probably wasting my time trying to explain. Have a nice day anyway.

@Paisley: Do you seriously think drug addiction is a “stumble”?

Gerry, you’re irresistible!

@Paisley:
You are wasting your time, because they do it out of jealousy, not lack of common sense. They know they could never have him so they become bitter and sling at him. Believe me, if he wanted any of them, they’d go running. They are a bunch of bitter lonely hypocrites with no men, so they come here to get a whiff of a hot man, but since they can’t really be with him in reality they tear him to shreds. I’m not a big fan of his, but it’s so obvious to see.

orange cutie @ 02/27/2012 at 4:57 am

@..:
Thanks :)

@emily: Emily, with all due respect, I do. I had a serious drinking problem myself once and have been sober for 5 years, two months and counting. But I’m well aware that I could “stumble” again at any time and am vigilant. If it ever does happen, I’ll have to pick myself up, brush myself off and start all over again. Peace.

@Paisley: Oh stop. Lots of people suffer from substance abuse problems. It’s a life-long disease. You are an addict for life. You are sugar-coating and minimizing Gerry’s problem so you can continue to worship him. Addiction is not a stumble, by any definition of the word. You’re enabling him and you should know better.

Can'tGetEnough @ 02/27/2012 at 7:19 am

Good Morning JJer’s! I think GB looks pretty good in these pics. I’m not seeing any signs of botox. I think he looks ‘different’ because his hair is shorter and dyed, combed back and not looking as wild as it usually does. One of the WO ladies was there last night and spotted him arriving with Alan. She said she waved her Scottish flag and he waved back at her. No pics were allowed inside the party of course, so we don’t know if he was ‘partying’ it up or kinda quiet. I haven’t seen any Tweets yet either.
Have a great day!

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 7:23 am

@wtf is wrong with Oh dear

 I am more than happy for you to ask ”WTF is wrong with Oh dear ?” Because I am going to tell WTF is wrong.

When I initially read GB had gone into rehab I genuinely thought – even though I saw it coming from the reports of his lifestyle -what a real shame. Good for him,  trying to sort himself out.  But then the PR machine started to roll into action and it’s all turned really  shallow and shoddy.

Let me make this clear, I have absolutely no  doubt that GB does have a drug problem, I also have absolutely no problem with him not taking his drug problem seriously, which he obviously does not.   If he did,  he would have been  in rehab for a h*ell of a  lot longer than two weeks.  There  would be  little or no press photos of him swanning around LA. And he  wouldn’t be suited up running around  Hollywood in a desparate bid not to miss out on any of the  parties on Oscar night

What I have a massive,  massive  problem with, is GB and his management using this issue of  drugs and rehab as form of emotional PR manipulation to get  even more  self promotion and ultimately even  more cash.  
As I  said before,  I know people who have been through the  trauma of addiction, and their families would have  given their eye teeth to have the resourses GB  has at his fingertips to get their family members treatment. 

So when I see someone like him  using rehab to essentially  promote he’s career, by  garnering sympathic cash friendly publicity.

 Yes I am going kick off. I going to kick off big  time – because it’s totally and completely out of order.

  

 

 

(sigh) I can see that I am indeed wasting my time. Do not presume to preach to me in a condescending, righteous manner unless you’ve walked in the same shoes as somebody with similar issues. If you do speak from experience and have never STUMBLED, more power to you. Give yourself a self-impressed pat on the back. Later…

Spring back elastic heart.
~Neil Finn
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He’s got someone who’s going to help see him through it.
~K

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 7:41 am

And if his fan sites aren’t talking about his rehab stunt ( oops stint) another reason could be that deep down they know his motivation for going into BF was not completely  genuine. 

Something very odd about a brief rehab stay and then straight into Oscar parties strategy. Surely even the dedicated supporters can see that something doesn’t ring true about all this.

@..:
Totally agree. Fresh out of rehab and straight to parties, smiling and mingling like nothing was ever wrong in the first place. Fishy.

My two cents? He looks GREAT. And I prefer him slender, not chunky. I don’t think he’s had plastic surgery; his slimmer face is due to his weight loss. But I DO think he botoxes on a very regular basis. I can always tell when it’s fresh. He smiles, laughs and gestures….and his eyebrows stay low and don’t move.

It’s not a big deal. In showbiz, anyone over 35 gets it done. Heck, I’VE had it done. And to the poster who posted the pic of him showing that he still has forehead lines….botox doesn’t erase all lines, if they are deep. They become more shallow and less noticable….but they’ll still be there a little bit.

Gerry looking so hot…

colormeskeptical @ 02/27/2012 at 9:14 am

@bystander: I don’t think his fan base is waning. Just some fans even those that frequent Gerry fan sites find that kind of thing silly, like going to conventions and following him to every single premiere and TV show. You can be a fan but keep a level of objective detachment and the majority do. He is after all just an actor not a god. The hardcore have always been a small but visible and vocal group.

colormeskeptical @ 02/27/2012 at 9:23 am

@Toronto: I believe he botoxes before big events and when he is making a movie, I think he doesn’t overdo it like he once did, one just needs a dermatologist with the right touch, like whoever does Meryl Streep and many others, but not Nicole Kidman or Marcia Cross. That’s overkill.

@..:

*applause* Well said. This place is becoming very frightening. I’m out of here. xx

He didn’t shave his neck again… why bother dressing up without taking 5 minutes to shave his neck… come on Butler…
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I have to agree with oy, not liking the pants on this. He does look good but what a shame that the party is more important than his quest for sobriety. *shaking head*
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@me:
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A good facial can do that. I don’t see any sign of nip tuck from these piccies…

beaupigeon @ 02/27/2012 at 9:41 am

@krista:
So true !
LOL
Rehad goes with botox !!

@good grief:
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ITAWY. *standing and applauding* BTW you should take a stroll over the WO like we did last night and read their letters of support. Not only will Butler be fighting his addiction issues but after reading those “letters” he will be fighting bulimia also.
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BTW thanks to all the fun girlies for a helluva Oscar party. I have never laughed as hard or enjoyed virtual shenanigans so much. ♥

@Please:
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Says an old heifer herself…

@bystander:
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Moira will always see him as her ideal man. She thought he looked great and having fun according to her tweets at the time of this photo…
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http://cdn.buzznet.com/media-cdn/jj1/headlines/2011/08/gerard-butler-mls-game.jpg
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So don’t expect any realistic view from her.
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Not surprised at all at the lack of letters of support on WO. Their buzz word is “unconditional” which is a keyword for enabling. Tough love is what he needs and they just can’t grasp that. I wonder what their letters of support will mean when he is a on a slab in a morgue somewhere due to an overdose. I mean seriously the dude has already been taken by ambulance for “over indulging” in London once. But alas their “unconditional” blindness can’t see clearly what is in front of their faces IMO.
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Butler isn’t taking his sobriety seriously so why should we???

@Paisley:
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Normally I don’t comment on your posts, but I don’t agree with you. Addiction isn’t a “stumble” and that is extremely naive on your part. A thought process like that is definitely not an effort to support sobriety IMO. But I still adore you…
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@Please:
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You really need to grow up. A difference of opinion is not jealousy. I believe your desire to protect Gerry is making you irrational. What are you 12???

WTF is wrong with Oh Dear @ 02/27/2012 at 10:12 am

@Oh dear 1: “What I have a massive, massive problem with, is GB and his management using this issue of drugs and rehab as form of emotional PR manipulation to get even more self promotion and ultimately even more cash. ”
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But how do you know that’s what he’s doing? This seems to be a bunch of conjecture by a bunch of people who spend their time following every tweet, blog post, tabloid report, and such about Gerard Butler. People who do that with regard to an actor don’t have a healthy perspective when it comes to him in the first place, and nor do people who believe that every tweet about him and every tabloid report about any celebrity is true.
I could get on twitter right now and say that I saw Gerard Butler walking down Santa Monica Blvd. carrying something that looked like a bottle in a brown bag or trying to hide something in a jacket pocket, and the way that I’m reading people’s comments here, some would start posting “a-HA! I was right about him!” using my false tweet as proof. How crazy is that?
It’s one thing when the question is whether he’s dating so-and-so. It’s a whole other when it’s addiction and rehab. It is a very serious subject. There’s a huge stigma attached to rehab and a lot of people refuse to go exactly because they’re afraid of what people will assume to be true about them for going. People like you perpetuate that stigma.
And for what? Why? Who is Gerard Butler to you that you should be so upset and “kick off big time” over supposition? Are you just engaging in activism? Over Gerard Butler, his substance abuse issues, and what you think it all means? Really?
Laugh at him because you think the stories of his social life are funny. Criticize his acting. Say you don’t understand why people think he’s hot. That’s all surface level stuff. But “kicking off big time” against him on a moral level about things you can’t even be certain are true? Don’t you think you’re taking him way too seriously and what he does too personally?
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Even if you are proved 100% right, what would you think you’ve accomplished? “a-HA! I was right about Gerard Butler”? If you went around saying that offline to people on the street with all the righteous vigor that you’re arguing about him online, what do you think the reaction would be? Do you think they would pat you on the back or think you’re a bit mental? Step back and get your bearings.

@Manny: OMG, when was that pic taken? He looks like s/hit to be honest.

@Paisley:
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You know Paisley Gerry isn’t in the position of stumbling because he hasn’t approached correcting his problem until now. This isn’t a stumble in his sobriety because he hasn’t embraced or acknowledged sobriety until now. That is the rub in your reasoning for me.
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@Oh dear 1:
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I’m glad you reposted your post. You put so articulately what I’m thinking. What is surprising to me is his diehard fans reaction. If I was them I would be p!ssed. If he can be deceitful in claiming to be sober all these years, is he lying about how he feels about them? Also making light of rehab and addiction is insulting to those that indeed suffer and struggle with it on a daily basis.
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I hate to be the Dora Downer but what can we believe that comes out of his mouth? He went to “rehab” and the next day is seen and photographed in Blow Central, Malibu. Then he goes to a HW party that night and the next night… He is all better is a crock of sh!t or his PR team is not being honest what he is being treated for. Did they throw out the painkiller facade because he was in for sex addiction? What can we believe???

@Manny. I want to se “WO” , what is the abbreviation for WO ? Do you have a link :-)

@Emma:
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That was last year when he dropped a bunch of weight in no time at all. At the time I wrote that I was worried he was sick. And yes I was being naive believing his sober lifestyle to be real…

@me:
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http://weiner1proboardscom.proboards.com/index.cgi
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I have to laugh that “weiner” is part of their web address… Awwww Dianne…

WTF?! He was at the parties?! Geez. Would it have killed him to miss them ONE single year? Was he afraid that he was going to miss some hot hookups or what? I can’t *believe* this guy. He just announced that he was leaving REHAB for goodness’ sake. Why announce it in the first place at all? Does GB and his team realize that it looks a wee bit weird that he’s back on the party scene (I don’t care that it’s the Oscars, it’s still a party) after such an announcement? Go back to mum in Scotland for a while instead. :(

A man of warmth and wisdom.
~K

@Manny: @Paisley:

I think what constitutes a stumble is all relative to your own life experiences. What constitutes a stumble to some might be a massive thing for others. I think if you are a recovering addict or you have any other kind of compulsive behaviours, falling off the wagon once might be considered a stumble, if you only fall off the wagon once, it’s pretty good going.
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I’ve never had a substance abuse issue, I’ve had family members that have but I seIf h*rmed, for about 15 years. I think if every time I’d fallen back into a h*rming pattern people treated it like a massive thing, I think it would have me worse, I would have seen it as massive failure on my part, it would have made me feel sh*t about myself, which is when I reach for the razors, It would have been a very viscous circle, but because it was treated like a ‘stumble’ it made me realise I could get over it.
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Everyone is going to have a different opinion of this situation but why people need to state their opinion and then qualify it by saying anyone that disagrees with them is in denial or jealous or calling them delusional is pointless and childish. Is it not possible that people can just see things from a different perspective? I think the worse people on here though are the ones that seem to be revelling in this and take pleasure in mocking those that are supporting GB, even if some of that support is somewhat naive.
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As for the situation with GB I don’t know what his addiction issues are, that’s irrelevant to me and none of my business, I don’t know what path his rehab is taking, I’d like to think he is continuing his recovery with some form of out patient treatment but attending Oscar parties? Bad move, both from a health and PR perspective.

Super happy to see Gerry out and about . He looks Health and rested and Beautiful .

Che bello!

@ Manny 

Thank you.  I hope you had a great  Oscars do last night.

@wtf is wrong with Oh dear
 
oh my day woman. You have totally miss the point – big time. My perspective is completely on point. Yours… Well.   Once again this is an entertainment news website where people pass comment -good,  bad or indifferent about people who are crave  for attention and want to be paid ridiculous amounts of money for it.  ( HW stars).  Lord knows, I understand  there is stigma to rehab, but according to your perspective that makes it more or less ok  for Butler and his management to trivialise rehab to  get more cash. All righty then. You are entitled to your opinion. If the man ends up in a drug addled stupor choking on his own vomit that’s  his prerogative, and of course if I feel like it I will  pass comment on it on  this  ENTERTAINMENT NEWS WEBSITE.   Can you grasp the concept now.

Not just a river @ 02/27/2012 at 11:04 am

I have been dumbfounded by the level of denial on these recent threads. Every post that looks realistically at the evidence, the timeline, and what is basically out there for all to see, is getting persistently thumbed down. The loving phannies are rushing to the defense of their little boy against the mean old meannies. Can you not see that you have been had? Can you possibly be so blind to his decline the last couple of years? He is an addict. He has never denied his addictive personality. What he did, was position himself as a reformed drinker. And we all took that to mean he was sober. But he is not. Look up the symptoms of cocaine use. There it is. We may never know what or who pushed him into a brief rehab stint, but I’m sure this story will continue to play out. He can be shined up for the red carpet, but under the designer duds and the spray tan he is in real trouble, and trying to silence those that see it does him no good.

Looks like Daniel bought back his soul from the Devil itself.
~K

@WTF is wrong with Oh Dear: “Even if you are proved 100% right, what would you think you’ve accomplished? “a-HA! I was right about Gerard Butler”? If you went around saying that offline to people on the street with all the righteous vigor that you’re arguing about him online, what do you think the reaction would be? Do you think they would pat you on the back or think you’re a bit mental? Step back and get your bearings.”
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lol Seriously! Righteously “kicking off” about Gerard Butler? About GERARD BUTLER? Ha! There are kids in shelters that really need help, but she’s going to save the world from the immoral Gerard Butler. What a freak.
@niknoks: ” I don’t know what path his rehab is taking, ”
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Why are people assuming there’s only one way to do rehab and he’s doing it the wrong way? One of my parents had surgery after long term pain for an injury and was on painkillers for a long time. When she starting healing well from the surgery and needed to get off the painkillers she found it hard, so she went to rehab for a couple of weeks to combine continued physical therapy with winding down drug intake. She was then able to go home and work with a therapist in her house. If Gerard Butler’s issues are more physical than psychological, couldn’t he be doing the same type of thing? He may have more serious issues, I don’t know, just saying it’s possible and it’s a bit nutty for people to assume they know what’s up.
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Who cares really. It’s his business. What’s our business is whether he’s getting the therapy he needs to stop doing sucky movies like the Booty Hunter.

Angelina's Right Leg @ 02/27/2012 at 11:22 am

Well, he looks good but it would have been better if he had stayed at home this year.
Can’t believe it’s already a year since the Selita Ebanks rumors. Time flies.

@ Right?

If you want really want to comment about about kids in shelters on an ents website go right ahead, but I suggest you might perhaps get more incisive and indepth comments on relevant charity or a current affairs websites. Idiot.

Feel Gerry helped the clinic help him because he wanted a fresh start. Never underestimate this man’s will-power or self-control. In the end, while it was the incorrect way, the stimulating enhancement was for to counter the dulling created by the painkillers! Not making excuses as their are better solutions.
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Also feel the ‘crew’ and ‘extras’ on the set created an party atmosphere that enabled him and he let it. The power of the positive no is still a work in progress! “Please be gentle I’m still learning.” That said, something triggered this check-in. He did it for someone, himself firstly. But another (and others) as well.
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But anyone with two eyes can see this man clearly is facing the right direction… forward. I have faith in him. Always have, but have even more now!
~K

@Manny:
“He didn’t shave his neck again… why bother dressing up without taking 5 minutes to shave his neck… come on Butler…”
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Read by men: Change! You are not good enough as is. Change, change, change.
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Question. Do you do this to your “husband”? I rather doubt it. Gerry’s just a whipping post for all you cannot say or do outside of this place. You bully nearly everyone in here, why? Not a real question, I know why. You’re bullied or were out there. Never quite enough are you? Sad life yours.
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As for what I see here? I see a man eager to get on with his life out to show everyone what some self-TLC (and the help of BFC) can do, work wonders! Now, for him to get the hell out of LA before the Devil itself can drag him back in its pit of self-sabotaging self-destruction!
~K
who know it takes a long time to combat 18 years of negative thinking but if anyone can do it (again) he can!

My tap-dancer won man, I’m SO happy! It gives me new faith in the foreign press too. Now, if only Gerry could take up tap-dancing! Think it would be a great mood-elevator and good for that lower-back as well! But I’m not holding my breath feeling he’s a good idea of what’ll work best for him!
~K

The Noise In The Walls @ 02/27/2012 at 12:14 pm

One Word:..

WOW!! He looks Fabulous!!

After finding out he’s a cokehead I’ve lost all respect for him. He’s just another Hollywood druggie for me now. The pain killer addiction I can understand. You’re in pain, you take a pill, you need more and voila you’re addicted. It’s a whole other thing with the cocaine addiction. Noone forced him to start with that. He didn’t need it for pain relief. He just wanted to get high, probably together with that douchebag Ronnie Madra, Jamison Ernest and all of their gf’s and friends in the fashion world. I’m so over this guy. Not a fan anymore.

Wouldn’t call showing up at an after Oscar party being back on the ‘party scene’! Think he’s a bit more of a planner than we realize. Saw the issue he was having and had the vision to plan for it. Feel he knows his limitations well so made his appearance.
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No one, that I know of here, knows how long he stayed or what he did. Besides that had to be a great vibe especially if Jean showed up! I hope he got to meet him and shake his hand. I do.
~K

malibumillie @ 02/27/2012 at 12:16 pm

Just saw a tweet that Gerard should be the poster boy for Rehab because he looked so good last night, groan. I will admit he scrubbed very well though I agree with Manny, shave that neck but he doesn’t shave that neck for vanity reasons, it hides some flaws, just get the chin lipo baby, you look hotter with the neck shaved..

But a lot of those happy shiny people at Oscar night are hiding addictions so don’t be fooled. Hollywood has always been about illusion.

The camera adds at least 10 pounds we are told so if Angelina Jolie’s arms looked like sticks on TV I can only imagine what they looked like up close. Her shoulder bones looked like the were going to pop out, even with her strategically placed hair.

@Oh dear 1: “If you want really want to comment about about kids in shelters on an ents website go right ahead, but I suggest you might perhaps get more incisive and indepth comments on relevant charity or a current affairs websites. Idiot.”
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LMAO! I don’t want to comment about kids in shelters. Your defensiveness shows that you know the point that I was making. That there are things in the world that are worth having a “massive, massive problem” with and to get your panties in a twist about – I’m sorry – “kick off, kick off big time” about. Gerard freakin’ Butler?!? Conspiracy theories about his rehab treatment?!? LOL!! Well thank God we have you to save us from Gerard Butler’s diabolical plots. He might use his evil powers to hold the world hostage someday!!

Not to mention Chloe. I bet they did coke together too.

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 12:20 pm

@good grief:

There’s a big difference between an enabler and a supporter. An enabler would tell someone that the bad thing they are doing is OK and keep doing it and continue to help them do it.
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A supporter doesn’t think the bad thing is OK but that the person is OK and they’ll see them through it.
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Then there are the ones like you who are the worst. You latch on to every bad thing about a person and rub it in their faces. Do you think that help the situation? That’s the worst thing you can do for someone. If you had a friend or a child that did something bad or became addicted to something would you brow beat them about it and tell them they are damaged goods? That exaserbates the problem even worse.
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Like I’ve said before, I hope some of you don’t have kids.
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You need to get your priorities straight around here and stop hating because that’s all it is. You are just a hateful person and if you don’t have something or someone to hate on, you’re not fulfilled. It’s sad really.
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For those of you that are obsessed with Butler and don’t know how to handle wanting him 24/7 and knowing you can’t ever, get a grip on reality! His “phannies” have!

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@Manny:
“I hate to be the Dora Downer”
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I about peed my pants laughing at this statement! You effing LIVE for it !

Gossipgirl @ 02/27/2012 at 12:22 pm

Seriously, The Butler really looks good here. He has been looking like crap for months. He seems to be doing better and good for him!

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 12:24 pm

@Mimi:

You sure know a lot about his personal friends and life for someone who has lost all respect for him. But keep up the lust and the obsession you have for him locked safely back in the closet. We understand why you have to slag him even if you don’t.

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 12:27 pm

It is pointless to argue with some people. In fact, that’s probably the only reason they’re running on about this. It’s a waste of life. Time to move on and allow people to heal and let the negative people wallow in their hate.

@lolita………. thanks for your reply, thinking of you, nice to know we can mind- meld now and then…………..

one last thing…..

…..i fail to see why i as a fan, got gerry hooked on drugs in the first place and i still his fan, am now enabling him…….wtf?

gerry is responsible for his choices and has to live with the consequences……he alone…

am i happy he is at parties?….no
do i wish he spent more time away from the temptations of hollyweird?….yes
am i going to stop being a fan?….no
do i wish those that are not so perfect themselves would quit casting stones outta their glass houses…..yes!

buggin out till the next thread…..

Hollywood Gossiper @ 02/27/2012 at 12:41 pm

@Gossipgirl: I would invite you to check out the photos from TIFF 2011 when Gerry was very thin, too thin. He looked great at the premieres, on the red carpet, but then check out the photos they took from the press conferences, or take a look at the official portraits taken for TIFF. The latter are scary.

These been seen yet? I don’t think he could look any better if he tried!
http://gbutler.ru/news/gerard-butler-vanity-fair-oscar-party-2012/
~K

LMAO I see WO/Dianne is p!ssed at me again. When are you going to start posting as Sweet again Dianne???
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@niknoks:
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You’re right niknoks, we don’t know what kind of rehab he entered Betty Ford to receive. We do know he spent less than the recommended time for any painkiller/cocaine addiction treatment as revealed by his PR team rehab timing listed on BF’s website. But since we are learning, with the shovel smacking us all up the side of the head, is that they (Butler and his PR team) will say whatever whether it is truth or fiction.
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Yippee he is clean and sober they are shoving down our throats now. Because the public can add and read we know he was in rehab for less than 2 weeks and was seen marching proudly back into the addictive world he says he is trying to recover from. On a simple scale of 1 – 10 it equals a 15 on the bullsh!t scale IMO.
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I know you understand the addictive patterns and steps to sobriety. From a professional standpoint this has got to look suspect to you too. It really is a shame IF there is indeed an underlying problem.
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I’m of the same thought as Oh Dear… if he is playing at this it is mocking such an important issue and treatment. A little uncool IMO…

@Hollywood Gossiper:
Would it hurt too much to focus on now? Now is all that matters. If he wants to stay clean, he will… and that’s not just by showering! Feel he knows what he has to do… let’s give him the benefit of the doubt he will.
~K
who says good riddance to anyone who finds slipping into the Hollywood pit while living and working out there farewell because you’re so perfect aren’t you? No, no you’re not. You’re disappointed and held him too high on a pedestal wearing rose-colored glasses feeling proud he came out about it before it took too much more of a toll on that 24K heart the size of Texas!

Birds of a feather flock together Manny! That means you and Oh Dear along with several down-hearten others here and everywhere! Have a nice day sour puss… I bet you just can’t stand how good he looks! Little to find fault with here, isn’t there!??
~K

@GFW:
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This from a woman pledging unconditional love to a stranger…
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If my hubby was going to be photographed on a red carpet wearing a tux you sure as sh!t can believe I would make sure he shaved his neck. :)
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@GFW:
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Yes, let’s just gloss over the elephant in the room so GFW can feel better…
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I see the Gerry mommies are out in full force this morning. My question is why aren’t you all over at WO writing your letters of support???

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 1:12 pm

Let  me get this right. You honestly think  that  I don’t know,  repeating  your inane and stupid quote: 

That there are things in the world that are worth having a “massive, massive problem with and to get your panties in a twist about – I’m sorry – “kick off, kick off big time” about. 

Do you really honestly think that?   The idiocy of  your comment make me  laugh, because you have absolutely no idea idea what I do for a living. 

I was being  defensive because you called me a name, and call me old fashioned but I get like that when people throw personal insults at me. 

So for you let me make this clear in the context of this website – context being the operative word here –  and only in this context- yes I have a   “massive, massive problem” and I will   “kick off and kick off big time”, about GB  essentially  using rehab to promote his  career, by garnering sympathic cash friendly publicity.  You tw!t

Get Right @ 02/27/2012 at 1:14 pm

@Manny: “I see the Gerry mommies are out in full force this morning.”
I’m not a board mommy but I’ve thumbed some posts down. I think Gerry’s wasted a promising talent so far, that his clubbing with kids in their 20s is cheesy, and I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of what’s reported about him is true (only a crazy person would think it’s all true – they ARE tabloids). But even I think trying to spread stories that he’s using a rehab story for profit is low, and piecing together tweets and other hearsay to try to put together a forensic case to prove it is really kinda creepy. It’s a level of attention to an actor and concern about what he does that is borderline stalkerish.

@Oh dear 1: “Let me get this right. You honestly think that I don’t know, repeating your inane and stupid quote:
That there are things in the world that are worth having a “massive, massive problem with and to get your panties in a twist about – I’m sorry – “kick off, kick off big time” about.
Do you really honestly think that? The idiocy of your comment make me laugh, because you have absolutely no idea idea what I do for a living.
I was being defensive because you called me a name, and call me old fashioned but I get like that when people throw personal insults at me.
So for you let me make this clear in the context of this website – context being the operative word here – and only in this context- yes I have a “massive, massive problem” and I will “kick off and kick off big time”, about GB essentially using rehab to promote his career, by garnering sympathic cash friendly publicity. You tw!t”
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LOL I didn’t call you old fashioned. I called you a freak. And judging from the nerve I’ve obviously struck, I think I hit the freak nail right on the head!
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Don’t lose your cool entirely though. Gerard Butler must be conspiring about pulling the wool over all of our heads somewhere about something. We need you to keep that ever watchful eye out for him and tell us what that is, or else we may all be DOOMED!!
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Unless he kills us with another sh!t.e romcom first.

angelsrock @ 02/27/2012 at 1:38 pm

Manny, you seem to have woken on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Why all the negativity? You have stated your opinion. Of course others will disagree and have thier own take on this. None of us here is Gerry Butler or a close friend or relative. We have no idea the nitty gritty details of Gerry’s last few weeks and frankly I don’t need or want to know. He is simply an actor/celebrity that I find lovely. He has obstacles in his life as do we all. No one’s life is perfect. No one!!! He lives in a fishbowl. I would not want that!! Everyone sees things differently as they watch through the glass of his fishbowl. Sometimes that little Gerry fish just wants to hide behind some rocks away from the stares and glares of the fans and the critics.

@Get Right:
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I have never said he was using his rehab for profit that was Oh Dear. My point is he and his people are saying whatever suits them, whether truth or not. Please keep your posters straight. :)
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The point I agree to with Oh Dear is that IF he is using this rehab for PR, shame on him for mocking those have real problems and need real help by belittling the situation.

@Right?:
Don’t waste your energy, she’s a board bully. She’s not “single” and is “happily married” (yet is here more than most single women… so go figure). It’s turned into her sport, her hobby. That and she knows she can never ever have a chance with him so tries to everyone to “see the light” that Gerry’s not worth anyone’s devotion! It’s classic sour grapes.
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AND that he might have done this so he doesn’t spin out and loose anyone he truly cares for? The possibility something snapped inside of him that sent him, walking or being drug, into the BFC because of that!
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Now out and showing himself she can’t stand his looking so good! Why? She can’t have him. Plus maybe their could be a possibility some one or someone here could! But the only thing certain is it will never be her.
~K

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 1:58 pm

@ Right?

What?!!! Oh dear. (sigh) You know what, call me whatever you like, go right ahead. For a moment there I mistakenly credited you with a modicum of intelligence. I apologise I was completely incorrect. You’re far too immature to bother conversing with. Just carrying on with your juvenile comments, knock yourself out.

@Can’tGetEnough:
Great press for him! See his likability and respect factors are high out there.
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Gerry is respected more for this than had he ignored it, trust me. Had he let it go and lied more to others, as well as to himself, he’d lose more than he could afford: respect. Respect from friends, family and fans.
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If anything, his true die-hard supporters will spiritually gather around him sending up prayers he can keep clean so he can get to where he wants, a better life building that better world around him with his talents, skill and butts in seats box-office demands! Coriolanus was major! Seeing him with Jessica was great!
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And he’s filled out! A few healthy fiber-filled flax-seed shakes and he’s not so gaunt as the last weeks reflect!!
~K

@GFW:

It will never be you either

Get Right @ 02/27/2012 at 2:10 pm

@Manny: “Please keep your posters straight. :)”
I was responding to your comment about the board mommies being out in force and explaining why I’ve thumbed some posts down generally, not yours specifically, though I have thumbed down some of yours. It’s not just board mommies and big fans. I may not think Gerry puts out a public image of a dignified gentleman, but that doesn’t mean it’s normal to keep a record of everything that’s ever been said about him by anyone and try to build cases against him on serious topics like substance abuse and rehab because of assumptions about who and how he is. That is just as obsessive as the people who collect everything that’s said about him because they’re irrationally in love with who they think he is. It’s crazy. The word “denial” keeps coming up. I think that goes both ways. There sure are fans who are in denial about what Gerry does, but there are some other people posting here about him negatively that are very obviously in denial about their own obsession with him. This isn’t normal. A

@angelsrock:
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Morning Angel… Not up on the wrong side of the bed at all. Trying to have an honest conversation of opinions.
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I guess I’m missing the gist of your comment and why it was launched at me. Why is it negative to question this situation? Why is it negative to share an opinion that apparently others don’t like? Why if things don’t add up is it wrong to say ‘what is going on here?’???
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Even something as inane as should he have shaved his neck seems to be considered tabou to talk about on here today which I find ridiculous…

@angelsrock:
“Manny, you seem to have woken on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Why all the negativity? You have stated your opinion. Of course others will disagree and have thier own take on this. None of us here is Gerry Butler or a close friend or relative. We have no idea the nitty gritty details of Gerry’s last few weeks and frankly I don’t need or want to know. He is simply an actor/celebrity that I find lovely. He has obstacles in his life as do we all. No one’s life is perfect. No one!!! He lives in a fishbowl. I would not want that!! Everyone sees things differently as they watch through the glass of his fishbowl. Sometimes that little Gerry fish just wants to hide behind some rocks away from the stares and glares of the fans and the critics.”
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Great post! But she demands perfection. He has personally let her down. She’s like gretchenpc at IMDb when she posted. Same voice exactly. You’d think it was her but it isn’t! I think it’s just for attention… and her love of seeing her own words published instantly? LOL Feel she’s no voice anywhere else?
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As for Gerry? He needs to matter to someone more than for who and what he is. More than just a sex object. And chances are slim in that ‘circle of influence’ and think he’s realized it more last year than ever before.
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He looks great yet we still see that hint of sadness behind his, the color of the sand and the sea, that speak to unspoken longings for acceptance, companionship, and belonging to someone… a woman.
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Oh and word is by way of his Howard Stern interview, his fish isn’t little! But I get it! It appears not being the life of the party for a spell was a good thing!
~K

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 2:22 pm

@ GFW

Oh Please. (ROLL EYES) As I am sure you can imagine, I am deeply deeply hurt with a comment like that coming from someone like you. As I write this, the tears are welling up. How insightful of you to know that I am heartbroken because GB never ever, ever, ever, ever made inappropriate advances towards me. And oh how that cut me so to the quick. Gosh, I can’t believe how you know so much about me.( SNIFF -DEEP DEEP DEEP SIGH)

@Get help:
Have a nice day. :o)
~K

@Oh dear 1:
Have a nice day. :o)
~K
PS, feelin’ you wish he would have made any kind of advance at you so had you have had that chance and maybe you did, and he didn’t, my guess is someone like you would turn into someone like you… just a hunch

From a lurker @ 02/27/2012 at 2:33 pm

I’m not up to this board’s speed to post here but I thumb comments up and down based on how I see them and this is serious enough that I think I should say why. Addiction is a very serious issue. I’ve had a lot of personal experience with it. I’ve not been the addict but many of my close relationships with family and friends have been plagued by it. I’m offended by people accusing Gerry Butler of using a rehab story for publicity without absolute proof that what they’re saying is true. People speculating and making assumptions about why people go to rehab is exactly why some people who really need to go to rehab don’t. I think if someone in need of help were reading the comments on this thread, they’d be discouraged from seeking it. On the other hand, I think it really helps some people when they see celebrities admit they have a problem and that they made the choice to get help, and then see them turn up places afterwords looking healthy and well. It helps counter the stigma and makes people who need help realize that needing help doesn’t necessarily mean they’re weak. Even if there’s more to Gerry’s story than the eye can see, it doesn’t serve anyone to guess about it and tear it down with empty theories. So that’s why I thumbed posts down. I think some of the righteous indignation of some of the posters accusing Gerry of exploitation without any proof is a load of BS. They’re being selfish, which I guess is fine, but admit it. Don’t claim to be standing up for those struggling with addiction when all you’re doing is promoting the stigma and trying to kill off the potential benefits of this story because of some twisted joy you take in wanting Gerry to look bad.

dargabriel @ 02/27/2012 at 2:34 pm

@GFW: its quite clear to see GFW you really do not have a life, very sad you’re always on here. Maybe you should try and date, it might be best. I will pray for your lonely existance to be full and vibrant. Just checking in. Take good care.

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 2:37 pm

GFW

In your head you are spot on. That’s exactly what happened. I am heartbroken GFW. Absolutely heartbroken. ( WISTFUL SIGH) Again your insightfullness astounds me.x

@Get Right:
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So are you speaking generally to the board again or to me?
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@GFW:
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GFW you don’t know me at all. I’m not demanding perfection, that’s your department, I was making an observation. Once again for you in the short bus… Why when you are going to all the trouble to be fitted and styled for a tux, get your hair dyed and coiffed, makeup applied, why not take 5 and shave the neck??? Simple question with no underlying anything. I’m not the only that mentioned it but yet you seem to feel it is me you have to make an issue out of it.

@Mimi:
Who is Chloe???

@From a lurker:
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I find your theory flawed.
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Hypothetically… If an addict was watching this whole thing with Butler what would he perceive? Gerry didn’t admit he needed help until TMZ reported he was in rehab. So unless the addict watching was a celebrity no one would care or know. Gerry’s PR admitted in a statement that he had sought treatment for the past three weeks for painkillers/cocaine abuse at the Betty Ford Center and was now healthy. So now the addict looks at that and thinks, three weeks, I can do that and be well enough to attend parties where drug abuse occurs regularly because after 3 weeks Gerry Butler was healthy and cured.
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Isn’t that a shame? When even the lowly of health care professionals know that it is not a complete rehab and the last thing an addict should do 24 hours out of rehab is go back to the places and people you associated with prior to rehab, how can you say that is a good example? That is perpetuating a myth.
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Rehab for Butler’s “confirmed” ailments would mean a detox period lasting weeks to a month easily. Three weeks and he is cured of his addiction is not remotely realistic and does addicts who look to that as an example a great disservice. Rehab isn’t just 3 weeks. If the folks in your life are rehabbing for three weeks or less, how many times are they going back to rehab? Because one goes with the other.
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Mind you I have never said he was doing this profit but I believe that he is minimizing the serious of the disease and the steps to sobriety by his example and it does make me suspect that he went and dried out not rehabbed.

@Manny:

GB’s PR never confirmed how long he was in rehab, nor did they confirm what he was in for.

Manny I find your heifer and short bus comments today offensive, please discuss away, but is it necessary to offend others?

Not all of Butler’s fans are obese and special needs.

I think its unkind and hurtful. Perhaps your thumbs is not so much on what you are saying but how you are saying it?

@Can’tGetEnough:
http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-02-27/gerard-butler-attends-vanity-fair-oscar-party-after-rehab-photos/
according to this articel he
“was spotted hanging out with funnyman Jason Bateman most of the night.”
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Hardly the drugged out of his mind, crazy partier they all want to turn him into.
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And, TMZ had backed away from the coke issue. Hasn’t mentioned it again. Is it possible TMZ embelished the rehab with the coke issue?

From a lurker @ 02/27/2012 at 3:24 pm

@Manny: ” If an addict was watching this whole thing with Butler what would he perceive? Gerry didn’t admit he needed help until TMZ reported he was in rehab. So unless the addict watching was a celebrity no one would care or know. Gerry’s PR admitted in a statement that he had sought treatment for the past three weeks for painkillers/cocaine abuse at the Betty Ford Center and was now healthy. So now the addict looks at that and thinks, three weeks, I can do that and be well enough to attend parties where drug abuse occurs regularly because after 3 weeks Gerry Butler was healthy and cured.
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Isn’t that a shame? When even the lowly of health care professionals know that it is not a complete rehab and the last thing an addict should do 24 hours out of rehab is go back to the places and people you associated with prior to rehab, how can you say that is a good example? That is perpetuating a myth.”
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You can think whatever you like about my theory. I believe that the true myth here is that you know the first thing about Gerry Butler’s substance abuse issues, the course of treatment that he sought, the course of treatment that his condition required, and why he came forward about it. I don’t know anything about it myself. All I know is what his representative has stated, and I would not presume to be more informed or more qualified to assess his condition and state his motives, and it does not help anyone else for others to do so.
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You’re just taking speculation, stating it as truth, and posting like an armchair psychologist who has evaluated him and is privy to what has transpired when you have not and are not. That’s fine if that’s your idea of fun. But don’t claim that your horse hockey is intended to support those struggling with addiction. Addiction is a hard reality. Your rootless theories, speculation, and guesses about a man you don’t know and a situation that you’re not close to does nothing to support the people dealing with those hard realities for all the reasons that I said.

@Stormyweather:
“You sure know a lot about his personal friends and life for someone who has lost all respect for him. But keep up the lust and the obsession you have for him locked safely back in the closet. We understand why you have to slag him even if you don’t.”
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She’d do him in a heartbeat if she could. Because she can’t have him she acts like this. It’s so obvious that these are angry jealous beetches in heat.

The Noise In The Walls @ 02/27/2012 at 3:35 pm

I agree #121 The Lurker..
Welcome to the madness…:)

justsayin'too @ 02/27/2012 at 3:36 pm

I still believe something fish is going on with the rehab story, but I am glad to see him looking better than he has recently. Of course, he cleans up well when he wants to and you can see he was airbrushed to the max which makes him look like he had a nip/tuck, but I don’t think he did anything to his face other than possible botox. I wish him well in his continues sobriety, but still feel he needs to get away from the Hollywood party lifestyle.

@ Emma – comment #57

So nice to see there are more people with the same nickname… :-)

I had a few rough nights these past few days – meditating on the immortality of the soul and such – but I do not remember waking up, sitting at my computer and writing such a comment. I try to keep my opinions on how people look to myself. :-)

On a different thread, I was noticing how Betty Ford treatments cost about as much as a small apartment in my part of the world – they’re effective, too, since GB is out there running (pain’s gone, I suppose!). Miraculous! :-)

He was looking good at whatever those parties were, don’t know what to say about the fact he is eating alone… I prefer it that way, especially when I want to celebrate something important to me.

Hope y’all have a great day, evening, night or morning, depending on where you are on this beautiful Earth!

Em

http://gbutler.ru/news/gerard-butler-vanity-fair-oscar-party-2012/
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The suit he wore last night had to be one of the best tuxes he ever wore. I didn’t like the GGA tux, but the one from last night was impeccable, and his look was impeccable as well.
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@Toronto – sorry I don’t think he botoxed. He might have some light makeup on so the pictures on the red carpet will look good. All the male stars get a touch up.

I second that @ 02/27/2012 at 3:42 pm

@GFW:
“Birds of a feather flock together Manny! That means you and Oh Dear along with several down-hearten others here and everywhere! Have a nice day sour puss… I bet you just can’t stand how good he looks! Little to find fault with here, isn’t there!??”
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Both of them are crazy.

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 3:44 pm

@ Get Right 

I made the comment  - So when I see someone like GB using rehab to essentially  promote his  career, by  garnering sympathic  publicity.

  NOT MANNY. 

@ Lurker

I take your point.

How many famous people do you  know, who have admitted to  having substance abuse issues and are taking their problem seriously: 

Go into rehab for drug abuse for a cursory few weeks

Let their  PR put out a press release  saying “…Gerard has completed a successful course of treatment…” 

Has photos of themselves swanning around  LA and Malibu literally the day after getting out of rehab.

And  literally the day after – let’s not forget in time for the biggest party season on the Hollywood calendar – is seen smiling for the cameras  and going to Oscar  parties.

 And all  the time that press statement “…Gerard has completed a successful course of treatment… is being repeated on loads of  media outlets, across the globe,  garnering loads of sympathic column inches. 

Those are the  facts as of today.   Make of them what you will.  I know I have.

@ahem….:
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Where have you been??? Here is the timeline to help you out…
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“Please @ 02/27/2012 at 4:27 am
@good grief:
Let’s be honest; you’d fu/ck him in a second if he wanted you. But alas, you know you don’t have a chance with him so you’re ripping him OUT OF BITTERNESS. He wouldn’t touch an old cow like you and you know it.”
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My response…
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“Manny @ 02/27/2012 at 9:53 am
@Please:
Says an old heifer herself…

Short bus was for GFW who has called me stupid, idiot, etc. more times than I can count and yes I typed it in anger since I have had to explain over and over and over ad nauseum to her that she doesn’t know me.
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I appreciate you were offended but that was not my intent for you or his fans. I do find your double standards embarrassing for you. I still wish you a good day. :)
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@From a lurker:
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Again, I said hypothetically. Also your point was that people were making this issue a reason for an addict to not seek treatment. Now you’re off on another tangent and not addressing your original post which we were, I thought, discussing.
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Addiction is a serious matter not to be treated lightly IMO. As I have said over and over, as a nurse who cares for addicts regularly in the ER, to confront an addict and say you need rehab and it will be a hard and long process and then have them say “does that mean two weeks?” is just disheartening.
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They don’t want to do the time. THAT is the biggest road block for addicts to seek treatment IMO. Whether a celebrity goes to rehab or not is not the main issue when confronting an addict about treatment. It is the time and choices they will have to invest that does.

Wowza, no man should look that good . . . loving the way his hair is styled and what an incredible suit . . . so handsome! Whatever he is doing now is definitely working . . . stay healthy GB . . . inside and out!

@Stormyweather:
Don’t be ridiculous. Anyone who’s been a GB fan and has read the Gerry threads here at JJ knows who those people are. Do you think that just because I’m not a fan anymore I also suddenly have a case of amnesia?

From a lurker @ 02/27/2012 at 4:13 pm

@Oh dear 1: “How many famous people do you know”
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I don’t pretend to know famous people. I know the people in my life. All I know is what the representatives of famous people say. From a common sense point of view, it makes sense that if TMZ or some other tabloid got information about Gerry being in rehab, they’d call Gerry’s publicist and ask for a statement. I would expect the publicist to give them a statement that’s truthful but reveals as little of Gerry’s personal and private information as possible, and tries to deflect attention elsewhere, which they did.
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It didn’t surprise me at all to see Gerry turn up at Oscar parties. It’s not like he was hitting the club circuit with the guys. Gerry is a prominent Hollywood actor. The Academy Awards ceremony is a WORK event. The parties before and after filled with studio executives, directors, financiers, once and potentially future co-stars are WORK events. I know plenty of recovering addicts who still go to their office Christmas parties, receptions and so on. He doesn’t have to cut himself off from work events because he’s an addict. That’s crazy.
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Frankly, if indulging in substances is really what he wanted to do getting out of rehab, it would worry me more if we DIDN’T see him. I’d expect him to be far more likely to do that in private than out in the open at some of the biggest industry parties of the year being covered with ubiquitous cameras from media sources around the globe. And I think it is good for people to see him out and about, healthy and well.
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Really, I wouldn’t be surprised to still see him out socializing at clubs again generally. WIthout knowing exactly what his condition is and the treatment it requires, I can’t know what should and should not be off-limits for him in terms of behavior. Addiction treatment is not a “one size fits all” thing.
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Again, the myth here is that you know him, what his condition is, what treatment he received, what treatment you required, what treatment he may or may not be continuing to receive, and where his head is at. You don’t. I don’t. No one here does. If it’s really important to you to try to make everyone believe you know all of these things about him, then go ahead. But drop the notion that you’re doing it out of concern for those struggling with addiction. You’re not. Speculation does not help the system of support that addicts require. All you are doing is indulging your own compulsions by spinning webs about Gerry Butler’s motives. Nothing more.

@Question:
Chloe is one of Gerry’s ex-girlfriends. A model. I think they dated in 2009 or 2010 but it could’ve been later.

@redOctober:
The same burnette from last year was with him. Alan wasn’t there.

@Mimi:
No, he never dated Chloe

Hollywood Gossiper @ 02/27/2012 at 4:24 pm

I wasn’t going to say anything but I have to try and state this as slowly and simply as I can for GFW.

I don’t know how you can make an assumption that just
because someone presents well on the red carpet they must be 100 per cent OK, cured, fine, nothing was every really wrong, given the facts in front of you and bashing people who don’t agree with your assumptions is priceless given you didn’t realize anything was wrong before and the red flags were there for months. Because people including myself have raised concerns about Gerry, though we may not have known exactly what was wrong but our gut feeling was something was wrong and we got knocked and bashed for our “negativity” by you and others because of course nothing is ever wrong in Gerryworld.

So now suddenly you know more than the rest of us again. NONE OF US KNOW WHERE HE IS AT RIGHT NOW.

Can you take it as a sign that perhaps he is OK or on the way to OK. Yes, maybe. Can you take it that he’s perfectly fine or “cured” or there was never anything wrong, NO so for you to bash people who reserve judgment indicates despite appearances having deceived you before, you really don’t get how appearances can be deceiving and you still don’t get how the PR machine works. The people who are expressing concern or reserving judgment are doing it precisely because they are worried about him. Is that a bad thing?

I suspect, because it SEEMS his PR people were taken by surprise, that they hoped or Gerry hoped or they all hoped Gerry could slip in and out of rehab and no one would be the wiser. Unfortunately or maybe fortunately it did not happen that way.

Unlike GFW I will keep my promise. I am no longer commenting on this subject until there is some actually new to discuss, like new information/PR statement or Gerry speaks. Far as I am concerned it’s one day at a time for us and for Gerry. And if that is untenable for some, they need to do some reading on addiction.

@GF:
And how do you know he didn’t date Chloe? I heard he did. Please tell ;)
I heard she’s with Ariel Vromen now but I’m not 100% sure about that since the source I heard it from is not very reliable imo.

I see the Phannies are trying to save Gerry by sensoring JJ. Well the rest of us will sure to blame all of his enabling fans when he goes back into rehab within a year or dies from a drug overdose. Do I think its his fans fault? No, but they sure aren’t doing the man any favors.

I do have a problem with therapists openly making excuses for an addict on a board. They should know better. I deal with addicts daily in my job, and I know no one in the field would think it was a good idea for an addict, regardless of the extent of the relapse, to go back to their daily activities that got them into the mess in the first place. Especially, a day after they got out of rehab.

But I also think that most fans, who claim they love him, have a problem seeing Gerry as he is. Real love does not require that person to be anything but what they are. I think we know the die hard fans love the idea of the man, not who he is. Hence the reason to attack anyone with a different view.

No matter how hard you try and convince the rest of us, it won’t make Gerry better. Why not spend your time praying for the guy instead, that might actually help him get better.

How do you know it was the same brunette. It looks like it is someone different.reports said he was hanging out with jason bateman.unless she was. Lurking around.where do you get your sources.

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 4:48 pm

@ Lurker

Sometimes you have have to see things as how they are and not how you would like them to be . I gave you the cold hard facts about what’s has been seen and said of GB. If you don’t like them that’s your prerogative.

@Mimi:
she is friends with Ariel Vromen but not dating.
she never dated G!
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@cupccake:
Right with jason most opf teh night. But that brunette was also with him.

I will repeat that TMZ has backed off from the coke charge. They are now saying that it’s only a pain killers’ dependency, which developed as a result of injuries sustained over the years starting with “300”. Well, that’s not a surprise to me. We already heard about him suffering of frequent pain for a long time now. Pain killers’ dependency makes more sense than coke. He checked himself in voluntarily, and might have decided himself when to leave, not waiting for the 30 days recommended stay. Maybe he was in there for 2 weeks only, or maybe it was 3 weeks with the freedom to come and go, which explains why he was working a couple of day during the 3 weeks on the set of OMAM. We don’t know the circumstances so we need to give him the benefit of the doubt until we know differently.

@manny

I didn’t read their comments, I read yours.
Because someone else uses the language doesn’t make it ok.

That excuse is ridiculous and juvenile. Of course, I would hope those posters would refrain from the derogatory remarks too.

I think as a nurse, you would try to hold yourself to a higher standard, after all, you are meant to care for everyone, regardless of their size or abilities. But my bad.

Oh and thanks for the well wishes, as if I would think you really meant it.

@PsychoB:
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You it makes me laugh when the membership of the motherships land here because they are not allowed to discuss issues like this. Aren’t we the lucky ones???
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@Hollywood Gossiper:
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“I have to try and state this as slowly and simply as I can for GFW. ”
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I feel ya…….

From a lurker @ 02/27/2012 at 5:00 pm

@Oh dear 1: “Sometimes you have have to see things as how they are and not how you would like them to be . I gave you the cold hard facts about what’s has been seen and said of GB. If you don’t like them that’s your prerogative.”
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Cold hard facts? What cold hard facts? You know Gerard Butler, his medical condition, the treatment he received, the treatment he requires, what is and is not appropriate conduct for his condition like a kid watching cartoons knows Elmo.
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I don’t know how to speak to someone who thinks she knows the ins and outs of someone’s substance abuse and treatment when she doesn’t ACTUALLY know the person or the ins and outs of his substance abuse and treatment. Assumptions and speculation are not truth. If that’s not a concept that you can understand, then there’s no point discussing anything with you because you’ve lost touch with reality, and reality is exactly what someone contending with a substance abuse problem needs to deal with. At least people reading now know to ignore your words as self-indulgent conjecture that are just all about you and have no relation to Gerry Butler.

@GF:
Umm…where can I find a pic of this brunette?

@From a lurker:
“It didn’t surprise me at all to see Gerry turn up at Oscar parties. It’s not like he was hitting the club circuit with the guys. Gerry is a prominent Hollywood actor. The Academy Awards ceremony is a WORK event. The parties before and after filled with studio executives, directors, financiers, once and potentially future co-stars are WORK events.”
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That’s right! He has to be there. Just because they are dressed to the nines doesn’t mean they are not working. It’s more a work event than a party, and one shouldn’t miss it unless it’s not possible for one to be there. Half the deals in HW are made at these parties. That’s why it’s called an industry event. It’s an event for people in the business to meet and greet.
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These people that criticize him have no leg to stand on. They are desperately looking for something to use against him because they are jealous of his looks, success, money, celebrity – you name it, they are jealous of it. Criticizing him as viciously as they have, makes them feel better. Taking him down a peg makes them feel good, because it turns him into someone who is no better than a common drug addict, or whatever the issue is at the time. When he is seen with women they call him a manwho to make him look no better than the common lowlife hanging out in their local pub, and so on and so forth. Every issue that comes up in connection to him they will use to judge him and crucify him, as if any of them is any better. I guarantee this “Oh Dear” person is not only a total jealous nutjob, but she is also definitely no where as high morally as she expects him to be, so she is a hypocrite as well. I will never understand how you can draw conclusion about someone from hearsay, basically from tabloids stories and pictures.

@monroe:
she was seen with him last year at the GG awards. She is the same one at the Oscars this year.

God Bless yoou all! @ 02/27/2012 at 5:10 pm

For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins. Romans 3:23-24

@ahem….:
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I did mean it but you will think what you will.
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You’re kind of like a NBA referee only blowing the whistle when you missed the play.
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So ahem… why do you feel the need to admonish me for saying what I did while not admonishing Please? I’m really curious. Please was more crass and more demeaning in her post so why was it my post you decided to get indignant about?
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Also, as a human being, I get to choose how I perceive and respond to a post the same with you. What I do for an occupation doesn’t weight into it. Why aren’t you asking Please her occupation so you can tell her how she should behave? Your condescending misguided attitude is unfortunate IMO.

@Info:
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You make me giggle… you were the one fanning the fires of the gossip the last couple of threads…
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@niknoks
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I stand corrected. From what I could find Gerry’s PR has not said what he was being treated for in their direct statement. Every news link that had something on this posted their exact statement and then posted addition info such as this…
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“The 42-year-old thesp’s rep didn’t specify the reason for the stint, simply telling E! News that Butler had “completeld a successful course of treatment and has returned home in good health.” (Various reports claimed he had checked himself into rehab to fend off an increasing dependence on prescription painkillers.)”

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 5:21 pm

@PsychoB:

Everytime I read one of your moronic rants, I can think of a hundred reasons to call you out on your stupidity, but sometimes it just isn’t worth the trouble.

@Stormyweather:
STFU then, b/i/tch!!!!!

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 5:25 pm

@….:

So now we know who is @….:

@Godblessyouall Can u post this in WO message board? I read the messages on there and I really believe this can help him. Blessings to you for always using God’s word as encouragement and not mindless hatred like some of the posters here.

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 5:30 pm

@….:

So mature!

@Sofia:
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What’s wrong… you can’t copy and paste it yourself?
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The one thing about @Godblessyouall is she has always been neutral never taking sides and appreciating posters for whom they are, faults and all. It would be sad to see her pick some silly side.

@Manny:
You’re missing the point. I was trying to get to the truth. The truth is more important than posters using this for kicks. Yes, he is an actor and he has it all, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to malign him.
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We still don’t know exactly what happened and how long he was at rehab. But to call him a lowlife because he is going to industry events, or because he decided to do a shorter period than customary at rehab is no reason to dump on him. It’s his life and he knows what’s best for him. Oh dear is seriously over the top. i think she needs to take a break from here. She has said outrageous things, when all that happened is he checked HIMSELF into rehab, incase he’d have trouble in the future getting too dependent on them. To me that sounds like a very responsible mature man. Everything else you guys are hurling at him is unfounded and unfair.

GFW you are such a HYPOCRITE. You demean me constantly for taking care of my hubby and father. You say I’m controlled and can’t think for myself. You are constantly putting me down for loving and caring for my home to make life comfortable for myself and those I love and then you post this…
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“Nothing on this planet can compare with a woman’s love—it is kind and compassionate, patient and nurturing, generous and sweet and unconditional. Pure. If you are her man, she will walk on water and through a mountain for you, too, no matter how you’ve acted out, no matter what crazy thing you’ve done, no matter the time or demand. If you are her man, she will talk to you until there just aren’t any more words left to say, encourage you when you’re at rock bottom and think there just isn’t any way out, hold you in her arms when you’re sick, and laugh with you when you’re up. And if you’re her man and that woman loves you—I mean really loves you?—she will shine you up when you’re dusty, encourage you when you’re down, defend you even when she’s not so sure you were right, and hang on your every word, even when you’re not saying anything worth listening to. And no matter what you do, no matter how many times her friends say you’re no good, no matter how many times you slam the door on the relationship, she will give you her very best and then some, and keep right on trying to win over your heart, even when you act like everything she’s done to convince you she’s the one just isn’t good enough. That’s a woman’s love—it stands the test of time, logic, and all circumstance.”
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You are such a jerk. Now I know why you ride my ass the way you do… YOU’RE JEALOUS!

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 5:39 pm

My take on all of this is that G has been taking pain meds for a while due to chronic back injuries. The stunt at Mavericks made it worse and he realized he was getting too dependent. I think it was bad last year when he started surfing. That was about the time he looked strung out and stressed, lost a lot of weight and started smoking. He was in a lot of pain.
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He has detoxed now and hopefully he will find another solution for the pain. I think the coke rumors were unfounded and I don’t say that because I think he’s never indulged but I don’t believe he had any problem with it.
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I wish him all the best.

@Info:
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I’m not part of the debate about Oh Dear.
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I’m saying you are “all about the truth” yet you were the one posting every single nugget of gossip floating around out there on JJ as this broke and since. So I’m questioning why you are all of a sudden so worried about maligning Butler when you have been a contributor to the gossip. :)

@wtf?: Your open, honest and to the point posts are refreshing, and you don’t spew hate. Besides, I like your odd ball sense of humor. Have a great day, talk to you soon. Say hi to the fella’s for me♥

@Stormyweather:
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ITAW your post. Shocking I know but I do agree. He has successfully completed a detox. :)

malibumillie @ 02/27/2012 at 5:47 pm

Hold on for a minute, did he check himself into rehab himself or wasn’t that coming from the TMZ source too?

There were two statements made. The first one was attributed to Rupert Fowler which was very short and vague and a second one attributed to Alan.

Maybe we need to fish those out because we may really know less than we think. Did anyone from Gerry’s team actually confirm what TMZ has been saying which is what every other outlet is repeating and we presume since no one seems to be challenging it that part has to be true beyond the one allegation that was dropped though too late in some respects. What if it was the same TMZ source though?

I thought Rupert said that Gerard has completed treatment and was released in good health and didn’t Alan say he successfully completed treatment and was home in good health?

I’ll leave the fishing to others.

@Stormyweather: I’m sorry but you are naive. Cocaine has been a part of Butler’s lifestyle for quite some time now. Believe what you will, I happen to know this is the truth.

@malibumillie:
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After I went back and looked (see my reply to niknoks) that is the gist of it.

@Info
See, you seem reasonable. We can agree to disagree (re: botox) without insults and arguing. What is wrong with so many others that post here? This is a gossip site and is suppose to be for fun! No? And what’s up with some perfectly reasonable posts being thumbed down so much? Are the cray-cray from the fan sites coming here, hoping to silence us for not blindly kissing Gerry’s a/s/s?

I decided to start posting here because I could be frank. Most of you seem like fun, and, like me, can gush about GB at times, yet tell it like it is at other, not so fun, times. And what’s up with the hogwash at the fan sites that love and admiration of GB has to be “unconditional”? Ridiculous! I don’t even know the man…so of course my thoughts and feelings are conditional.

Just had to get that off my chest….

@Toronto:
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*applauding for you although that may be a kiss of death for you here considering how unpopular I am today*
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I hope you stick around…

Get Right @ 02/27/2012 at 5:56 pm

@Manny: ” it makes me laugh when the membership of the motherships land here because they are not allowed to discuss issues like this. ”
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There it is again. Is that your desperation argument? If someone disagrees with you or doesn’t like what you post, they must be a “phannie” or board mommy? I hate to break it to you, but some of us wouldn’t touch one of the fansites if the black plague spread across the globe and they had the sole vaccine. Some of us think Gerard Butler puts out an image of stereotypical smooth guy cheese. AND we also think your posts are full of stalkerish, bizarrely presumptive b@tsh__t. There are people who read and post on this board who aren’t big GB fans and think you, Oh dear, PsychoB and the like are just as obsessive as the convention-going, doll dressing, fansite joining fans. You all collect minutia printed by gossip sites, Twitter, and other sources and use it to support your arguments about him, claiming to know things about him that you can’t possible know. The only difference is that some of you do it because you love him and the other group does it because you hate the fact that you love him. You’re all nutters cut from the same cloth. So stop assuming that people who disagree with you are doing it because they luuuuuuuuv Gerard Butler. Some of us really just think you’re posting total cr@p.

@Manny:
If you’re going to find the truth, wouldn’t you want to make all news available for scrutiny? Why would I omit any news that I come across. Honest people bring everything forth because they want to discover the truth, not influence it to reflect only what they want.
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And don’t say you have nothing to do with ‘Oh Dear” because you have been commenting to her in agreement, as well as emboldening her mental illness. Frankly, I became tired of reading long posts filled with rants against GB. You’re just one step away from becoming like her – judging by your comments which you have been trying to deflect attention from. Please don’t act innocent.

@Get Right:
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Number 1 – I think it is sad that something so important has to be moderated and controlled as to what their membership is allowed to discuss since obviously they feel something and want to talk. They are only allowed to either write a “declaration of support” or go elsewhere. I find it fundamentally flawed because when shocking news comes out it would seem to me to be the time for the membership to pull together rather than be told what to feel and do or go elsewhere.
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Number 2 – I was eluding to the posters (other than myself) who never seem to have negs are getting negged to death. Again showing there is an element not normally here that is trying to control something here because they don’t have any control where they would prefer to be.
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The fact that you want to pull yourself into that comment and take it as a personal insult is quite telling. The post was a general comment to the board and yet you felt it was talking to you. Why??? Why did you feel it was pointed at you?
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I think you just wanted an opportunity to diss some posters here and you reached for whatever straw was out there. BTW congratulations for being elected to speak for everyone on this board you feel you represent. Quite arrogant of you…

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 6:12 pm

@mouse:

Yeah, and I used to date the Pope.

@Toronto:
I don’t believe there is such a thing as unconditional love, only maybe when parents and kids are concerned, but everything else is conditional, especially a love of an actor. So I agree with you there.
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That said, it will take Gerry doing something seriously immoral for me to withdraw support. Let me gice you an example. Child molestation or murder. Being addicted to pain killers and trying to kick the hobbit is not something that we need to hate him for. We might look down on him a bit because he wasn’t strong enough to resist instant gratification, but once you see him looking not again and cleaning up his act, not to mention when he gets back to work on new movies and looks like he is over the hurdle, you forget the little slip.
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The botox, like you say, we don’t have to agree with each other on that, and it’s not a big deal anyway. it won’t make one bit of difference in our lives either way.

I meant to say
but once you see him looking HOT again…..

@Info:
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I have not. I agreed with her earlier posts only about addiction and rehab and mocking a serious disease. The rest is hers to own all by herself.
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I was just pointing out that you are talking about maligning Butler and you were one to continually bring all links here and speculating. I’m not attacking your search for the truth just pointing out that you can’t post all the news (gossip), speculate and then try to admonish others about maligning Butler. :)

@Info:
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I agree with almost everything you say but I think we should leave the hobbits alone…. ;-p

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 6:20 pm

@malibumillie:

You can’t be this dense! He completed a detox, which is to physically get the drugs out of his system. This helps with withdrawal which can be quite painful. Now he can deal with his pain issues without resorting to the dangerous drugs, hopefully. He’s not cured, he’s just been treated.

Get Right @ 02/27/2012 at 6:22 pm

@Manny: “Number 1 – I think it is sad that something so important has to be moderated and controlled as to what their membership is allowed to discuss since obviously they feel something and want to talk. They are only allowed to either write a “declaration of support” or go elsewhere. I find it fundamentally flawed because when shocking news comes out it would seem to me to be the time for the membership to pull together rather than be told what to feel and do or go elsewhere.”
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Ok. I think the fansites are idiotic too, like I said. What’s your point?
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“Number 2 – I was eluding to the posters (other than myself) who never seem to have negs are getting negged to death. Again showing there is an element not normally here that is trying to control something here because they don’t have any control where they would prefer to be.”
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Ok. This thread is not your typical thread. This is not “Gerard Butler breathes while walking down the street.” This thread is about a serious issue that prompts strong reactions. Of course people are more likely to comment on it and react to it. As I said, all of those negs are not coming from fans. Some of them are coming from people who see both the cheesiness in Gerard Butler and the b@tsh__t in your posts. If you want to interpret that as people trying to control your precious JJ, ok, but you might want to spend some time outside once in a while.
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“The fact that you want to pull yourself into that comment and take it as a personal insult is quite telling. The post was a general comment to the board and yet you felt it was talking to you. Why??? Why did you feel it was pointed at you?”
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Nice try. You know that i already raised this point earlier in the day just a few scrolls north. In fact, you got all defensive, asking over and over “Are you addressing me? Are you addressing me?” LOL. Would you like me to do the scrolling for you and copy all of that again, or are you just gonna drop this lame attempt at bait?
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“I think you just wanted an opportunity to diss some posters here and you reached for whatever straw was out there.”
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If that’s what’s gonna help you sleep at night, good for you.
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“BTW congratulations for being elected to speak for everyone on this board you feel you represent. Quite arrogant of you…”
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I said “some of us,” not all of us. Do I really need to distinguish the difference between “some of us” and “all of us” for you? Perhaps someone on the board is an English tutor and can help you with that.

@Stormyweather: Stormy, do you remember there are some pics of him with a therapist sometime in the summer doing stretching excercises. He was at a park.
The one pic showed this darling little girl watching him workout. Besides his back he was supposed to have a groin pull that was quite the fuel for posts. So I can see why he might have more than one pain issue.

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 6:28 pm

@Manny:

Have you ever tried The Butler Pantry? I think over there they pretty much say it all and post it all. It might be your cup of tea.

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 6:34 pm

@lolita:

I do remember that pic. He was on the ground and what appeared to be a physical therapist was working with him. Also, I remember when he was filming PTF, he had a PT working with him. There’s a pic of the guy holding his arms backwards and G has a suit on.

@Info:
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You make an interesting comment here… “something that we need to hate him for.”
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Who is hating him for it? Not me. Do I see this as a healthy rehab? No. Do I see how his PR is handling this frustrating? Yes. Do I think him going to HW parties notorious for drug use just after leaving “rehab” a poor example of commitment to recovery if he was indeed being treated for substance abuse? Yes. I don’t hate Butler. I have never said that.
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I think this whole situation is FUBAR.
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TMZ outted him being at Betty Ford. His PR had to provide something as the story broke and were very vague but declare him “healthy.” Where did the painkillers info come from? Not a direct statement from his PR but was it fed to the media from his PR? When did the cocaine info filter in?
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I have yet to see Butler’s camp issuing a denial about anything or filing a defamation lawsuit either. TMZ is led by a lawyer who protects his ass. Why would they feel so comfortable to continue to say what they are saying?
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Unfortunately as with everything Butler, no one will get a straight answer and even if we did would we believe it?

@Stormyweather:
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Great clarification. *applauding*
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@Get Right:
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I asked if you were talking to me because earlier I thought you were and you corrected me that you were not addressing me but the board in general even though your post started @Manny. It was a simple question because of the confusion before.

@niknoks:
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You are a cheeky one. :)

@Info
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You are misrepresenting TMZ. They have not issued a retraction about the cocaine addiction. You’re acting as if they have.
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TMZ broke this story and called Gerry’s reps for confirmation. The deal TMZ likely made with Gerry’s reps was they would report on both the cocaine addiction and the prescription meds in the first article and then discuss only the pain killers in future and simply stay silent about the cocaine. This is how TWZ maintains a relationship with Gerry’s reps and can get exclusives from them in the future. It’s a delicate balancing act that these sites are always engaging in with celebs. They can have great sources telling them one thing and reps wanting to spin the story in a way favorable to the celeb. They find ways of navigating both.
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What is telling here, is what has not happened.
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Gerry’s reps have not denied the cocaine addiction and that is HUGE. The cocaine story is now all around the world. If Gerry was not using coke his reps would have forcefully issued a denial. They would not have let the coke story go viral. There has been no denial about the cocaine addiction. They would have also demanded TMZ issue a retraction and remove the coke story from the original article. TMZ has not issued a retraction saying the coke addiction was false and the cocaine problem is still in the original article for all the world to see. This speaks volumes.
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TMZ has updated the original article and still has not removed the coke story.
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A false accusation of cocaine could have serious repercussions for Gerry’s career. There would have been a swift and strong denial by Gerry’s team to every news outlet on the planet if it wasn’t true.
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TMZ are talking about the pain-killers today and simply not saying anything one way or the other about the cocaine. They don’t have to because the cocaine story is already all around the world.

Stormyweather @ 02/27/2012 at 6:41 pm

I don’t see the HW parties being the place to score drugs really. I see some very lovely, high profile folks having a good time, drinking perhaps, and eating good food. Where I would worry about Butler is the clubs late at night. I’m hoping we don’t see any pap pics of him coming out of one of those. I’ve heard the drugs flow freely in some of those places.

@Manny:

Despite all the arguments and name-calling of the past few days, I think we can all agree there should be no kicking of hobbits. ;-p

@Get Right:
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BTW I do think it is a shame that the members are moderated. As I said when this first broke, it must have generated a lot of feelings with his fan base and I did (and still do) think it is sad that they can’t discuss this amongst their membership openly at their fansites. Like I have said three times, when shocking news comes to light pulling together and discussion helps works through issues and like-minded people would have insight into each other.

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 6:47 pm

@ Lurker

Cold hard facts? What cold hard facts? 

 So I am making up that he was went into rehab – for a few weeks

 I am also making up that his   PR put out a press release  saying “…Gerard has completed a successful course of treatment…” 

And those pictures of  him in LA and Malibu literally the day after getting out of rehab, are simply a figment of my crazy imagination

And of course  literally the day after  he left rehab- which of course wasn’t in time for the biggest party season on the Hollywood calendar – and pictures and VT of him smiling for the cameras  and going to Oscar  parties. that didn’t happened either

As for all work and no play at the Oscar night  Hollywood parties-how little you know on that one – but of course that’s  me  just making stuff up again.
 

 And it’s utter nonsense that all  the time that fictitious  press statement “…Gerard has completed a successful course of treatment… is being repeated on loads of  media outlets, across the globe,  garnering loads of sympathic column inches. 

Yeah right- all of the above is pure self indulgent conjecture that’s just all about me and has no relation to GerryButler.  Ok if you want to believe that it’s fine by me.

@Stormyweather: yes I remember that also. To look at him you wouldn’t think he is living with pain. George Clooney also said recently that he lives with pain on a daily basis. He too is always smiling and goofy.

@Stormyweather:
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Thanks but this is the only place I ever posted and do post.
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BTW I think that person was identified as a yoga instructor but I’m not sure.
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@niknoks:
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I am in total agreement. :)

@niknoks:
LOL, yes the habits not the hobbits.
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I have so many spelling mistakes i can’t even count. i get too lazy for proof reading, especially when I am doing other things in between posting.

From a lurker @ 02/27/2012 at 7:04 pm

@Oh dear 1: “Cold hard facts? What cold hard facts?
So I am making up that he was went into rehab – for a few weeks
I am also making up that his PR put out a press release saying “…Gerard has completed a successful course of treatment…”
And those pictures of him in LA and Malibu literally the day after getting out of rehab, are simply a figment of my crazy imagination
And of course literally the day after he left rehab- which of course wasn’t in time for the biggest party season on the Hollywood calendar – and pictures and VT of him smiling for the cameras and going to Oscar parties. that didn’t happened either
As for all work and no play at the Oscar night Hollywood parties-how little you know on that one – but of course that’s me just making stuff up again.
And it’s utter nonsense that all the time that fictitious press statement “…Gerard has completed a successful course of treatment… is being repeated on loads of media outlets, across the globe, garnering loads of sympathic column inches.
Yeah right- all of the above is pure self indulgent conjecture that’s just all about me and has no relation to GerryButler. Ok if you want to believe that it’s fine by me.”
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THESE are the things that have led you to conclude that Gerry didn’t go to rehab in earnest and it just exploiting a storyline for publicity? Jesus Christ. Really? That’s just demented. Each point above has already been addressed in previous posts so I won’t rehash, but you really are disturbed. I don’t know if it is a Gerry Butler specific distortion going on in your head or if you’re like this with everything, jumping to bizarre conclusions based on pittance. I kinda hope you’re like this with everything, because if it’s Gerry specific, I’d be worried for his safety.
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Not that the distinction matters that much, but who said that his publicist put out a press release? How do you know that he wasn’t called by TMZ or other tabloids and asked for a statement? Have you seen a copy of a press release? Has there been a report that they sent around a press release? Didn’t one of the two statements issued come from Alan’s mouth? Again, it doesn’t matter, because the mere fact that they responded to an inquiry about rehab doesn’t suggest that he’s using the storyline for publicity like you sickly claim. But I’m not sure where you’re getting that “fact.”
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Ugh, God. This is really scary.

@TMZ:
I didn’t say they issued a retraction. I said they are not continuing to mention coke in their reporting, only painkillers. So don’t bother. Therefore, your post is worthless.

I think most here can agree there are more questions than answers…

malibumillie @ 02/27/2012 at 7:10 pm

@Stormyweather:I am not talking to you. You just seem like your name, you just hurl invective at people even those who are not even addressing you. Feel free to ignore all my posts and stop your negative thumbing you are the old Eve ain’t ya. Still angry huh. Take a pill, take several.

@TMZ:
—Gerry’s reps have not denied the cocaine addiction and that is HUGE. The cocaine story is now all around the world. If Gerry was not using coke his reps would have forcefully issued a denial. They would not have let the coke story go viral. There has been no denial about the cocaine addiction. They would have also demanded TMZ issue a retraction and remove the coke story from the original article. TMZ has not issued a retraction saying the coke addiction was false and the cocaine problem is still in the original article for all the world to see. This speaks volumes.—
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EXACTLY!!!

@Manny:
That’s true, there are more questions than answers, which is why i asked many questions myself and posted as many links as I could find. But honestly, it’s also safe to say that we can’t jump to conclusions until we hear more. Hey, we might not. But making up stories in the absence of info is not as a good policy.

goodgravy @ 02/27/2012 at 7:14 pm

What happened to good old-fashioned Catholic shame? :P I would be embarrassed as heck after exiting rehab, not going to parties. I don’t think he should be kicking himself, but a little humility might be a good idea. Thumb away…

@Stormyweather: Oooh, you need to start worrying already because there were a lot of private Oscar after parties, at private residences, away from nosey journalists, and Gerard announced to NY Times columnist he was heading off to Relativity Media party after Vanity Fair which apparently lasted until dawn. If you think that was a coke free environment you must work for Pepsi.

@Info:
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You are right. I really thought I had read the painkillers as part of the official statement. It wasn’t until niknoks was so firm in her post that no substance was identified that I went back and reread it. That is why I posted to her that I was wrong.
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I know when I heard this news I was shocked. Call me naive but when he was espousing his sober lifestyle I took that to be all encompassing. I know, foolish me.
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I know my feelings about the whole thing have been all over the place and I just like the guy. I guess that is why I really feel for the fans on the fansites because I know they are a lot more devoted to him than I could ever be. If I was feeling confused and duped I can’t imagine what they were feeling. I also stayed away from the thread while I was sorting out how I felt about this whole thing and why I was feeling what I was about the whole thing.
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They should be able in times like this to bond, discuss, and work through these moments with those they have so much in common with in a comfortable place. To me it isn’t being disrespectful to Gerry but allowing the membership to discuss and bond through shared ideas, fears, hopes, etc. It is obvious they have his well-being all in common so why not?

@TMZ:
Sorry about my first reply to you. I only read the part where you were accusing me of misrepresenting TMZ, which I wasn’t. I only said it has not been repeating the coke as a reason for his rehab, which it did on Friday when it first broke the story. The rest of your post makes sense and could very well be true.
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Your analysis has merit. The only thing I disagree is that I have acted like TMZ has retracted. If I thought it has retracted, I would have said those exact words. I only think it’s peculiar TMZ is not repeating the coke thing since Saturday morning, and maybe it’s because coke wasn’t the issue at all. Maybe TMZ embellished. Again, I don’t know. I only want to learn the truth. I think there are definitely more questions than answers at this point but we shouldn’t jump to conclusions.

poisonous playmates @ 02/27/2012 at 7:34 pm

If I recall correctly, Ariel was the one filming Gerry making out with Violin Girl. He was right beside them taking close-up video of the whole nasty thing. No close-up video ever surfaced in the press, so this was for private use. Creepy and disgusting. I wouldn’t be so quick to say Ariel is a good influence on Gerry. He seems to be an active participant in the toxic soup he calls “friends”.
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Gerry needs to get clean and then clean house. New friends, new environment, and a lifestyle that supports recovery not relapse. From the bottom of my heart, I wish you the very best Gerry. You’ve got some tough decisions to make and I hope you have the strength to make the right ones. I don’t want to see you getting booked for possession. I don’t want to hear that you’ve died from this. I want to see you in great films doing great work. The choices ahead are yours and no one else’s. Please choose health and recovery. This could be your last chance. Don’t play Russian roulette with your future. Whitney did and lost. She was only six years older than you. The human body can only take so much abuse before it gives out. I don’t want to see you in the “In Memoriam” section at the Oscars next year. I want to see you on the red carpet.

@Manny: “I think most here can agree there are more questions than answers”
Some of us would also say it’s none of our business to ask questions and expect answers. Someone found out he went to rehab. Rupert was asked for a statement. They gave their statement. Gerry’s out of rehab and by all appearances fine and ready to get back to work. There’s no reason for them to go into further detail about his private medical condition to admit or deny any tabloid reports. If they open that door, it will never close, so end of story. If something else happens, and it might, they will deal with it however they deal with it. Based on the information known, all that can be done is to wish him well and hope that he turns out some good movies in the future.
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As for Oh dear, that’s just a dark soul. Ignore her. I agree with Info and Lurker. There is nothing to draw conclusions from about Gerry and we shouldn’t do so. Anyone who wants to prove something more than what’s been said has a bizarre agenda not worth entertaining.

@Manny:
“I know when I heard this news I was shocked. Call me naive but when he was espousing his sober lifestyle I took that to be all encompassing. ”
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I felt exactly like you. I was shocked and thought of him weak at first; it turned me off. But then i realized i was being overly judgmental without knowing all the facts. And I asked myself, ‘can someone profess to be so strong, yet really be that weak inside?’ Then I remembered all the drunken people he would encounter in pubs and clubs and offer them a ride, or give them a short pep talk about not getting drunk and endangering themselves, especially the girls.
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“I know my feelings about the whole thing have been all over the place and I just like the guy. ”
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The same in my case. I really think the truth should count for something. So I have tried to analyze with other posters and asked WTF is going on, which might have been mistaken by certain people for not supporting him, but that’s simply not true. I just want to know the truth. But see, we might not be able to if he won’t tell us himself, or issue a more encompassing statement. So in the absence of info we can try to read between the lines up to a certain point, but after that it’s not fair to jump ito conclusions that have absolutely no basis in truth. That’s what I am against.
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“They should be able in times like this to bond, discuss, and work through these moments’
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Definitely. However, you have to understand that some people here have been so vile and have said exceptionally mean unsubstantiated things about him, that even if you’re not a big fan you can get offended by this blatant hatefulness and nonsense. Trust me; one doesn’t have to be a big fan of his to have the decency to give the guy the benefit of the doubt (in the absence of info) before character assassinating him. It’s just common decency.
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@Really:
“Anyone who wants to prove something more than what’s been said has a bizarre agenda not worth entertaining.”
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Right; they do have a bizarre agenda. A lot of it is their own emotional problems that they project on Gerry. I would say, a lot of them have negative issues with men. But alas, I don’t have time to analyze them too. I am exhausted from this.

@Really:
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You make a good point but alas humans are curious creatures. I have never said that Butler or his people owe us any answers.
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I would disagree that the door is closed. Now rumors are swirling about his cocaine usage and all sorts of stories (please note I didn’t say substantiated truth) in the long run is that a good thing?

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 8:04 pm

 @ Lurker

Oh Jeez.  In your post 145- in which you stated “… Cold hard facts? What cold hard facts?…” 

 And  I gave you the the cold hard  facts in my post number 190 and a pervious post. 

In my other posts  being very very  aware of how the media and entertainment industry works – which you and many others here are obviously most definitely are not- I gave you my opinions.

Make of that what you will. Which means once again you’ll go ballastic and probably lose the plot. But hey each to their own

Gerry’s had to make a few brutal choices in the past to arrive at that right outcome. He’ll do it again, and again, but the sacrifice must count for something.
~K

Wow with all the vitriol on these GB threads, the ones with logic are going into moderation.

@Info:
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That is why I feel they should be able to discuss on their fansites. This is an open forum and it will be all over the place just like today. At their fansites they can have a safe environment to work through stuff and even make it private against us prying eyes.
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I was really disappointed when he started making the party rounds. Again I believed he was fighting drug addiction and seemed to me as a poster child for how not to do rehab and was making light of it in his (what I perceived as flippant) behavior. I based my opinion on reading TMZ, but obviously not closely enough. That is my bad.
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I do take addiction and recovery very seriously. I see its victims constantly. Not a shift goes by without at least one overdose, alcohol poisoning, chemically altered state, etc. It is a not something I can joke about as I stated days ago. As a result I can be quite assertive in my opinions where addiction and treatment are concerned.

Thanks one and and ALL for a day of spirited discussion to help pass the time. Funny as it will sound, you made waiting out my stomach flu more tolerable by having something to think about. Also many many thanks for giving me an option other than daytime TV. :P
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Best wishes to all…

From a lurker @ 02/27/2012 at 8:31 pm

@Oh dear 1: “lose the plot.”
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Oh, believe me. I’ve got your plot down. You’ve made it frighteningly clear.

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 8:32 pm

@ really

Thanks for the dark soul comment. Really nice. Appreciate it. Great to see so many posters not totally going ballistic and being incredibly insulting when a valid opinion is put forward that they simply don’t like. Marvellous. Carry on.

@Logic:
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Kind of think a lot of the anger toward him is fear. Fear of losing him. Fear he could get tampered or tainted substances because some sick people are out there who are jealous of him.
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Since what we think about comes about I try not think like that. Just the opposite! Just too many close calls too close together for my (personal) liking so something is off-balance it seems and he needs to be more in charge of his own destiny. He hasn’t fulfilled his purpose(s) yet.
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Fact is, he’s mortal. He’s not Peter Parker. He’ll not Hellboy. He’s flesh and blood… a man. And he’s a man with a good heart. I have a lot of respect for him, even with all things considered.
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Feel, somehow, all that happens happens for a reason. What reason this? That, like a lot in his life, isn’t up to me (or us) but to him to know or figure out. Again, with men, now is all that matters. That said, I have a lot of faith in him. I believe he can kick whatever he needs to. I respect his time spent at the BFC, it couldn’t have been easy.
~K

@Manny:
“I based my opinion on reading TMZ, but obviously not closely enough. That is my bad.”
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That’s why we have to be careful before we believe any tabloid article. We need to scrutinize everything.

Actually, i am not disappointed he’s doing the party rounds. On the contrary, I am happy he is. As Nikons and I discussed Sunday, we don’t think it’s good for him not to lead a normal life. Part of his work is attending industry events and parties, and if he were not to go it could have an adverse effect on his career. If he lost his career I don’t think it will be good for him. He is not just going to move back to Scotland and live a quiet life. That’s not his style. He needs the wheeling and dealing, the excitement, the adulation, the attention, the fun, the friends, the traveling, the jet setting, the parties, the invitations, and the stardom. If he loses his career he will dive back into destruction. I think the only thing he is missing, and maybe a source of his unhappiness is someone who really cares and loves him for him; someone he can settle down with and try to have a normal life, as much as possible in an environment like HW. She can be his bulwark.
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I will never understand those that say he should leave for Scotland for 6 months. How is that going to help him? He has to get over his emotional issues. Being in Scotland is not going to make a bit of difference if he still has issues. As soon as he is back in LA he’d be using again. He needs to get over whatever makes him find solace and comfort in drug use, if indeed coke is the issue. If coke is not the issue, but painkillers are, then he needs to find ways to alleviate the pain in ways that don’t involve medication all the time, or risk becoming dependent for life, destroying himself eventually.

where do you think he is tonight?
Any sightings?

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 8:46 pm

@ From a Lurker

Easy now. Easy now girl. You might do yourself a mischief, with those ridiculously over dramatic statements in your defence of the honour of GB.

@Manny: “I would disagree that the door is closed. Now rumors are swirling about his cocaine usage and all sorts of stories (please note I didn’t say substantiated truth) in the long run is that a good thing?”
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As with most things Gerry, the people on JJ, IMDb, and the fansites are way more aware of the rumors out there than the rest of the world because people are actively looking for them. Generally speaking, Gerry is just not the gossip, tabloid wonder that people like to make him seem. He’s not a regular headline on People, US Weekly, and other major outlets. He mostly pops up on gossip websites and they’re fluff pieces that most people pass over if they notice them at all. People here pay attention because Gerry is obviously of interest to them. “Brandigate” was “Brandiwhat?” to anyone who doesn’t pay particular attention to RHBH or Gerry news.
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On this topic, the conjecture in some of the comments here is not in the headlines elsewhere. The major gossip sites are done talking about it because there are bigger stories. The entertainment sites are all rolling out positive headlines, talking about how good he looks post rehab. Despite the wishful thinking of some of the people posting on this thread, there does not seem to be a campaign to try and turn Gerry into the next RDJ-esque tragic story, and rightly so. There’s no basis for anyone to conclude that Gerry is so fargone and there’s no basis for anyone to believe there’s some silly conspiracy theory behind all of this. That does not mean that there’s not more to the story, of course, but if there is, it’s no one’s business. A statement was requested, a statement was given, the statement was accepted and run, no reason to make more of it at this time.

I found this post on IMDB and I think it applies equally to JJ.
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“The “good” posters here, who name call and personally attack, are obsessed with the “bad” posters, as much or more than they are with Gerard Butler.
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They just CAN’T UNDERSTAND why people who don’t adore him post here. How dare we.
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The, shall I say, “dim” idea that we are all closet fans who have been scorned by him (whatever that means) is the only explanation they can come up with.
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The real explanation is that some of us, even former fans, don’t like his movies and/or behavior anymore, but do like this forum. It’s that simple. Period.”

earlygirl @ 02/27/2012 at 9:07 pm

dr drew taliking about GB tonight on his show. On now.

facereality @ 02/27/2012 at 9:07 pm

Dr. Drew is discussing this issue tonight. May I suggest reading the transcript if you are unable to watch.

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 9:14 pm

@ Really

Apart from insulting people who you don’t agree with that is.

Get Right @ 02/27/2012 at 9:15 pm

@opinion: “The, shall I say, “dim” idea that we are all closet fans who have been scorned by him (whatever that means) is the only explanation they can come up with.”
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Yeah, I don’t get when fans get all upset when people say they don’t like his movies or think that he’s a cheeseball player. The man’s been in some sucky movies and he’s says enough in interviews about being on the prowl to believe he is. But concocting stories about drug use beyond what his reps say and conspiracy theories about rehab being a stunt that he’s exploiting for profit? That’s f__cked up and you do have to wonder what makes someone’s mind “go there” when there’s no reason for it to do so. I think it’s ok for people to call people on BS when they post BS. It’s certainly no worse than telling fans that they’re in denial when they state their BS. Regardless of whether you love him or hate him, neither being normal, if you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

Cnoc Mhor @ 02/27/2012 at 9:19 pm

Dr Drew will discuss GB attending the parties last night etc. in a few minutes on his show on HLN. It will air again at 12:00am eastern if anyone is interested…

earlygirl @ 02/27/2012 at 9:20 pm

the only reason butler admitted to rehab is the tabloids were about to do it for him.

@earlygirl: “the only reason butler admitted to rehab is the tabloids were about to do it for him.”
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Why would he volunteer information about his medical issues and give the tabloids a heads up that he’s going to rehab so that they could follow him there? So that Betty Ford would have to deal with the photographers over the fence the way that Promises had to contend with such things when Lindsay Lohan was getting treatment? Celebrities are not required to reveal their medical history to the public. If someone gets a tip and calls them out on it, they can choose to make a statement or not. Totally makes sense that they made a statement on the day he was leaving rehab and not before. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if TMZ was tipped off before hand and an agreement was reached that Rupert would provide a statement if TMZ waited to run it until he was leaving.
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Let me be clear – I’m not saying that’s what happened. No one knows what happened. I’m just saying that there’s nothing particularly weird about how things have gone down. It’s odd that some people aren’t satisfied by that and are looking for a juicier story.

If there’s a thousand posts from me (exaggerating) that all the sudden pop up basically saying the same thing, it’s because I was thinking maybe my username was why I was being moderated. So tried different ones. I wanted to get my point across damnit!

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 9:30 pm

Being the evil dark soul that I am. Here’s another comment.  
In HW the dollar is always the bottom line. Always.  That’s a fact. And I bet GB well aware of that. Oh and that’s an opinion. And Pubic Relations in HW is a business not a charity. That’s another fact. Many seem to want to conveniently forget the word business in show business.

Cnoc Mhor @ 02/27/2012 at 9:42 pm

Geez, it sure is “negative-thumb-orama” here now! Who ever would we be without the thumbs;)

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 9:46 pm

Oh and I so love “Really’s”  wonderfully  benign  points about GB’s media coverage. Very enlightening (wry smile)

Yes yes, Oh dear. We know you don’t like being called out for your wacko conspiracy theory and weird anti-GB obsession. Even one of your cronies asked not to be associated with your strange comments. Proving that you’re twitchy by posting repeatedly about the posters who have called you out doesn’t make you seem more reasonable. But if that’s fun for you, carry on. LOL.

Oh dear 1 @ 02/27/2012 at 9:56 pm

@ Really

Keep the comment coming. Just keep em coming. Ha.

retiring with Ryan @ 02/27/2012 at 9:57 pm

Love the bowtie
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earlygirl @ 02/27/2012 at 9:58 pm

guess AJ was more interesting to talk about than GB. Im not sure i agree that he has to stay in a cave. This is the biggest night of the year in his profession. yes, it’s a job. A person on a diet wouldn’t be told to stay home because there was a buffet.. i’m sure he was appropriately monitored because everyone would be gunning to get a story of him falling off the wagon.
everyone’s looks fades in this town….stars fade.. roles are going to younger men and this happens to everyone. he’s not respected enough to make the “hunk – to – oscar” jump. This town does love a comback story and maybe it will help get the word out that he is on a different road.

Cnoc Mhor @ 02/27/2012 at 9:59 pm

Ok, I think I need to take back my recommendation to watch Dr. Drew as nothing else materialized after the teaser?! Did anyone else see anything different???…or was it that short a segment that I blinked and missed it???

Get Real

Thank you I will.

@earlygirl: I guess her segment took up too much time…oh well…back to watching politics:)

@Cnoc Mhor:
You’re right. I watched the show (even recorded it!) and they didn’t get to the GB segment. I think it was because of the breaking news about the school shooting.

@HLN: probably, I thought it might have been interesting to hear Dr. Drew’s take on things…maybe he will take a look at GB tomorrow night…

Get Real

Oh and what exactly was my wacko conspiracy theory. In your opinion?

i think they need to leave it alone. get bashed if you stumble all over a party, get bashed if you go to rehab, get bashed if you come out of rehab, get bashed if you continue your life… no wonder he needed drugs.. if he ever read this board, he’s be off the wagon in a minute..

but he is a great fantasy boyfriend .. absolutely nothing with it. very healthy , unless you post on a board all night… ahhhh..oppss…:).. okay back to real world..

@Cnoc Mhor:
Let us know if it’s tomrrow night. Maybe he’ll even have more time to devote to GB.

@Info: I’d hate to recommend Dr. Drew’s show again and have the GB segment be dropped:( maybe if it is scheduled tomorrow, they will write about it on their site drdrew.blogs.cnn.com I guess the only way to know for sure is to watch the show or record it and see what happens…I think Dr. Drew will discuss GB at some point because he seems really determined to expose the prescription drug abuse/alcohol epidemic that has been sweeping the country and beyond. He wants intervention in these cases before it is too late. I think he really was deeply affected at the loss of Whitney Houston and other celebs recently, not to mention all the people including his viewers who have lost loved ones to addiction and those struggling to get well.

Dr. Drew on TV @ 02/27/2012 at 10:49 pm

Dr. Drew’s take might be interesting, but I’m not sure what’s he could talk about other than that Gerry went to rehab and gossip. I have to say that the way Dr. Drew sticks his nose into the business of people who haven’t retained him for his professional opinion kinda annoying. It seems like whenever someone goes into rehab or there are rumors about drug use, Dr. Drew pops up with an opinion about what’s going on even if the person is already in treatment with other doctors. He seems really opportunistic that way, which seems inconsistent with the whole “do no harm” thing that applies to medical doctors like him. I liked him when he was just chilling on Loveline, but since he’s been on TV, it’s like it’s gone to his head and he uses rumors about other people’s problems to up his profile. I just don’t like doctors talking about people’s medical issues without examining them. Seems wrong.

Was going 2 try and post my opinion again, not sure why some of my posts are going thru and some are not. Decided I don’t give a cr/ap really. Any opinion not approved by the fan girls gets thumbs down or u get attacked anyway. Live, laugh, love and pray for those in need. That is all.

@Logic:
First of all, any post that goes into moderation never shows up on the thread. JJ is lazy that way. They don’t bother checking on the moderated posts. They just delete them all.
The moderation feature is automatic and triggered by certain words, certain links, or two many links (you can’t put more than 2 links in a post).
It’s not that your opinion on Gerry wasn’t “approved”. If certain trigger words are in the posts are there are problematic links (too many or links JJ doesn’t like) then moderation kicks in regardless of the subject matter of the post.
What the trigger words are, are anybody’s guess. Sometimes it’s profanity, sometimes it’s a word that may be found in common spam posts such as w.ealth.
My advice is try wording your post in a different way. If there is anything profane use stars or dots to break up the word. JJ sets the bar very low on “profane”. They even don’t like the word f.art. LOL!
If there is a spam-associated word that can be trickier to figure out. So just try re-wording your posts and see what happens.
Hope this helps!

@Logic:
Also wanted to point out that JJ will remove posts sometimes due to an opinion, but that is separate from “moderation”.
If you write an opinion, and someone flags it to JJ, then JJ will occasionally delete a post.
However, when that happens the post did appear on the thread, and long enough for someone who disagrees with your opinion to flag it and ask JJ to remove it.
However when you get the message that your post is in “moderation”, it’s not about your opinion, but an automatic process that is based on trigger words and problematic links.
I hope that wasn’t too confusing! :-)

@Cnoc Mhor:
I could tell from promos that Dr. Drew was VERY concerned about Gerry attending parties too soon after he was released from Betty Ford. He said he was very concerned that this was putting him in “harm’s way”. He questioned if this was like “handing Gerry a loaded gun”, and drew a parallel to Whitney who did the same thing.

standing :0 @ 02/28/2012 at 1:28 am

Some people have a serious case of trigger thumb, crikey!

According to the New York Post newspaper, he chatted to a number of women, telling one, “I feel pretty good.”
According to the New York Post newspaper, he chatted to a number of women, telling one, “I feel pretty good.”
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“The 42-year-old thesp’s rep didn’t specify the reason for the stint, simply telling E! News that Butler had “completeld a successful course of treatment and has returned home in good health.” (Various reports claimed he had checked himself into rehab to fend off an increasing dependence on prescription painkillers.)”
http://www.eonline.com/redcarpet/2012/oscars/news/gerard-butler-looking-handsome-and-healthy-post-rehab-at-oscars-party/297063

I forgot to include the link:
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http://www.theprovince.com/entertainment/Butler+back+scene+after+rehab/6216070/story.html
“According to the New York Post newspaper, he chatted to a number of women, telling one, “I feel pretty good.”"

“The ’300′ actor recently spent three weeks at the Betty Ford Center in California receiving treatment for problems with prescription drugs before being released on Friday (24.02.12) and Gerard quickly rejoined the party circuit at the Weinstein Company’s gathering at Soho House in West Hollywood.

According to the New York Post newspaper, he chatted to a number of women, telling one, “I feel pretty good.”
http://www.iol.co.za/tonight/movies/butler-wastes-no-time-after-rehab-1.1243631

what idiots”
“Fighting fit: The actor looked tanned and fit, compared to his gaunt appearance at a magazine party in October”
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The reason he looks different in both pictures is because the one from Oct/2011 was taken from another angle, which makes one’s head look bigger. However, his body looks exactely the same. But i think the hair didn’t do him any good. He looked a little like Richard Brenson from Vir.gin. I defintely prefer colored and shorter hair. There is no doubt he looked “Haute” last night lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2107062/Gerard-Butler-looks-buff-bronze-best-makes-return-spotlight-rehab.html

I’ll just leave you with this last one, my favorite Gerard Butler site.
He looked so dazzling last night. You can see it in the first picture.
http://gbutler.ru/news/gerard-butler-vanity-fair-oscar-party-2012/

One more. This from WO:
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Gerry looks frazzled
http://gbutler.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/fc49b0996052.jpg.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/tebow_scores_with_the_stars_pwQUh6ZEMiU2DbCB3WsyuO
“Gerard Butler, looking back to his rugged, buff best after a short visit to rehab, told us, “I probably shouldn’t talk about it to you, but I feel pretty good.” He added with a smile, “I don’t think I look too bad. What do you think?” ‘
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He’s right! He looked great and he knew it lol.

Yes, frazzled indeed. Hope he left soon after. Kind of obvious the was crashing in that photo possibly simply not into it at all by that point. He’d hit his saturation point.
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That said, he never could have done what he has done without the habits of punctuality, order, and diligence, without the determination to concentrate myself on one subject at a time.
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Feel Gerry needs to feel more useful than how he is now. He needs to be needed, have purpose, be respected, kept busy progressing with his career (getting back to work) keeping focus on what’s really important right now, his recovery.
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I disagree with faulting him for attending the Vanity Affair party as seen as just getting back into the party scene. That wasn’t fair. It wasn’t to ‘party’. He was invited. You don’t just appear.
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He felt well and strong enough to show up and be counted in need of respect for completing an intensive hard few weeks of isolation and detox. It could not have been a pleasant experience.
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Living in that enabling environment can change people. Even if you’re authorized to bend the rules being a ‘star’, it changes you. Gerry’s a good guy who got caught up in a very bad situation. He’s wrestling with something he’s going to have to live with forever and so would his partner of the heart. He needs support not criticism.
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The other stuff is easier (I think) to deal with by shifting focus on who he hangs with and where then shifting to something else to fill the need for energy…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH56PuqaFJg

His issues are on-going. The back doesn’t just get better. His yearning for energy doesn’t fade. Yet I believe he has a strong link to the outside world he does not want to let down. That he will cope even if that means finding another spa somewhere else! Oregon? Fir trees? Fresh air? A trip along a river hiking? White water rafting? Just someplace with different options!
~K

@advice:

Haha. Well it’s alright. I didn’t even have any swear words…. I swear! lol Thank you for the info though, I will definitely keep all of that in mind in the future. Have a happy day. 😄

Gerry might benefit from Dr. Amen. Frankly we call could. His basic question before doing anything, eating, etc is “Will this help or hurt my brain.” Rather simple but it’s the same principle for eating. Is this food medicine? Is it good for me, by body, mind and soul?
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http://www.amenclinics.net/
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I also think he’s sleep deprived. Feel somehow, like at the BFC, he got good rest and lots of sleep. Our bodies recharge and cells rebuild when we sleep. The evidence is evident in these red carpet arrivals.
~K

Dr. Sleep @ 02/28/2012 at 9:19 am

Research on sleep suggests once you get into a pattern of not sleeping properly and of course that depends on the person but usually 6 – 7 hours a night is required for the body each night to repair and recharge as you say, especially say someone physically training their body, you can NEVER get that deficit back and it can do incredible damage to your health. So it comes down to changing one’s lifestyle and I get a feeling he doesn’t want to or can’t. He looks good on the red carpet because of makeup and stylists and he’s an actor, they know how to turn it on when called for. Check out the photo of him just a few hours later.

And that NY Post quote, sounds like Gerry trying to convince himself he’s OK

@Logic: & @advice:
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If you use the reply option on more than two posters you will end up in moderation land also. :)
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What should he be trying to convince himself of, he’s not OK? Think what he’s saying is he successfully completed the 1st step. Now on to maintenance, which is harder. Like they’ve said here. It’s the company he keeps. The environment and perhaps too much time on his hands.
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As for sleeping, feel he got more of that at the BFC and liked it. Developed a routine he might be trying to maintain. Give him some credit, won’t ya?
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You get a feeling he can’t. I get a feeling he can. He’s done it before so he’ll do it again! He’s incentives, a lot of them. The rewards far outweigh the negatives.
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Sorry, make-up?
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No he can’t get his deficit back! It’s about now. The future. Better living. Kicking addictions. Staying away from nay-sayers! Negative people who want to keep him down with them! Use him. Until he gets fed up with that, that’s his only problem that I can see. He’s got a tremendous amount of will-power!
~K

@Dr. Sleep:
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The other big thing about proper sleep is the emotional ability to cope. If you are sleep deprived you will feel more anxious, have a hard time concentrating, and depressive feelings will come to the forefront.

Just my thoughts. Ok when the news broke about Demi, I thought of Gerry. His eyes and face never looked quite right for a long while. I had trouble believing he was truly healthy. He said he fought the cigarettes last summer. To hear, his time in rehab – well Chaka Kahn said that since her time without drugs so many decades back she avoids places that tempt her. She wished Whitney did the same. So that being said, Dr. Drew’s statement about the concerns he has with Gerry and his parties makes sense. In fact, I thought the same when first heard the news.

So I hope for the best. He is a man of extremes.

Angelina jolie said once “iwent through heavy, darker times and I survived them,” she said. “I didn’t die young. So, I’m very lucky.” she was stunning but very thin according to many as dr. Drew points out. He states there is something very deep she must be working out. But I think with her children and causes she has a good shot to having a long life.

Gerard says the same things and has been in too thin also. His lifestyle is not as careful. I do not like to see him clubbing as often as he does. Again

Hoping for the best.

mailbumillie @ 02/28/2012 at 11:28 am

This is the thing though about the people who think Gerry looks good on the red carpet ergo he’s fine. If you are really a fan you know what Gerry himself has admitted to regarding his issues with alcohol, regarding his own addictive personality traits and his tendency to extremes. So this isn’t as if Tom Hanks suddenly did a three week stint at Betty Ford. This is someone with admitted issues and every recovering addict is one drink, one snort, one cigarette, one painkiller dependence away from relapsing back to full blown addiction. For those who have not seen it check out the TMZ post on page 7, it’s been conveniently negative thumbed but worth a read.

I saw part of Dr. Drew last night, didn’t seem him talking about Gerry but he says he felt bad he never said anything about Demi himself because he was concerned but kept it to himself and he claims he is not going to do that anymore. Is it his business maybe not. If it saves someone’s life down the line do you care?

Yes, Gerry looked great on the red carpet. He needed to be at this event because there were tons of important people there from the movie industry to make contact with. I understand all of your concerns and I agree wholeheartedly. However, none of us truly knows what is going on in his everyday life. He’s probably (and hopefully) seeing rehab counselors, etc. and doing everything he can to kick or work on whatever drug habits and/or other issues he has in his life. Just because he was at a couple of parties doesn’t mean he fell off the wagon. He needed to mingle with people in the business and be seen.
I would also say from the outside looking in that he needs to work on getting normalcy in his life – 8 hours of sleep a night, exercise, healthy relationships, etc. Hopefully he will take these next several weeks before he starts his next movie and do all of the above! I wish him the best.

#277: I agree! It’s very easy to have an opinion about someone else’s life . . . but in this case when it’s a health-related matter you want to your show support and hope that person is getting the best ongoing treatment based on their needs. GB certainly seems like a strong person and one can only hope he uses that inner strength to live his life in a healthy manner away from any possible enablers if that’s an issue. He looked great in the recent pics . . . present at work-related parties for work purposes . . . it didn’t appear that he was there to party just for the sake of partying so soon after exiting BFC. He seems very dedicated to his work not wanting to jeopardize that or more importantly his health. “To keep the body in good health is a duty, otherwise we shall not be able to keep our mind strong and clear.”
-Buddha

The Noise In The Walls @ 02/28/2012 at 12:22 pm

I agree Rebecca..well said…#277
Alot of “Film Projects” start at these Oscar and Globe events..networking is a major part of their jobs…in order to get a “job” or project in line..Gerry looked Great..I wish him well in his future endevors and whatever issue he has or had..will be resolved…All this speculation..is merely that..specualtion..None of us Know who Gerry truly is…We see a “persona” of him..Every now and then a small “glimpse”…I wish him the very best..He’s truly ‘Living the Dream”

@mailbumillie:
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That is an interesting question you ask IMO. Dr. Drew is about educating like Dr. Oz. Because the format is all Dr. Drew’s he can really ask anything or approach whichever subject if he feels it is timely, educational and it doesn’t hurt if it adds to the viewship. Because Dr. Drew’s specialty is addiction and recovery, he seems the most knowledgable to tackle these subjects due to his years of practice.
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So I guess my answer would be yes… Sometimes it just takes someone starting the conversation for change to find it’s wings.

@redOctober:
LOL! The Russian site is my favorite site. It has a way of organizing pictures that’s so easy to follow in spite of not speaking any Russian.
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@GFW:
“Yes, frazzled indeed. Hope he left soon after. Kind of obvious the was crashing in that photo possibly simply not into it at all by that point. He’d hit his saturation point.”
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Really, how can you make such determination from a picture? I don’t think it’s fair of you to say he’s carshing. If he were crashing it means he was drugging a few hours before, which means the rehab wasn’t successful. The high leads to a crash. Please be careful not to throw conclusions around.

When I said he was frazzeld i menat he had an empty look on his face. Maybe he wasn’t into taking fan pictures just wanting to enjoy the night. Maybe he was tired and ready to go.
Who knows what he was feeling at that point to render that face?

@Rebecca:
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Sorry but I can’t agree with your comment. Is the next project/networking at parties in environments you should be avoiding as important as sobriety? Absolutely not. A job should never take priority over health and well-being in my book. :)

@Rebecca:
Rebecca, nice post!
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A good chance was he was bored inside and could have timed his BFC visit with it ending so he could attend this and manage to handle it? That’s my take on it. That and he was proud, felt good, in control and wanted everyone to see that (us) and feel the love of those who were there to see him as well!
~K

@Reviews:
Did you actually look at it? Please do that again. Besides it was just my opinion, as I believe same like you [you did mention the word frazzled??], I’m allowed?
~K
who thinks the weeks away from the toxic pool of users, needers, enablers, demanders and negativity did him wonders hoping he can continue on away from whatever triggered his usage after all… as I think that’s the problem

Yours…
“When I said he was frazzeld i menat he had an empty look on his face. Maybe he wasn’t into taking fan pictures just wanting to enjoy the night. Maybe he was tired and ready to go.”
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In so many words I feel we shared the same sentiments.

Mine…
He’s, frazzled indeed. Hope he left soon after. Kind of obvious the was crashing in that photo possibly simply not into it at all by that point. He’d hit his saturation point.”
~K

Here is a clip where Dr. Drew does a good job explaining the basics of addiction. For those of us not as well informed about the addict brain, this is a pretty clear explanation.
http://drdrew.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/15/pill-popping-rx-for-death/?hpt=dr_t3
I also like how he explains why it is so important for an addict to stay clear of people and places that enable.

@Manny:
“The other big thing about proper sleep is the emotional ability to cope. If you are sleep deprived you will feel more anxious, have a hard time concentrating, and depressive feelings will come to the forefront.”
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Exactly, you’d feel groggy and irritated, and not be nice to the people around you. It’s not pleasant being around a groggy person.
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@Dr Sleep – that’s a bunch of nonsense. The body has a way of protecting itself. You cannot survive on 4 hours of sleep in perpetuity. If you only get 4 hours of sleep or less continually, after a few days your body will crash and you’d get the strong need to go to sleep. As soon as you can go to sleep that night you will, forgoing all your other bodily needs like eating dinner in favor of just going to bed. You wouldn’t even wait for your usual sleep time to go to bed. You’d just want to go to sleep. It becomes your number one physical need. That night you will get a full night of sleep. People mistakenly call it catching up on sleep. There is no such thing as catching up on sleep. It just means that your body is tired and need some extra rest than what it usually gets.
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Another thing. 6 hours of sleep is not enough for most people, although you could function on that. Most people need to get 7-81/2 of sleep a night. Unfortunately, during the week most people only get 6 hours of sleep that by the time the weekend rolls around they are exhausted. That’s why you see most people getting an extra 2 hours of sleep on weekends. People call it catching up, but that’s not what it is. To catch up on the deficit you’d have to get 10 hours extra in addition to the sleep hours that you need for the day in which you’re catching up. Basically, the catching up is just a lot of hype. Our body is remarkable at protecting and re-setting itself.

Feel more responsibility might be what he craves? Maybe even needs. Attend more charity events. Go back to Haiti? Visit his Slumdog money recipients? Check on them, progress? A pilgrimage to Nepal? Mongolia? He’s too free. No strings! His choices have choices and all his choices make him change his mind!
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I say bring Lolita back to his LA place and get her to the vet, on the beach, in the park, in his backpack for a bike ride! I say stick it out with her for a spell keeping in touch through gadgets but attending therapy, gym, acupuncturist, reading up on herbal compounds that restrict cravings! Might get back into this at the story! Herbal teas too, they work wonders: peppermint tea!
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Getting massages, attending Dr. Amen clinics on addictions.;o) When our mind’s are good, so are we!
~K

redOctober @ 02/28/2012 at 1:14 pm

@Reviews:

They update the site with photos and news very often . I don’t read nor write Russian either but after looking through their pages for a while I can now understand some words and names.

@Reviews:
You called him frazzled. I’d venture to guess that was a rendering?
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Now that you’ve opened your mouth, I can see why you get constant negative thumbs links or not.
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You, like many here, point figures at problems focusing on the negative what he shouldn’t be doing but offer no solutions!
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But the opposite of that is I get negative thumbs for offering solutions… or direction/guidance (Dr. Amen) thinking he needs to focus on what comes between him and what he truly wants in life, that barrier then tear it down because the treadmill lifestyle is taking him nowhere slow.
~K

Dr Drew is all about sensationalizing celebrity and notorious people’s lives. He was much better at helping people when he was on MTV years ago. Now that he’s on HLN, I am not impressed with him. They sensationalize everything for rating. It’s the same format as E and TMZ. They all try to have rating and make money on celebrities’ expense. Analyzing celebrities is another offshoot business of show biz. The problem with addiction is that no one can help you unless you make the decision to change your life. No amount of convincing or tough love helps. I think the best thing against addiction is prevention. Educating young adults on the dangers of substance abuse. Of course with celebrities they seem all to be predisposed for addiction. Maybe it’s the creative mind. Or maybe it’s the lifestyle that sends you looking for comfort, relaxation, and solace in mind-altering substance. Whatever it is, Dr Drew is not the answer on Gerry or anyone else.
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That said, I think we don’t know what’s going on with him to make arbitrary verdicts about his situation, past or present. I think we need to wait to see what else is going to happen in the near future. He might speak about it and shed some light on himself. He is not big on revealing himself but sometimes he surprises us and does it. I am hoping he will for this situation.

One positive change can have a ripple effect so says a mission-minded heart, me!
http://www.ca.org/
http://www.ca.org/12and12.html
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Just feel his showing up at the Vanity Affair party was, well an vanity affair… with himself! He looked ‘smokin’ hot’ and wanted the world to see it… they did. Feel the likes of Jessica, everyone, was very open armed. I bet he got tons of hugs. Jason Bateman made him laugh too!
~K

~K

@GFW:
I think you’re out of your mind. I disagreed with you once and now you are frazzled lol. It’s called debate, not a fight.
Maybe you should go see a DR so he can help you lean to get along with people?
You have addressed me 4 times concerning my comment to you.
Take a chill.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzXw6qQfaO0&feature=youtu.be&a
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The brunette with Alan and Gerry when they arrived. That’s the same brunette from last year.

@GF:
Good try. So not a “GF” and even you know that. Besides right now that is, or should be, the last thing on his mind… a relationship. Something to get better for? Sure. But he needs to clean up, stay clean for a good while first… in my opinion.
@Reviews:
Have a nice day. But I’m right about you. Why don’t you go back to being silent? I liked you better then. ;o)
~K, not frazzled just at lunch and rushing! Cheers!

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@Logic:
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Kind of think a lot of the anger toward him is fear. Fear of losing him. Fear he could get tampered or tainted substances because some sick people are out there who are jealous of him.
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Since what we think about comes about I try not think like that. Just the opposite! Just too many close calls too close together for my (personal) liking so something is off-balance it seems and he needs to be more in charge of his own destiny. He hasn’t fulfilled his purpose(s) yet.
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Fact is, he’s mortal. He’s not Peter Parker. He’ll not Hellboy. He’s flesh and blood… a man. And he’s a man with a good heart. I have a lot of respect for him, even with all things considered.
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Feel, somehow, all that happens happens for a reason. What reason this? That, like a lot in his life, isn’t up to me (or us) but to him to know or figure out. Again, with men, now is all that matters. That said, I have a lot of faith in him. I believe he can kick whatever he needs to. I respect his time spent at the BFC, it couldn’t have been easy.
~K
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PS, Feel poisonous playmates makes some valid points… and they offer solutions full of concern but praise him too who when I said what I did about Ari got sand-blasted… who’s glad he’s very busy now… but was part of this last year when he was hanging with his “friends” the surfer dudes… he was (I think)

Crazy Wench @ 02/28/2012 at 2:11 pm

@GFW:
Maybe you should take your own advice and shut up once and for all?
People think you’re nuts.

@Crazy Wench:
Seriously, do you really think I care what people think about me? I think, while you’re being so judgmental, your name matches your personality. Have a nice day!
~K

question? @ 02/28/2012 at 2:22 pm

@Dr. Sleep:
“He looks good on the red carpet because of makeup and stylists and he’s an actor, they know how to turn it on when called for. Check out the photo of him just a few hours later.”
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What pictures are talking about? Were there pictures of him the next day?

Can'tGetEnough @ 02/28/2012 at 2:30 pm

Good Afternoon JJer’s! Interesting discussions the past few days!
Here is another set of pics from the GB Russian site:

http://gbutler.ru/photos/vanity-fair-oscar-party-4/

@GF:
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That looks like Joy his LA based publicist. Sheeeesh…

Can'tGetEnough @ 02/28/2012 at 2:33 pm

Tweet posted today:

Beast Mode Soccer™ ‏ @BeastModeSoccer
LA is so weird. Had a nice chat with Gerard Butler at the #fieldofdreams

@Manny:
lol that’s not Joy. This girl is much younger than Joy.

question? @ 02/28/2012 at 2:40 pm

@Can’tGetEnough:
who is the girl with Gerry in the last picture?

Thanks to those for posting all the great video and pics!

@Can’tGetEnough:
Saw that look in 2005 (?) in the back of a limo leaving an event. He’s working on it. He is.
~K

A “blind item” from CDAN today. Would explain the Rehab…
When this reality housewife was sharing the details about her sex week with this A list movie star. What she forgot to mention was that the reason was it lasted an entire week or weekend was because it took almost that long for the actor to get ready to perform. Our Housewife was very imaginative in thinking of new ways to make him performance ready but the drugs really made that difficult.

I can’t imagine GB nor his people would appreciate Dr. Drew discussing him on that show last night. I wondered if maybe they called the lawyers out and had them call the producers. I wouldn’t blame him if he did.

@WF:
If this is true, it proves he doesn’t have as much sex as we think. People who do drugs are not into it as much. They are more interested in getting their next fix. So I guess, he doesnt pick up as much as we think, which explains Brandi. She was there willing and able, an easy lay. Not anyhting more. Doesn’t even mean Brandi is his type.

God Bless yoou all! @ 02/28/2012 at 3:24 pm

“The temptations in your life are no different from what others experience. And God is faithful. He will not allow the temptation to be more than you can stand. When you are tempted, he will show you a way out so that you can endure.” 1 Corinthians 10:13

Dark Knight @ 02/28/2012 at 3:43 pm

Those photos linked by “Can’tGetEnough” aren’t from Gerry going into rehab, they are from when he was in London promoting Coriolanus and after the Graham Norton chat show, just so you know!

@WF:
Then how did she score him an “11″ after she blabbed and sold her story like poor desperate white trailer trash?? Just askin’?
~K

@Dark Knight:
so he wasn’t doing well at the Graham Norton show. We thought that he looked bad only after leaving The Box. The whole period he was in london it seems wasn’t a good period for him.
Maybe that’s why he left Scotland so fast???

just visiting @ 02/28/2012 at 3:58 pm

So who are we to believe? the blind item which more or less infers that Gerry was a dud and couldn’t get it up OR Brandi who we actually saw and heard say that she had a week of fun with Gerry and scored him an 11 out of 10 on the performance scale.

The CDAN item just sounds like more supposition IMO.

Dark Knight @ 02/28/2012 at 4:02 pm

@question:
My comment was just to address the fact that the article in the link seemed to imply that those photos were of him going into rehab, which they aren’t.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:04 pm

Today on the View, Mary J. Blige talked about her problems with addiction and she stated that she knew that she had to change her environment before she could get better. She was using coke and would actually go out late at night looking for a fix. It seems it’s more common in stardom then we realize. She said it also affected her work and decision making processes.
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She said she did it all without the help of rehab but she’s strong willed. Even admitting you have the problem and seeking the help shows strength. At least Gerry doesn’t seem to be in denial.
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I agree with her about people who come in to your life and don’t care about you and get you what you want as long as they get a paycheck or benefit in some ways. She also says she sought out people who were addicts too to hang with.
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Gerry needs to revamp his social circles no doubt. There’s an element in there that’s fed in to this and Gerry needs to distance himself from these people. I don’t know who they are but they are toxic in his life and unless they go away, I fear he’ll slip back and the outcome might not be good the next time.
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But we all need someone stronger then us who is not afraid to stand up and give a little tough love. We’re not always going to be strong on our own so having the right people around, people who really care about you and not how they will benefit from your relationship.
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He even commented once about the reason he started smoking again last year was because he was around “a friend” who was smoking and got back in to the habit. That’s not a good sign. That might just have been a “hint” of who was around him at the time and might have caused the problem to get worse.

@GFW:
You’re such a simple-minded person and that explains your babblings on this site.
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Do you believe everything people say or write?
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People say self-serving stuff. Hardly anything is said for the plain sake of truth anymore.
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She was trying to drum up the drama. If she would have said he wasn’t good in bed, people would have either called her a sour puzz, a woman scorned, accused her of kissing and telling (at least now people are not as upset with her for kissing and telling since she was complementary to him), or she would have risked turning Gerry into a foe. What for? It’s possible they didn’t even do it. Maybe all they did is do drugs together, not that this is any better than fuucking Brandi, but the point is we don’t know what is really true, propagandized, faked, or lied about.
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Do you think I really think Gerry is an 11 just because Brandi said so?
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Do you think I think he was abusing cocaine just because TMZ said so?
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Do you think I think he fuucks like a rabbit just because the tabloids say so?
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Do you think I think he spent a whole week with Brandi just because she said as?
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Do you think I think he is darting this woman or that woman just because the tabloids say they seemed cozy at some party?
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I don’t know what to believe. That’s why I take everything in with a grain of salt. Unless I see proof, I just take it as hearsay.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:06 pm

@GFW:

Maybe he’s quite “skilled” at other endeavors, if you know what I mean!

@just visiting:
And I definitely don’t believe or disbelieve the Canadian item.
I was just playing the devil’s advocate.
The point is we don’t know if something is true, embellished, or purely fiction.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:18 pm

Why did I get a neg thumb for my post about Mary J. Blige? There are some weirdos that hang around this place who wouldn’t know their azz from applebutter!

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:22 pm

You know if I’m going to give someone a “thumbs down” I at least back it up with a statement, either directly to the person or in general. I don’t just hit and run like a coward. However, I have a couple of people here I give thumbs down to before even reading their posts because they’re always saying the same old crap and remarking on it seems useless. I’m realistic enough to know that sometimes you just can’t fix stupid, or crazy for that matter.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:27 pm

Also, I am generous with the thumps up too, if I’m feeling it and I may comment or agree verbally. But at least have the balls to follow up your neg thumb with your rebuttal at least once, otherwise it’s pretty meaningless and rather cowardly.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:33 pm

@GF:

Was the same one that was with him last year, eh? Sounds werious! Wonder what she thought about the whole Brandi Glanville thing?

@Stormyweather:
Don’t let the thumbs upset you. They don’t make any sense anyway.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:35 pm

I mean “serious”!

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:37 pm

@Info:

I think what is upsetting about it is when you get them for saying something that is almost common knowledge and not an opinion so much. Like today is Tuesday and you get a neg thumb! Must be the drug addicts hanging around the site who are so in denial they don’t even know the day of the week!

A modified blog story comment very recently by a long-time male reader…
I’ve always felt you know you’re really care when the person who cares has seen you at your worst and doesn’t run away.
~K, that’s me, that’s what I believe… and they’re right, they’re always right

@Stormyweather:
GF will come back, you watch, Brooke-style to insist she’s his RL GF and they’ve been sneaking about secretly! Watch… you’ll see.
~K

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:47 pm

@GFW:

Does the fact that the reader is male make that statement more valid?

@Stormyweather:
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Welcome to JJ. You can be negged to oblivion and three posts later lauded for a post. :)

I couldn’t watch the Oscars, no sound on my (very) old TV (just for that channel), and wondered if Michael Fassbender there? He was really good in his films this year.
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Felt the whole red carpet part was SO boring. The worst ever. I didn’t even see people ON the red carpet watching E! They kept showing the people at the table talking about the same 6 (?) people’s dresses?
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Feel what that nutcase did to Bryan was really bad… really damped the mood for it all. Next year might be better! Hope Gerry gets a nomination for Of Men & Mavericks! Hell, he should!
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Also I can’t believe he is addicted to one thing because of how he could surf so well? Don’t think he could focus like he did if he were. JMO. Feel it’s exaggerated is all. It’s more for the painkillers. Now to build up those lower-back muscles and ease him off the stronger stuff. It can happen. And stress, stress (I think) settles in his lower back.
~K
http://us.mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 4:58 pm

@Manny:

The one that bothers me most is where I suggested that Gerry might be particularly well skilled in certain aspects of his sexual prowess. I would think it would please a few around here! Guess not!

@Stormyweather:
Sometimes, the comments that make the most sense get the most negs. It seems that there is a lot of jealousy. They are jealous you said something with common sense, so they thumb you down. They don’t want you to get high thumbs God forbid. A lot of the bad behavior here stems from pure jealousy.
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Also some of the Gerry bashing, I have said many times, stem from jealousy. People don’t sympathize with someone that appears to have everything – money, fame, and good looks – because they think he is nothing like them, so they seek to bring such a person down. Truth is, he has more in common with them than they think. Such people have as much personal problems as regular folks, and in the end, we all need the same things to survive, be happy, and have a good life. And….. we all have an expiration date. It’s not as if people like Gerry can live forever while we have a limit. We are all the same. All we have to do is figure out what we need to be happy, and it’s not necessarily fame, or money. How many famous people can’t be happy despite, the glitter, fame, money, etc…? Why? Because happiness is an emotional thing connected to the spiritual. It’s not connected to tangible things. Don’t judge someone just because you think they are spoiled and rich.

@GFW:
You nut, this year’s Oscars was one of the best they had in years. They had an almost 5% increase in viewership. Audiences seemed to like the films chosen this year, and they also liked that Billy Crystal was back.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/27/hollywood-and-the-oscars-surprise-with-celebration-of-traditional-values.html
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I hope this trend continues. Also, Gerry’s next few projects are very patriotic. This might help him get at least nominated.

“I’m selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can’t handle me at my worst, then you sure as he/ll don’t deserve me at my best”…… Marilyn Monroe. Great quote.

@GFW:
“Also I can’t believe he is addicted to one thing because of how he could surf so well? Don’t think he could focus like he did if he were. JMO. Feel it’s exaggerated is all. It’s more for the painkillers.”
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At least here you make sense. I totally agree.

Really..... @ 02/28/2012 at 5:09 pm

@Logic:
and what does it have to do with gerry?

Cnoc Mhor @ 02/28/2012 at 5:09 pm

@Stormyweather: …”Must be the drug addicts hanging around the site who are so in denial they don’t even know the day of the week”…that’s a bit harsh isn’t it??…to suggest that those who are negging are druggies who are also dummies??…you know I was agreeing with you up to that point on some of what you were saying regarding the thumbs! I don’t get thumbing down people who are just posting links for example but I do understand some folks wanting to neg when they disagree with a post or if people are insulting others. Now, not everyone wants to leave lurkdom to respond to posts on these GB threads. Actually it can be quite daunting considering the amount of backlash you could wind up being subjected to for having a different opinion. The neg thumbsies happened to me on my strong opinion of GB’s leaving rehab and running to parties all within a very short period of time etc. I was negged heavily last thread for stating my views and I felt bad about it for a bit because naturally one likes to think others can see one’s point of view, understand it and if not agree with it then hopefully disagree respectfully. I can’t complain in this case though as people just negged and didn’t attack, unfortunately some don’t just neg, they attack and really get nasty. It’s too bad but it seems to just be the way here…the only thing I really wish you didn’t write in your post was the assumption about “druggies”…as a former substance abuser who has negged posts I disagreed with and not written explanations on GB threads for the most part, I am happy to say that I am NOT a coward and certainly not because I didn’t have the time or inclination to explain each time I have negged and by the way I do know today is Tuesday and I think many others who walked and are walking a similar walk do as well:) Hope you are having a happy Tuesday!

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 5:12 pm

@GFW:

Who’s Bryan?
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@Info:

I agree with a lot of what you say and it makes me mindful of the fact that Gerry was once very unhappy with his life and went in to a self destructive mode! Now perhaps his life isn’t making him as happy as he thought it would because he doesn’t understand that it’s not money and fame and women that make you happy. Happiness is something that comes from within, not without. Self destructive people can repeat their patterns if they don’t get some therapy or at least have healthy people in their lives.
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I wish they would have never brought up the “c” word and just stuck with the prescription drug addiction. Those can kill ya but I’ll bet coke is easier to get in a pinch, especially in HW.

@Really…..:

It was in response to the male reader that GFW was talking about. The quotes have a similar meaning. Also, is it not obvious how it refers to Gerard Butler? Or anyone really?

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 5:20 pm

@Cnoc Mhor:

It was a joke but I apologize if I offended anyone. And I never refer to anyone as a “druggie”. You can be an addict of just about anything, not just drugs. Your drug of choice can be gambling or spending but it’s the denial that’s the bad thing and at least Gerry seems to have a handle on his problem.

Really..... @ 02/28/2012 at 5:22 pm

@Logic:
“Also, is it not obvious how it refers to Gerard Butler? Or anyone really?”
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No, becasue we don’t know who Gerry is. The only thing this quote tellm me is how Marilyn Monroe is, or was when she was alive.

My apologies, it of course doesn’t refer to anyone, but herself. But it can be applied to anyone ya? I personally feel that way and I’m sure many other do too.

@Info

Wonderful, intelligent post! That’s what’s bad about the internet – the constant bashing and horrible things people say in the privacy of their homes or wherever. Also, people often assume so many things about Gerard that they truly don’t have a clue about. We only hear bits and pieces about him and see a few pictures of him but none of us truly know what’s going on in his life.

@Really…..:

Sh/it some of you can search for a fault with anything and anyone can’t u? Good lord.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 5:43 pm

Besides making what appears to be a bad joke on my part, JJ seems to be taking full advantage of the possibility of lurkers who might have addiction issues with the advertisements around the page for rehab and doctors.
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Personally, I have many abusers/addicts in my family from alcohol to spending to sex. You see them kick one and pick up another. No matter what you say or do or try to convey to them, their denial that they have a problem is always that it’s YOU who has the problem. They can always just have one or two drinks and believe they’re in control or charge up an expensive piece of jewelry just to hock next month because they’re broke and nothing you have to say about it is valid. And it’s not idiocy. They’re not dumb by any stretch. They really do believe Tuesday is Wednesday (which is a metaphor by the way) and they’ll go down fighting for it!
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I admire anyone who is a recovering addict of any kind and I don’t minimalize it but please understand what you put the people through on the receiving end of things too and I don’t need a lecture on it. Living with a substance abuser is harder then being the one addicted. Trust me on this!

@Rebecca:
I try my best to bring some common sense. It’s not always well received but whatever. I try.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 6:07 pm

Here’s a good example. My sis, God love her, spends money like she has it. She’s on a disability income! At one time when she was more flush with a good job and enough money to live quite comfortably, she mortgaged her house so many times to get the equity out that she’s unside down on it now and had to claim bankruptcy and was out looking at jewelry the other day to make herself “feel better”. I was at a loss for words with her and she sensed my anger then got angry herself at my lack of understanding. She’s hocked every piece of our Mother’s jewelry and she doesn’t see her problem. Those were family keepsakes!
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This is a woman who during the “Beanie Baby” craze, as you all may remember, would buy four and five of the same Beanies, spending hundreds of dollars per Beanie and she just called herself a “collector”. I kept asking her what she was going to do when the craze cooled? She would just smile!
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She has two hutches full of them now sitting in her living room, probably four to five hundred of them. At a mere six dollars a piece, she would have thousands of dollars worth of Beanie Babies but she paid hundreds of dollars for a few of them! You do the math!
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I thought at the time, since she made decent money, that if it made her happy, so what? I didn’t see at the time she was addicted to it.
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So her drug of choice was acquiring these things that would give her that brief “high” for a moment. That quick fix.
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She barely gets by now and you have no idea how heavy it weighs on my mind and my heart that one day she’ll tell me she’s loosing her house! She even sometimes says she doesn’t care if she lives or dies and no matter how much I try to show her I care and I’m there for her, it doesn’t seem enough. The closer I try to pull her in, the more she tries to just take advantage of me by asking to borrow money! Yes, that’s what an addict does! They want your help but they want you to enable them or you don’t love them!
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I bought her groceries one month because she was so bad off it was scary. I was so angry with her when she talked about giving milk to her dogs that I had bought her! That was milk for her consumption and a luxury for the dogs! It infuriated me so bad, I’m afraid to buy her anything else!
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I know addiction but just another face of it and believe me it hurts and it nags at you and you worry about it way more then the addict does.
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So for the addicts that lurk here, I admire you for your bravery in getting clean and getting real with yourself but you need to realize what you do and have done to the people who care about you. It’s not all about YOU as the addict.

@Stormyweather:
I think I agree with GFW on this. It’s hard to believe he’s addicted to one thing or another because of how he could surf so well, and how he could focus like he does on his work. He has a one-track mind. druggies are all over the place. I think she is right. it’s painkillers for his injuries, and it’s a bit exaggerated. He was afraid it will turn into a problem eventually, so he checked himself in. He recognized it himself, way before his career could be impacted by this. Good for him. That’s the actions of a responsible person, not a drug addict who doesn’t care about anything except his next fix.
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Soon he’ll start filming a new film and we’ll have a chance to follow him through all the fan pictures, tweets, FB comments, tabloid pictures, weekend-off traveling, and the rest of his escapades. We might gain some more insight. And, also, he might speak about this situation in interviews, and that could also shed light on his state these last few months. We’ll have to wait and see where all this is going to lead.

YoGabbaGabba @ 02/28/2012 at 6:36 pm

Dr. Drew may have been a reputable doctor once, but these days he’s no different or better than Perez Hilton. He’s always talking about the problems famous people have to put attention on himself, even when they’re problems that no one is talking about. He went off about how Kim Kardashian was a domestic abuser in her relationship with Kris Whatshisname. He was speculating last night about how Angelina Jolie may require hospitalization, and has predicted in the past that she and Brad will break up and that the emotional reaction will be “nuclear.” He also said that Angelina Jolie looks like a heroine addict once. And Jesus, he’s involved in reality TV with that Celebrity Rehab monstrosity. What kind of reputable doctor uses people’s addictions to get attention on a television show? What kind of reputable doctor thinks that the drama and pressure of reality television will support someone’s recovery from addiction? I wouldn’t believe a word that he said about anyone, including Gerard Butler. Whatever Dr. Drew says is to promote himself.
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And why does anyone pay any attention to CDAN blind items? The front page of that website says:
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“THE SITE PUBLISHES RUMORS, CONJECTURE, AND FICTION. IN ADDITION TO ACCURATELY REPORTED INFORMATION, CERTAIN SITUATIONS, CHARACTERS AND EVENTS PORTRAYED IN THE BLOG ARE EITHER PRODUCTS OF THE AUTHOR’S IMAGINATION OR ARE USED FICTITIOUSLY.”
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CDAN itself states that its blind items may be totally made up. I’m not saying that G isn’t engaged in some illicit activities. He may or may not be. Gotta be with him to know anything he does. But when a gossip site tells me freely and clearly that they intentionally make s.h.!.t. up, I’m not going to ignore that and believe what they say is true.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 6:41 pm

@Info:

I’m not sure why you are addressing me about agreeing with GFW? However, since you brought it up, I don’t remember anywhere anything stating about how good a surfer he was but if he was pretty good as a novice, the drugs could have helped that. I know athletes competing are drug tested for performance enhancing drugs so I don’t know which ones would help and which would hinder.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 6:47 pm

@YoGabbaGabba:

Seems it’s all about the money. People selling out for the almighty dollar. Sad.

@Stormyweather:
He is not a good surfer, just a novice. But, even as a novice, I can’t see him performing, surfing, or doing any type of activity that requires motor ability while on coke.
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Performance enhancing drugs are not the same as coke. They don’t hinder your motor abilities like coke, alcohol, or painkillers do. They might fool around with your mood or reproductive system, which makes them unhealthy, but they don’t hinder motor abilities. They enhance your performance which is why they are illegal to use within competitive sports. Athletes that takes them before competition are cheaters.

If there’s anything Gerard Butler should be treated for it’s sex addiction.
I don’t understand how his fans can like him so much when he is such a promiscuous person. Don’t they think he is gross with all this sleeping around, sometimes (often?) with women half his age? How can you find such a man likeable??

@Jennie:

It makes him more attainable to them.

@Jennie:
I like it that he’s so sexy.
liking sex is not a disease. It means he is a red-blooded male.
I’ll take that any day over drug addiction which is a medical problem.

gertiewoodring @ 02/28/2012 at 7:22 pm

Im glad that ur back and that u had the strenght to get help! U look well rested baby good luck stay strong. xx,oo

dargabriel @ 02/28/2012 at 7:34 pm

Gerard is about God and of course the greater good of humanity. He is a good soul a very spiritually intelligent being. This is all speculation, he knows very well how to shut things down, he does not get tangled in negativity. Just wait, he will address all this, but only when people stop squelling, although butler really doesn’t owe anybody anything, he will prove that he is a lot mightier then people think. Back problems really, as I’ve said way back, many, many threads ago, butler is healed from the inside out, he’s never sick or in pain, he is mighty force, spiritually speaking, don’t let his mask fool you. I do know this, butler is a great trickster, no matter what the cost is and he will build on the gossip, anotherwards, he’s sitting back laughing @ all of this, as he’s said ” I’m letting them run with it, **** they’ve got to make money too”. These words I speak are from this golden heart, so have fun with it and just know butler is great, he sends his love and laughter to all of you. Take a very close look @ butler’s eyes, you will see he is in two different places, one eye is very distant, yet the other is @ his present place. Something to think about. Butler spends more time then understood, in his spiritual space, practices this on a daily basis, he works in the paranormal for God, he works 24/7. I’m asking for Gerard to let people off the hook, I think some have learned a lesson about buying into fake stories. We will have to see if his stubborness will allow this to happen, rebel butler.

malibumillie @ 02/28/2012 at 7:42 pm

@Info: I first have to respectfully opine that some people are overrating Mr. Butler’s surfing skills. The reality is as well is that the surfing crowd tends to be a very hard partying crowd and they are hitting dangerous waves all the time.

There are many addicts, whether it’s alcohol or prescription drugs or illicit substances that can appear to be high functioning for years but it all catches up with you sooner or later. Many elite athletes are addicts or on their way to becoming one.

Look at Michael Jackson in that documentary. I was shocked by how in control he seemed. His memory was sharp he was doing demanding physical dance routines. Yet this man had enough drugs in his house to open a pharmacy. Though they didn’t show us all the footage on the days when Michael was not so on top of his game. And that is the other part of the equation, addicts often have people covering for them.

I have to repeat again, appearances are so often deceiving.

@LOL:
If you had seen him and the way he acted with some very young girls at the Ischia Film Festival in 2005 you wouldn’t think it was “so sexy”. It was actually quite disturbing to watch.

@Reviews: Reviews thanks for the Vanity Fair photos – he looks quite handsome.

I noticed lots of discussion about botox; however, after seeing the photos from Coogie’s – his face was really red – it’s how I look after I get a facial then it even outs and just glows with healthy skin – mayhaps a facial the day before the event. Botox seems interesting but he can move both his forehead and between his eyes shown in the photos that Reviews posted. Nice crinkles! Whatever makes anyone feel better!

He’s got bigger issues that worrying about wrinkles. Hope everyone has a great 29 FEB – Leap Year!

Autumn

curious cat @ 02/28/2012 at 7:46 pm

@me:

Excuse me, ME, are you sayin’ what GB really did was go have cosmetic surgery, not drug rehab? That in HW it’s less embarassing to admit to drug rehab than a facelift or Botox? Just askin’ what you meant.

curious cat @ 02/28/2012 at 7:47 pm

@oy:

OY! You’re not gone. And sharp as ever! Aloha.

@Jennie:
You know he can’t win for nothing. During Ischia Film Festival in 2005 he was rumored to be hitting it with an older married woman. Now you are telling me it was actually with underage girls, which is it? How many rumors are there surrounding this man? Some of you need to stop listening to hearsay and rumor, and some of you need to stop letting your mind run away with you coming up with crazy sh!t to explain this guy. There is no picture or any story that I remember of him with underage girls at Film Festival in 2005 so from where are you getting this? Please bring proof before you make accusations.

curious cat @ 02/28/2012 at 7:56 pm

@Please:

Oh, please, please, please, we veterans on these sites have heard it all before a gazillion times. If anyone says anything even slightly critical of this man, the worshippers say “he must have rejected you.” As if anyone on these threads probably ever met him.

curious cat @ 02/28/2012 at 8:01 pm

@Please:

No no no please. You are riding on the Phannie horse and won’t give up.

@curious cat: Mahalo CCat! Nice to see you here! I definitely know if he had a mini-lift there’d be scars – just saw a woman in my hair salon this Saturday who had one 3 weeks ago – wow the scars scarred me from ever having that done.

BUT i think each person should do what makes them happy!

I just use lots of moisturizer and stay our of the sun – aging gracefully!

Take care and it’s nice to see your posts.

Autumn

curious cat @ 02/28/2012 at 8:05 pm

@niknoks:

You are always a trouper, Nikkie. The only reason I didn’t get pummeled on the last thread is that it ended. I think I had the last comment.You talk sense.

curious cat @ 02/28/2012 at 8:12 pm

I just skimmed through 4 of 15 pages here and believe I have never seen so many hidden comments. If the fighting has already started by page 2 or so and half the comments are hidden already because they are so spiteful, sorry, I have better things to do but know I won’t be missed in this fray. Nice to see you, Oy, surprised you are still around.

@LOL:
I don’t know anything about an older woman. I only know what I saw with my own eyes. I was staying at the same hotel as Gerard, the Isabella Regina.

facereality @ 02/28/2012 at 8:26 pm

@Jennie: How young are we talking about? Was there an “ick” factor?

@Jennie:
so you saw him hitting on young girls with your own 2 eyes?
and how young were they?

@facereality:
The ones I saw him with, flirting with and so on, looked really young but it’s hard to tell exactly how old. I spoke to two of the girls, one was 17, the other 21. They had spent some…time…with Gerard in the pool the night before. I can honestly say that the girls I saw him make contact with were all much too young for him, mid to late teens and very early 20′s. It’s hard to explain but he behaved in a total different way when he talked to women who were older than, well, let’s say mid 20′s. It was like he instantly became more “off”, I don’t know what other word to use in English.
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There was a man with him most of the time, a shorter dark haired man, and it seemed that this man actually had to literally drag Gerard away from some of the young women when his behaviour became a little “too much”. With the younger girls Gerard became all giggly, touchy-feely, and I would say… creepy. I was young myself but I know I found it weird the way he acted. There were so many beautiful women there, his own age and little younger, but he seemed totally uninterested in them. He was polite but not flirty in any way.

facereality @ 02/28/2012 at 9:22 pm

@Jennie: Gross. And creepy. That dark haired guy is with him all the time. Did the guy with him have a “pageboy” type haircut and was he alot shorter? (Well, come to think of it, if it was a long while ago, forget the pageboy cut, lol).

@Jennie:
he was also 35 then so not as old as he is now.
a girl 21-23 was about 14-12 years younger. it’s not that bad. Bianca was 12 years younger.

@facereality:
that was probably Alan, if her story is even true.

Info @ 02/28/2012 at 6:36 pm

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@Stormyweather:
I think I agree with GFW on this. It’s hard to believe he’s addicted to one thing or another because of how he could surf so well, and how he could focus like he does on his work. He has a one-track mind. druggies are all over the place. I think she is right. it’s painkillers for his injuries, and it’s a bit exaggerated. He was afraid it will turn into a problem eventually, so he checked himself in. He recognized it himself, way before his career could be impacted by this. Good for him. That’s the actions of a responsible person, not a drug addict who doesn’t care about anything except his next fix.
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Soon he’ll start filming a new film and we’ll have a chance to follow him through all the fan pictures, tweets, FB comments, tabloid pictures, weekend-off traveling, and the rest of his escapades. We might gain some more insight. And, also, he might speak about this situation in interviews, and that could also shed light on his state these last few months. We’ll have to wait and see where all this is going to lead.
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Fact. Contagion theory says crowds infect people in them. A mob mentality takes over. This place is much like that!
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SO, why not in the opposite effect for something GOOD?? Like how you got my point? It isn’t false, or I don’t feel so, I believe it. No one is up at 6am on a regular basis and (I think) he was who could be a druggie!
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Another fact. If Gerry doesn’t clean up, and stay clean, his career could suffer far worse than what all was happening in 2010 with the tabloid womanizing spiraling out of control. Besides if he wants a serious relationship to calm him down, he’d need to be clean for that too!
~K
who thinks we’ve some dried up sour grapes a little angry at Gerry’s past?

TheDoctorIsIn @ 02/28/2012 at 9:49 pm

Addiction-riddled narcissists need enablers in their lives to thrive — to that end, Butler’s in good steed.

Denial…not just a river in Egypt.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 10:17 pm

@TheDoctorIsIn:

Most celebs can find enablers very easily. They are in the position of getting what they want when they want it. That’s what makes it so dangerous.

facereality @ 02/28/2012 at 10:20 pm

@TheDoctorIsIn: Totally…er, I mean…No, you’re wrong. He’s just going through a rough patch with his back right now, and will move on and make Academy award-winning films, meet a wonderful woman (probably from this forum) who he will be utterly devoted to, and they will settle down in one of their homes, probably the one they will purchase in the Scottish Highlands, and have a couple of kids and live peacefully forevermore, out of the public eye and away from the cruel press, who just make up lies about innocent people.

Stormyweather @ 02/28/2012 at 10:32 pm

OK. I’ve had enough for a while of this sht. He’s gone from hopeless drug addict to pediphile now. When people can’t be conviced here how bad he is, then out come the obscure and distant past “sightings” of him being improper with some child. This place is toxic and I’ll not argue any further with people who want to carry on about things they know nothing about for some ungodly reason to destroy not only his character but that of his fans. They can all talk amongst themselves now.

Whatdoyathink? @ 02/28/2012 at 10:53 pm

@Jennie:
@facereality:
I’m sure you both were also outraged when a condom fell out of Zac Efron’s pocket at the premiere for the Lorax. What would he be doing with a condom in his pocket at a premiere where kids are? Your thoughts, oh wise ones!

YoGabbaGabba @ 02/28/2012 at 11:33 pm

Hey! I was at Ischia, too! I saw Gerard Butler there and he was hanging out with women of all ages because they kept approaching him. He amused them by flirting, but absolutely nothing happened with any of them. I know because I was one of the women on recliners by the pool very near to him. We got to know each other, I asked him if thought he’d ever get used to the attention. He said he didn’t think so, but that it was harmless and sometimes kind of funny.
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He then asked me to join him and a couple of other people that I could describe to you because they’ve been in a million pictures with him – Alan, that publicist guy, some of the friends that go everywhere with him. We had a great time and I spent the rest of my trip hanging out with all of them. I can assure you that while he may have indulged some of the women who were star-struck, he didn’t hook up with any of them. There was one woman there that he seemed interested in, but she was totally age appropriate.
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And this is a true story.
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{see how easy that is}

@YoGabbaGabba: LMAO! I wanna play!
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I saw Gerry in Canada! It was mountain shortly after a film festival and he had 5 snow bunnies with him, if you know what I mean. I happened to be the park ranger, so out of concern for the young girls’ welfare, I asked to see the girl’s IDs. I can attest that they were all at least 21. Oh yeah, and as proof, a shorter guy with dark hair that’s kind of like a Beatles haircut was with him and looked a little worried. But nothing happened. WAIT! I forgot, I think his dog got knocked up on that trip! Lots of feral dogs on the mountain.
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This too is a true story!!!!!!!!

YoGabbaGabba @ 02/28/2012 at 11:58 pm

@HeyNow: Oh yeah?
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Well I saw him once in a garden. I was naked. He did NOT look good. He was super skinny and way undermoisturized. His skin was covered in scales. He was super tall though, and once you get past the forked tongue – very seductive. He kept wanting me to take an apple from a particular tree in the garden and take a bite out of it. He wouldn’t shut up about it (he’s very gabby), so I just did it. Next thing I knew – I FELT naked, and noticed that the other dude I was with was naked. Then we got KICKED OUT of the garden by this big all powerful bouncer and it all went downhill from there.
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DAMN YOU AND YOUR APPLES GERARD BUTLER!!
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This is a true story.

@YoGabbaGabba: @HeyNow:
Thanks for proving a great point.
Anyone can come forward claiming things and using props like Alan, a little dog, and the rest of the usual suspects that hang out with him which anyone can sprinkle inside a story to make it believable. We really have to be careful regarding what we believe or risk making dupes of ourselves.

@YoGabbaGabba: “Well I saw him once in a garden. I was naked. He did NOT look good. He was super skinny and way undermoisturized. His skin was covered in scales. He was super tall though, and once you get past the forked tongue – very seductive. He kept wanting me to take an apple from a particular tree in the garden and take a bite out of it. He wouldn’t shut up about it (he’s very gabby), so I just did it. Next thing I knew – I FELT naked, and noticed that the other dude I was with was naked. Then we got KICKED OUT of the garden by this big all powerful bouncer and it all went downhill from there.
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DAMN YOU AND YOUR APPLES GERARD BUTLER!!”
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LMAO! I think I just peed my panties. JJ —– just end the thread here PLEASE. It’s not going to get better than this.

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 12:27 am

Does this JJ poster proud when WO complains about us being snarky and mean on their squawk box

well done girls well done take a bow

grab the kleenex OBND and Tartan won’t come here anymore, stomp stomp ( not as themselves anyway but as some sock to tear manny and pyscho a new one whenever they feel like it)

toodles and keep up the great work of noncensorship JJ ers

let free speech and free thought reign

trumpet f/a/rt and poof

@internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 12:34 am

I see what you did there, lol

You should sign their well wishes tag, I’m sure their “webmistress” would like your IP address.

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 12:56 am

oh my looks like WO and the fansites are here, run for the hills.
the little thumbsy gang is baaaaaack

WMD “IMB you will say nothing bad about phannies, or gerry berry or i am going to thumb you down mister”

OBND “bad bad brian” (thumbing madly)

doddi “why are they so mean”

tartan “don’t look back doddi, never go there again, promise me”

OBND “come lets go back to our weiner board, WMD will handle this mess”

WMD ” Brian i hear now banish you forever from having a mind of your own, drink this!!!”

IMB “no, i want to have my own thoughts, my own ideas, i will not follow the masses and conform…no..no gulp gulp …sputter sputter..”

IMB ” ugh, i feel woozy, oh gawd everything is rosie, i’m craving ben and gerry’s, i feel so lost and insecure, oh gerry he’s he’s so…….hot”

IMB ” i have this compulsion to find him now, right now, i’ll get on a plane or drive, where’s his next movie being filmed….yeah …that’s it i’ll go there, he will see me in the crowd and marry me….we will have kids and live in the Highlands…must go…goodbye JJ…..gerry i’m coming …..”

the end

I've got giggle bubbles.. @ 02/29/2012 at 1:12 am

@internetmasterbrian:
LMFAO @ #393
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I don’t know who you’re talking about, but that is some funny sh!t. Are people on those fansites really like that? What’s wrong with not thinking Gerry is the be all and end all of mankind? Anyway, thanks for the giggle!

Does WebmistressDiane know her intials are WMD?

LOL! too funny

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 1:32 am

Sorry can’t talk now girlies, heading to Alaska to wait for his next film to start…

i’ll take photos and upload them here ok?

bye, wish me luck,

Gerry i’m coming baby, maybe we can have a thre/esome with Sarah Palin

Men will be Men @ 02/29/2012 at 2:52 am

Below is proof. Therefore, stop judging Gerry so harshly. You can’t change male nature. Even the most innocent looking man loves sex, period.
http://www.newser.com/story/140602/stephen-hawking-over-the-moon-about-sex-club.html
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As women, I think we need to be understanding to male’s needs, just like we want them to be understanding to our needs. Dpn’t judge Gerry and any man too harshly because they ahve needs. Try to satisfy your man’s needs instead, and see him give you what you want.

Very very old story @ 02/29/2012 at 3:00 am

@Jennie: Gerry’s got a long history of messing around with young impressionable star struck women. He was sleeping with very young girls (teenagers) while shooting Game of their lives in St. Louis. I spoke with a girl whose brother worked on the set and Gerry seemed to have been a bit of a perv trying all the time too hook up with young extras and so on. There was another girl who said that she had had s.ex with him on more than one occasion while he was in St Louis. She said he was nice and charming when they were together but seemed obsessed by s.ex and talked about it a lot, talked about how horny he was all the time. When he left St Louis he said he would call her but he never did. After a while she found out that he had been trying to sleep with TWO of her friends as well. There are a lot of stories about Gerry and his girls/women out there and now that he is more famous his indiscretions will be more public.

Men will be Men @ 02/29/2012 at 3:35 am

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21328460.500-stephen-hawking-at-70-exclusive-interview.html
“What do you think most about during the day?
Women. They are a complete mystery.”
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LOL! Gerry answered the same way.
http://gbgalsgallery.com/v/magazines/mgp/sorted_jf12/sorted_mgp4.jpg.html
““……………….the Scot still views the female of the species as a mystifying force. “There’s aside of women that is unknowable and mysterious and I love that. Women have such a different perspective on life from men and that’s what is so attractive about them, amongst other things. For me, one of the greatest turn-ons is being able to understand a woman and appreciate the kind of sensitivity and romance she brings to your life…………………”
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Men see women as very mysterious creatures, and that’s a big part of their mystic for men. Men spend much time trying to figure out women because unlike men, women are much more complicated. It doesn’t matter what kind of man he is, if he is heterosexual he thinks about sex all the time. He ponders women and wants to unravel their mysteries. Never let him unravel you. Always have a mysterious side he can never untangle and take apart. He’ll try to untangle you and take you apart in order to understand you, in the process also take apart your mystic. Never let him; keep him guessing for life; keep him busy with your magic for life; you’ll be a bit unattainable and always fascinating to him for life.

What do you like in women? @ 02/29/2012 at 4:01 am

Gerry: “V*gina”. Period.

Men will be Men @ 02/29/2012 at 4:17 am

@What do you like in women?:
Not just Gerry; all men. They don’t tell women this because they know you’ll be shocked. Women need to start accepting the ugly truth.

I've got giggle bubbles.. @ 02/29/2012 at 4:20 am

@What do you like in women?:
LOL – almost, but you’re on the right track. I think it’s more like this:
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What do you like in women?
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Gerry: “Me”. :-P

@Jennie: LIKE …and you’re so so so right…

What do you like in women? @ 02/29/2012 at 7:13 am

@I’ve got giggle bubbles..: ‘V*gina’ is not my answer, it was HIS answer about two years ago. ;)

If crowds act aggressively, negatively or judgmental, it’s because people bring an aggressive, negative or judgmental mind to it. Then the mob theory takes over. Contagion theory says the crowds infect the people in them.
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For the most part the above is why sites like WOGB and GALS and GBFG prefer to keep anyone without the most positive of views of Gerry, no matter what he does, away (or banned or in permanent moderation). They wish to control with their censoring.
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As for the sexes? Women fantasize about relationships; men fantasize about sex. This is why so many of the happily married come in here, to fantasize (using chat about him or photos, etc) being in a relationship with him. Anyone who read my first story knows I did both. (blushes) And it was so hard to write all I did getting the hate I did by his fans who brought them sex with him. They turned on me. I never got it. I do now. They don’t (for the most part) like me writing it. Which is fine. But all men like sex, and are very visual creatures so seeing all that in words is fun for them.
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I’ve my original three male readers for years now! While the new story has less of it, with it being more of a tool to deal with one character’s compounding issues, it is there. And when it’s there, it’s… really there. The second story is like 2nd Stage Love. Anyone know what that is?
~K
who agrees women should always be cultivating their mystery

@facereality:

“Totally…er, I mean…No, you’re wrong. He’s just going through a rough patch with his back right now, and will move on and make Academy award-winning films, meet a wonderful woman (probably from this forum) who he will be utterly devoted to, and they will settle down in one of their homes, probably the one they will purchase in the Scottish Highlands, and have a couple of kids and live peacefully forevermore, out of the public eye and away from the cruel press, who just make up lies about innocent people.”

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Now that’s funny. Luv it.

@curious cat:

What I’ve noticed is that it isn’t even the ones being mean and spiteful that are getting thumbed down into oblivion and attacked at times. It’s also the ones that have constructive criticism towards Gerard Butler. Some out of concern! If you do not candy coat or play the denial game, you get thumbed down and/or attacked. I can see how certain posters get upset about that. This is a free forum and last time I checked, we have freedom of speech.

Feel we’ve lurkers who just thumb everyone down! Don’t pay any attention to it. It’s a silly feature here on JJ!

Final words… because I’m hanging up my posting for a spell….
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Consider this. Maybe one of his “friends” (who secretly wants to see him down and has been instrumental all along but he just can’t see this) finds out he’s headed out for sex, chuckles on the line, then calls in an “white lady” order and she delivers it? He tries to resist but, hey… he’s clean and what’s just one time? He’s picked up. Luckily not out of a bathroom tube like Whitney. He goes to the local jail first. Booked. Mug shot goes up on the TV. Next, if he can’t talk his way out and possibly can and seek more help it’s prison. Humiliation. Loss of work, reputation. His homes and those who depend on him, family he supports, etc. What about them? IF he is not careful, and doesn’t get into a ‘spa’ or half-way house quick and seek therapies for ALL his addictions, he’s heading in this direction it seems.
~K

@I’ve got giggle bubbles..:
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Can I play too?
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What do you like in women?
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Gerry: Willingness… although I bow to the “me” which I’m still giggling about. :)))
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@Men will be Men:
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You have me ROTF… so it’s not Gerry’s fault at all… ALL men act like this… Oh no… oh no… oh mama… oh mama…. Oh my God Noooooo!!!!
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The BullSh!t meter just burst! :P

Finally saw Machine Gun Preacher last night. The one thing that I really took away from the movie is…
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Lynn Childers is a SAINT!
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And Gerry’s best scene and most realistic… barfing in the toilet from too much recreational entertainment… okay that was sort of a joke. :P

Funinthesun @ 02/29/2012 at 10:21 am

@Very very old story:

” He was sleeping with very young girls (teenagers) while shooting Game of their lives in St. Louis”
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He had a gf with him when he was filming that movie. The reason I know is because a radio station there talked about her getting in to some trouble at a club one night and almost getting arrested. I don’t know who she was but Gerry just laughed about it so obviously it was true. There is an audio of the convo somewhere on one of the fan sites.
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@Men will be Men:

Also, you can get what you need from them if you have a great divorce attorney without the hassle. Just sayin’.

What do you like in women? @ 02/29/2012 at 11:21 am

@Funinthesun: He always has several gfs at the same time. No big deal.

Why are there people posting here looking for things to be wrong with Gerard Butler that aren’t wrong? I’ve seen the “their jealous! they love him!” explanations, but that doesn’t cut it. There’s gotta be some other reason.

I’m talking about the people who are saying he got plastic surgery when the photos clearly show that his forehead just looks super smooth because of the light and flash. In the photos with normal lighting, the wrinkles are clear. This silliness with claiming that he tries to pick up underage girls. Maybe he sleeps with a lot of women but that doesn’t mean he goes after underage girls. People are just repeating stories that others have made up (or maybe they made up) and that gullible people (or twisted people) have decided are true.

Why? Again I don’t buy the “they’re jealous, they feel rejected” explanation. I think it’s something worse. Why would someone spend their time making things up about a man or jumping to wild conclusions and trying to convince people that they’re true? It’s not stating an opinion as some people protest when people call what they’re doing twisted. Some of what gets posted here comes really close to libel. Why do it? If that’s “fun” to some people, that’s really screwed up, and I feel sorry for them. They’re clearly unhappy or just very very angry people if that’s their idea of fun. I just don’t get it.

@I’ve got giggle bubbles..:

I believe it went like this: He was asked, “What do you look for in a woman?” He replied, “A ******.”

Male humor….

@laruj:

He was asked,”What do you look for in a woman?” He replied, “A Va/ina.”

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 12:21 pm

@Why?: how about the the excuse its a gossip board not the NY TIMES. I am sure if anything here was taken too seriously the post would come down or we would hear of the celeb suing the contributor.

People will always rip on celebrities. Get over it and don’t read the posts if it crushes you so. The world s/ucks, so do people, thats life. JJ doesn’t need thread mommies, pollyannas and fangrrrls to guard against poor gerry’s widdle feelings. Someone here said he is the product of his choices, so are we all.

“me” good one!

God Bless yoou all! @ 02/29/2012 at 12:38 pm

Matthew 7:20-21
New International Version
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 12:39 pm

My last little pearl of wisdom for all the haters out there.

I would say why come to JJ at all if you love gerry so much and don’t want to see him blighted in anyway.

I’ve been around an embarassing long time. The best thing about here is you can say, snipe, snark, embellish, dream, deny, comment, banter about ANYTHING and sometimes even make a friend or two.

Its not the be all end all. Life is so much more than here and him.

Those that dedicate there lives to drinking Gerry koolaide need to find some perspective. That was the reason for my snark last night. Wake up girlies. Spring is coming.

Men will be Men @ 02/29/2012 at 1:35 pm

@Manny:
You obviously missed the point, AS USAUAL. No suprises there.

@internetmasterbrian: Thank you for the laugh. But I expect the Phannies to be out in force to save Gerry for a while. Some of them posted all day yesterday it looks like.

I actually don’t find that there are a lot of “haters” here. I’m new to posting on JJ, and I’m a big GB fan. But, I’ll admire him AND I’ll discuss issues; not just fawn over him. If I wanted to fawn and mindlessly gush, I’d join one of those silly fan sites.

Link from a friend of mine on Twitter – @ashSlay – girl claiming her sister is set up on a date with GB in a few weeks from now. Quite young and probably so is her sister. He seems to need a regular supply of the ladies.

angelsrock @ 02/29/2012 at 2:37 pm

@PsychoB:

Okay so this is exactly what I don’t get. How do you know that? Were you lurking around the websites reading all of it? I come here; no where else and I consider myself a huge fan of Gerry’s. Why would you do that and how the heck do you find the time?

@……:
And he only dates young women.
And he only fuucks the older ones on a quickie basis, i.e. Brandi.
The phannies need to make peace with that.

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 2:40 pm

@angelsrock:
well said.
@……:
Please share the link

@Interesting!:Can’t copy on this – search on that Twitter name @ashSlay – tweet is on 28 Feb.

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 3:02 pm

@……:
Thank you; I found it.
I’ll post it.

@internetmasterbrian: “Get over it and don’t read the posts if it crushes you so.”

Look freakshow, I’m not crushed by what I’m reading. I don’t care if someone is posting about Gerard Butler, Ricky Gervais, or Kate Winslet. There is something mentally irregular with someone who’s idea of a good time is making things up about someone they don’t know and spreading the fictional stories around the internet like they’re fact.

And your defensive reaction to my post indicates that YOU’RE the one trying to be a board mommy, saying how things should and should not be on here. You want to say whatever you want about Gerard Butler and his fans on here? Well then pull up your big girl panties and deal with the fact that some people may come on here and disagree. Don’t whine like a little school girl because someone doesn’t read what you write and give you a gold star.

Either dish it AND take it or excuse yourself to a moderated forum where people who have nothing better to do than spew fiction about Gerard Butler can proceed uninterrupted by people calling out the obvious – that you’re full of s/h/!/t, and apparently have nothing of more value going on in your life than advertising on the internet that you are full of s/h/!/t. Congratulations on that. I’m sure that if you weren’t too chicken s/h!/t to tell them that this is how you spend your time, you’re parents would be oh so proud. (sarcasm)

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 3:16 pm

http://twitter.com/#!/ashSlay
ashley christian‏@ashSlayReply
“my sister is going on a date with Gerard Butler……. what!!!!!!!!”
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ashley christian‏@ashSlayReply
“@katiehughes0 she just called to tell me that her friend set her up on a date in 2 weeks when he’s in town in Nola.”

@Men will be Men:
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And again you missed the joke… what a surprise…

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 3:19 pm

JJ won’t let me post the trst for some reason. I”l try to divide it up.
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http://twitter.com/#!/megciccarone
Megan Ciccarone‏@megciccaroneReply
“@ashSlay like the real Gerard Butler?!?!”
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ashley christian‏@ashSlayReply
“@megciccarone yesss!”

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 3:20 pm

Megan Ciccarone‏@megciccaroneReply
“@ashSlay how did that happen!!!!”
In reply to ashley christian

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All the girls participating in these tweets are very young. They’re college students.
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Is Nola, New Orleans?

Big Mouth @ 02/29/2012 at 3:30 pm

@Interesting!: “Is Nola, New Orleans?”
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Yep it is, and if the tweets are true and not a huge exaggeration on the girl’s part (like a local fixer says “sure, I’ll give GB your number” turns into “I’ve got a date with GB!”) ………. that date sure ain’t happenin’ now!! As if it’s not obvious that he’s not gonna spend time with a big mouth, I’m thinkin’ “Brandi who” may have been a clue. lol, bimbos.

@Interesting!: Yes, he is due there sometime to start ‘Thunder Run’. Seems to be lining up company through past contacts.

curious cat @ 02/29/2012 at 3:37 pm

@Men will be Men:

Correction. Addition. Even the most innocent looking PERSON loves sex. Women included. I’ve seen a few animal vids lately and there is no species that loves sex the way human beings do.

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 3:41 pm

@Big Mouth: @……:
Yes ladies, I agree with both of you.

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 3:44 pm

@……:
Oh no! Sorry I gave you a neg by mistake.
I wish I can reverse it. Maybe someone else can reverse it because you sure don’t deserve a neg.

Men will be Men @ 02/29/2012 at 3:45 pm

@curious cat:
Agreed!

WO searches for tweets all day long. It’s curious those ladies didn’t pay any mind to this.

@Interesting!: Don’t worry. I am sure that at some stage I will deserve one!

Big Mouth @ 02/29/2012 at 3:54 pm

@Interesting!: “All the girls participating in these tweets are very young. They’re college students.”
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Also to be fair, just because the tweeters are college kids doesn’t mean the sister is. One of my brothers is 13 years older than me. I know someone who worked as a fixer for an actor who was shooting in his home town. Some actors like that, someone who can take them around, know the cool places to go, take care of arrangements. Sometimes they’ll introduce them to girls. My friend told me that people who do what he does sometimes also use the position to get in with the girls themselves, like “Sure, I’ll introduce you to so and so.” Also, fixers sometimes get a group of girls together to hang out and see who the actor hits it off with. So, if it’s a “friend of a friend” thing, GB may not even know yet that someone has told this girl (allegedly) that he’ll get her close to GB. And if it was ever gonna happen, it’s sure as hell not gonna now! LOL. bimbos.

Add another project to the Butler calendar…
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http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118050879

@Big Mouth: Basically, procuring.

This tweet has me ROTF…
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SupFanFan 2:10pm via web
RT @animallanguage: Everyone, please pray for my mother. She just told me that she thinks Gerard Butler sucks in Phantom of the Opera. :’(

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 4:24 pm

@……:
LOL! At some point we all might.
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@Big Mouth:
Your analysis is spot on; these scenarios are very plausible.
We just don’t know the context in which all of this is supposed to take place.
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But now that she blabbed I doubt any of this is going to take place, unless it’s going to be a group of girls hanging out together for GB to choose someone from among them. Then maybe the fixer will let it happen. Well, we’ll wait and see.

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 4:30 pm

How is he supposed to have all of these movies start in May?
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Additionally, the Variety article say he has 2 other projects, wasn’t 3? There is a 3rd one, but I don’t remember which one it is.

Big Mouth @ 02/29/2012 at 4:38 pm

@Interesting!: “We just don’t know the context in which all of this is supposed to take place.”
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Yeah may not even be a fixer sitch at all. Might just be someone claiming to know GB or who really will be with GB in NOLA and telling a friend that she’ll hook her up with him when he’s in town. Then, “Sorry love, he was just too busy.” When my friend arranged social stuff for an actor in his town, he invited me to hang out. I made him swear that it wasn’t a “procuring” type thing. He said the actor just wanted to meet cool people to hang out with and that was true. My friend promised me that it would be no sweat off my back if I met the guy and didn’t think he was someone cool myself, so I went and it was fun. Basically friends of ours working him and a few others into our group. I only hung out with them once, but others went out more often. I don’t think anyone became real friends out of it, but it was a good time. So like you said, who knows. Could be anything or nothing at all.

Interesting! @ 02/29/2012 at 4:54 pm

@Big Mouth:
Yes, it will be interesting to see what transpires.
But, I got to add, it sounds like the girls are making a lot more out of it than actually intended. I don’t think this girl is being set up to actually go on a priavte date with him.
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why didn’t you end up hanging out with that star more than once?
Was he gross? Was he not nice to you?

Big Mouth @ 02/29/2012 at 5:07 pm

@Interesting!: Yeah I think you’re right that they’re probably blowing it up. Also its just a tweet by a sister repeating what someone told her sister about arranging a date. lol – could be total BS.
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No the guy was totally nice. Not gross at all. His friends/colleagues too. I didn’t go out with them more because I was busy with work and other plans. Like I said, it wasn’t something where my friend was arranging for the guy to hang out with me as a guy/girl thing. No way I would have gone at all if that was what it was about. He was just getting a group of people together to have some fun. I just had too much going on to join up with them the other days and nights that they got together. No biggie.

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 5:18 pm

@Why?:overreact much fangrrrl. Your post is embarassing.

I see WO has arrived today, you can set your watch by it. A tweet they missed, doubt it. Buried more like.

NoMystery @ 02/29/2012 at 5:36 pm

@Very very old story:
“He ate p/u/ssy and f/u/cked like there was no tomorrow. And he smoked like a chimney”. – Quote from a girl who slept with Gerry in St Louis. She was also so kind (lol!) to let us know that Mr Butler was uncut.

angelsrock @ 02/29/2012 at 5:38 pm

@Big Mouth:

Ashley, darling, you just blew it!!

Get Right @ 02/29/2012 at 5:40 pm

@internetmasterbrian: “overreact much fangrrrl. Your post is embarassing.”
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In response to her post, you call her a “fangrrrl”? Wow. Burn. Think you might be a little confused about who should be embarrassed here. Especially since you’re posting stuff like this:
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“I see WO has arrived today, you can set your watch by it”
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WO is coming! WO is coming!! Run for the hills!! LOL. You’re like that freakin kid in The Sixth Sense who sees dead people everywhere, except with the fansites.
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You got thumbed down — must have been the GALS! Oh no, someone disagreed with you, must have been the mothership! LOL. They’ve got drugs for that kind of paranoia now. Check it out.

Funinthesun @ 02/29/2012 at 5:42 pm

We’ll see if G turns up in NO in two weeks but he doesn’t start filming in Baton Rouge until May. Not sure why he’d be going there anyway.

@Big Mouth:
I bet the sister is not a day over 21. PedoGerry is in full force again.

@GFW: @GFW:

Oh I could care less about the thumbs. I only come here for mindless entertainment once in a while. Its similar to reading the Brange threads. Not that there aren’t posters that can bring common sense to the table. It’s pretty scarce tho.

Funinthesun @ 02/29/2012 at 5:49 pm

@NoMystery:

So how do I see this “quote”? What is your source? If I’m going to turn to the dark side, I need proof! Please supply!

Funinthesun @ 02/29/2012 at 5:55 pm

@mimi:

Isn’t anything over 18 considered legal? Don’t think that constitutes a pedo, even if it were true.

NoMystery @ 02/29/2012 at 5:59 pm

@Funinthesun:
It’s hard to say where you can find this quote now. It was posted all over the Gerard Butler forums and threads back in 2004. I’m pretty sure the original story came from a guy who worked on the set of GOTL. His female friend had hooked up with Gerry and he had asked her about him. I remember she also described G’s p/enis as “thick”, LOL. Sorry I can’t give you an exact source. You could try the archives at Datalounge. It’s a gay men’s site but there was a lot written about Gerry there when Phantom of the Opera was released. A lot of eye witness accounts.

New thread, about Brilliant.

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 6:02 pm

@Get Right: hahaha keep going, is your mouth frothing yet?

@mimi:
17 and up is not considered statutory rape and in some states as young as 16. So realistically, if a girl that young wants to have sex with him he is not a pedo. However, to an old hag like yourself, it’s threatening for these 2 to get together because it takes you out of commission.
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That said i dount his women are younger than 20. I think he goes for the 20-25 crowd.

OK…here is the Twitter girl’s sister’s Facebook page (the one who had a date in New Orleans): http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=680560556
Her name is Tiffany R Christian.

angelsrock @ 02/29/2012 at 6:03 pm

@NoMystery:

And didn’t a more recent bed buddy describe it as pencil-like.
Who do we believe? Eenie meanie miney moe……

@Funinthesun:
It’s confusing. He is also supposed to be in AK this Spring so we’ll have to wait and see where he actually turns up.

Funinthesun @ 02/29/2012 at 6:06 pm

@NoMystery:

So you’re telling me this is hearsay? Talk is cheap.

@Funinthesun:
It’s still disgusting. The guy is 42 years old.

@Funinthesun:
“So how do I see this “quote”? What is your source? If I’m going to turn to the dark side, I need proof! Please supply!”
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Exactly, no one should believe this without the source.

@Dallas: Oh Dallas, the same old excuse. I’m 23 years old.

@NoMystery:
Didn’t she also say that he told her to make sounds and tell him it hurts as he penetrated her, implying his peen is so big? Or was it another hearsay source?

@mimi:
How old is she?

NoMystery @ 02/29/2012 at 6:17 pm

@It!:
Nope, haven’t heard about that one. I hope it isn’t true though. Sounds absolutely crazy, lol.

Get Right @ 02/29/2012 at 6:24 pm

@internetmasterbrian: “, is your mouth frothing yet?”
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Huh? How did you know that I’m drinking a pilsner?
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Peeps, the people posting quotes about GB and pedophilia are trolling. They’re just making it up to get a rise out of the fans. Just ignore them.

@Can’tGetEnough:
I like this quote:
“Gerard Butler reportedly spent about the last three weeks at the Betty Ford Center to deal with a prescription pill problem, but now it sounds like things are looking up.”
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Sure looks like things are looking up for him – 3 good projects coming up. That’s nothing to scoff at. If rehab was truly successful for him as reported by his team, and if he truly stays away from the stuff, he’s back being king of the manor in my book. I like the let’s-wait-and-see attitude many posters are taking here. Indeed, let’s wait and see.
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BTW, in my experience when things are down in your life, if you only wait a few days (sometimes a couple of weeks), life has a way for correcting itself and then indeed things begin looking up. All it takes is patience and determination to stick in there.

march madness @ 02/29/2012 at 6:29 pm

@Big Mouth: I sure hope someone wouldn’t broadcast a “paid” date.

@mimi:
“Oh Dallas, the same old excuse. I’m 23 years old.”
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Sure ya are.
To a woman without any agenda, when a man is hot he is hot – never mind his age.
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When I was 18, there was a hotter than hot guy in my area in his 30s (32). Do you think I thought it’s inappropriate? Hell no! I wanted him. All my other friends had older men as BF as well. Women like older man, especially if they are accomplished, well off, and good looking.
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It’s the older women that feel threatened by it because they feel that younger women are stealing their potentials. It’s been younger woman/older man for all most of human history.
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As it turns out, we started dating and he was great – wining and dining me – but I wasn’t ready to have a sex with him just yet. A few months later he transferred to Austin for his work and we lost touch. 2 years later I transferred to the University of Texas at Austin to complete my degree. One day we ran into each other. Since that day we have been inseparable. We got married 10 months later and are very much in love till this day. I was 21 and he was 35. He is 14 years older than me, does that make him a pedophile? Please spare me!

Can'tGetEnough @ 02/29/2012 at 7:07 pm

@Info: We’re definitely going to have to wait and see. Doubt we’ll ever really know the truth about his stay at Betty Ford, even if he comments about it in interviews. If you think about some of the behaviors of other celebs (Mel Gibson, Lindsay Lohan), regardless of what GB was actually treated for, it all could be a lot worse. I’m not defending his addiction whatever it may be and if it’s interfering with his life and career, he definitely needs to continue to get treatment and get well. At least he hasn’t been arrested for DUI’s and drunken rants, drug possession, etc. (Not recently anyway, maybe in his younger days) He hasn’t been found overdosed in a hotel room either. I wouldn’t want to see anyone head down that road of destruction, GB included. We’ve seen too many celebs die. Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston—all of them with enough money and resources to get the help they needed and they never did.

@Dallas:
Dallas, I see your point and I don’t think it’s wrong with age difference. I think your story about you and your husband is beautiful but it is a totally different thing with Gerry. He *deliberately* goes after women who are young enough to be his daughters, with the only intention to have sex with them and nothing else. Not to build a lasting relationship, like you and the man in your life, and even like my mother and father who have an age difference of 16 years between them. He’s not after love, he’s not interested in the person that they are, he’s just after one thing, again and again.
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I have read some of the accounts of these young women and it’s actually quite sad how he leaves them broken hearted with his promises of calling them and keeping in touch, things he naturally never had any intention of doing. An older woman, say over 25, would understand but the younger ones often just get hurt. I especially remember the story of one young woman, 19 years old, who posted her story at the gbnet forum back in 2006. It got deleted really fast but I, and many others, still got the time to read it. He slept with her, said she could come and visit him in LA, and many other promises. When they met by chance some time later he pretended he didn’t even recognize her.

internetmasterbrian @ 02/29/2012 at 7:34 pm

@Get Right: welcome back Eve, you pilsner swilling sweet as/s you! Happy to fight with one so worthy.

OMG I cannot believe how much I have missed in the world of Gerard Butler . . . and a new thread too!! I guess I had better start catching up on all this news.

@mimi:
I agree with you that if a guy is just going after women to trap them into having s/ex with him, then he is a lo/wlife. Yes, based on what you wrote, Gerry could be called as cre/ep. However, a lot of it is hearsay, and that’s hard to accept as truth without proof. People say a lot of things to gain attention. Yes, I know there are stories by young girls who say Gerry used them, but where is their responsibility? Why are these young girls sleeping with men without getting to know them better first? I refused to sleep with my husband when I first met him. I knew how to say no when I felt it wasn’t right for me at the time. How come these women don’t? I think they get star struck and want to have the thrill of sleeping with a famous man. After they do it, they expect things. I very much doubt most men and that includes Gerry, promise women all kinds of “forever after” promises. Women just expect it when sex is involved because men and women have different emotional needs and communicate differently. These women report he made promises to them, could also be saying what they thought he should have done once the movie shoot ended. He probably called their phone number while he was in town to get together and they expected to hear from him after he left as well. I agree that for him it was only sex and for the girls……well, they wanted more. But where is their responsibility to themselves? Every time you sleep with a guy without commitments, you run the risk you won’t see him again. Therefore, if you have no-strings attached sex, you should not expect more than whatever you get, and it’s why women place more emphasis on a commitment than men do.

@Funinthesun:
Maybe the gf was the Brazilian girl he was said to be dating at the time.

@internetmasterbrian: “welcome back Eve, you pilsner swilling sweet as/s you! Happy to fight with one so worthy.”
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Who the hell is Eve? Like Adam and Eve? Is that what you do when you can’t respond to people laughing at you? Call them names of troublemaking women in the Bible? Strange, but ok. I’d prefer Lilith, though. True, it’s not entirely clear that she’s mentioned in the Bible, but I like the idea of being created next to Adam instead of from him.
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OH! No no no – I change my mind. I want to be Bathsheba!

@Autumn:
“Reviews thanks for the Vanity Fair photos – he looks quite handsome.”
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Glad to oblige.
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Yes i agree with you. I don’t think he had botox shots on his face. I don’t think he is that into his looks, judging by how sloppy he could look at times.

Dr Drew talking about GB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jiJT7tU1u4
I don’t think it’s realistic to be away from his business contacts for 6-12 months, as Drew suggests.
This man is a celebrity and that’s what he does for a living. telling him to stay away from social events is good in theory only. It’s not realistic.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppkApKm_0fw

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