Vanessa Hudgens, Sarah Hyland, & Jordin Sparks: Power of Youth Honorees!
Vanessa Hudgens, Sarah Hyland, and Jordin Sparks attend Variety‘s 2012 Power of Youth held at Paramount Studios on Saturday afternoon (September 15) in Los Angeles.
The ladies were joined by fellow honorees Diego Boneta and the Jonas Brothers – Nick, Joe, and Kevin.
Vanessa, in a Moschino dress, was presented her award by High School Musical director Kenny Ortega at the event, where she was honored for her work with the Make-A-Wish Foundation.
Sarah, in a Zimmermann dress with Brian Atwood heels, Kotur clutch and a Melinda Maria ring, was honored for work with The Lopez Foundation.
Jordin wore a dress from her ‘I’m MAD Are You?’ campaign. She was honored at the event for her work with Childhelp.
The Jonas Brothers were recognized for their work with the Change for the Children Foundation while Diego was honored for his work with the Vannie E. Cook Jr. Children’s Cancer & Hematology Clinic.
30+ pictures inside of Vanessa Hudgens and others at the Power of Youth event…








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It’s so great to see youth being celebrated in Hollywood. We don’t see that nearly enough.
V looks gorgeous
Sarah, so cute!!
A layered dress simply cut. The neck reminds of a dress I had in the late 60s. Looking cute, though. Bet Vanessa was excited to see Kenny.
Vanessa is looking absolutely gorgeous! wow, just wow!
Hate the dress back in the 6o’s it reminds people. V prombley happy to see kenny again.
She wearing a ring on her right hand finger. That a friendship dating forever ring that austin gave her.
Like zac gave her when those two where dating.
Vanessa and Diego Boneta would make a cute couple
she didn’t take that douchebag with her ? surprising ! i thought he was back for the weekend . mmm may be because Kenny was there .afterall he was the one that led to the formation of Zanessa !
Diego Boneta as Rocco? Haha, anyone remember?
Am I missing something or are we back in 2007? News flash people: they aren’t together anymore. They broke up. She’s happy, he’s happy. It’s time to take down the zanessa posters and move on.
Why is Austin a douchebag? Because he’s not Zac?
that’s absurd ! that ring could be anything , it doesn’t necessarily have to come from sagging lower lip . it could be anything -something given by a girlfriend or something she bought herself or even something from her ex ! lol
She has got the biggest smirk on her face. She thinks she is perfect and she is terrible.
if austin is a douchebag because he’s not zac , then all the men in the world except zac should be douchebags – including YOU too ! lol
@ yawn
She’s smiling you idiot. All of them are. What the hell is wrong with you? Just cause you think you can read minds doesnt actually mean you can.
Gorgeous
@BO:
Austin is a good man! He makes V happy, i dont care about her ex, because he doesnt exist in her life!
if austin is a douchebag because he’s not zac , then all the men in the world except zac should be douchebags – including YOU too ! lol
@Yawn:
She has a GORGEOUS smile!
She looks absolutely gorgeous!!!! Austin is lucky. The ex is dumb
@BO: Lmao you literally make no sense. You constantly bring Zac up when he has nothing to do with the post and then refer to her boyfriend as a douchebag. Why do you even come here? You never have anything nice to say and then you attack her fans.
Gorgeous! Love the dress
Vanessa and Sarah <3 so adorable
so proud of her! continue making wishes come true V! <3
Vanessa looks gorgeous , all the girls were so pretty. Congrats to all that is a wonderful thing to be honored for.
Beautiful dress! Just perfect for Vanessa.:)
Really Bo? I mean you can criticize her acting, her dress, her hair, whatever you like, but that Zac thing is getting OLD, it’s time to move on, they will NEVER get back together.
this wasn’t that big an event from the look of it . looks like it did not live up to the fuss created by jj and jjjr .looks like some casual outdoor get together , picnic or something .no one is even dressed properly .
@bo
think whatever makes you feel better about yourself
love the pics with Kenny Ortega and Adam Shankman awww…
These events are lovely, good causes all around <3
ah! i see the thread livened up again with the return of BO THE GREAT ! I admit , the thread was pretty boring without me ! just the same usual rantings by the fans -” she’s so pretty , flawless , dress suits her well ha… ha …. ha…” drool … lol
Jordan looks ultra sexy! Sarah looks like an angel.
@Tweetims: Have you seen Jordan in a bikini? Wow
Gawd, look at Sarahs face! Sexy yet elegant. She has a huge career ahead of her. Maybe a bond girl one day.
Congratulations to all the awardees most especially to Van!Keep up the good work.
Vanessa, as usual,looks very pretty.
BO,can you just be happy for everybody…they are being honored for their exemplary works.This thread is soooo full of positivity.You are more negative than the word negative itself!Shooo….go away!
@ChrissieVal: Yes. I love that jordan promotes her career without getting crazy or stupid like so many others these days. Thats why she is there! Congrats girls
gorgoeus
her dress is so pretty, the color is perfect for her
As in every minute of the day in everyday she look always GORGEOUS and adorable!! Congrats V more way to go and more blessings to come!! so PROUD of u!!
We get posters like Yawn and Bo over at the Ex’s thread fawning over his greatness and then they come here to post **** about Vanessa and mention him all the time. Now what does that tell you?
We love you Sarah! Go girl!
How long ago did her and zac break up? You all needa get over this HSM fantasy
@Steph: In December it will be 2 years lol
her dress doesn’t suit. what does she think wearing such a dress . it’s something that kids wear .i had one like that when i was about 6 years old -yup when i was in grade 1or 2
@xo:
best 2 years ever….
@kelly martineau:
it would be really adorable if they were engaged!
@Yawn:
lol she has a beautiful smile, and the fact that she is being honored because she is helping a foundations like Make a Wish, it proves that, at least her heart is perfect, she is always talking about dreams,and happiness, she has always stayed true to herself!… to me SHE IS PERFECT!
@BO:
No one cares about Vanessa´s ex boyfriend.
@BO:
Do you saw the pictures of Vanessa sitting on the floor playing with the kids? are you seriously talking like that about an event where all this young stars were honored because they all enjoy HELPING ANOTHER PERSONS!
you are just a pressed efron stan!
@Jodabo: Everyone absolutely loved Sarah over at The Lopez Foundation. They always looked forward to seeing her, and she was fantastic with the kids. She had a tremendous impact on the group achieving their goals. Thank goodness for Sarah… she’s one of the most exceptional young ladies in showbiz and a real example setter!
@BO: Oh hello Donkey, I see your back from being a complete a$$ on Gayfrons threads where you made a comment about his nads. You do realise he’d more than likely NEVER look your way hahaha.
You guys should see how much Donkey……I mean @BO fawns over Gayfron, it is absolutely scary $hit. Yes we make comments about V’s clothing, errands etc…… but stalker @BO goes a step further with outlandish comments. Get a grip he is NOT the best actor of his generation.
P.S Vanessa looks amazing in peach, it’s a colour you know. A million times better than the threadbare rags you call clothing.
15 days of gorgeousness and fashion. A pleasure for the eyes.
Thank you Vanessa!
Haters can say what they want, but this is a lovely honor for her, and all the others. It’s 100 times better than some TCA award. It’s about young people giving to those less fortunate, and it doesn’t always have to be about donating money. It’s taking the time like all these honorees do, to give a kid a reason to smile. Vanessa also works with other charities, as do the other honorees. Congrats to them for making a difference!!
MORE HQs HERE:
http://beauty-vanessa.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1221
http://beauty-vanessa.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1223
@maria: I agree, she has been with them (Make a Wish) since HSM, which would put it at about 7 or 8 years. For someone her age, that says a lot about her character.
@Haters Suck!: Look again. Forth row and 3rd pic in. Oh, aybe you have trouble seeing. get glasses!
congrats to everyone involved in such a good cause¡¡¡
i love when celebrities or normal persons use their inner power to help … that comes from the heart and it’s great
I LOVE VANESSA ..SARAH ..JORDIN… JOBROS & EVERYONE
@Yawn: You are regurgitated dog food. Shut your ugly trap and piss off.
Beautiful people inside and out. I’m a Van’s fan so that applies especially to her.
Vanessa looks gorgeous
i love jordy buy wtf is she wearing, those shoes.. girl!!!
@MoreThanWords: Naughty, naughty
@MoreThanWords: Naughty, naughty
@MoreThanWords: Naughty, naughty
@MoreThanWords: @MoreThanWords: Naughty, naughty
@yawn
Smile, smirk, whatever it’s basically the samething so what? Everyone is smiling here again so what? And it still doesn’t make you a mind reader dumbass.
Vanessa looks like a giant six year old. She’s too old for that dress and her hair looks awful. She’s not nearly as pretty as she used to be. And when she smirks her cheeks make her look like a coke *****.
@ Yawn : Stop nitpicking and get back to your Efron thread. I find it ironic when his fans accuse posters on his threads of being V fans. And you are obviously one of them.
@A: That’s a totally ridiculous comment. The dress is beautiful. This was an event for kids and parents. Not an event to look sexy. She looks PERFECT. And the hair style is a matte of taste. I think it’s adorable. Vanessa gets it right at different kind of events. She knows what’s appropriate. And she totally was here.
And I’m really sick of “the smirk” comments. ONE out all the pics above, is not a smiling one, and people have to comment. Such jerks. YOU try and amile for that long in front of cameras without relaxing your mouth and see how YOU do. She’s ALLOWED to not smile in every picture.
@A
Come out of your has been tisdale stink hole to be a b!tch. Stick with tisdale she needs support the most.
This Sarah chick is ultra cute. Ness looks killer. Jordan looks bangable, damn.
@haterssuck the only reason you know that is because you ***** all over tisdale’s articles to leave your hate… which is why I don’t get your chosen screenname.
@maria she can look classy and sophisticated without looking like she’s twelve. And she’s smirking in more than one of those photos. I didn’t read through the other comments. If it’s been said a lot, there’s a reason. Vanessa does always smirk at the camera and she looks much more attractive when she’s actually smiling.
@A
I never post on tisdale posts. She’s not worth my time. She’s not worth most people’s time.
@haters suck! wow you are such a liar. You’ve posted on her posts many times to leave hate. And so does maria. That’s how I recognized your names. And don’t try to say it was someone else, because you used the exclamation point too. Lying *****.
Tisdale is worth more people’s time than Vanessa. Just check their facebook pages. 12 million is more than double 5 million. ;) Just sayin.
@A: Go fcuk a duck.
Just saying.
@A
You’re psycho. I’ve never been on tisdales posts. Facebook what an arguement not to mention tisdales been on there years longer than vanessa.
@morethanwords good one.
@Yawn: Your come backs make me yawn. Did you lose your wit when mummy dropped you on your head as a child? Or does being a $hithead come naturally to you?.
@haters suck! I’m not a psycho, you’re just obviously a pathological liar. You may only show up to comment on threads featuring efron as well as tisdale but you still come there to leave hateful comments about ashley. I’m absolutely certain and you can lie all you want to.
Uhm, facebook is an argument because everyone has one and ashley has millions of more fans than vanessa. And Vanessa has had a page for years too, actually.
Please excuse HatersSuck! His sole purpose in life is to obsess over one solitary celebrity – you guessed it, Hudgens – on obscure pap sites like just jared, and chase away anyone with a differing opinion (hudgens is the most awesome actress in the world) than his own. He needs to get a life. He needs to get psych help too but hes still in denial. I would tell him to check his hmo for a list of available psychiatrists, but dude has no job, and thus, no coverage.
@A: ………
There you go, he even attacks other Hudgens fans! Nice going dude!
@intric8
I do have a job you dumbass. Least unlike u I don’t call people f*gd and re_tards. You’re on here more then I am. Take the stick out your ass.
@A
You’re nuts. I stay off efron and tisdale posts. I fight them here when their dumbass fans like u come here looking for a fight and cause trouble.
Not Ashley’s fan, too. Please just go support your idol, I believe she just tweeted about her where abouts, so you’ll be able to find her.
@Haters suck! BS!!!! This is the first time I’ve EVER been on a Vanessa thread and it was just because that hideous dress caught my eye from where I was reading my Tisdale article. You have been all over Tisdale and Efron posts pretty much every time I’ve read one on here. Which is how you knew I was a Tisdale fan even though I never mentioned it. Accuse me of being nuts all I want, but you’re a liar, and you know it.
@A
I honestly think you live in an alternative universe. Or you’re just seeing things and making crap up.
@A: You act as though Tisdale fans don’t come in here and make stupid comments all the time. Speaking of Ashley, why aren’t you in her posts? Whenever I scroll past one I notice they barely ever get any comments.
@tina omg, if haterssuck! hadn’t posted about me coming from tisdale threads (which he knows because he trolls them) her name would not have been mentioned. Me liking Ashley doesn’t change the fact that Vanessa has messy hair and a fourth grader’s dress on. It was merely a fashion comment.
For example A, if you were conveniently near a cliff right now, HatersSuck! wouldn’t hesitate to push you off it. He would push me off it too. I wouldn’t be surprised if he watched us hit every branch on the way down smiling the whole time, or hit the rocks, all the while leering mercilessly. Right now he is reading this comment, waving his arms like a couple of windmills and denying the truth, which is, he is out of control. Look, he is tearing up a perfectly good post about these fine actresses who have helped a great cause. If Van knew what he was up to here, she would be appalled because he is HER fan. Only problem is, she doesn’t have control over stalking fans, and HatersSuck! limits his activity here, so what can she do? It’s sad, i tell you.. sad.
@haterssuck! I’m doing neither of those things. It’s clear you’re going to keep up your lies so go ahead. I know for a fact you’ve trolled ashley’s articles before. It’s whatever.
@xo way to contradict yourself. Ashley has no fans to comment on her articles yet they’re all over Vanessa’s posts? I read them all the time without commenting. I don’t think I always need to stop and say something when I think she looks pretty or something. I comment mostly when I feel the need to defend her from crazy V fans, and sometimes just to voice support for her. And I already said that I saw the link for this article from reading one of Ashley’s. So I DID just comment on one of hers. (And of course it was trolled by YOU guys.)
Who die and made you the Queen of fashion?
Sb died
A, you have to understand the 2 or 3 supporters that occupy a Hudgens post. Any negative opinion about Van and they assume you are either a Zac fan “gayfron” or an established anti Hudgens person in disguise. They have no concept of a rogue stumbleupon here who just decided to say something negative about Van for the first time. Do yourself a favor and never come back to this sad place, or if you want stay and help establish some reality for them. I’ve recently tried to be nicer about Van but they still downvote me. LOL
Intric8, why try to side with A then? She’s kind of a Tisdale fan equivalent of what Haters Suck! is isn’t she? Except I think she’s actually a young girl which makes her seem less creepy.
A, you shouldn’t leave a rude comment on a post involving Vanessa if you don’t want us to do the same thing to Ashley.
@A: How did I contradict myself? Tisdale fans seem to post comments here more than they do in hers. How many comments have you made here/replied to? I only made a comment in Tisdale’s post because that’s the exact reason I’m not her fan anymore.
@intric8 exactly!! I don’t even hate Vanessa. At all. I do often hate the way she dresses.
@everybody else How the hell is this Tisdale related? Stop bringing her up! Why does every comment have to be about a rivalry between two girls who are actually close friends?
I dunno. It seemed a fair enough comment, but you guys are being too vicious don’t you think? And then your resident id!ot, HaterSuck! has to go off on his vitriolic routine which frankly, is tired and lame already. If someone thinks Ness looks like a child, take it as a compliment that she still looks young. If they don’t like her expression in the pic, so what? Are you that insecure about Van? Look at me, i’m one of the meanest critics about her and i think she looks great. wtf
@intric8
I honestly wouldn’t mind pushing a few people off cliffs but that’s not here or there at the moment. I’m just here watching the football game and getting you and a’s panties in a bunch.
@xo This is seriously the first time I’ve ever commented in a Hudgens post. I swear!! It’s the first time I’ve noticed her in the top stories bar and I had to see that dress up close because it looked awful and once I was sure that it was I left a comment. I’ve stayed to reply because you’ve all come in a slew of defense and accusations.
You hate all over Ashley’s posts! You left a comment on her most recent article! And it was stupid bs, btw anyway. I made a simple comment about the girl’s dress, I didn’t start speculating on her ulterior motives for every simple thing she does and her evil crafty brain, because I’m not psycho and ridiculous. You know, like the type of person that goes up in arms over a single innocent tweet.
Xo that is bullsh*t, you don’t know that “tisdale fans” come and comment here. I have never even heard Tisdale mentioned since i started following Hudgens posts, and that has been for quite awhile. There are really just a few light-hearted trolls here, Bo, myself, and i cant even think of any other! So dumb…
I dunno about anyone else but I’d gladly push all h8ters off a cliff edge. Heck I’d do it with a glass of merlot in one hand and my iPhone in the other to capture the sweet sounds of bones breaking as they hurtle towards a gruesome but rather deserving death.
@A, unless we didn’t get the memo, and you pay for her clothes and hair, neither have anything to do with you. She’s dressed appropriately for recieving her award for supporting Make-a-wish for 6+ years, without tweeting about it.
A is the much bigger dumbass than intric8 A is just somewhere in her own little world
@intric8: Bo is about as lighthearted as an anaconda.
A – just chill, and ignore if you have to. They love Vanessa too much, and get very emotional over anything negative. I have been trying to figure out why. My theory is that they are actually family and/or close friends of hers somehow. That’s how it seems, like they have a personal stake in her.
@morethanwords I made one comment about a tacky dress and now I’m deserving of gruesome death? This is why Hudgens fans are ridiculously over zealous. Please don’t harm anybody in real life sweetie. And judging from the way you talk I’m guessing you’re around twelve years old. You don’t belong anywhere near a glass of merlot.
You really need to go support you idol instead of trying to take someone else down. What did she get the usally ten comments? Oh, wait she’s using Selena this time so it probably twice that.
@A: Honey you cause $hit, you get $hit. As for the way I communicate, I’m actually an academic, but the attitudes of h8ters is very questionable. A remark about ones dress sense is tolerable, but a comparing ones loom to a coke addict is not. I am a fan of Vanessa is are numerous others on here, we actually LIKE our idol.
Come on guys, employ a little decent PR for poor Van. Regarding her dress, i would have said that it was a demure but classy choice, given the venue and cause. It wouldn’t look appropriate dressing like a **** there. A is entitled to her opinion, which is what you guys need to understand. Telling people to eff off or that you would be glad to see them die is just not cool. Anyone on the fence about liking Van will most assuredly start disliking her after reading stuff like that. I think most of Vanessa’s silent readership have fled long ago because some of you are so mean. Geez.
@tina she’s not tweeting about it because she wouldn’t have enough people to pay attention to what she says. And what’s bad about tweeting? It’s fun, and for a celebrity it makes perfect sense. It’s a way to gain publicity and share with your fans.
@intric8
Well in my opinion both you and a are heartless asssholes and need to piss off. See I’m entitled to an opinion to its not exclusive to haters zac and Ashley fans
@intric8: Ofcourse @A is entitled to an opinion, just as I am entitled to have an opinion about shucking a h8ter off a cliff. As for silent readers, clearly you haven’t been following Vanessa long enough else you’d see those ‘silent’ ones fight back at those who call Vanessa names. Trust me, they don’t scare off as easily as you think. BO is the flavour of the month, and every so often new posters retort back to BO’s nasty comments. Who by the way is sickenly stalkerish on Zac threads. What we admire about Vanessa is no way near scary as what your dear BO would like to do to Zac.
@morethanwords you’re not an academic. You lack serious grammar skills. And I didn’t mean to say Vanessa looked like a coke *****. I meant heroine addict. I accidentally typed one when I meant the other. And it’s because her cheeks are sucked in like one. Just look at the pictures, it’s pretty obvious what I mean.
I don’t even avidly dislike Vanessa but I can’t stand her damn fans!!!
@A
Well I can’t stand tisdale or her fans.
@haterssuck! You brought up zac and ashley again. You’re an obsessed hater.
You admit an error and you say I lave grammatical sense? What an egg. I think Vanessa has one of a few solid fanbases here on JJ. If you don’t like the way we defend Vanessa, then why go you keep replying? Must you be a sucker for punishment?!
@haterssuck! I know you can’t. That’s why you troll her posts. And that really doesn’t have anything to do with Vanessa wearing an ugly dress does it? I think you’re just obsessed with hating Ashley, almost as obsessed as you are with defending your precious Vanessa to the grave. The difference is I don’t have the passion or psycho-ability to say things about Vanessa that are half as hateful as the things that you and the rest of V’s crazed fans have to say about Ashley.
@A: I don’t hate Ashley or Zac, who are you to make a generalised assumption about Vanessa’s fans, stupid A-hole.
@A
I wouldn’t bring them up if their fans would leave her alone. She’s done with both of them so back off. If ur going to poke a bear with a stick don’t be surprised if it tried to bite your arm off.
You have lost your mind? Let’s see which of these girl has that sickly thin body with was enhanced with a boob job? Vanessa has almost a million followers with no tweets. It really wouldn’t be so bad if she only told her business but really who wants to know it? She happily uses anybody who thinks she’s their friend. When Vanessa and her ex broke up who felt it was her business to talk about it when they weren’t? Time for you to go back to her post.
@morethanwords my generalization about V’s fans (which I do realize doesn’t apply to every single one) is that they’re over zealous and are quick to insult, both of which you fit. As for hating ashley or zac, just look at haters suck! I made a comment about Vanessa without mentioning Ashley and his response was “well I can’t stand Tisdale or her fans.”
@tina Ashley doesn’t look sickly, she hasn’t had a boob job, she has almost EIGHT million followers on twitter because she actually does tweet, and, again, she has twelve million fans on facebook and Vanessa, who is also completely active on facebook, has only five million.
I don’t know what you’re talking about about Vanessa and her ex breaking up and somebody talking about it… whatever.
@haters suck! She isn’t “done with” Ashley. They’re still friends. It should say something about Ashley’s personality that she’s managed to remain good friends with both Vanessa and Zac after their break up. That’s hard to do.
Oh I see, my apologies…..NOT.
Your comment reeks of double standards.
So YOU are allowed to insult Vanessa about her appearance, but it’s not ok for us to hurl one back. Shut your fish lips.
@A
If I had to guess I’d say she’s dine with Ashley they don’t hang out anymore. Either way I can hope and Tina’s talking about ashley talking about zac and vanessas relationship when it’s none of her business. She talks about it more than zac and Vanessa do.
HatersSuck! – Get some professional help. Watching a football game and trolling a pap site inbetween plays? You must be one confused *******. Or stalkingly in love with Van. In any case, it sucks to be you. Do you have a ***** up your butt while you watch football too? ROFL
Just like she hasn’t had a nose job, right? You obviously know nothing about her, yet you’re here defending her. Please just go away.
Congrats to all this year’s honoree’s. Although I will admit I’m a Vanessa fan, I think all the ladies look gorgeous and the men are looking handsome.
Nothing against Tisdale but it seems to be a *** For Tat situation with the her fan, A. Now when is a smile a smirk and when is a smirk a smile?I think we have to look at the situation. Frankly she is just smiling for the cameras. You just see what you want to and find something nasty to say. I admit her dress does make her look younger, but not as you described a six year old. Nowadays even six year olds dress like adults. Look at Suri Cruise.
@intric8
What u got a problem with football? That’s why I love my job I get weekends off I go see my college team play Saturday and the pros on Sunday. Aint nothing wrong with that in my opinion.
@haters suck! Vanessa was at Ashley’s birthday party this year. And I follow Ashley very closely and I’ve NEVER seen or read any interview or seen anything where she’s talking about Zac and Vanessa’s relationship post break up. I’ve only seen her talk about them individually and it’s always been positive.
@tina she DID have a nose job, to fix a deviated septum but whatever. She’s never admitted to having a boob job. I don’t think she has. It’s called a push up bra. Nothing looks drastic at all. I know a lot about her actually.
@A
That was an awfully long time ago and they hardly hung out before that. And you might want to check again.
@hater’s suck aren’t you a little old to be on here? I thought Vanessa and Ashley’s fans both were mostly teenage girls. Sure, a guy could think Vanessa is hot but I wouldn’t think he would be constantly stalking her on the internet.
@Haters Suck!, that’s what I meant. She talked about it to anyone she could. That’s why half the people follow her because they know she going to tell all her “friends” business. She’s almost 30 now she’s besties with a twenty year old and her eighteen year old bf.
@A
Isn’t Ashley a little old to be hanging around 17-18 year olds?
@tina Ashley’s 27. 7 years is not a long time when you’re an adult sweetie, which Selena is too. You wouldn’t know that because you’re most likely eleven.
@haters suck! I might want to check what again? Ashley did not talk about the Zanessa break up. And she and Vanessa are still friends, I think Ashley just tends to hang out with a more down to earth crowd. Don’t really know much about Selena but she seems pretty sweet and personable, like Ashley is.
@haters suck! Ashley doesn’t hang around with 17-18 year olds… Selena is 20. Ashley also hangs around Sammy Droke who is the same age as her and her high school best friend and her boyfriend Scott who is 30. So you don’t really make a good point there.
@a
She was at Justin biebers 18 birthday I mean seriously? And if you ask me 7 years is still to big a difference.
Yeah because he’s Selena’s boyfriend. And I still don’t really think that’s a big deal. I’m 18 and I have friends and date guys in their twenties. They’re all adults and part of the same generation. 7 years is NOT too big a difference. Not at all. How big of an age difference is there between you and Vanessa? More than 7 years? Then should you still be a fan?
The difference in what you know at twenty and what you should know at almost thirty is astronomical. Twenty year old aren’t even legal. Unless she has some kind mental defect. Is that it? Is she mentally challenged? If so then, I’m sorry, that would explain everything.
@tina 18 is the legal age for an adult. Are YOU mentally challenged? Because you speak like you are. Ashley isn’t “almost thirty.” She just turned 27. 7 years is not a big deal at all. I’m 18 and one of my really good friends is six years older than me. It’s not at all “astronomical.” Especially when they’re in the same business and live in the same world in a social sense. You’re a dumb ass.
Where do you live that 18 year old buy acohol?
@A
Why can’t you just accept Vanessa was recognized for a great honor and move on?
……or even rent a car?
@tina Dumb ass, 21 is the legal age for drinking and 25 is the legal age for renting a car, yes. But you are a legal adult at age 18. Meaning you can vote and own property and be tried as an adult in a court of law.
For crying out loud, I have had a deviated septum and had an operation to straighten and widen my inner nostrils to allow me better breathing but no way does it involve shortening your nose and reducing the bridge. That would be cosmetic surgery by all accounts. There is nothing wrong with her having such a surgery as it is her prerogative if it helps with her self confidence but to use it under the guise of deviated septum is just bull. She should have just come out straight with it and no one will think any worse.
2ndly, yes she did indeed get a boob job, implants if you like to enhance her cleavage just like Hayden Panatterrie. They are not big ones but right for her size. I can bet with you 100% if you’d only look at her many earlier pics and don’t you tell me she’s grown out. She was in her 20s when she did HSM. again nothing wrong with that but to try and say she didn’t have a boob job is downright lying like Michael Jackson didn’t have cosmetic surgery, Sorry I had to use him.
@haters suck! You say that because I made a good point and you can’t argue it. But fine, it is nice that Vanessa is active with charity and was recognized for it.
This isn’t even fun any more. It’s like shooting fish in a barrell.
Vanessa looks great, is dressed appropriately and is being honored for her charity, which she loves. All is good.
@Boji she really DID have a deviated septum. She had these attacks while on tour for hsm where she wasn’t able to breathe out of her nose at all. And she’d broken her nose twice. If she had to go under the knife already for the septum, why not go ahead and correct her nose cosmetically? But she really didn’t change it drastically at all. The bump is gone, everything else looks the same. Like she said she still looks like me.
And really, I don’t think she’s gotten a boob job. But if she did, it’s obviously very tasteful and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it.
@a
What point? About my age? I’m a few months younger then Vanessa happy
Ok, this I will say for Ashley, she is young at heart no matter her age. And I really see nothing wrong with her hanging out with younger people. I think she has more in common with them than those her age or older. Besides, she always get to play characters much younger. Now what does that tell you? Either she is youthful looking or she feels more comfortable in playing teenagers or both.
@boji She is young at heart. But the majority of people in her social circle are her age or older. There just really isn’t a big age difference in 7 years. And her latest movie she’s married and a mother. She can do both.
Oh, and you can be tried as an adult as young as 13. Look it up. At first it was fun messing with you but as all children with limited vocabulary you sink to foul language, so I leave you with your plastic idol.
A, I know she did have a deviated septum but the nose shortening and lowering of her bridge is cosmetic surgery. Let’s just say she had an op for deviated septum and then some. And yes there is nothing wrong with cosmetic surgery if it helps with your self esteem of any kind if properly advised by your Doctor and within moderation. I personally have no objection to Vanessa having hers done but I really don’t see the need to for her anyway. To me she is perfect already.
@tina at least learn enough to know that in america, 18 is the legal age for an adult. You’re a COMPLETE idiot if you don’t know that and have no right to be insulting me. And my idol isn’t plastic. She’s perfect.
@boji She obviously had some cosmetic work on top of fixing the septum but it wasn’t drastic. And I never knew Vanessa had any cosmetic surgery. I don’t think Ashley did it for self esteem. She already had that. Like I said, if she was going under the knife anyway, why not tweak whatever she didn’t like while she was at it?
Efron had his gap tooth closed. Talking about cosmetic surgery. Some even say he had his jaw and nose done. I really don’t know about that. But you compare his features from HSM1 and 2 there is a notable difference. Maybe he’s all growed up as some would say. Now I wonder if he had kept his gap tooth would he still have the hottie status he has today. I think he looked his best when he was leaner. Not so liking his present day look. This is just my train of thought with no disrespect to anyone.
You know actually, I liked Ashley’s old nose. It gave her more character. Oh, and her name sake Ashley Simpson had her nose done and It makes her looks softer, less edgy.
You know actually, I liked Ashley’s old nose. It gave her more character. Oh, and her name sake Ashley Simpson had her nose done and It makes her looks softer, less edgy.
You know actually, I liked Ashley’s old nose. It gave her more character. Oh, and her name sake Ashley Simpson had her nose done and It makes her looks softer, less edgy.
You know actually, I liked Ashley’s old nose. It gave her more character. Oh, and her name sake Ashley Simpson had her nose done and It makes her looks softer, less edgy.
Vanessa Hudgens looks like a younger and much hotter version of Mila Cunis!
Oh, it is Mila Kunis. Yes, she does doesn’t she. It would be great if they get to do a movie together as siblings or something.
@Boji I liked Ashley’s old nose too.
@nick martin Vanessa isn’t hotter than Mila. And if anything Sarah Hyland looks like a younger less hot version of Mila Kunis. Vanessa has her own unique look going on.
So we got gayfron monkeys and now tisdale roaches. Why can’t these people just piss off.
When I turned eighteen, my mother woke me up and said you’re eighteen now, go wash the dishes and take out the garbage. That was her way of letting me know nothing had changed. You can’t go to clubs/drink/or rent a car, legally. Which is kinda sad because you can join the military. At one time you could legally drink but so many children (and that what you are at 18) were dying in DUI accidents it was changed to 21. Reason:eighteen year olds aren’t mature enough to drink. Look it up. All I know is that at eighteen I was offered something that would have changed my life, but would take seven years, to me seven years seemed like a lifetime. If they had offered the same to me at 25 or even 21. I would have known better.I doubt if you’re eighteen because you would realize how limited you really are at that age. If you want to believe Ashley is perfect you go right ahead, sweetie.
@Tina in the U.S. 18 is still a legal adult ,regardless of your own perspective! At 18, our government recognizes you as an adult. Period. And you can legally go to a club. I’ve been to them. You just can’t legally drink. And I’ve already said, I have friends that much older than me and it truly isn’t a large difference at all. Ashley is perfect to me. And you’re obnoxious and annoying. Go away.
@haters suck! Face it a lot of people with interest in Vanessa have interest in Zac and Ashley too, even years past high school musical. We aren’t roaches.
Sweetie this is Vanessa thread, you’ re the one who not a fan here or did you forget? Children have such short attention spans.
@tina I got caught up in the argument started by haterssuck! actually. But for God’s sake, stop trying to speak to me like you’re the more intelligent one. It’s completely the other way around.
@A
You’re a roach to me why don’t you piss off and worry about your own idol.
@haters suck! And you’re a dumb ass to me. I’m not worrying over your idol, but again, you should really choose a more appropriate idol in my opinion. If you’re a male, you should probably have a male idol. But whatever. I’m much happier following Tisdale.
Darling, I have my degree (two actually). My I Q is above 150, there us no reason to pretend. What you are thinking about starting I’ve already done. The reason I won’t agrue with you any more is because, children are fun to play with for a while then they become tiresome.
@A
You don’t even know how to write dumbass, dumbass roach. And i have many idols not that that’s your business. If you’re happy following tisdale then piss off back to her posts I realize it’s very rare she’s posted on the main jj site unless she’s with someone else. So piss off to her posts and leave Vanessa alone
@tina That isn’t true. You can’t even type correctly. You’ve made one grammatical error after another. And if you’re old enough to have two degrees, why do you care about Vanessa Hudgens and Ashley Tisdale fans and the like? Seriously, and yet you want to say that Ashley Tisdale acts too young?
Sb is no reason
@haters suck! I actually do know how to write, thank you. I’m actually quite good at it. I guess when you’re the type of person who has no life then you would have a lot of idols to obsess over and angrily defend to the grave. I’m glad that’s not my cross to bear in life. And I don’t need this site to follow Ashley. I find myself remembering every time I come to this site why I don’t like it, and the number one reason is angry Hudgens fans. And I haven’t been attacking Vanessa at all. What you mean to say is that I should leave YOU alone because it’s hurting your feelings to hear the truth.
@tina What??
Sorry to disappoint you, but it is true. Not only that, but two of sons have graduated from college, also. I’m a fan of Vanessa’s but my friends are in my age group. We talk face to face, not facebook, like you kids.
@A
Haven’t attacked Vanessa? You said she looked like a heroine addict you dumb f*ck if that’s not an attack I don’t know what is. This is a Vanessa post nothing to do with tisdale do why you’re here in the first place is beyond me. Don’t like the site get the f*ck out you dip$hit.
@tina Like “you kids?” Hah. I don’t communicate with my friends exclusively through social media. I just spent the entire weekend with my friend visiting her on campus. Facebook is for getting the homework assignment you missed or sending party invites, not for actual socialization. And within ten years is in an age group. And you definitely sound too old to me to be a fan of Vanessa’s. I’m a fan of Ashley’s but I’m a teenage girl. If I were like fifty or however old you are and were a fan of a girl who was half my age I would most likely feel embarrassed.
“Two of sons have graduated.” You really speak like someone with a genius iq. (that’s sarcasm.)
@Haters Suck! You really really need to rethink your screen name. It doesn’t suit you well at all. I made an initial comment about Vanessa, which on a gossip site I thought was okay to do, especially considering you all do it on Ashley’s articles too. You freaked out and I’ve been arguing with you since. You have so much anger towards me and you’ve never even met me. Get outside and get a little exercise, burn off some of that pent up anger. Seriously. And I NEVER STARTED TALKING ABOUT TISDALE UNTIL YOU DID. You brought her up. Go check out my initial comment. You would never have known I was even an Ashley fan if you hadn’t said anything. And how do you know? Because you troll her like the angry, angry little man that you are.
Haters, this child can’t be much older than thirteen. You can tell by the way she praises eighteen. That’s why I won’t get into an agruement with her. Most of Ashley’s fan’s are underaged facebook followers. Which is why she sees nothing wrong with putting all your business out on twitter.
@A
I’m going to try and say this one more time and maybe it’ll get through your thick skull. I. DO. NOT. POST. ON. TISDALE. POSTS. Do you understand the words I’m writing? When you attack someone expect to be attacked back. I still don’t know why you’re here. This is a Vanessa post not a tisdale one. If you hadn’t shown up and started crap everything would be peaceful in this post.
@Tina Nope. I definitely just turned 18 in August. I’m a freshman in college and I was eleven years old when high school musical came out and I first started following Ashley. If you’re really as old as you say you are then you were probably around 40 when hsm came out. And I don’t really know why you were watching. And I never praised 18. Other than the fact that I’ve just reached it and have been enjoying all the little perks that come with being a legal adult, I was merely stating that it’s just that, the age in which an American citizen becomes a legal adult. Which it is. Put that so called genius IQ of yours to work and read up a bit on the law. Then come back to your precious Vanessa’s feeds and defend her with a little more knowledge.
@haters suck! YES. YOU. DO. I read what you’re writing but it’s complete and total lies. I’ve seen you on Ashley’s articles so many times!!! I recognized your screen name right away when I came to this post. I don’t really know why you feel the need to lie so adamantly about it, unless the other Vanessa fans posting here are your only form of social contact and you really want to impress them. And I still maintain that you were the one who truly started the crap. I know I wasn’t the only one to make a negative comment about Vanessa on this post. But because you DO GO TO ASHLEY’S POSTS you recognized my name and took the time to point out I was a Tisdale fan, and to insult me on top of that.
Sorry but at eighteen I had a year and a half of college behind me. Had my own dorm room, didn’t need to “visit” a campus. If I made an error it’s because I am doing three thing at once. You know multitasking. Something you need to learn if you plan to graduate in your lifetime.
Congratulations. I just turned 18 and I’ll still be 18 when I’ve finished my first year of college. And hahahahahah, I go to my own college campus, the friend I was visiting goes to a different school. How the hell is this supposed to be an insult? You want to know how I know you’re a liar? Because if you were really so old and well beyond my years then you wouldn’t be so petty and take the time to insult me, who you believe to be a “child.” Isn’t it kind of wrong to insult me at that point? You know, go pick on someone your own size and all that. Don’t worry. I DO multitask. I work and go to school and I WILL graduate because I actually am intelligent, just like you pretend to be! :)
@A
Show me these Ashley articles I supposedly commented on I’d like to see them. If you hadn’t come in and attacked Vanessa none of this would have happend. But not you just had to cause trouble.
@haters suck! That would take time. Whatever, I don’t really care anyway. Keep on with your zealous Vanessa worship and continue to scream at anyone who doesn’t feel the same way. Ashley is queen and forever the most beautiful and talented and the perfect idol.
why are you guys talking about Tisdale here (tisdale talk goes to JJJ, not the main site)? she is not even relevant, just wait till she makes another video with young and coming stars (aka Justin, Selena, Demi, Miley), or goes to the beach and/or a party with Efron, or start using Vanessa and/or Austin again…
@A
Yup that’s what I thought ya can’t do it cause it’s not there. Ashley is the queen of white trash and is far from perfect.
@haters suck! No, because I would have to go through Ashley articles and read through all of the comments looking for you. I could find it eventually but it would be time consuming for me. Ashley is NOT white trash. She’s the queen of perfection and is flawlessly beautiful and frankly it’s no surprise to me that Vanessa fans see her as a threat to their role model.
This Vanessa vs Ashley is soooo 2007.
at least now we all can say a Tisdale fan was the one who started the fight here: Maybe she wants more comments on the next Tisdale post. lol jk jk jk -please just like with V’s ex, don’t go to her posts.
She idolize Ashley, i dont know so much about ashley or her career, but what i know is that WE DONT CARE ABOUT HER.
@A
I don’t understand you said I post on Ashley all the time. If that were the case it’d be quite easy to find. And it’s not like there are a lot of Ashley articles on this site to look through. A threat to what? Vanessas younger then Ashley and is miles ahead of her, heck even the same can be said for Selena.
The zac and ashley post I clicked on has over 300 comments. I’m not going to read through all of them. Especially when half of them are from people like you saying “she’s a famewh*ore,” “she’s a b*itch!!” That just pisses me off.
Hey, now what’s this about being too old to be a Vanessa fan? I’m old enough to be your grandmother and I’m a proud Vanessa fan.
@ A you can’t come on this thread, talk crap about Vanessa and expect to get away with it. Her fans are going to attack you from every corner. And worse you have to attack one of us, it is like attacking family here. Know what I mean. Play fair now. That I can assure you won’t find me on Ashley’s thread talking crap like you do about Vanessa on her threads. You talk trash here, you’ll have to accept the same treatment.
@A
Here I’ll help you
http://www.justjared.com/tags/ashley-tisdale/
There’s Ashley tag with all the articles on her. The ones with just her barley crack 20 comments unless she’s with someone else so it shouldn’t be that hard. Admittedly if there’s a Ashley post with Vanessa on it I’ll be on that one cause I consider it a Vanessa post as well. Other than that go nuts.
@boji you’ve definitely commented on ashley posts before too, or at least the ones with zac in them with her.
@haters suck! fine, whatever. I’ll find one and post it later.
@A
You do that and get back to me I’ll admit I’ll be on the ones with her and Vanessa and the Scott and Ashley break up one. Other then that you won’t find me on there.
@Haters suck! Okay, well why would you be commenting on her and Scott’s break up??
Bravo Haters Suck! 199 !!!
@A
Mainly cause ashley pissed me off by announcing it on Vanessa’s birthday. But that’s the only one I’ve been on.
Okay so if you’ve hated on Ashley there and hated on her on any post related to both her and Vanessa, that’s a start to why I would recognize you. And it’s not like Ashley personally announces that, it’s when her pr lets it out.
But anyway, I’ll look.
@A
Whatever you say. And on the Ashley and Vanessa ones I can’t remeber what I wrote but I’m guessing i did hate on her a bit. But when there are posts of just Ashley or Ashley and anyone else you won’t find me on there. And while youre at it check boji too i highly doubt she’s on any post either. Good luck with that.
HatersSuck! – Why dont you piss off, d!ckhead? This isn’t a dedicated Hudgens thread, even though JJ insists on putting her name first. Even if it was a dedicated post about her, you don’t f*cking own it. Don’t act like this is your special place, and everyone else has to kiss up to you and your damn pudgy pudgens or else. You don’t act your age at all. You behave like a freaking infant who isnt getting his way, and then a f*cking degenerate ******* because you can’t deal with people who dont agree with you. I hope they ban your sociopathic moronic asss one day. Till then, shove a flashlight up your butt and get off, you freaking loser.
For a football watching dude, you are a real sissy, i’ll tell you that right now.
@intric8
Damn sounds like I stuck a nerve. Same $hit from you different day. I’ll see you on the next Vanessa post. Hopefully I can get here before you so I can say something about Vanessa before you come and act like a b!tch.
Ya know what that one crossed the line I’m sorry. I apologize to all b!tches out there not even you deserve to be compared to this giant ****. That also includes female dogs who lets face it at least you can be reasoned with.
@intric8
That last game ended a while ago dumbass.
Did you guys listen to V speech?
She was really good, convincing and lovely.
@italian mom
Unfortunately I’ve been busy dealing with these ******** to watch it.
@haters suck! Omg you totally argued with me on the post about ashley and scott’s break up. Yet you tried to pretend you had no idea what I was talking about. BS.
@A cok suckers does this look like an Ashley thread? Fcuking dim witted rug munchers.
@haters suck! Omg you totally argued with me again and again on the ashley and scott break up post and yet you denied having any idea what I was talking about. BS.
@A
That’s what I just said a few posts ago don’t you pay attention?
Anyway time for sleep. Goodnight kids. Don’t forget to tip your server.
@haters suck! Yeah but you didn’t say you had a giant argument with me. If you knew already that you HAD said hateful comments about Ashley and knew who I was then you definitely WERE lying.
Here’s what’s funny. I am still a mystery to you all. But you guys, you’ve given up all your sh!t. HatersSuck! is a dude in his 20′s into dude things like watching football, basically a typical male, but for some reason , he hangs around this particular pap site to defend Vanessa to the death. Boji is apparently old enough to be HatersSuck!’s grandma and a bit old to be considered a passionate Hudgens fan, but also spends an inconceivable amount of time on any of her posts as well. They start patrolling a Hudgens post the SECOND it hits the tape. This is totally perplexing, makes no sense whatsoever, and judging the amount of time and effort put in here and how personally they take everything, well it has to be… personal, in the sense that Vanessa is either family or close friends with them. It seems the only logical explanation.
Boji was also posting all over the scott and ashley break up post, haterssuck! and I know that wasn’t the only Tiz post he/she has commented on.
A, well and how long ago was that, my dear? Respect us and we’ll respect you. Did I say anything bad about her? I do admit I didn’t think much of Ashley initially but when I saw how close she was to Vanessa ESP. After Vanessa’s split with the ex, I changed my mind.
You did imply that age shouldn’t make a difference. Well, being a fan of someone shouldn’t Have an age limitation, now should it ? 18 yrs old and you talk like you know everything.
@A: Have you ascertained his character by now sweetie? HatersSuck! is a lying no good c*cksucker, and a four-flushing son of a b!tch. He and a few others samefag (look that up) around all the time here and manufacture comment support for themselves. So called “italian mom” is actually Boji, also known here as maria, and also 123, and Morethanwords is actually HaterSuck! himself. It’s a dreadfully schizophrenic and dysfunctional environment here. I stick around to help give them sanity. I try not to hold it against poor Van.
@intric8 those happen to all be the haters in the posts I read too. Not surprised.
@boji fair enough, but I was pointing out the double standards in the other older woman tina who was claiming that Ashley acted too young for a woman in her twenties, which is ridiculous.
intric8 you are so funny and maybe a good guy too! but I am not Boji, I am on the other side of the world! I loved that you said ” I try not to hold it against poor V”. Cool.
BTW I forgot to say that those thin beautiful ankles belong to dance!
@intric8: Hey fcuk face, Haters Suck! is a whole other being you *** nog.
@A Stupid egg, your about as intelligent as a raptors $hit hole.
Intric8, think what you want. Is it so hard to believe that there are a good few posters here who genuinely support Vanessa ? If you can’t distinguish posters by their style of writing then, you still have much to learn.
And Intric8, just because you had a heated exchange with Haters Suck you do not have to drag me in. This is first and foremost a Vanessa thread and whoever trashes her here should expect some retaliation.
Bless you Italian Mom, you do say the funniest things. I know English is not your first language. Keep it up.
@BOJI: Applaud. The git still doesn’t realise I’m on the other side of the planet.
And I’m a couple of thousand of miles away myself but visiting family in Australia at the moment. As a matter of fact just came in from cutting the lawn outside. Lovely weather today, Also prepared dinner. You see, we all have lives going on. Posting on Vanessa’s threads is only a small part of it.
@ MoreThanWords, thank you, dear.
Hello Boji!! I try to keep it up, ahah!!
I should explain why I talked about her ankles, which are amazingly thin.
Here we have a famous classic dancer, Carla Fracci, who was almost banned from the La Scala Theatre School because teachers were saying her ankles were too thin and so not able to support the classic ballet.
She became the best. Everyone saying how amazingly light her dance was.
So, just remembering the first moment i saw V in THSM…I thought about this similarity.
And I have to say that I hope she will be offered a great dancing role in the next future.
“If you can’t distinguish posters by their style of writing then, you still have much to learn”
Hmmm… HaterSuck! using the phrase “piss off” many many times throughout the dialogue…
Morethanwords calling me a “git”…
Boji visiting Australia…
You bloody wankers, you’re all from the same different area, aren’t you? Are all of you aussies? Was Vans dad from australia? Did a number of Guancos immigrate there? LOL! It all makes sense now.
@intric8: What a git. Such an obnoxious little **** muncher. Piss off originated in the UK you two bit twat.
Not you, boji, im quite sure you are from the phils
Except you, boji, im quite sure you are from the phils
@MoreThanWords: Cumface, i am well aware where that slang originated and where its used much more commonly in contrast to other countries in the world you f’cking git wanker, and i am much much more than your intellectual match, so if you want to sally forth, i am more than game
hey guyz too much to mention but you really do bonding in V post.. connecting each other in the non-sense unrelated topic on Vanessa’s post bringing up someone unrelated.. this is power of youth honorees are they included in the list??? FYI V is doing great no matter what.. chillax!!
So nice to find after a busy weekend that some Tisdale fan is going off for some dumb reason, accusing some of us for hating on Tisdale. Iadmit to posting on her, when I think she’s being an idiot. But I have NEVER gone on her posts, and said she looks like a 6 yr old, or that she “used” to be cute, etc. i could say a LOT about what I don’t like about Tisdale’s looks. But I DO NOT. This is my last post on Tisdale…..
maria @ 07/03/2012 at 7:17 am
+12
I am so happy that Ashley learned her lesson after last year’s totally inappropriate display with Efron. Both of them were wrong to behave that way, no matter what the reason. She had a boyfriend, whom she cared about, and Efron should have respected that. I don’t care if they’re good friends. He should have cared MORE anout respect for her then. But anyway, these pics are SO much nicer, and you can see they’re having a great time! So happy Vanessa and Austin were able to go this year, since they are BOTH good friends of Ashley’s. Love Vanessa’s summery outfit!
I only call her out when I think she’s inappropriate. Never any other time. And I can’t be bothered with “miss perfect”. LOL. I can’t get into that. But I’m sure Tisdale’s fans make up some of the haters here, who can’t stand Vanessa’s success. Sorry, but Ashley can continue making TV shows that get cancelled and 5th sequels. I’m happy that Vanessa has done so well, without Disney’s help, like Ashley had. She’s doing it on her own, and she just returned from 2 film festivals, with great reviews. Not too shabby. Ashley does her thing, Vanessa will do hers. They are friends, and that’s that. Personally, I think Vanessa has a huge blind spot regarding Ashley, but that’s my opinion. I won’t go there.
@intric8: Oh wait while I attempt to shiver in fear of your empty ‘intellectual threat’. Big words for an a$$ warmer behind an electrical screen. What a beaver licker.
Morethanwords, if you are going to be so lame, with such poor word utilization, really, no reposte is necessary. You what they do to horses in your condition, yes?
@intric8: Watch your language, young man and who you are addressing them to. And stop taking potshots. We are not from the same area. We meet on Vanessa’s threads if that’s what bothers you so much. Not from the philippines either.
NEW PICTURES
http://beauty-vanessa.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1224
http://beauty-vanessa.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1223
@A: Hater’s Suck has a point. Ashley hangs around Selena and Biebs. Even other friends like Sam Droke are younger.
@Yawn: It’s funny… you cannot tell a smile from a smirk. Plus, she didn’t get to where she is now by thinking she was an ordinary girl. She has exceptional talent and she put it to work and now she’s making more millions that you can even fathom. Green is not your color hun.
@intric8: Lmao that’s all you could come up with? My dead grandmother could muster up something far more scathing than that dribble. No reply necessary, and yet you did anyway……considering that you talk yourself up your response proved redundant you stupid horse face.
I would rather talk about Vanessa’s next project rather than discuss Ashley Tisdale. I think it is going to be Journey 3 which may be why she is working out everyday. Josh is filming Catching Fire right now. I think when that wraps he may go right into filming Journey 3. I know Vanessa never discusses projects unitl they are confirmed but I hope this is the case. Journey 3 is supposed to be more epic than the last one.
If not Journey 3 then maybe some other action flick hence all of that working out everyday. But..I think it’s going to be Journey 3 From the Earth to the Moon.
@maria you lie as much as the rest of hudgens’ ridiculous fan base but whatever. And PLEASE, I never came on here to have a discussion about Tisdale. I left a comment simply about Vanessa’s outfit, which could have come from anyone in the world, Tisdale fan or not, Hudgens hater or not. Blame your obnoxious den leader HatersSuck! for Ashley’s name being brought up in the first place. But since you just posted it. (Just now so you can’t say I’m starting this) Ashley and Zac’s pictures were much, much cuter than Vanessa and Austin could ever hope to be. And enough with the hate just because you all realized he never actually loved V.
@morethanwords even if I thought you had a good personality (which I don’t) I could never ever EVER tolerate you simply from the god awful slang and comebacks you use. I feel like you’re probably a target for teasing in whatever country it is you’re living in, am I right? Good. I’m glad.
Vanessa doesn’t look her best at this event. In case you want to know what true perfection and idol worthiness actually looks like, here’s what beauty looks like: http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/2613414326/jpo7ngma0s082ndj8mz8.jpeg
Choke on it and die.
@A: Nothing against Ashley but this thread is about Vanessa, Sarah and Jordin’s awards for their philantrophic work. If you are such a Ashley and Zac fan than perhaps you should go over to their posts which have not only crickets chirping but tumbleweeks rolling through them if you get my drift.
I meant to say “tumbleweeds”.
Aahhahahahah the only reason this post got so many comments is because everyone has been arguing with me forever. And Zac and Ashley both have more fans than Vanessa. Sorry, it’s just a fact.
@A: I think you are bit deliusional but I chalk it up to your age…lol.
@A: I think you are bit deliusional but I chalk it up to your age…lol.
@A
Ashley has fans from what? She hasn’t had a movie since high school musical ended, her tv show got cancelled after one season, and none of the other tv shows she was supposed to have got picked up by the networks.
@chelles that’s fine. Judge me for being a teenage girl, but the last time I checked, in a sane world that’s who the majority of Vanessa and Ashley’s fans were. Are there actually any younger Vanessa fans out there or only creeps? Because I’ve met several Ashley Tisdale fans by chance in real life and never one that I knew of that was a Vanessa Hudgens fan. Maybe I should have tried the senior center?
@haters suck! She HAS had movies since high school musical. Shows how little you know. F*ucking ******* moron. Hellcats got cancelled but she has a new show for abc and she’s filming scary movie right now in atlanta, which, by the way, is a major smart commercial move because everyone will go to see that simply for its hilariousness, and she’s getting paid bank to do it because the film has a super high budget. But I hope Vanessa has fun with another journey to the center of the earth film. Or maybe she’ll do something as wildly unpopular among both fans and critics as sucker punch. Only time will tell.
@A: Vanessa has fans of all ages including me and I am far far from being ready to the senior center LOL. Maybe the reason why Ashley has so many ‘younger” fans is her work on Phineas and Ferb…lol. Not to knock that because I actually love that show.
@A
What movie? ABC didn’t pick the show up. It’s not happening anymore. Oh scary movie where she gets to work with coke heads and jail birds Lindsey Lohan and Charlie sheen. Awsome.
@A aahahahahah because ur attitude is forever out of content!! If u want to show ur idol perfection fine but not in this thread I hope u can read the title topic right…no matter what BFF still BFF no comparison also to the ex of her! I hope u guyz understand and can see the difference in TV and movies, years of age and working years of experience that is not the same just saying!! thank you guyz for more comment in Vanessa’s thread it’s worth it !!
@A: Morning fcuk wit, and no I was never teased, ever. But since you brought it up I’m assuming YOU were. I have many friends as I’m sure you do too, and i really don’t care whether you like me or not, because I don’t like you anyway.
@morethanwords It’s not morning here for me at all. Never mind that I’ve been awake since 7 am Sunday.. Nope. I wasn’t. I’m bringing it up because if I knew you and you talked the way you do me and my friends would be making fun of you all the time. They probably all do, it’s just behind your back so you don’t know it. ;)
@A
Vanessa got paid more for hsm 3 dumbass
http://www.fanpop.com/spots/high-school-musical-3/links/681767/title/how-much-hsm3-getting-paid
And has been getting paid more since. Wel while Ashley was filming her little scary movie Vanessa was off to film festivals in toranto and Venice where her and her co stars movie got great reviews.
@A: Lmfao you are such a Gnat! Ashley this, Ashley that…you probably get more comments on here than her actual threads! As for who makes more……well that’s just hearsay, on YOUR part. Child.
@A: So you’re admitting you are infact a bully?! Typical 18 year old bull$hit tactics. Like I said, I have a large group of friends who are civilised, however with smart mouthed turds bully’s like you, well you deserve the treatment you’re receiving on here.
The never ending story who gonna have big fans, bankable, and what a non sense story just to make fight for nothing but still the one u arguing here still BFF that is the reality! u do a lot of entertaining guyz!!so what if she like this like that then what so the winner is…… this thread for a lot of comment u get it!!
@haters suck! Yeah because fanpop is such a reliable source. Why don’t you check forbes? And I didn’t even know Vanessa had a movie out so it must be doing so well.
Whatever. Ashley is queen. Ashley’s infinitely more talented and beautiful and smart and sweet and relatable and funny and accessible than Vanessa could ever attempt to be and with half of those things she’s not even trying. Have fun worshiping second best. Ashley is perfection personified.
@A
You really are a delusional dumbass little girl. Her movie along with Selena Gomez, Ashley beson and james Franco isn’t “out” officially amd won’t be until early next year. It premiered at both the toranto and Venice film festivals. Do you know what those are? I suggest you look them up.
@haters suck! sounds like poor james franco’s career has taken a turn for the worse.
I’m tired of hearing you all talk about Vanessa. Ashley Ashley Ashley Ashley Ashley Ashley Ashley.
@A
You’re an idiot. If you don’t like hearing about Vanessa you’re in the wrong place since this is a Vanessa post.
@A: #268 An a typical 8 year old post, commonly heard in a playground.
@A
You’re an idiot. If you don’t like hearing about Vanessa you’re in the wrong place since this is a Vanessa post.
@A:
I don’t hate Ashley myself I just don’t find anything about her that I care about, though I must say that I don’t like you comparing her with Vanessa because they are very different and obviously have different goals with their careers and their lives and that’s perfectly fine. Ashley according to you want to make commercial movies and make money while it seem like Vanessa base her choices more on which projects will help her have a long career in the movie business, both are ok as long as they are happy.
I can add that if you want to compare Ashley to anyone maybe it’s better to look at other female actors her age like Keira Knightley and Cary Mulligan, though for obvious reasons that seems like a bad idea. Vanessa on other hand seem to be more up to par with the other female actors her own age, (and sure those that comes from major film franchises have it a bit different but most are the same)
My main point is that I will never get why haters feel the need to come here when they should be somewhere doing something about all the hate they seem to have built up inside because if they’re not careful, that could end badly.
I don’t know who Cary Mulligan even is. And Keira Knightly hasn’t done anything in like years so… a big part of who Ashley is and where her talent lies is being a celebrity. She doesn’t have to be working on a project every five seconds because she still gets publicity and makes a ton of public appearances, and interacts with her fans regularly. She’s a star not just an actress. And THAT’S why she outshines Vanessa.
On another note, when I clearly get to a point where I’m typing
Ashley’s name again and again on this post, you would think you would understand that I’m fed up enough to start playing troll. You are all so serious. You should stop letting every little d@mn thing get the best of you.
NEW PICTURES:
http://beauty-vanessa.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1225
http://beauty-vanessa.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1224
@A
You are just outside your damn mind. I don’t know what world youre living in but it ain’t this one.
@A:
Ok, my bad she’s spelled Carey Mulligan but I bet you still don’t know who that is and Keira haven’t done anything is years? (hello, Anna Karenina, A Dangerous Method, Last Night, Never Let Me Go, The Duchess, Atonement, PotC – trilogy, Pride and Prejudice to name a few)Wow, you really do have your head up your own (or Ashley’s) behind don’t you?
@haters suck! Okay first off: I accidentally just liked your comment but obviously I meant to dislike it. Secondly: I disagree with you, but you are definitely much more over the top, zealous, and hateful than I could ever attempt to be. But of course you think that because you’re that way in the name of Vanessa and not Ash that it makes it okay.
@A: Ashley outshines Vanessa? Okay now you jumped on the train to crazytown. I haven’t read all your posts but it’s obvious you loath Vanessa love Ashley..so why are you here?
@e the only films with any real notoriety on that list were atonement and pride and prejudice and both of those were several years ago. And why is this even an argument? I don’t have my head up Ashley’s ass all the time. I’m aware there are plenty of other actresses out there and I’m a fan of many of them, I just happen to adore Ashley on a higher level.
@soho I know no one believes me, but I really don’t loathe Vanessa. Just her fans. But yes Ashley is prettier and more talented in my opinion and most importantly she seems sweeter and more personable and likeable.
@A
Oh bs you do loathe Vanessa you said she looked like a heroine addict and you didn’t even answer soho question why are you here? Why did you have to come here?
@haters suck! just because I insulted her current look doesn’t mean I loathe her. She used to be BEAUTIFUL like breath taking but now Vanessa’s kind of lost her sparkle. She’s aging rapidly, when she smirks she DOES look like a heroine addict, and she has terrible sense of style. Oh and her hair is always ratty. It’s kind of hard not to point things like that out. And if you knew me you would know that doesn’t mean I loathe somebody. I say things like this to one of my best friend’s all the time. If you could ask her she would confirm. I already said I was here because Vanessa’s hideous dress caught the corner of my eye from my Tisdale post and I had to click on it for a larger image and once I did, I left my opinion. Which is what the comments section is for. Why were YOU on Ashley posts that didn’t have to deal with Vanessa? Don’t play double standards with me.
@A
Wow with friends like you who the hell needs enimies. I’m not on Ashley post that don’t have Vanessa involved. I was on ONE nearly a year ago so sue me.
@A
Wow with friends like you who the hell needs enimies. I’m not on Ashley post that don’t have Vanessa involved. I was on ONE nearly a year ago so sue me.
@haters suck I’m actually a great friend, I’m just honest and I don’t like things like frizzy hair and ugly clothes. Good thing Ashley doesn’t have either of those problems.
Maybe you can get JJ to start an HSM thread so you can continue comparisons on all -V, ex and now Ashley! I can handle Zac chatter because I like him, but Ashley? Really? This is an all time low…
New pics needed! I think she is looking really fit … Do we know what she is up to?
@A: #284 frizzy hair and ugly clothes……you are a bully AND materialistic with a side of shallow, aren’t you doing well for yourself! I see you’ve acquired a few more h8ters, $hit your on a roll!!
I suggest we all stop responding to this blatant Zashley lover, who thinks her idol is “perfection personified” ( rotflmao). She is seriously delusional, has no taste, and insists on being here for some unknown reason to spread love for that dime-a-dozen bleached blonde. There is a reason Vanessa actually has a film career. It’s because she is talented, beautiful, and real. I’ll take critically aclaimed films, film festivals, Vanessa and Austin, ANYDAY over her lousy TV shows, sequels, and groping nasty Efron. Oh, and I don’t lie. No need to.
@maria Hah! YOU’RE the dulusional one. But you know, whatever. Ashley Tisdale is pretteir and Zac is cuter than Austin. Most of all they make an amazing couple, much cuter than any other. And I’ll say it again and I really don’t think this is even fairly arguable, Ashley is much much more talented and likeable. Enjoy Vanessa. She’ll never compare. And Ashley’s not in anyway a dime a dozen. She’s gorgeous and she is perfection. Oh, and no girl in her right mind would protest to a groping sesh by Zac Efron. Ashley certainly never has. He’s given her more than V ;)
Enjoy your flawed idol. I have perfection. :)
@A: You’re such an a$$. There will NEVER be Zashley, sweetheart. You’re just viciously jealous cause Vanessa HAD him for 5 years and Ashley had him for ZERO. Keep eating your heart out, cause they are never gonna happen. She’s a world class control freak, who is known to be a b*tch, and she would eat him alive. And pretty?. LOL. Let’s just say I don’t find fake blondes pretty or attractive in any way. You can have her. And don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
@A, firstly you started off with your over the top criticism of Vanessa on a Vanessa thread. Haters Suck recognised you and called you out. Then you went on the attack against her fans and frankly you deserved the retaliation. You keep bringing up your idol on Vanessa’s thread. It is like feeding yourself to the lions or baiting them. Finally you revert to childlike behaviour and put on a tantrum. You are intelligent, I can see that but it is rather misguided. And you still have a lot to learn, my dear.
@maria Except Zac most likely cheated with Ashley several times. They were kind of obvious about it, talking about getting up together in the morning and her cooking him breakfast. And, you know, being all over each other in pictures before, during, and after Vanessa. (Please stop calling it five years. It just wasn’t. It wasn’t.) Vanessa FLED from that relationship if you don’t recall. What’s wrong with fake blondes? She was brunette for years as well, and personally I prefer her as a brunette but I don’t think a hair color influences a person’s beauty to a very large extent. Besides, Vanessa typically wears extensions, that’s fake hair too, what’s the difference? And I follow Ashley religiously and she is NOT known for being a world class ***** (not that I would dislike her if she were.) I think you’re confusing her with Sharpay.
@Boji So far it’s proved entertaining so why not? But this isn’t purely a Vanessa thread she just happens to be the actress with the most fans on this thread. And I wouldn’t say my criticism was over the top. Haters Suck! retaliated with Tisdale insults. If you’re allowed to defend your idol I”m allowed to defend mine.
Come on guys ease up on @A, you know it’s not it’s fault that grew up to be a shallow materialistic plastic admirer. Besides, at the tender age of 18, it’s probably on the look out for a wealthy benefactor who is likely on their last legs, health wise.
@morethanwords lol you think you’re insulting me but you’re not. There’s nothing wrong with being a gold digger.
@A: Bleet bleet shallow bleet soul less bleet bleet going to hell in a hand basket bleet bleet plastic…..
A, actually you seem to be lavishing all the name calling, Ashley bashing here. I think you’re getting an adrenaline rush from the battle of words. Your replies and retorts are very telling. Yes, your criticism of Vanessa is way over the top and totally uncalled for. If a Vanessa fan was over at Ashley’s thread condemning her dress style, how would you react? You must admit your idol did not always have a good dress sense, just look at her HSM days. She must have had a new stylist. Vanessa for the most part favours a boho style on her casual days. At least she has a distinctive style.
@Boji you’re somewhat right I guess. The arguing can be entertaining. As for Ashley, she’s been dressing adorable for years. She experimented a bit when she was like 20 and very young and just having fun. But from 2007 onward she’s been hitting the marks. Vanessa looks like she’s still experimenting. And Vanessa fans are criticizing Ashley on her posts all the time. You should know, you’ve been one of them before. So y’all don’t really have room to talk on that one.
Yes, I used to criticise her and that was what, 3 yrs or more. How old we’re you then, 14? Why are you bringing up and reliving the past? I’m living in the present and you should do the same. Yes, there will be Vanessa fans who still do not like Ashley for reasons of their own. You have to accept that but now most of us just stick to Vanessa’s threads and if you want to be seen as more mature I suggest you stick to Ashley’s threads and defend her there, I personally have nothing against Ashley but you’re not making a good impression here on her behalf.
@Boji, nooo when I went to that Scott and Ashley article hatersuck! was talking about you were attacking Ashley for who knows why. I didn’t look further. And I don’t represent Ashley. I don’t need to make an impression on her behalf. And I disagree. Based on the things I read that you said about Ashley on that other thread, you definitely have something against. her.
And when was this, can you quote what I said then? I do not attack, criticise maybe.
And when was this, can you quote what I said then? I do not attack, criticise maybe.
Wow, so this child is still here? Now she’s calling her own idol a lying, cheating ****? Only a thirteen year old would find it admirable to sleep with your supposed to be “bestfriend’s” (Ashley’s own words) boy friend. So let’s recap: Ashley = plastic and dyed on the outside and amoral on the inside. Yea, that’s the one to idolize.
@Boji I remember that you wanted to start a “bet” either about Zac and Ashley not getting together or getting together and being terrible or what they deserved for each other. One or the other. There were a lot of different opinions going on from V fans/Ash haters. You also told me you thought I’d bee watching too many episodes of friends. And hated on Zac a lot because all Vanessa fans and formally Zanessa fans are extremely bitter towards him.
@tina I NEVER called Ashley a lying, cheating *****! I’m just saying Zac and Ashley always talked about having sleepovers together, her making him breakfast and doing his laundry, and I know from my own experience and my friends’ that you can’t continually do that with someone of the opposite sex without sleeping with them. I’m not placing any blame or accusations on them, I’m just saying what I assume probably happened. And personally, in my opinion, Vanessa’s just as sad, because honestly if my boyfriend acted like Zac did towards Ashley in interviews and pictures with one of my friends, I wouldn’t be sticking around. If you don’t have any self respect then it’s impossible for anybody else to respect you and you can’t really blame them when they don’t. I’m not thirteen, I’ve already said I was 18, and love affairs can be romantic. I would find it especially so in the case of Ashley and Zac.
That’s not a recap because Ashley is NOT plastic. She slightly altered her nose, big deal. She still looks like herself. And she did NOT get a boob job. She’s just gained weight more recently on purpose. She talked about it to Ok magazine like last week saying that she felt too skinny before and thought she looked more beautiful with a little more curves. (That means hips and boobs which get bigger when you put on a few pounds.) And dyed hair? Vanessa’s hair is dyed too! Everybody’s hair is dyed! That’s no f*ucking big deal or justification to dislike somebody.
Yes, Ashley IS the one to idolize because she’s gorgeous and sweet and nobody could convince me otherwise.
@ A, you know I have to roll my eyes at what you’ve just written. Yes, come to think of it you have been Watching too many episodes of Friends. Zac sleeping with Ashley !!!??? I must say you do have a vivid imagination for tweenager. Enough said.
@boji
Don’t bother. A is living in her own little fantasy world it’s absolutley crazy.
@Boji that’s fine. Yes Zac sleeping with Ashley. It’s actually a common opinion among both Zac and Ashley fans and Zac and Ashley haters who dislike them for that reason, I assume. I still don’t understand the Friends thing but I’ll say that it is my favorite show so I’m not insulted. And I’m not a “tweenager.” I’m a “teenager.” And there’s nothing wrong with a vivid imagination. I write Troypay fanfiction, I’m well aware that I use my imagination when it comes to those two regarding things I know didn’t actually happen. But as far as Zac and Ashley sleeping together I think that definitely did happen. And I think everyone else thinks so too and that’s why they’re bitter.
@ Haters Suck, you are darn right. I’ve said enough. This is just too ridiculous.Troy/Pay fan fiction?! LOL
@Boji/Hatersuck! Fine. But the only reason you think you’re above me is because you’re both Vanessa fans and I’m an Ashley fan. Other than that you haven’t said anything more intelligent or profound. And it’s Troypay not Troy/Pay. It’s a shipping name so it all blends together. A lot of people write or read it.
@A: I think you’ve been either reading or writing too many fan fiction stories. You are starting to believe this stuff.
Only an amoral person would sleep with someone else bf and then smile in there face. REALLY happy you’te thier fan and not Vanessa. Kinda sick…..So she cheats on her bf with someone else bf and this makes her a role model. I must be old because I always though that would make you a sl ut.
sb their face.
Oh, so she just woke up and said “Let me gain a few cups sizes today” and it happened. No weight anywhere else, just larger breast. lol You’re right she’s read fan fic’s.
@tina maybe they’re frenimies. Maybe she felt guilty about it so she couldn’t tell Vanessa. Who knows. Sue me, but I think that love affairs can be glamorous in the right circumstances. WTF does sb mean and why do you keep saying it? And she didn’t just wake up and say lets gain a few cup sizes. She’s gone up like one cup size and she has put on a little weight. She’s still thin just a little curvier. Breasts are one of the first places women gain or lose weight. And I never said the reason Ashley was my role model had anything to do with cheating with Zac Efron. I am a really big Zashley fan as well, but all the reasons I idolize Ashley have nothing to do with him. And I’m pretty sure in your day taking naked pictures and having everyone see them made you a **** too. You know where I’m going with this.
@A
Ask Kristen Stewart if having an affair is right under any circumstances is a good thing. I think zac is a dirty rotten son of a b!tch and my opinion of Ashley is just as low. But never did I hear either of them say anything about having sleepovers, her making him breakfast or doing his laundry. I heard zac say Vanessa would make him breakfast clean his house and do his laundry but never Ashley. Vanessa was papped several times leaving zacs house and they couldn’t get one of Ashley? Where the blue hell you got this information is beyond me I’ve never heard any of it before.
@A: You say Ashley is sweet and better than Vanessa in every way and then you go on to say she probably slept with her best friend’s boyfriend of 5 years? And you’re proud of that? I personally would be very disapointed in V if she ever did something like that to Ashley.
And considering you have never heard of Carey Mulligan (probably one of the top young actresses at the moment) and think Kiera Knightley ‘hasnt done anything in a long time’ kind of shows you don’t know much about the talented actresses in Hollywood these days.
@haters suck! That’s different because that director and Kristen Stewart were not best friends for years and he was married with children involved. Also Kristen Stewart is ugly and can’t act so no one cares about her. I’m not making the stuff about Ashley and Zac up. It’s straight from interviews, I swear. Ashley said Zac’s favorite thing for him to make her for breakfast is french toast. See? Specific. Also, Ashley HAS been photographed at Zac’s house all though I don’t think she’d be so moronic as to be caught leaving in the morning or something. And Zac said fairly recently that he feels like they’re practically neighbors because they’re always at each others houses.
But you’re right. Vanessa was probably the only one to clean his house. I never heard Ashley say anything like that, but then again she knows how to control her men and would never be his ***** like that. Cooking for a man or helping him with his laundry is cute. Being his personal maid is pathetic.
@A: I’ve never seen a photo of Ashley leaving Zac’s house with the exception of when he was overseas to doing promos in Japan and she was supposedly checking on the house. Just face it, Zashley…really hate mashups of names…BTW…are never going to happen. He made the really clear when she tried to climb all over him at the Rock of Ages premiere and you could tell it annoyed him. He is interested in her as a friend..that much is obvious. If you want to believe that Ashley is prettier, more talented than Vanessa so be it. I disagree completely. But sorry, not going to buy that Zac would step out on Vanessa with Tisdale.
@A
Whatever you say. I just plain think you’re outside your damn mind and are taking your fanfics to literaly.
@Kerri: You’re almost as bad as those fans of Nikki Blonsky that insisted that Zac was interested in her as more than a friend.
@xo Here’s why it’s okay: Zac said so himself he liked Ashley first. They were best friends and she probably turned him down because she thought he was too young for him. Ashley has hinted that she was the one to set Zac and Vanessa up. Ash and Zac obviously still had feelings for each other. In the case of best friends who are supposed to be together, Ashley could still be a really sweet person and perhaps do something that could be seen as immoral still. Nobody’s perfect. And if you think about it, Vanessa seems to be very submissive to Ashley. Ashley hooked her up with Zac. She most likely set her up with Austin. Ashley’s always the one driving them around when they’re out together, if you watch them in interviews she kind of talks over Vanessa and commands the conversation. My guess is if Ashley was with Zac she could talk Vanessa into forgiving her.
And you’re obviously just listing your two favorite actresses. If I were to think of top young actresses right now, I would think someone like Emma Stone whose been in a variety of popular films in the past year. And who cares about that anyway? I’m not trying to discuss who’s at their career peak in hollywood right now. I’m just talking about my personal favorite actress, which I’ve already explained I love for who she is as a person and her star quality, not just her work resume.
Don’t bother with @A.
Her view on life is 1) infidelity is acceptable 2) it is perfectly fine to be a shallow gold digger and 3) she likes to write essay length comments to get her point across.
Anna Nicole Smith wannabe, but in reality most likely a short fat dumpy sasquatch.
@Kerri What are you talking about???!!! Ashley went to the rock of ages premier with Scott, and Zac came up to HER and they took pictures together and smiled because they’re best friends. When did she ever climb all over him? Because I’ve seen those pictures and if anything he’s all over her. If you watch the video of them on the redcarpet she even tries to walk away and he pulls her back in and starts whispering in her ear and then they laugh. This is why Vanessa fans are delusional. They try to make Ashley out to be some desperate scheming witch who will jump all over Zac if given the chance but then try to act as if Zashley won’t happen because Zac wouldn’t let that happen. Even though you all think Zac is a douche and obviously he wouldn’t be the one to not let something happen because of Vanessa, Ashley would because she and Vanessa are still friends. Do you see the chaos in the logic? Whatever.
And uhm, ewh. Not at all the same thing because Nikki Blonsky is fat and ugly. Ashley is BEAUITFUL and not that I don’t think Vanessa is too, but yes I think Ashley is the prettier one personally. I kind of prefer the all american girl look I guess.
@haters suck! LOL. My fanfics have nothing to do with this. If I were to create an ideal Zashley world, Vanessa wouldn’t exist in it. And I write Troypay anyway, which is about their characters, not them.
@MoreThanWords: You’re right. That chick is hopelessly deluded and I think her brain has atrophied from reading one to many fan fictions.
@morethanwords
Amen to that my brother.
@morethanwords
Amen to that my brother.
@morethanwords Whatever. I would never want to be anna nicole smith and I’m not fat or dumpy. Also, I’m pretty sure sasquatches are tall not short. As for the gold digger thing, in case you don’t know you have to be hot to be good at it and I am, but I don’t care how you picture me because you’ll never meet me. Way to resort to cheapshots that are entirely off topic.
@A: Can you please supply links to these ‘quotes’ because I honestly think you’re confused. He said he knew Ashley before HSM. What there is video evidence of is him saying meeting Vanessa was ‘a dream come true’ and ‘love a first sight’. So if he did ever have feelings for Ashley, he got over it pretty quick. I dont see how Vanessa has ever been ‘submissive’ to Ashley. She’s even spoken out against a lot of things that Ashley is known to do.
And actually, no, I’m really not that interested in Carey Mulligan or Kiera Knightley. I just follow the film industry and know who to watch out for (Tom Hardy, Jessica Chastain, Elizabeth Olsen, Jennifer Lawrence, etc.) If you were to google any of these names you would know what good movies and good performances are. Most of these girls are Ashley’s age (or younger) and are taken more seriously than she ever will be.
This has to be the nuttiest load of crap I’ve ever heard.
@A: Can I throw stones at you? Sit you infront of me and just chuck em at your pea sized brain. Reality check honey, life is NOT a fanfic. Everything you’ve written thus far reeks of fanfiction material. Jeesh I’d love it get you with a slingshot.
@A: Yes we know you are a gold digger, you’ve said so numerous times now. That still makes you an ugly shallow sasquatch. As for you being hot……lmao good luck with the self affirmation.
And cheap shots????!!!! What the hell do you think you’re doing? So you can say anything about Vanessa, yet you try and call me out on it??? You’re definitely a dimwitted fruit cake.
@xo actually there’s a quote from Zac talking about his “first sight” feelings about Vanessa and he actually said “I’ve never felt that way about anyone… except for Ashley.” Almost every interview where he was asked to talk about Vanessa he eventually drifted off and started talking about Ashley. I think he did grow to love Vanessa, for sure, but I think she’ll always be second to Ashley to him. Even a couple months ago he was being interviewed and was asked to describe Ashley in one word. He doesn’t hesitate and says, “Angel.” It’s adorable .You can find the video.
I don’t know what you mean as far as Vanessa speaking out on things Ashley’s known to do. Examples?
I think Jessica Chastain gave a fabulous performance in the help. Olsen won’t last and isn’t really a big star. Jennifer Lawrence is a huge star but the only reason she’s reached this level of fame is because of the Hunger Games which is like this year’s Twilight. (Yes it’s better than Twilight, but so is everything so that doesn’t say anything.) Anyway, none of that is here nor there, I’m still a huge fan of Ashley because I love her as a person and I don’t care about the countless other actresses who will continue to come along. I don’t have the time to obsess over everyone in Hollywood, but you clearly do, congrats.
@morethanwords you’re taking cheapshots, because you’re insulting me even though you’ve never met me or seen me. But that’s okay. I really don’t want to exchange lame insults with you. And I’m not offended because again, you’ve never met me or seen me. Would you feel flattered right now if I called you beautiful? Of course not, because I’m just a girl on the internet who’s never seen you. I feel the same apathy towards you insults. You can continue if you like.
You’re still a delusional shallow fruitcake. Just embrace your bi-polar behaviour.
@A
You’ve forced me to bring out the video. This is the last message is send you. Please watch this video and absorb it’s meaning. Peace out.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
@morethanwords Again your phrases and insults allude me. I’m a shallow “fruitcake?” Okay. If you really hate me why not call me the c-word? Don’t be a p*ussy.
@A: I would like a link please. I know about the angel thing but I’ve seen the ‘love at first sight video’ and the fan who asked the question was named Ashley, and he says ‘i would only answer that question for Ashley (the fan)’. It had nothing to do with Tisdale. Here’s the link. Listen again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGg-N4f34pA
There were a few interviews back in the day where he would catch himself gushing about V, and then try to cover it up by saying something about Ashley . It was back when ZV were uber private.
Vanessa basically has said a lot of things about people who constantly tweet, plastic surgery, etc.
@haters suck! Hah, whatever ass*hole. The reason I’m not angry like you are is because I follow an idol that’s worthwhile. :)
If you’re ugly on the inside, your ugly on the outside. It doesn’t matter if you’re beautiful because people will eventually see right through your transparent disguise. I never said I hated you, I just think your shallow. As for being a p*ssy, definitely not one, but if you were to call me that to my face you’d better be a fast runner.
@Haters Suck!: haha you kill me when you use this. It’s one of my favorite movies.
@A
Gotta say one more thing watching that video XO posted the girls name who asked the question was named Ashley he’s not talking about tisdale he’s talking about the little girl who asked the question.
@xo I’m not talking about that. Zac was talking about meeting Vanessa Hudgens and said exactly “I’ve never felt that way about anyone… except for Ashley.” And I don’t have a video link, sorry, I read it. As for the so called “covering up his feelings for Vanessa by mentioning Ashley,” why don’t you go find Zac’s old rolling stone interview which was after he and Vanessa were dating. The interviewer asked him about Vanessa. He said like one compliment then (and it said this in the magazine) that without being prompted he started talking about Ashley Tisdale about how very very beautiful she was and how she grows more beautiful every year.
And the reason Vanessa has said things like that is because she’s an arrogant ***** for no reason at all. Ashley is the exact opposite in that she always says things like, “I don’t judge anybody who does, I just don’t do it myself,” when it comes to things that Vanessa does like lip synching and letting somebody else write all your songs for you.
I think it’s GREAT that Ashley tweets so much. It’s a way for her to communicate to fans, which she does because she obviously cares about them. She’s always seemed much more gracious to her fans than Vanessa which probably explains why she has more of them.
@A
I’m sure Ashley would be proud to know she has a fan like you out there; you know the ones that imply she’s a two-faced wh***. You should be proud, if there were people out there who didn’t have the highest opinion of Ashley to begin with you definitely cemented that low opinion with your comments. Bravo to you!
@morethanwords I’m not ugly on the inside, but regardless, if you’re beautiful on the outside, you’re beautiful on the outside, period. “True beauty is on the inside” was definitely said first by somebody ugly.
@haterssuck I didn’t look at the video, I don’t care to hear him talk about Vanessa. Maybe that is the quote I was talking about and I’ve only seen it taken out of context when written. Oh well, that’s just one of many quotes of his.
@allie well then those people are idiots, as obviously I don’t know her personally. And I’ve never tried to imply anything negative about Ashley. If you haven’t figured it out yet, I have an extremely high opinion about her and adore her. And BTW, aren’t you like that fifty year old woman who’s obsessed with Zac Efron because he “saved your life” or something? You hate all over Zashley articles, you’re mega annoying.
@Allie: Agreed, I didn’t pay much attention to Tisdale before, but now that @A has pointed out that Ashley is a ***** who slept with a supposedly BFFs boyfriend, oh but it’s ok because Ashley talked V into forgiving her……yeah I can see Ashley being a twig figured sl*t. Thanks @A!
@A: Well you’re not beautiful on the inside.
@morethanwords You weren’t paying attention. I was implying that Vanessa is submissive towards both Zac and Ash and that even if Ashley did sleep with Zac she could talk Vanessa into forgiving her. I didn’t say she already had talked V into anything. And Ash isn’t twig figured, she’s hot.
@A: Well, I won’t believe anything until I see some links. I was a huge HSM fan back in the day and I know I would remember any of the ‘quotes’ you seem to think exist. I could easily make up some comment and say ‘I read it somewhere’. That doesn’t make it real.
As for the Rolling Stone interview, the interviewer asked him a completely platonic/professional question about V, (after they were busted in Hawaii btw) and his answer is that she is ‘a very, very, sexy woman.’ The interviewer notes that he catches himself and then says “Ashley is beautiful too.” Idk, to me it sounds like Ashley is more of an after thought that will keep the focus off him & V a little bit.
Vanessa obviously doesnt judge others either, if she’s still friends with Ashley despite not liking alot of things she does. It doesnt make her arrogant. It just means she lives her life differently.
@morethanwords How the hell are you qualified to make that assessment? Have you ever met me? You don’t know who I am or what I’m about. I love Ashley so much because she has outer beauty AND inner beauty, and I do agree that it’s best to have both.
@xo: I read somewhere that Tisdale was very jealous of Vanessas curves and admitted to wanting a boob job and that she hated watching Zac grope Vanessa’s a$$ because it made her realise how much Ashley herself resembled an ironing board, flat.
@xo I promise I’m not making anything up. But I’m just not about to go snooping for quotes I read in all those silly magazines I read back when I was a huge hsm fan too.
Uhm, no I remember exactly how the rolling stone interview went. He was asked about Vanessa and he said that people might be surprised as they start to realize that underneath there’s actually a very sexy woman. Then it said without being prompted he goes on to talk about Ashley. And he said, It’s just like with Ashley. She’s grown to be a very very beautiful girl. (She got the double very.)
How about all the group interviews where Zac and Ashley have their own little private moments during? Here’s one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0mB8bG7HN4&playnext=1&list=PLAD804B6B5B5F22F2&feature=results_video
If you find inner beauty to be about cheating and gold digging (as you said) then Ofcourse that makes you an ugly person. On what planet is it ok to be a gold digger (again your words) or to cheat on your BFF with her boyfriend? Does that make you an ugly person? Ofcourse. Deal with it.
NEWSFLASH PEOPLE!!!
ASHLEY GOT THE “DOUBLE VERY”!!
Lmao
@A
I’m not sure who the hell you are referring to since I’m far from 50 and no one saved my life. You said and I quote ” Except Zac most likely cheated with Ashley several times. They were kind of obvious about it, talking about getting up together in the morning and her cooking him breakfast. And, you know, being all over each other in pictures before, during, and after Vanessa” If you think that painted Ashley out to be “Suzy homemaker” you are sadly mistaken; you say you adore Ashley, maybe you do; however, you should have kept that particular thought to yourself because you made Ashley look extremely bad, whether that was your intention or not. You should be more aware of your words, others may take what you say/imply the wrong way.
@morethanwords that’s just dumb. You can’t honestly believe that Ashley would say that in any interview. Even if she felt that way, which she wouldn’t, she wouldn’t admit to it. And I remember Ashley did a radio interview one time where the guy kept telling her she was much sexier than Vanessa and she was giggling and thanking him and then he had her stand up and turn around to show him her ass and he told her it was much better than Vanessa’s. Ashley doesn’t look like a board, especially now, and I don’t know since when a ghetto ass is considered sexy. They should be tight and round but not big. Duh.
@allie my bad. I thought you were this older woman who calls Zac Efron her savior. Why can’t you guys realize that I’m a huge Zashley fan, therefore, Ashley cheating with Zac is romantic to me. You know like a movie with a love affair but it’s okay because you’re routing for that couple and not his ***** girlfriend? That’s how I feel about them.
I didn’t make Ashley look bad, because again I do not represent her or speak for her in any way. And regardless, that would only make her look bad to Vanessa fans, not Ashley and Zac fans.
@A:All I will say about the comments you say are real is this: he/she/they said all of this years ago and we’re just now hearing about it? I know for a fact that the ‘sleepover’ comments and him ‘admitting to having feelings about Ashley’ would have been more well known if they actually said them. You yourself even said they came from ‘silly magazines’. What a good place to get your info.
Oh, wow! Two verys? ‘Vanessa is a very (1), very (2), sexy woman’. Oh, yeah. The Rolling Stone interview is a perfect example of my point from before, he caught himself gushing about V and then tried to even it out by saying something about Ashley.
And for every video you got with Ashley and Zac (as friends) there’s about 100 of him with Vanessa. You know, the girl he dated for 5 years.
@A:
I’m not a Zac fan at all however I must point out something that is obvious to him and that is if he really cares about someone he values their privacy and talk as little about them to the public as possible, one example is his own family, they come up at times but most of the times he keeps them out of it, this really shows the difference between his relationship with Vanessa and his friendship with Ashley, he made the choice to limit talking about Vanessa when he did interviews etc. because he did want to people to both separate his love life from his work life and wanted those to be two different things and that was for no other reason than because what he had with her back then was important to him and he wanted to keep it private. Now with Ashley he could talk about her however much he wanted to because she wasn’t as close to his heart as Vanessa (were) and his family (are), it was also easy to talk about her because unlike Vanessa is isn’t a very private person and he didn’t feel the need to keep thing to himself because THERE WAS NOTHING TO KEEP HIDDEN WITH ASHLEY, and you can say whatever you want but these are fact and that even comes from Zac himself and I’m sorry if you’re too naïve to see it but that’s your problem.
@Allie: She’s painted Ashley to be somewhat of a chameleon. She’s a cheater but it’s ok because she has inner beauty. @A is living in a fictional world she has created through her fanfics. Ashley would have new found h8ters thanks to @A.
@A:
I also can’t recall him ever saying anything special about Ashley, at least not the same thing he haven’t said about all the other women he have worked with and yeah, they are friends but I also have the feeling that Zac doesn’t fully trust her, and I don’t think Vanessa does either hence why when thing got though they always turned to other people and never Ashley, mostly I think it’s her weird friendship with the press and especially Perez Hilton that pushed her away from them , I mean sure, they still hang out with her but I do believe that when it comes to talking to someone it’s not Ashley they choose.
@A: ‘Ashley cheating with Zac is romantic to me’. WTF? Would it be romantic if it were the other way around? If Zac cheated on Ashley with Vanessa would that be ‘romantic’? And you think saying stuff like this on a Vanessa post makes Ashley look good? Wow.
@xo he didn’t date her for five years as much as Zanessa fans insist that he did. But whatever. It was like 3. And it seems to me that Zac had feelings for Ashley first and would have been with her if she hadn’t turned him down. And I disagree. I used to watch all of the group interviews and I’ve witnessed so many more Zac/Ashley moments and yes I’ve read plenty of quotes from Zac about Ashley and frankly I don’t care if you believe them. You could meet you in person and he could say something blatant like “I’m in love with Ashley Tisdale” and you’d still insist that was just him masking his hurt over his break up with Vanessa. Vanessa has no personality. I’m pretty sure he only liked her for her looks because they’re about all she has going for her. She’s stupid and has the most annoying laugh. Ashley is smart and has a great laugh. Things that guy’s like about girls. (Zac’s also said he loves Ashley’s laugh and that it can make him start laughing too just from the sound of it.)
And as far as the interview with him saying he had feelings for Ashley I think you misunderstood me. He said when he first met her (when she was 17) that he had a huge crush on her but she didn’t feel that way about him. Then Ashley has said that she was the one to set up Zac and Vanessa. I was using my own inference to say that Zac went out with Vanessa even though he had feelings for Ashley because Ashley wanted to.
@A: It’s not dumb I read it in a ‘silly magazine’, you know, same place you refer to for hearsay gossip. Yes Asley has an a$$…….thanks to bu*t implants, I think they injected the rest into her bee stings….I mean bo*bs.
@A: DELUSIONAL STALKER ALERT
@A:
It was Ashley herself that said that they had dated for almost 5 years, Zac said it too, strange that it would be the two of them that mention it and not Vanessa since she never seem to have been in the relationship at all.
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You know, I’m starting to wonder if you’re just the kind of person who hears what she want to hear and add thing herself if she feels that something is “missing” or just assumes that is what that person really was thinking even if it was only in your own delusional mind.
@MoreThanWords: How does this fanfiction end? Efron & Tisdale with a white picket fence and 2.5 kids?! Lmao
@e Ashley is Zac’s best friend and he loves her, even if only as a best friend. I know you hate both of them because you’re another one of EVERY FREAKING VANESSA FAN who leaves hate comments all over her articles which is why I feel NO shame in arguing on a Vanessa post one time. Ashley calls Zac her “brother” and again, Zac has said RECENTLY that he and Ashley are practically neighbors because he spends time with her all the time. He’s also said she’s one of the few people he sees on a regular basis. And Zac is NOT all that private. He’ll talk about anybody if it’s going to get him some good press. And plenty of stars are friends with Perez Hilton, like Lady Gaga and Demi Lovato. He usually likes celebs that strike me as sweet and likeable so if he hated Vanessa so much then there was possibly a reason. And btw, during Ashley’s infamous 26th birthday with Zac, Perez put up an article on his sight with a picture of Zac and Ashley kissing on the balcony saying “V Hudgz watch out, that’s your best friend making out with you ex boyfriend.” And then he took it down, because his friend ASHLEY asked him to take it down. So for everyone that’s said she never defended Vanessa to him, I think that’s a perfect example as to why that’s not true.
And Ashley doesn’t have any “newfound haters” thanks to me. You were all already haters of her, undeniably.
@A:
“Vanessa has no personality. I’m pretty sure he only liked her for her looks because they’re about all she has going for her. She’s stupid and has the most annoying laugh.”
You lost the littel respect I had for you right THERE, wow, you pompous behind, you sorry excuse of a human, no, not even human, you’re not even worth scraping the dirt of Vanessa’s shoes.
@A: I think your math is off. Zac and Vanessa dated from 2005-2010. That’s five years. She and Zac have both said they were together for 5 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBBKd3z0jUw
Unlike you, I can back up everything I say. But since you arent a big fan of facts or logic so I wouldnt expect you to believe me.
@A:
You know, I usually don’t pay much attention to these kind of thing because everyone have had bad days however considering how many people have said bad things about Ashley, all which are totally unrelatable I’m starting to think that there might be some truth to it, no, I DO believe that there is A LOT of truth to it, especially now when one of her fans have come here and told us exactly what kind of person she really is so THANK YOU, now we won’t feel so bad about our dislike for Ashley because her fans feel the same way that we do.
You people are all ridiculous. I’m not writing any fanfiction about Zac and Ashley. Ashley didn’t get butt implants, that’s just retarded, which you probably are.
And @e you’re obviously just a huge Zanessa fan. At least Zashley fans can have hope as Zac and Ashley are still close and spend a lot of time together. Zac and Vanessa are broken up together and you’ll probably never even get to enjoy another photo of the two close together. Tear.
And hahahahahhah, see you’re even more over the top than me because it’s my comment about Vanessa that makes you think I’m “not human.” I don’t like people who don’t like Ashley but not everyone’s going to, it doesn’t make me stop breathing.
@morethanwords Well Zac and Ashley would have the most adorable babies ever, so if that’s how it ends, then that’s perfect.
@A: Lmao she probably asked him to remove the damning evidence of her trallop like behaviour. And infront of Scott too, perhaps she saw the paps and saw an opportunity to flash her new purchases (a$$, chest).
@e I don’t dislike Ashley. I LOVE Ashley. And by a lot of people you mean all the Vanessa fans on here that you probably interact with constantly. Not the people who know Ashley personally and love and respect her. If you want to judge her character do so by what those people say and by watching her in interviews and hearing what she has to say. Although I know that doesn’t always happen. The thing I truly dislike about Vanessa are her Ashley bashing fans.
@xo They MET in 2005. Whatever, I don’t care how long they dated. They’re over now forever and most likely hate each other now and I’m much more interested in that.
@A: Scroll up, you said you write fanfiction, you really are dense. I think Ashley will appreciate that you’ve made her a trallop.
@ A Actually Zac himself, said her was in a relationship for 6 years. But you as Ashely’s chief supporter would know more about his relationship than he would, of cours.
@morethanwords Oh, her new purchases? Even though this was 2011 and she’s supposedly gotten this “boob job” after then? Hahah whatever. You guys don’t have your dates or facts straight either so don’t try to tell me I don’t know mine. And everyone had already seen her “damning evidence.” It was on every gossip site and Zashley was trending on twitter. And she didn’t get ass implants! No white girl wants those! They’re gross. Again, asses should be round and tight (which hers is) but NOT big. Big butts are disgusting.
@morethanwords I said I wrote TROYPAY fanfiction. About Troy and Sharpay, not Zac and Ashley.
@tina He hadn’t even known her for SIX years when he broke up with her. And for the last f*ucking time learn to f*ucking type you giant dumbass.
@A: Do you know Ashley personally to have made those assumptions about her and Zac? Probably not but you have mentioned it numerous times on your previous posts, as for the Ashley bashing, well that only started because again it was YOU who had to constantly remark how perfect she was despite having cheated (your stupid evidence is weak as Dilma tea) with Efron during his relationship with Vanessa. Then you say she is stupid. You deserve every negative directed aimed at you and Ashley because YOU started the Ashley hate with all your outlandish claims. Nice going.
@A: You just don’t like to be proven wrong, which has happened twice now.
@A: He just said it in his newest the Blackbook article. It’s here aon JJ you can look it up. Your mother shouls wash your mouth out with soap, such bad language for a tween.
@morethanwords I’ve already said I don’t know her personally, which is obvious. Actually the Ashley bashing was started by haters suck! before I even mentioned her name.
And I think the “evidence” is all in the pictures. Just go look at those photographs of them kissing at her party. It seems pretty natural to them. Definitely not the first time. There are close up pictures where he has his hand on her ass while she’s talking, and pictures where he’s whispering in her ear to talk to her. They’re obvious very intimate with each other and it’s possible that all started after he and Vanessa’s break up, but I really just don’t think so.
@A: Troy & Sharpay….so when did you confuse the two? Stick to what you know; stalking Ashley on twitter and where ever else you see fit to stalk her.
Making a typo is a lot better than being a plastic sl ut.
@tina I’m not looking shi*t up for the last time. I’m not a tween, I’m 18, I’m a f*ucking adult, you cow. Just because you’re probably old enough to be my grandma doesn’t mean you can tell me what to do.
@morethanwords I never confused the two. That’s why I made the clarification. But I do ship Troypay BECAUSE Zac and Ashley have such amazing chemistry both infront of and behind the cameras.
@tina Who’s the plastic ****, me or Ashley? Either way, no I’m/she’s not. And actually, I would rather be that than a moron. ;)
@ A You do know that if a girl is easy enough, a guy would have sex with her without having any feelings, don’t you? Or has your mother explained the birds and the bees to you yet.
@A: Haters Suck! Is ONE person, but now you have a few, possibly more who thanks to you, know the real Ashley. She’s not only loud and obnoxious and loves to talk over people, she is plastic, has no morals, and evidently according to The Book of @A, Tisdale has no qualms about cheating with men who are her BFFS long term partners.
@A: Deny all you want, you got lost in your ship for Troy & Sharpay that you’ve confused it with reality. Stay on the meds.
@A:
They meet at the HSM audition in 2004 and got together in August-September of 2005, and this was after they had wrapped HSM 1, so since they broke up in December of 2010, they had been together 5+ years (about 5 years and about 3 month) and they had known each other for about 6 and a half years when they broke-up, it’s simple math, not rocket science, though for you it might as well be since you can’t seem to count yourself. It was also said that it was Zac that made the first move, you know, I’d say that it’s not impossible that Zac had some shallow crush on her when they first meet, I mean she was older and he probably though she was more mature (though as proof we have now, that’s not the case), but from the first auditions with Vanessa I think anything like that just went out the window, I mean here he was suddenly going to work with a girl who was beautiful, smart, funny, honest and everything any sane man would want in a girlfriend. So to sum it up, Zac might have had some kind of boyish (immature) crush on Ashley and I guess you can say it was first, but the mere fact that he ended up dating Vanessa says a lot.
And trust me, there is also no doubt in my mind that if he had been dating Ashley that the minute he meet Vanessa he would have been just as interested in her as he would come to be.
@tina yes, I do. Ashley isn’t easy though. And in that case he wouldn’t see her again afterwards. And with he and Ashley still being incredibly close then he DOES have feelings for her. Btw, you just pretty much admitted that they have slept together.
@morethanwords do not put words in my mouth. You said she’s loud, obnoxious, plastic, and has no morals. I didn’t say ANY of that. And Zac is ALSO her longterm bff. That makes things different! And I don’t know for sure that she did sleep with Zac I just believe that she did. AGAIN, I don’t know her personally so you don’t know the real Ash. And you don’t know my impression of the real Ash either. You still just know what you already thought you knew before all this.
Oh, and notice how I didn’t mention that he would cheat on Ashley with Vanessa, because unlike you I know that the person I admire has too big of a heart to do that to Ashley.
@e you’re just the Vanessa fan equivalent of all you say I am doing/saying when it comes to Ashley. I think you’re delusional. Vanessa is NOT smart or funny. But Ashley is. And Ashley is beautiful and honest too and oh wait, she’s still the one he sees on the regular basis. Zac and Vanessa were together but they didn’t “end up” together they ended up broken up! Hahah. Ashley will be in his life forever and Vanessa won’t. Zashley fans got the happy ending. Again, we’ll continue to see adorable photos and hear sweet interviews with them talking about each other, and you’ll never have that again. Choke on it. You can just follow pictures of Vanessa and Austin (btw don’t you think that it’s a little sad Vanessa went for Ashley’s SFA love interest. She most likely was set up with him by Ashley too. She seems rather dependent on her friends. Sad she can’t find a boyfriend without her.)
I thought the story was she use to babysit for him and hi’s brother. Guy go back to sl uts all the time, but only for one thing.
@A: Haha now your trying to psychoanalyse me? You git, I never said you called her this’d things, what a ding d0ng! But you certainly give us the impression that she is by all your remarks. You are so naff it hurts! Lol
Only ONE person on this site believes Ashley and Zac ever had sex. You don’t go trolling for pitts when you already have a peach.
@tina: Lmao the fruitcake cannot come to terms with the fact that she started the Ashley bashing with all her comments which paint Ashley as a conniving sl*ut bag.
@tina Shows how very very little you know. No, she met him when she was 17 and he was 15. She never f*ucking babysat him, that’s so retarded. Ashley isn’t a sl*ut. So you obviously do think he’s sleeping with her. Yet they go out for meals together and go clubbing and do other things so he obviously doesn’t go back to her for just “one thing.” Because he truly cares for her.
@morethanwords you said “according to you” you liar. And again I don’t understand your stupid slang. Git? Naff? I’m lost. I’m american I just call everybody a b!tch and get on with my day.
@A:
Well, if Zac and Ashley are terrible as you make them out to be then it was defiantly Vanessa that got lucky she got away from them before they could drag her down with them.
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And how is Ashley smart, and even if she is how have she showed it, certainly not in with her career choices, or maybe your basing it of those tweets she writes where it most of the times looks like they were written by a 15-year-old. Just give it up, you have already almost singlehandedly ruined Ashley reputation though with fans like you she don’t need any haters, the fans does a great job making her look bad without the haters even having to try.
@A: Where do you get Vanessa isnt smart or funny? Have you watched her interviews, commentaries, etc.? She cracks her co-stars/the interviewers up all the time. Some random producer she talked to in Cannes last year even tweeted how impressed he was with her wisdom and maturity. Even Zac has called her smart and she’s made him laugh in more than a couple interviews.
You can praise Ashley without dragging V down.
@A: IM the liar?? Being an airhead just comes naturally to you doesn’t it?! It really does, it goes hand in hand with your selective memory loss. Tsk tsk you are fast losing your grip on reality woman!
@xo/e/tina I can praise Ashley without dragging Vanessa down? True. But you ALL do the same thing to Ashley. But I’ve never heard Vanessa say anything deep and meaningful and I have heard these things from Ashley. It’s true I’ve largely just seen Vanessa in group interviews, but sitting next to Ashley I always thought that Ashley came through as more charismatic and engaging. And Zac always seems more interested in her in interviews when he’s with both of them too.
@tina Zac doesn’t HAVE Vanessa. Zanessa split years ago people. And calling Vanessa a peach and Ashley a pitt is (besides being a lame metaphor) just your opinion. Personally, I would call them both “peaches” if only because they’re both so pretty, but I like Ashley more all around and would consider her the better prize so plenty of guys could too. That’s entirely subjective and depends on individual tastes.
@e there’s nothing wrong with Ashley’s tweets. They’re sweet, funny, and just fun. She DOESN’T take herself too seriously, she says so, and the best people don’t. She just likes to update and occasionally talk to her fans which is sweet and her “15 year old” tweets that you’re referring to are probably the ones where she’s just displaying her own cute dorky sense of humor. She’s young at heart, and I prefer people like that over boring serious types any day. Ashley’s perrrrrfect.
@morethanwords I am NOT an airhead. Don’t dare call me that. You don’t know me, and I’m willing to take any bet that my iq is MUCH higher than yours. Yes, you’re the liar. You seem to be the one with a selective memory to me.
Do I believe they had sex? No, because if they did , Ashley would take a picture and tweet about it.
@tina LOL. She wouldn’t do that, for obvious reasons. And Vanessa’s the one who takes naked pictures that end up all over the internet, remember?
@tina: She’d post a pic of the sheets lol
@xo/tina noooo, she’d take a pic of her and zac holding each other, standing in front of a bed with rose petals on it in the background. Oh wait, she’s already done that. ;)
Ah, but she didn’t put them there. The guy who did is in jail. Who posed in a magazine?
@tina okay, seriously, you’re not about to make Ashley’s allure photoshoot about being ******. NOTHING is visible other than the top of her bottom, it’s just her back, a lot of actresses did it and it was a very well respected campaign. It was about women feeling beautiful. And it was a beautiful picture taken by a professional photographer. It was art. Vanessa’s was her being a ***** and obviously being stupid to cut her face out of a naked photo before sending it. Oh, and she could have at least shaved her *****, blech! And I’ll agree that Vanessa was somewhat victimized in that situation in that somebody else posted them and I felt bad for her to a certain extent. But again, every smart girl knows to crop the face, and shave for godsake!!!!
@A: to mimic an earlier post of yours …..
AIRHEAD AIRHEAD AIRHEAD AIRHEAD…oh look, I just did. Stupid airhead, you have the iq of a gnat because clearly you write what you want to happen, silly little girl with her female crush on a sl*t bag.
@Xo @tina she’d take Pics of the ‘protein’ stain and tweet it and AIRHEAD @A would be the first to comment lol
@morethanwords I’m not an airhead. Ashley’s not a slutbag. And if anybody were to take a picture that disgusting it would be Vanessa not Ashley.
@A: Vanessa sent some private photos to Zac an some a-hole is now behind bars for leaking them. It’s a crime. He exploited pics that should have never been seen by anyone but her boyfriend. Did you forget that Ashley willingly posed nude for a MAGAZINE? And her reason was to prove to people that’s grown up. What a great message to young women everywhere, take your clothes off so people will take you seriously.
Thanks, but no thanks. I’ll take V who made an honest mistake and used it to help others not make the same. She’s never been anything but mature and honest about it. That’s a role model.
@A: You ARE an AIRHEAD and Ashley IS a slutbag because you’ve painted her as such. Heck, you’d probably call the protein stain ‘romantic’ just as you claimed Ashley cheating with Zac would be romantic. Don’t remember that one?….scroll up egg.
@xo LOL she didn’t send them to Zac first off. But choose to believe she did if you wish. And please read my comment about the allure magazine shoot. And uhm, Ashley IS a young woman, not a young girl. She can show her bare back if she wants to in a campaign alongside other famous actresses to make women feel beautiful. Just as Vanessa can take pictures of her unshaved c*unt and send them to some guy to jack off over.
Vanessa took that picture before she was dating Zac. She was supposedly dating Drake Bell at the time but he wasn’t the one she sent them too. She sent them to some other guy because your idol actually IS a s*lut bag ahahahah.
@morethanwords Ashley and Zac sleeping together would be incredibly romantic but her uploading a picture of his sperm on the internet would definitely be disgusting. But she wouldn’t do it because she has class, unlike you.
She never dated Drake, and yes believe it or not she was with Zac ( who the pictures were for) when they leaked. The only thing she ever did with Drake was appear in an episode of Drake and Josh. You know nothing. Sad little girl.
@A: Here you go again getting your facts wrong. Vanessa and Drake both denied they were for him and they never dated. Vanessa was dating Zac at the time the photos were taken. Why would he stay with her if the photos were for anyone else? Is it that hard for you to believe that Zac isn’t that innocent?
@A she had about as much class as the next painted whorebag….you lmfao. Emphasis on had. Now all I see is a desperate talentless whorebag who dumped Scott, fcukec another dude, then back to Scott. Talk about sharing her cottage cheese, that’s so tacky. But then again, I wouldn’t have noticed that promiscuous side of her if YOU hadn’t brought up her and Zac.
@tina/xo Noooooo she was with Zac when the pictures were LEAKED, not when they were taken. Ugh, you guys are so delusional. You just believe whatever you want to. No xo, I’m not retarded, I’m sure Zac and Vanessa slept together, but I don’t think those pictures were taken for him, even if she did later claimed they were (which if she did I’m not aware of it.)
@morethanwords YOU’RE classless. Everything you just said was gross. You don’t know what went down between Scott and Ashley and so what if she slept with Martin while she was single? That’s allowed. And WTF would you call it “cottage cheese?” Do you have a yeast infection sweetie? Get some vagasil that’s not the way it’s supposed to look down there.
Airhead is compiling a novel length reply
@morethanwords that’s because I’m replying to several people at once.
I think Ashley dumped Scott because she thought she had a chance with Zac, which makes her both stupid and sad. You see how fast she went back to the poor slug who actually wants her If all you can say about Vanessa is she made a mistake as a child, I ‘m good with that. All the things your slu t has done have been as an adult (as in over 21).
@tina you’re retarded. Her and Scott broke up because they had been fighting and on again off again for a while and weren’t communicating well. He had been all over the country for his directing projects and she was in Vancouver for Hellcats and then back in LA. You saw how Zac and Ashley were at her party when she was still seeing Scott. She didn’t need to leave Scott for that.
@A What the hell…. You call that a comeback???? For someone who claims to have a high iq, you are severely lacking in wit. And no, gold diggers cannot purchase it online or instore. As for her being single at the time she hooked up with Martin, suuuure, whatever makes you feel better. If you find anything I say gross or repulsive, well I’m just following your lead.
@fg: Once again you’re wrong. The dates the pictures were taken/sent were released during the 2009 batch and they were definitely together at the time. HSM filming was over and they were already dating. I remember one of the dates he was at a baseball game.
@tina: Ashley dropped Martin and hightailed back to Scott in the blink of an eye! Seriously though, it was during this fiasco that I had doubts about Tisdales so called friendship with Vanessa. She’d attempt to steal Shadow if she thought it’d give her another 15 minutes of fame.
@morethanwords I didn’t think I had made a “comeback” at any point so I’m not sure what you’re referring too. And again, as far as my intelligence goes, I really don’t care what you think, because I am absolutely certain it’s much greater than yours. Uhm, yeah, she was. Martin was her rebound after Scott. I actually felt a little bad for him, he seemed like a nice guy.
@xo Hahahahhaahh! Okay, choose to believe the story that her pr leaked. Have you seen the pictures? I have. Just look at her room. It’s obviously in her home with her parents. Don’t you think after all her hsm money she would have something a little nicer? Hahahahahahhahahah, and you say I’m delusional.
Enough with this tisdale bull. She irrelevant. What is relevant is spring breakers and Vanessa. At the toranto film festival, biggest breakout potential. It was so big they had to turn over 200 journalists away cause to many people wanted to see it.
http://bullettmedia.com/article/the-best-and-worst-at-tiff/#.UFjVagQ-txY.twitter
Gotta love it. Can’t wait.
She broke up with him after the party because she thought, just like you seem to, that a pawing by an obviously drunk guy means he loves you.
@A: I am absolutely certain that everything you say is plaque. Your iq isnt any higher than my shoe size so why are you talking yourself up? Btw thanks for taking Vanessa board near the 500 mark, considering Ashley’s has 24, and you’ve made a comment, yet there are people bashing her there, you’re still hanging around like a pesky insect.
Love it ‘ everybody and their liitle sister’ lol
@tina
Damn straight. This things gonna be bigger than people think.
@morethanwords you’re so dumb. Martin was her rebound. She obviously still had feelings for Scott, and yes, she did somewhat kick Martin to the curb, but she and Scott had history. If she had dumped him just for a chance with Zac then she wouldn’t have hooked up with MARTIN. Obviously. And Ashley has Maui. She doesn’t need to steal Shadow. Fifteen minutes of fame? B!tch, go look at Ashley’s 12 million facebook fans and 8 million twitter followers. She’s very famous and very loved by her many, many, many fans.
@tina I don’t even know what you’re talking about. Martin was dating Ashley. They spent new years together and he took her away on vacation for valentines day. She owned him. He was wrapped around her finger and she walked him around like he was her property.
Thanks for the linkage to what will obviously be amazing movie. Suck on that airhead! Can’t wait to see it!
@A: Here we go again, yes that was the room in her parents house. She didn’t buy her own place until 2008 right before HSM3 came out. I’m not sure where you’re try to prove with that but ok. Her pr team didnt leak the dates, they were on the site the pics came from. And yes, between the two of us, you would be delusional. I don’t say anything I can’t back up, where you post opinion as fact and have zero proof. I’ve proved you wrong several times now. Give it up.
@A won’t be able to see it it’s rated R.
@A: If only you took the time to psychoanalyse yourself, you’d see how dumb you really are. But I wouldn’t recommend it, it could prove deadly, all that air in your head…….then again, would that really be a bad thing!?
@xo you haven’t proved me wrong once. I don’t care. When Vanessa’s movie bombs I can laugh. And when Ashley’s still relevant in ten years and Vanessa isn’t I can laugh. And when Zac and Ashley are still taking pictures together and praising each other while Zanessa fans are crying themselves to sleep at night because the two are never getting back together, I can laugh.
@tina: @A is still in diapers
@tina You can go see rated r movies at 17 you dumbass what country are you from? But I WON’T go see it, I’ll be going to see Ashley’s own rated r film which will be much better. Everyone loves to laugh.
@morethanwords you’re just lame. Don’t you dare try to tell me I lack wit. I’ve not yet tried to display any towards you, but this is clearly your attempt at clever insults and it’s just ridiculous. You can call me an airhead all you want sweetie. I know for a fact that I’m not one and you aren’t hurting my feelings by trying to convince me I am.
@A: Lmao anyone but Gayfron, your two cheaters are welcome to each other. I can laugh because you sound like an idiot !
@A
You wouldn’t be able to get in to see Vanessa’s movie anyway. Like the article said so many people wanted to see it they had to turn 200 people away because the theather was packed.
@morethanwords you really DO sound like an idiot to me and not because we belong to different fandoms but because you speak like a friendless twelve year old. Gayfron? Woah, good one. I bet you’re one of those Vanessa fans that was all about Zanessa until they split and now you despise him. Whatever, Zashley will get together one day and it will be ahmazing! :)
@haters suck! yeah, I’m sure once it’s in theaters people will be lined up to see it throughout it’s duration and only the very exclusive will get in. LOL.
You dared me not to call you an airhead and I did. Honey you lack all forms of wit because your head is so far up Tisdales piehole you can’t see straight. It’s not an attempt at clever insults, it is what is is, an insult. I’ve said so before and I’ll repeat it just for your benefit, you are shallow and materialistic, it wouldn’t surprise me that you have no feelings. Other than how you feel about Tisdalewhorebag.
@A: Zanessa was stupid to begin and Zashley????…..like I said your two cheaters are welcome to each other. Besides, Gayfrons sexuality has long been in question, good luck with closet boy.
@morethanwords YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT. DO NOT KID YOURSELF AND BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE.
You know what? I AM materialistic. I don’t try to hide it. People can assume I’m a vapid airhead because of it but the fact is I have an iq of 150 and got a near perfect score on my sats. I’m not dumb at all. And I DO have feelings. Yes, I love Ashley. I also love people that I actually know personally.
And it’s only an insult if the person you’re speaking to finds it insulting.
@a
Least Vanessa and Selena got the honor and chance for their movie to go to film festivals in Venice and toranto. I highly doubt scary movie is going anywhere.
@A: I’ve proven you wrong at least 2 times. Zac never said anything about Ashley and it being love at first sight and you still dont want to believe that he dated V for 5 years. I even posted videos just for you.
Yet we’re supposed to believe anything you say when, not only have you gotten almost all of your ‘facts’ wrong, but you have nothing to prove it. You sound like you’re just bringing up some old J-14 articles from 2005 or something.
And lol at ‘Ashley will still be relevant’. She’s not even relevant now.
@haters suck! So? Scary Movie will undoubtedly do great in the box office. It’s a franchise, that’s not the kind of film that goes to festivals. Plenty of movies that go to those festivals still bomb once they hit mainstream theaters. So we’ll see.
@morethanwords Hahah okay. I’d say Zac definitely isn’t gay. And he and Ashley are adorable together.
@A: LMAO wow you must really be seeing red now because AIRHEAD I never claimed to be intelligent, you read what you wanted to read so thanks for calling me intelligent AIRHEAD. As for your iq, well we all possess iq’s of 150, only difference is we aren’t so pompously arrogant about it hahaha
@A
I can’t even tell you the people who were in the first scary movies. And I heard the only reason tisdale got the part was because the person they originally wanted dropped out.
@xo you haven’t “proven me wrong.” 2005? Okay well hsm came out in 2006 so get your facts straight, and no I’m just mentioning things I’ve read over the years. I’m not making anything up, I swear.
I think you’re just a hateful person in general. You always leave very nasty comments about Ashley. I don’t know how anybody could hate her, but you clearly do and it doesn’t matter what I do or how many “facts” I give you. You’re only going to believe what you want to believe, period. I think Zac has feelings for Ashley. You don’t. They could get married and that wouldn’t change.
And again. Ashley has TWELVE million facebook fans. Vanessa has FIVE. Can you do math sweetie? That’s SEVEN MILLION more fans that Ashley has that Vanessa doesn’t. Ashley definitely IS relevant, but if she isn’t then Vanessa isn’t even a blip on the radar. Vanessa has even said herself that Ashley’s the one with more fans.
Near perfect SAT…..NEAR ……..near……so close but not quite. Missed the mark. Not 100% but NEAR…..I’m so sad for you! From your self proclamation at a high iq……..NEAR PERFECT doesn’t quite fit in with this supposedly intelligent person you claim to be. Still, very sad for you.
@morethanwords That’s not true. Your iq is definitely nowhere near that level. I’m absolutely certain.
@haters suck! Shut the f*uck up. Anna Farris is the star from the originals and she’s funny and cute and very entertaining. And that’s not true. I follow Ashley very closely and have never heard anything to that affect. And considering my source is YOU, her biggest hater, I refuse to believe that. If I ever met you in real life I would spit in your face.
@A
Well then I guess Vanessa and Selena’s movie will do really well. Selena has over 33 million fans on facebook and even more followers on twitter than Ashley. Since hsm ended Vanessa has done 4 movies and still has 4 movies still to come. Ashley is doing her first movie since hsm ended. I’ll take that any day over twitter and Facebook followers.
@morethanwords uhm, okay? Even Bill Gates didn’t get a perfect score. And I’m not delusional, I know I’m not as smart as that guy. In order to do perfectly I would have to be.
Come on guys Tisdale needs as many fans as possible to keep her star status!! Let’s get behind @A and join FB just so she can have that much more fans than Vanessa……@A = idiot.
@haters suck! well then based on what you just said everybody will see the movie for SELENA not VANESSA. And oh, guess who Selena is good friends with? ASHLEY. Ashley is NOT doing her first movie since hsm ended dumbass. Shows how much you know. Aliens in the Attic, Picture
This, Sharpay, and Scary Movie. She also did Hellcats. Oh and had two albums that outsold Vanessa’s. ;)
And the twitter and facebook followers are her FANS. Because Ashley has fans and Vanessa doesn’t have even half as many. And the reason that Selena has so many more facebook fans is because she still does a lot of music so people list her on their pages for that. The twitter comparison is a fairer one, although it has to be said if she weren’t dating stupid bieber she probably wouldn’t have that many. Either way, I like Selena so that’s not really an argument for me.
@A: 1) I wouldn’t boast about my iq on here, and it’s a shame you did, because it came across as a desperate attempt to cement your foothold as an academic, epic fail 2) if I met you in real life I’d put my hair into a bun before landing a sweet right hook to your jawline. Might knock some sense into your air filled head.
@A: A whole rant about nothing. Wasted 10 seconds of my life reading that dribble.
@morethanwords Ashley already has many, many more fans than Vanessa… she doesn’t need morons like you. I’m not trying to appear like an “academic.” I was just arguing your persistent airhead comments. And you would NOT hit me. If you did the retaliation would be much worse and of a psychological nature, I promise you.
@A
Never heard of aliens in the attic. Picture this was a tv movie so was sharpay and that’s still hsm. Hellcats was a tv show not a movie that got cancelled after one season which I don’t get. Where were all her Facebook and twitter followers why didn’t they watch the show? And I guess that means people will only watch scary movie cause like you said it is a franshice.
@A: I never said hsm came out in 2005, what are you talking about? I said they’ve been dating since 2005. And yes, you said he said it was love at first sight with Vanessa, and then he said the only person he’d ever felt that way about was Ashley. That’s not true. Watch the video. He was talking about a seven year old.
And then you said he only dated V for 3 years. So you’re calling Zac, Vanessa, and Ashley all liars.
As for the Facebook thing, Ashley has been active in the social media game longer than Vanessa has. Vanessa never posts on any of her accounts, the reason she got them was to stop all the imposters. There’s no reason to follow an inactive account.
And I’m not the one calling people horrible names when they prove me wrong and point out how silly I sound.
I belie facts, which you have yet to post. I’ll believe what’s real.
@A: can’t do much when you’re ko’ed airhead, yes you are still an airhead. You’d be down for the count, done correctly on your nose you’d be out permanently. Good riddance to big mouths I’d say. That was a sarcastic comment about backing Tisdale. You REALLY are empty up there aren’t you?!
@haters suck! well aliens in the attic was in theaters. And so what if Picture this was for tv? Vanessa did bandslam and sucker punch both for theaters and they BOMBED and were gone in like less than two weeks. I remember I even wanted to see bandslam and it had like just come out and yet it was already gone from the theaters. And again Ashley did much better with albums. The reason hellcats got cancelled is because while the overall ratings were good, they didn’t have enough for the CW’s “target audience” which is ridiculous because it’s women in their thirties when it’s a show about college cheerleaders. Ratings dipped in the middle of the season and were great by the end again but it still got cancelled. I was sad but a lot of other shows got cancelled too. And keeping a television show on air is very difficult. there’s a lot more that goes into it than that little bit I mentioned.
@xo she uses her facebook. I just searched her and she updated 35 minutes ago. 5 million people saw it. 12 million saw Ashley’s last post. These ARE the facts. All the evidence is backed up now. Go check facebook. It’s real. Believe it.
@A
Mila Kunis only has 800,000 Facebook fans. Are you honestly going to tell me tisdale is a bigger star and has more fans than mila?
@morethanwords I KNOW that was a sarcastic comment about Tisdale. What I was saying was that it was a stupid place to be sarcastic because Ashley ALREADY has more fans than Vanessa. No, you would not knock me out. And if you did, you’d regret it later. I’d just ruin your life in a much greater sense.
@haters suck! She has more FANS, yes. Mila Kunis is a great actress and I really like her, but yes, Ashley has a larger fanbase, even if Mila has done bigger films.
@A: Vanessa herself doesn’t use it. Her team runs it. Nothing they post is worth following. And say why you want about Bandslam but it was one of the best movies of 2009 according to the critics. Speaking of which, the only negative review she got for the movie was that she was too pretty for the part.
@A
Ok that’s it. If I wasn’t convinced you were crazy before i definitely do now. There is no way in hell tisdale has a bigger fanbase then mila. I wouldn’t even say Vanessa does with her 5 million Facebook fans. Not everything is judged by Facebook. This is complete insanity.
Ofcourse I would knock you out, flat on your back, honey you are no Hannibal to play psychological games with me. What I have learnt through everything that was thrown to me was that people like you need to be brought down a peg or two. The reality is you are nothing but a hallow excuse of human excrement who lives vicariously through a celebrity. A star who could sue you for slander because of your assumptions about her infidelity with another celebrity, who has every right to sue to as well. At the age of 18 you think you possess some mind altering talent that could cause me any damage? That’s laughable, there is nothing you can do or say that would damage me enough to not follow suit with a left hook.
@Haters Suck!: Quoting Cypress Hill, @A is, “insane in the membrane, insane in the brain!”.
@xo So? Bandslam only grossed 12 mil worldwide. That’s TERRIBLE. It doesn’t matter what critics thought, no one went to see it.
@haters suck! if I had to guess I would say both Ashley and Vanessa have more FANS. Or maybe Mila has a lot of fans but probably not nearly as many HUGE fans like Ashley and Vanessa have.
@morethanwords No, Ashley isn’t a ridiculous person like you, and she would never “sue” somebody over mere speculation made in the comments section of some gossip site. I could sue you for physical threats and what with all the cyber bullying hype I’d probably be successful. You really are an angry person. You don’t know me at all. The fact that if you met me you would immediately resort to physical assault speaks volumes about just what kind of no class person you are. And believe me, I’m capable of some pretty harsh things. If I knew you personally, I could ruin you. I promise. It’d be great if you challenged me, that would only serve to entertain me more. Btw, Ashley didn’t “sue” Perez for publishing about her “infidelity” with another celebrity. You really think she’s scouring gossip sites for comments?
@A: You ARE an airhead, so what you are doing isn’t bullying is it? But Ofcourse not but you are INTELLIGENT with near perfect sat…near…only near. How about I sue for your psychological threats? You are beyond lame, you said you’d spit in Haters Suck! face, who knows what diseases you have, and equally classless. How about you get sued for that? You’ve only succeeded in making yourself to be one giant pile of Tiadale poo.
@A
That’s a bunch of bull. Facebook doesn’t mean anything, it’s not the judge. I would not say Vanessa has a bigger fan base than mila it’s not true. And I definitely wouldn’t say Ashley has a bigger fan base then mila either. Its a load of crap Facebook is not the end all be all.
@morethanwords if you were actually intelligent you would have managed to push my buttons a couple of times. Even xo and hatersuck! have a couple of times with tisdale insults but not you, because you’re just ridiculous. I have a LOT more class than you, or if you think I don’t, I at least have the ability to appear as though I do. And I’m absolutely proud to be a Tisdale fan. She’s amazing and perfect and gorgeous, things you’ll never be.
@haters suck! Uhm, okay? Let me guess, you’re a huge Mila fan too? Whatever, please don’t start talking crazy and ruin her for me too. And I think facebook is very telling as far as fanbases go because everybody has one. And if you’re a BIG enough fan of somebody, you’re going to take the time to like them on facebook.
@A: How little you know with the high and mighty opinion of yourself. Ofcourse your buttons were pushed, you can’t say they weren’t with your empty threats offend games. You have as much class as your cosmetically modified plastic idol.
@A: How little you know with the high and mighty opinion of yourself. Ofcourse your buttons were pushed, you can’t say they weren’t with your empty threats off mind games. You have as much class as your cosmetically modified plastic idol.
@morethanwords well that actually WAS a compliment, because Ashley is all class. She’s such a beautiful person inside and out and to ever be compared to her in even the smallest way could never be taken as an insult.
@morethanwords well that actually WAS a compliment, because Ashley is all class. She’s such a beautiful person inside and out and to ever be compared to her in even the smallest way could never be taken as an insult.
This is such a load of crap. Yes I like mila but I just used her as an example. I give you another on I’m a big football fan i love the Dallas cowboys. Only has 10 million facebook fans if I tell me Ashley has a bigger fan base then the Dallas cowboys I swear Ill find someway to slap you not even selena with her 33 million Facebook fans does.
@A: Only you would see it as such, call it denial.
@haters suck! that’s different. An entire football team that’s been around for generations is not the same thing as one individual person. Face it. Vanessa has a lot of fans, Ashley has a lot more.
@morethanwords not only me. Anybody who adores Ashley Tisdale.
@A
This is the most insane $hit I’ve heard. You base everything off Facebook. I don’t think Facebook is an indicator of crap.
@A: You are the spokesperson for Tisdalewhorebag ate you not? You would know more about plastic than we would.
Whatever. Ashley still has more fans. She isn’t plastic or a *****. She’s amazing and more beautiful than any girl you’ll ever meet.
She’s still trailer trash. Trailer trash Tisdale.
She is NOT trailer trash. And now who’s superficial. You shouldn’t judge people for living in trailers, right?
@A: @A: you shouldn’t judge people for their choice of dress right? TTT.
Yeah, but I’m just calling double standards on you. And Ashley never lived in a trailer park. She was a cute little commercial kid.
Oh my, this is just epic. MoreThanWords, Haters Suck, And Tina. I just love your responses. Hilarious and entertaining!!! You lot and The others have said it all. I can only shake my head in disbelief at the things A has written.
A, you’ve really made out Ashley to be promiscuous. Some of the pics of her hasn’t helped. I recall her wearing a transparent skirt where you can see her whole behind and g string panties and the paps had a field day. Even saw her boobs before she had her op, nipslip the paps said. Not big by any means and she didn’t fill out her cups. And you are saying that she put on some weight, therefore her boobs got bigger? Are you kidding me!?!
@Boji I never made her out to be “promiscuous.” The transparent skirt thing with the thong was a long time ago, it was an accident, and who cares because she has a hot ass. And anyway, she doesn’t care because she’s uploaded pictures of herself in underwear and lingerie on her instagram more recently. Vanessa is the one who took disgusting unshaved naked pictures of herself. THAT’S ******.
Yes, she put on a little weight and started using push up bras, most likely.
A, in your earlier post you admitted Ashley had a boob job, now you are flat out denying it. I had already accepted that Ashley was bffs to both Zac and V. Now you are telling us that Ashley is a friend with benefits to Zac. I had some respect for Ashley but now you, A have made me see her in a new light, a pretentious, conniving, scheming, backstabbing two-faced s lut thanks to you. For this, I have to thank you, A. Never in the world did it ever cross my mind but you have changed all that. Why, she is worse than Kristen Stewart, worse than any episode of Friends.
@Boji I NEVER admitted to it. I said it was possible, which it is, and said IF she did that it was obvious still very tasteful. Go back because you misread. Anyway, there’s nothing wrong with Ash and Zac being fwbs now. And Idgaf what you think “I made you see.” My God you’re so idiotic. If you don’t believe that Ashley and Zac have hooked up, then your opinion of her shouldn’t have changed. If you believe they did, then that’s not my fault. And I don’t have respect for anybody that doesn’t love Friends. Are you even human? I’ve never met a person who doesn’t like Friends. It’s like asking if you like puppies.
@A
Let me ask you a question. If your boyfriend cheated on you (no matter who the other person was) would you still find it acceptable and glamorous?
@Allie, nooo, obviously I’d be pissed. But Ashley wouldn’t be in that position. And I believe that obviously a girl shouldn’t date her best friend’s guy best friend because it will be hard for them not to have some feelings for each other that have probably been suppressed. So I wouldn’t be the Vanessa so that that wouldn’t happen to me.
@allie
See what A did there. If zac and Ashley cheated on Scott and Vanessa it wouldn’t be their fault. It would be Scott and Vanessa’s for putting themselves in that position. As long as you’re best friends cheating is perfectly ok. What a load of bull
That’s not what I’m really saying! I’m just saying that Zac and Ashley were already close before Vanessa even came along and that if they really love each other then she shouldn’t matter at that point.
@Haters Suck!
Yeah, that’s the same impression I got as well.
@A
No matter the words you use and the explanations you give, there will never be a good excuse for cheating. You think it’s ok, but you won’t find many people that share that same view.
The plot thickens, as I said this is worse or should I say better than episodes of Friends. How shallow can someone be, not respecting a nother person because he/she doesn’t love “Friends”!! So if your mom or sis/bro doesn’t adore Ashley, than you’ve lost all respect for them?Me thinks, you spend your days dreaming of TroyPay, excuse me, Zashley and all the naughty things they’d do together. You really need a reality check.
@allie this is your fanfiction is it not? http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2744167/Teddybear-no1
what about all the cheating that goes on in your freaky, weird stories?
@A
That’s not allies fan fiction I know who’s it is. That’s Merlin’s mum aka mum of Merlin aka butterfly on zac posts.
@A
I don’t agree with your logic, nor do I see any excuse as being acceptable for cheating; however, you are entitled to your opinion and I’m going to leave it at that.
You guys have a good evening, but I’m done arguing this topic.
@A
I mean not butterfly it’s bunnylover on zacs posts
@A
You still have me mixed up with that person you were referring to earlier. I’m not 50 and Zac didn’t save my life (although I’m not sure what the hell that’s about, but whatever) I don’t have a fanfiction account.
@A what a clown lmfao back to fanfiction???!! Lmfao
There was an Ashley fanatic
Who loved writing fanfics,
So much so she believed em
To be real, oh bunk em
Wanted Sharpay to end up with Troy
Poor Gabi it was all a ploy,
Meant to be TroyPay
Not TroyYella, hey A
She inviegled her friendship
With Gabi for her own benefit
Got a nose job and a boobjob,
To entice Efron
Even changed her hair colour
For the fella
But alas, he didn’t want her
Poor Deluded Ashley,
Feeling so ghastly,
She returned to Scott
Who was by far a better shot.
And so the story goes……….
@BOJI: BRAVO BOJI!!
Thanks, lousy at it but I do try. Had fun anyway.
@Boji you’re right, you’re lousy at it. Next time, don’t try. Just give up while you’re still ahead. And your theories make no sense. Wouldn’t Ashley just break up with Scott immediately after Zac and Vanessa broke up if she were wanting to entice him and the only issue was him not wanting her back? And she got a nose job and a boob job to entice him, but she decided to space them out between four or five years in order to take her time in this process?? So dumb. I maintain that whatever there is between Zac and Ashley is definitely complicated, but he absolutely does care about her and definitely is attracted to her.
Rolls eyes….
@boji whatever. You’re like a bajillion years old and worship a girl who’s like 24. Shouldn’t your idols all be dead? And if you can’t tell that there is a mutual attraction between Zac and Ashley then you haven’t been paying attention well over the years. Zac obviously cared about Vanessa but you can still love two people at once, and you can love one of them more too.
@BOJI: Lmao rolling eyes hahaha
I think it’s safe to say @A is a jacka$$, who resorts to name calling if anyone speaks against trailer trash Tisdale.
@A : Hee Haw hee haw snort..
Yep, you can go shoot down my idols. Get your guns ready, steady now , ok aim…..Mick Jagger, Madonna, Lionel Richie, Steven Tyler, Donny Osmond, no wait all dem Osmond bros, Michael Jackson(oops he’s dead)Just realised didn’t have any movie idols, sorry to disappoint you. Wait till you reach my age, then you can look back and hopefully realise what an idiot you’ve been.
@Boji I actually like everybody on the list except for the osmonds. And no, I’ve not been an idiot. Just because I like a different actress than you. You’re so dense.
@A: All I can say is: if your goal was to make Ashley Tisdale more likable..appear more talented, prettier and more desirable than Vanessa..then you failed miserably. Where I was indifferent to Tisdale (just don’t care)..I now find her completely unlikable especially if you are indicative of her fanbase (gold diggers are cool, ******** your BFF’s boyfriend is romantic). In your argument…. that there is actually something going on between Zac and Ashley..you are short on logic and video proof and long on innuendo and fantasy. I believe that if Ashley had a chance or snagging Zac she would dump her current boyfriend in a heartbeat…faster than she could tear out those bleached blond extensions. As far as I’m concerned there was one girl that won Zac’s heart and it wasn’t Ashley. Sorry to be harsh but I think you need to be jolted with reality.
Vanessa’s fans are one delusional clan. they tell the haters to go away but they are the ones who start a argument by responding back to the haters. this @A girl is giving made up info about how zac said that about ashley and arguing about a worthless topic on how ashley is better than van.
if you stop responding to these haters they would have gone by now. but no you guys like arguing so. and its a shame that it seems like you guys are losing the fight.
and when zac and van broke up all her fans were blaming zac for cheating. but now that somebody is showing how desperate van would have been to stay with a guy who didn’t treat her right you guys can’t take it because she is so special (she’s not) and in your mind no guy can ever not treat her like a queen and it hurts to realize that zac might have not cared about her that much at all. so you guys are trying to convince that zac would never look at ashley that way. now this is funny.
@Chelles nothing you say is going to convince me because as biased as I am towards Ashley, you’re just as biased towards Vanessa. I can’t stand V’s fanbase, at least, everyone on here and I have for a very long time. The majority of you lurk on Ashley’s posts and articles across the web, leaving hateful thoughts and comments but then turn on an army of defense if anyone dares to say anything about Vanessa that isn’t “she’s the greatest person in the history of the universe.” I’m not actually short on logic and video proof when it comes to Zac and Ashley, but I don’t keep files backed up on my hard drive just so I can pull up proof when Vanessa fans ask for it. I could search for it and locate it, but you all will continue to believe what it is you want to believe forever, so why should I waste the time.
And AGAIN, haters suck! is the one who brought Ashley up in the first place.
Here’s Zac and Ashley embracing in front of a bed with rose petals: http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/27600000/Zac-Ashley-Dec-10-2011-zac-efron-and-ashley-tisdale-27618856-500-375.jpg
And them kissing: http://ashleytisdale.org/photos/displayimage.php?album=1671&pid=50942#top_display_media
Photographic evidence doesn’t lie because it can’t be misinterpreted the way words can. Zac and Ashley have a mutual attraction to each other and feelings for one another and I think it’s obvious.
@J: If he was cheating with her bf then he is more of an ass than I thought. Not saying he wouldn’t cheat, just saying I hope he and Ashley have better morals than to grin in her face a cheat behind her back. That would be like a slap in the face from both of them. If you think it’s ok for you boyfriend and best friend to sleep together, then your as sick as A.
@A those were taken long after the break up. She is free to slob all over him. Still it is tacky of her to post a photo of them in front of a bed. She is trying to imply something. THEY WERE BOTH SINGLE AT THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR. if he wanted her, he could have had her. End of story.
@tina: @J has clearly bought into @A little made up fantasy. Sad? yes, funny? Incredibly!
@tina I know they were both single at the time of the bed picture. The beach picture was taken when she was still with Scott. I was just saying they obviously do have a thing for each other, and judging from previous photos and interviews it probably didn’t start only after the Zanessa break up. I don’t know. I’m just saying.
@morethanwords actually, from how I read it, J wasn’t agreeing with me, although I agree with everything he/she said.
What I don’t understand is, you all hate Zac because he and Vanessa broke up, and you obviously blame him for it, even though it’s never been verified why they really broke up. Yet, if anyone tries to imply that he could have possibly cheated, or not been as head over heels in love with V as you think, you deem that impossible and say Vanessa is everything a guy could ever want in a girlfriend so why would he go anywhere else. Obviously the relationship wasn’t perfect or it wouldn’t have ended, and I have a difficult time understanding the logic of Zac worships Vanessa, then Zac and Vanessa break up and he turns into the devil. Nothing’s ever that cut and dry in real life.
@A: You have a serious problem with your fanfic imagination. You are a perfect example of someone reading far too much into everything. The comments he’s made about Ashley were always to avoid talking about Vanessa, beCause he valued privacy in their relationship. That’s all it was. You also need to realize she is not perfect, nor is Vanessa. In that photo of them above, you do realize she behaved that way in front of her BF. I call that a SL*T. No other words for her. Great. You find her beautiful and all-American? HA. I do not. At all. Nothing attractive about her. Not eyes, not her pointy altered nose, not her body with no shape, not her stick legs, not her personality, not her smile, not her style, nothing. Sorry. You just need to understand others don’t see her the way you do. Nor do they fantasize in your fanfic figment of your imagination.
You should realize by now, they would have gotten together if there was something. They have a close friendship and that is all.
I don’t hate Zac. I just don’t care one way or the other about him. When they first broke up, he went into hiding and she had to answer all the questions about the break up which wasn’t fair. Still she did it without dragging him down. ONLY ASHLEY MADE COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT WHAT WENT ON IN THE BREAKUP. Of course, she made it about her, saying things like “They don’t talk to each other but they talk to me” If what you’re saying about him and Ashely is true them maybe I’ll start disliking both of them. What you’re saying makes them not only a bad friend/boyfriend but bad people. People without a moral compass.
Who would waste time on Ashley’s post? Not me. Lurk? lol as if.
btw that pic taken in front of the bed with rose petals was taken at a club in Hollywood.
And like someone else said before, they were both single at the time. If they had these strong undeniable feelings for each other as you claim, something would have happened and everyone would know since she doesn’t make it a secret who she’s with.
You know what @A you should come here often and piss this clan off more. you are very smart. and they can’t take it. although van is pretty than ashley i believe ashley is way more mature and smart than van.
@J: Pissed? Hardly…lol. @A is illogical…but hey that’s fine. If she wants to believe the stuff that she’s insinuating more power to her. She’s never going to persuade me nor me her.
@J: smart mouth yes. Intellectualy? That’s a given considering many people here have degrees and are just as intelligent, only difference is your friend @A likes to think she is the only intelligent person on the threads, where infact she is just a lump of Tisdale poo, and you are a brown noser who lives in fanfic land.
@A: I didn’t pay much attention to Zac, but you have it on good faith (your wild imagination) that he was cheating with Ashley and how romantic that would have been solidifies his reputation as a cheating wa*nker.
@J Hahah, thank you. I think Ashley’s prettier than Vanessa, which is of course subjective, but I think it’s without a doubt that she’s smarter. Ashley’s always struck me as clever and witty and I’m not sure I’ve ever heard Vanessa say anything that could even remotely stimulate the brain. I’m just saying, anyone who would agree to sing the song “Sneakernight” can’t be all that intelligent. This is the first time I’ve ever pestered on a Vanessa thread, but it’s been so entertaining I’ve had no reason not to stick around.
@morethanwords I would most definitely not say it’s a given that anyone commenting on a gossip site is an intellectual with a degree. I myself don’t have a degree as I’m still in college, and I wouldn’t consider half of you smart. Come up with a better insult than calling me “a lump of Tisdale poo” if you want me to regard you as intelligent. I’m guessing our IQs are around 30 points apart from one another and if you think that makes me arrogant then fine. I think it makes me honest.
@Maria Zac only said nice things about Ashley to mask his feelings for Vanessa? What about everything he said about her after he and Vanessa were a public item and everything he said about her after he and Vanessa were long broken up? He doesn’t need her anymore to cover feelings for another girl but he still spends plenty of time together. Yes, I think Ashley is beautiful. I think Vanessa is beautiful too although it’s been my personal opinion that as of late her clothes and hair could use a little work. I happen to think Ashley is prettier. That’s my personal taste. However I think if you’re going to say something like Ashley isn’t attractive at all then you for sure better have f*ucking movie star good looks or you just don’t have any room to talk.
@tina You may not lurk but maria, boji, haterssuck!, and the rest of your clan definitely do. And I’ve always followed Ashley and I’ve never heard her say a word about the Zanessa break up so you must have really been reading up on her if you truly have. Y’all are all very dramatic. It’s not as if I know Ashley or Zac personally. I’m only speculating and yet while you deny everything I’ve said so far vehemently, you’re simultaneously reacting as if everything I’ve said is the truth.
@A So basically you calling everyone unintelligent or too old is acceptable, and we should just keep quiet and leave you to your fanatical rant? Your pea sized brain hasn’t quite registered the fact that we aren’t here to impress you in any way because quite frankly an 18 yr old piece of tired out t*urd like yourself is irrelevant in the world. You consider yourself to be overly smart, but your fanatical ranting regarding TTT & Efron screams otherwise.
@A I only remember her saying that because at the time I remember thinking why would a FRIEND say anything about their personal business. So now that you know what everyone would think (that Ashley’s a backstabbing, lying, SL UT) it’s suddenly speculation? Long way from your first comments.
@morethanwords LOL you can insult me all you want. You already have and I’m generally unaffected by it. Just don’t try to call me an “airhead” if you yourself speak like you’re twelve, and don’t try to belittle me because I’m too young, when the typical Vanessa Hudgens fan, so I thought, is a teenage girl. What’s the difference between being into Tisdale or Hudgens? Either way you’re still fanatical and to criticize me for that is the height of hypocrisy. At least I’m a fan of somebody who’s capable of intelligent conversation.
@tina I’ve maintained the entire time that this is my own interpretation of Zac and Ashley’s relationship. I believe that there definitely is something more between them but all I’m saying is if you absolutely don’t, then why should anything I’ve said affect you or change your opinion about anybody? And Ashley was probably sought out by the press to make comments on the Zanessa split, what with her close friendship with the both of them. So if she said anything I’m sure she was prompted and didn’t overstep her boundaries.
@xo and by the way Ashley actually has kept her relationships under wraps in the past. She kept Jared a secret for a long time and she denied her relationship with Scott for months before the two were caught making out in his car.
@A: Deny all you want my comments are just that. You are an airhead who was affected by what I had to say. Scroll up, weed through your insipid rubbish and you’ll see that you were. You’re in denial because we don’t harbor the same train of thought regarding trailer trash Tisdale. As for being fanatical well, we, the fans of Vanessa, are not the ones making up school girl scenarios of cheating being romantic. If Ashley’s form of effective communication is to talk about other peoples business, you can keep the trash that she encompasses.
The fact that ALL of their friends were asked the the ONLY one who felt the need to answer was Ashley shows her character. Since HSM the first real non disney work she has is in a sequel that NONE of the main stars care to make. Scary movie ceased to be funny when the Wayans dropped it. Believe what you want but the only one talkinig about Ashley is Ashley and her fans. Oh and Joan Rivers. What was that joke about her career again?
@morethanwords Hahahah whatever. “Trailer trash Tisdale” has made millions more than you ever will and I’m sure she’ll never have to set foot in a trailer park. You, the fans of Vanessa, ARE taking my so called “made up school girl scenarios” to heart though, obviously. If you don’t believe them then you really shouldn’t hate Ashley. But you do and I’m guessing that’s because you really think there is some truth in what I’ve implied.
@tina Ashley has millions and millions of fans so if they’re the ONLY ones talking about her, that’s still pretty f*ucking good. That’s more than twice the people talking about Vanessa. And no, Scary Movie isn’t the first project she’s done since hsm by any means, she’s done around the same number of projects as Vanessa thus far. Personally, I liked all of the Scary Movies so far and I would be looking forward to the next one regardless if Ashley is in it. There are two things you don’t seem to understand about the film industry. 1. The primary purpose of movies should be entertainment. If the films not entertaining, it didn’t succeed in its purpose. 2. Comedy acting takes A LOT more talent than dramatic acting. Ashley’s been praised by many a critic for her comedic chops. So don’t go thinking Vanessa’s more talented than Ashley because of that deep performance she gave in Beastly. (That’s sarcasm.)
@A: Lmao back up, when did this become about me?? Lmfao honey I never claimed to have millions. You should know that trailer trash Tisdale does not need to have physically resided in one, but, if you didn’t, then clearly you’re not nearly as intelligent as you continuously claim to be. Honey we’re not taking any fantasy you have in that head of yours literally; however you seem to be heavily vested in your whimsical assumptions. Goodluck with that, airhead.
When morethanwords says Trailer Trash, she’s referring her personality not how much money she has.
Vanessa fans why don’t you stop responding to this @A person? Let them believe what they want and move on. This post has gotten ridiculous.
@morethanwords In order for someone to be “trailer trash” the requirement is that they have to live or have previously lived in a trailer. I believe the (incorrectly deemed) insult you’re looking for is simply “white trash.” Unless you just really liked the alliteration of “trailer trash Tisdale.” And you clearly are buying into my “fantasy.” Enough to continually argue back and become offended enough to throw insult after insult at me and my idol.
@tina LOL Trailer trash is a personality type? I can’t think of a damn thing Ashley does that would fit that stereotype mold. You’re just deluded.
@A: ANYONE can be funny, or funny looking. TTT just happens to be the latter.
@morethanwords that shows how very little you know. You have no place to judge talent when you know nothing of the art or technique of acting. Comedic acting is much more challenging, I assure you. Tisdale is a gorgeous girl, but I’m guessing your insistence that she isn’t stems from your own insecurities. I’m guessing you’re one of those people that looks like a bridge troll but spends their days on the internet judging others appearances? That’s okay, I’m pretty sure Ashley realizes that she’s beautiful and wouldn’t be affected by the disillusioned opinions of a handful of losers.
Lmfao!!!!!
@morethanwords it seems you now lack the ability to even respond with real words. I’m going to count this as a win.
@A: Everything you have said thus far is……..lmfao!!!!!!!
Hahaha!!!!!!! What a riot!!
@a and i agree with you on the fact that i also think zac dated van because she was hot and fun to hang out with. but i dont think he thought about a future with her. and about what he said about her on interviews after the break up, you can’t actually believe what they say on interviews cause they say what the fans wants to hear not what they actually feel. and i don’t think he was that much in love with van at all as much as zanessa crazies want to think. it was puppy love.
@J I agree. He liked her for her looks and they may have had fun together but I don’t think they had an extremely deep relationship. When Vanessa ever talked about it she always said she knew she wouldn’t marry Zac and things of that nature.
@A: Lmao the amount of twitter followers you have doesn’t equal the number of people talking about you. You do realize that not everybody that follows a celebrity is a fan of theirs right?
V has the right people talking about her: critics that love her in Spring Breakers, praise for her fashion choices during the festivals, film bloggers that can’t stop talking about Spring Breakers and call it the next classic. I don’t care how biased you are, Vanessa is being talked about more than Ashley at the moment, plain and simple.
The last time I saw a pic of Tisdale in a grown up magazine was some actress on the set of the scary movie and Ashley was given a tiny photo in the corner. She’s supposed to be the star of it, right? So why wasn’t she the main pic?
@J maybe you should go read @A’s TroyPay fanfiction and the two of you can agree over there rather than acting like b!itches on a Vanessa feed where people are obviously going to disagree with you? It’s most likely that a hardcore fan of Vanessa’s is not going to ever like the idea of Zac and Ashley together.
@xo I’ve never even heard about that movie, or at least I hadn’t until I got here. I’m pretty sure the reason you’re hearing so much about Vanessa and nothing about Ashley is because Vanessa is the one you follow. I haven’t heard a single thing about Vanessa, save this article here recently, but that doesn’t mean people aren’t talking about her, I’m just not seeing or hearing about it because I’m not looking for it. Ashley has more fans, plain and simple. You’re the one who likes proof and facts and I’ve given that to you to back it up. Yes, Ashley is the star of the movie. I don’t know what magazine you saw. I don’t really read magazines often by I do know that this week she was interviewed for Ok magazine.
Wait @vansflawless are you a Vanessa fan or just an Ashley fan pretend to be a Vanessa fan to fuel the drama?
The uavoidable humming of crickets at TTT threads……
WTF?? You’re all the same one psychopath under many names, aren’t you? I’m done here.
@a zac made it obvious in public that he don’t love vanessa that much. she would always try to leech on to him whenever a camera is around but he always pulled her away. i wonder if you have noticed that? and if he really loved vanessa he would never act that way. he wouldn’t even hold her hand right. and he always gave me that vibe that i felt he was telling the fans to not to keep our hopes up on them. and whatever her fans say she will always be known as efrons ex. and believe me vanessa will be unknown in five years from now. she cant act at all. just good for playing a dumb teen.
@morethanwords
Hmm maybe we should go over there and livin things up a bit. Lol, no not in this life time not even if you pay me.
@Haters Suck!: Haha leave TTT threads to the crickets, her career doesn’t seem to be faring well either.
Ashley prettier and more llikable than Vanessa Bwaaaaaah!? Sorry Vanessa wins hands down!
@Rob: That’s the general consensus here other than the odd fruit cake or two lol
Hahahah Ashley and Vanessa are both signed on to do The Great Migration. Looks like you’ll all be going to see a Tisdale film soon enough.
It’s an animation movie so you really don’t get to see them acting only hear their voices. I bet you A will have something to compare with e.g. Ashley’s character has more airtime, her vocals are better, her cartoon character is prettier or something like that. Know what? A has still a lot of growing up to do, period. The world is her oyster but if only she can get out of her Tisdale bubble and accept that her idol’s not perfect like we have accepted ours and not make believe or conjure up relationships that never existed.
Everything she has written only shows up her immaturity. A high IQ does not make you a mature person or equips you socially or can help you in interpersonal relationships. Maturity comes with exposure and experience,
A, I can only wish you well in your future and for your sake hope for the best. It is alright to be a fan of Ashley but not in the way you described yourself and what you have shown us. Your obsession is just beyond.
I’m not immature. Obviously, I’m a teenager, not a senior citizen, so I’m sure our thinking paths are different. I don’t think loving Tisdale is holding me back from anything. Lol. Please, you’re obsessed with Vanessa. It’s no different.
Been a teenager but I wasn’t a missknowitall like you. Sent overseas to study at age 17 and I’m very grateful for that. Learnt about other cultures , living independentlyand social interaction besides my academic education. I suggest you do the same if you have the opportunity, it opens up your eyes. Vanessa is doing exactly that . The difference here is yes, I’m a fan of Vanessa but I don’t live and breathe her. She is only a small part of my daily life, I don’t write fanfics about her. I have other responsibilities in my life and only seek out info on her during my downtime like the rest of her fans here. Right now, I’m away from home but when I’m back I workout to keep fit much like Vanessa but not as rigorous. I suggest you do the same.
@Boji I think you’re a ridiculous person. Enjoy your lame-O life. My life is more fabulous than yours just like my idol is more fabulous than yours. xoxo.
@A: Where do you come up with these lies? You think them up and then think they must be true? Honey, you really need to back off. I NEVER heard Vanessa say she always knew she would never marry Zac. EVER. She has NEVER spoken of the break-up, except to say they are friends, which is the politically correct thing to say to an interviewer. Your lies are disturbing. It’s one thing to obsess over a very average girl, but to fabricate comments, and speak about things you know nothing about, is ludicrous. How is comedic acting more difficult?? And why don’t actresses in comedies get Oscars? Cause it’s NOT more difficult, so stop exaggerating. Yes, I will give Ashley the edge in comedic roles, cause it’s all she can do.
I also don’t appreciate being accused of “trolling”on her posts, or posting in other places on the internet. I do NO such thing. The ONLY time I have EVER posted on her, is when she is blatantly inappropriate and disrespectful. Romping and groping Douchebag at her BD party last year, in front of her boyfriend with her Best friends’ recent ex, was inexcusable. How do you even defend that? I call a spade a spade. And that’s the only times I will ever post on her. Like I said, I do NOT find her attractive in any way, and have absolutely NO interest in her. NONE. I would not waste my time posting on her threads, nor do I know of other places where she is talked about. My name is common around the world, and I promise you, I have NEVER posted anywhere else on her. But I WILL, when I think she deserves it.
@maria you’re ridiculous. Why so angry? Vanessa said “It’s just fun having a boyfriend.” And that she “didn’t want marriage until after 30.” You know NOTHING about acting, seriously. I do, and comedic acting is much more difficult. Just go research that before you fire back and you’ll see. Ashley and Zac are really close best friends and he was single so he was fair game. The birthday party was supposed to just be two friends hanging out but their suppressed feelings like I’ve formerly mentioned got the best of them. Scott put up with it because he obviously loves Ashley a lot and I kinda get the feeling she’s in control in that relationship so she wouldn’t allow him to overreact.
@ Maria, we are just wasting our time with this 18 year old totally obsessed Ashley/zashley fan. Let her be, unless of course we see her on a new Vanessa thread. She is just living her lie. I’ve never seen and heard such absurdity since that one fan who insisted that HSM revolved around Sharpay. Oh well, you do get some nutters.
after 589 comments long argument with @a now suddenly they are wasting their time with a 18 yr old. LOL
What a fantasy!!!! Lmfao
Bloody hell this is more entertaining than a movie!
A fruitcake and it’s side kick hahaha
Keep going, the crickets at TTT threads continue to get louder!!
@J, your compatriot here provided us with some entertainment relief. We enjoyed it while it lasted but it is wearing thin. Now on to the next Vanessa thread and you get back to your Ashley thread.
Yea Zac was single but Ashley certainly was’nt and she romped around with efron like he was her bf while her real boyfriend took a back seat, maybe he thought he could handle it becuase funnily enough she and Scott broke up soon after that birthday show of her’s and efron and only got back together recently so maybe he has put his foot down with her a bit and to be honest who could blame him, having a male friend you have known for year’s is one thing but what both she and efron did was just plain wrong and taking friendship to far when at least one of them had a partner at the time.
Zac willingly participated in the show and showed no concern for Scott’s feelings what so ever.
I love how we are the ridiculous ones, with lame lives. LMAO. If you only knew. Honey, at least I don’t go trolling in the wrong places, talking trash, fabricating lies, worshipping an average looking, bleached blonde of which there are far more attractive ones in Hollywood, and then spending the rest of my time writing fanfic about same mediocre person. Seriously. And just to set the record straight, Vanessa wants to marry BY thirty, and the having a BF is fun comment, was probably made when she was 16. LOL. I don’t think that applies when you are 23 , but of course, you wouldn’t know what it’s like to be that old.
Please, let’s get back to topic! Vanessa and her big heart, and this great honor she received!!
What’s interesting is that in the articles about the animated movie “The Great Migration” Vanessa’s name always comers up first, hmm, I guess even the Hollywood reporter knows who the bigger and more popular star is (or are you going to go and yell at them too?). Heck, in every article where the two women are mentioned in Vanessa is always mentioned first if it’s ‘Vanessa Hudgens and Ashley Tisdale’ or ‘Vanessa Hudgens out shopping with Ashley Tisdale”, the press and the web has nothing to gain from this so it’s obvious that they write the first one of the two that comes to mind and it is and always will be Vanessa and you can say it is because of the you-know-what however I think that while many reacted to it, it is the way she handled it and the way she have grown since that the press and the web have taken note of and many, many people, both those who know her and those who have heard of/read about her have done nothing but praise her personality (her talent, her strength, her kindness, her sense of humor, her intelligence and especially her inner beauty) and I’ve never heard anyone who have meet her have a bad thing to say about her (heck, she have even been able to turn haters into fans after they meet her), not to mention the people who have worked with her and who have nothing bad to say about the experience, and for me that says a lot about who she is and that might not be ok or enough for a few select few but like Vanessa herself said:
“If people don’t like me for whatever I do, for being me, then that’s too bad. I don’t want to change to be something that I’m not for other people to like me. “
-That is an incredibly smart and healthy way to live and it’s the only way you will ever be truly happy, but it’s also a lesson you will only truly learn if you have lived and if you have seen the dark side of some people which Vanessa unfortunately have but the way she overcame it is what I’m looking at and I know that is what most of her fans does as well.
@florence2 I think it was most likely two close friends who have long since had repressed feelings for one another and those feelings came out accidentally in front of a lot of cameras. When Ashley realized she tried the best she could to do damage control.
@maria again, I hope you’re d*amn pretty to be insulting Ashley’s looks. I think she’s absolutely beautiful and I don’t care if you do or don’t. And plenty of girls have their hair dyed. That’s a ridiculous thing to fixate on. Vanessa definitely said no marriage BEFORE thirty and no, the comment about it’s just fun having a boyfriend right now was not made when she was 16.
@e I’ve seen Ashley’s name listed first plenty of times and what a petty thing to fixate on anyhow. Ashley’s said plenty of things similar to the Vanessa quote you posted. It’s nothing profound, it’s the type of thing most celebrities generally say. And I already get that you think Vanessa Hudgens is the greatest person in the history of the universe.
So let’s see what Aslhley and Zac fans here have established:
1. Ashley’s a plastic sl ut, with a fake nose and boobs (but that ok because she only wanted to enhance her non existing beauty).
2. Zac wasn’t man enough to end a romance with a little girl but he is sleazy enough to sleep with her supposed best friend.
3. Both are the kind of people you wouldn’t want in your life (liars and cheaters) but since they were in a movie together it’s okay.
As a fan of Vanessa’s I thank God these people are no longer in her life. Nothing would complete this trailer park tale better than the two of them in a relationship. Then they can lie and cheater on each other. Ashley wouldn’t care as long as she can walk a red carpet with him.
@Tina No, that’s what YOU have “established.” I’ve never, ever referred to Ashley as being plastic or a sl*ut. She doesn’t have fake boobs, and she had a deviated septum. Obviously she chose to alter her nose slightly while she was under the knife. It’s nothing drastic. She didn’t get a whole new face and she IS beautiful naturally. And I would not want Zac and Ashley to be together if he were going to lie to her and cheat on her. I think the two have great chemistry but respect should go hand in hand with love. Ashley’s a strong girl, the type who will be treated right by whoever it is that she’s in a relationship with and I have faith that she would end it if that weren’t the case.
@tina Oh, and Ashley still IS in Vanessa’s life. Duh.
@A:
You are just one big contradiction aren’t you, first you say one thing and then when it backfires you claim that you never said it yet if you go back and really read all of your posts even you will find that everything that tina pointed out are things that YOU have said, it’s not something that any Vanessa fan have either stated or claimed, we have only summarized what we’ve read on YOUR posts and maybe that wasn’t what you intended to write but the fact is that it did come across that way and you should look it up before you start throwing even more sh*t around which will only continue to damage the already low opinion most have of her.
@e Actually that’s not true. I’ve done nothing but defend Ashley against any and all “plastic” accusations for one thing. And what your friend Tina is posting is not what I’ve established but what she has inferred from what I’ve been trying to say. I’ve always been a Zashley fan, not a Zanessa, so the idea of Zac and Ashley together would never upset me and I don’t think of it as wrong the way you do. And what I keep trying to point out that is the most ridiculous is that you all say you don’t believe a thing that I’ve written, and yet you’re judging Ashley as if everything I’m speculating on is the full truth. Decide how you really feel on the matter.
@A: Only when she (Ashley) can benefit from it. When Vanessa showed a picture of her with her friends Ashley was no where to be seen. If you don’t want people to read into your speculations, do yourself a favor (1) don’t put them out (2) if you must don’t do it on Vanessa threads.
I’m sure maria mention how empty Tisdale’s thread is, and yet you’re here. Why?
@tina I’m sure Vanessa has plenty of friends outside of Ashley. Just because the two aren’t together constantly doesn’t mean they are not friends. Hahahah, I didn’t need to talk on Tisdale’s thread, because I’ve managed to overtake a Vanessa thread and get you all to talk about Ashley for nearly 600 comments. ;)
Which all count as hits for Vanessa, so we as fans say thank you, for keeping her in the top celebs for JJ.
Take over a thread……obnoxious just like trailer trash Tisdale. Scroll back to comment 1 fool, you’ll find plastic face wasn’t mentioned from the start. It’s a shame though, then you’d have close to 600 posts of degradation, and rightly so. Get over your bad self.
Disfigured implants
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tw5SQBKjXH0/TrjhbCIP-FI/AAAAAAAAgd0/jNUxgnX_0D4/s1600/ashley-tisdale-before-after-breast-implants-2.jpg
A bit shiny innit?!!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Oed5pXKa36o/TtOQXLrXm-I/AAAAAAAAFLg/GYvjDcyF-RE/s1600/ashley_tisdale_hot_big_boobs.jpg
@MoreThanWords: I love how some keep denying those are implants, when it is so obvious. If you look back to early day photos of her, she did NOT have those boobs, and it is NOT just push-up bras. She is wanting to look like bombshell and get sexy roles, but the problem is, you’d have to put a bag over her head. She’s just not naturally pretty. She’s got typical blonde bimbo looks. SO not appealing.
I much prefer girls make the best of what they were given, and work it. That’s what makes a woman beautiful, cause they come in all colors, shapes, and sizes. Not one who keeps altering herself to look like someone else. Like Heidi Pratt.
@maria: Agreed those roundish mole hills are a dead give away, besides, shouldn’t there be something there to push up to begin with if she was to wear push up bras? Vanessa has a small set, but she works with what she has.
@MoreThanWords: She does. Bigger boobs aren’t gonna help you act better!! Don’t think Ashley got the memo! My least favorite actresses are those with fake boobs. I love the natural girls, who don’t succumb to ugly fake ones, like Emma Stone, Reese Witherspoon, Eva
Longoria, Anne Hathaway, etc. No reason to be ashamed if you weren’t born with them. Doesn’t make them any less beautiful.
@tina hahahah whatever. I’ll give it to you that Vanessa definitely has a monopoly on this site, no doubt about it. But it’s Ashley we’ve been discussing. ;)
@morethanwords are you f*ucking retarded? That second picture is NOT Ashley. And the first picture are real breasts. My mom has implants, I know what they look like. Ashley doesn’t have them. And trailer trash Tisdale? Okay Ashley’s family is actually a lot classier than Vanessa’s. Ashley’s mother is actually a pretty woman for an older lady. Have you seen Vanessa’s mom? She’s ugly and really fat. The only reason Van is so pretty is because she’s mixed which inexplicably seems to always result in beautiful babies.
@maria Ashley is BEAUTIFUL. And you’re insane if you don’t think so. I’m not going to lie and say I don’t think Vanessa is pretty even if I think Ashley is more beautiful. I think you’re probably just saying that because you don’t like her but whatever. And don’t you f*ucking dare ever compare my idol to Heidi whats her face. Ashley is NOT a bimbo and she does NOT look like one. Her looks have character and are unique. And uhm, Resse Witherspoon and Eva Longoria both have tits. What do you consider flat chested? You probably have unrealistic standards for breast sizes because you’re fat. Like Vanessa’s mom. And for the record, even though Ashley doesn’t have them, I think it’s absolutely ridiculous to say you wouldn’t like somebody because they have fake breasts. And you try to say I’m shallow? I don’t think so. At least I’m not a judgmental b*itch.
@A: Lmfao TTT IMPLANTS!!
@A: You ARE judgemental, don’t make me call you an airhead again. You call V mum fat and ugly……contradiction much? Besides, won’t be long now before TTT resembles Heidi, both as plastic as each others breasts. Face it, Vanessa doesn’t need fake breasts or a nose job (deviated septum excuse way past its expiry date) to still draw interest.
@morethanwords no Heidi is ugly and looks completely standardized. Tisdale is not. And Heidi has hideously obvious fake breasts. Ashley doesn’t. Because hers are NATURAL. And even if it turns out they’re not, they’re at least very tasteful. Vanessa got her major fame boost off of naked photos okay? You guys can’t say anything about drawing interest the wrong way.
@A: Unless your breasts have a huge gap between them, you know this isn’t natural, then it is far from being a tasteful enhancement. Vanessa has natural breasts, albeit small, they are natural. TTT already resembles Heidi, you poor misguided fool.
@morethanwords NO SHE DOESN’T. You stupid bi*tch. I think Ashley is the most beautiful girl in the world. Why can’t you just accept we have a difference in opinions? Ashley’s breasts are normal. This is a stupid argument. Because no matter what you’re going to maintain what you already think. So this should just be over. Ashley is gorgeous. You’re delusional. I’m done.
@A: The day will come when TTT WILL be mistaken for Heidi, but don’t feel down @A, it might just the thing to revive her near dormant career.
Shut the f*uck up. You’re wrong and I hate you. This debate is not an intelligent one. How could it be when you’re a part of it? So I’m done here finally. I love Ashley and you could never lead me away from her.
@MoreThanWords, Wowzah!!!!! If those aren’t plastic, I’ll eat my shoes. Yep, she’s had her boobies done alright. The proof is in the pictures. That 2nd pic, they’re almost popping out, tacky.
@Boji THAT SECOND PICTURE ISN’T HER!!!!! Only a moron couldn’t tell the difference. Not even close to being a look a like to her either. Are you so advanced in your old age that your vision is going to?
@BOJI: yup they are as big as her schnozz, I mean nose. That’s difinitely TTT, give her couple more years then she’ll be called Heidi lmao. But Ofcourse that fool @A can deny it all she wants, but those lopsided breasts belong to Miss Trash.
Tisdale the most beautiful girl in the world??????? Oh, my. Now that is a very telling comment. Cause she isn’t anywhere close to that, and never will be. Just saying that tells us what a fruit loop you are. Vanessa is NATURALLY beautiful, with absolutely lovely features…..gorgeous eyes, a perfect nose, lovely lips, and stunning skin!! And yes, she IS gorgeous. But would I say she is the most beautiful woman in the world? No. She is gorgeous, but there are millions of beautiful women in the world. Ashley just doesn’t have it, sorry. Her features are average. Her eyes are nothing special, her nose is terrible now….it’s long and too defined in the nostrils. Her lips are thin and her smile is weird. Nothing special about her skin or anything else. So yes, she is not attractive to me.
And nope, I am not fat, in any way, and my husband thinks I’m quite hot. Actually, my patients think I’m a dead ringer for Susan Sarandon. So, I don’t consider myself fat and ugly. Nor would I attack anyone’s mother. Gina is a lovely Filipino woman. YOU, Miss A, are a racist, and thats why you have always been a Zashley fan. You couldn’t see him with anyone other than the blonde bimbo and were pissed he chose Vanessa. Well, if you know ANYthing about the ex, he had a poster of Tyra Banks in his room, likes exotic looks, dark skin, and women like Catherine Zeta Jones, Eva Longoria, and Eva Mendes. Hate to break it to ya, but Tis is just not his type.
A – dont bother trying to convince these 4 or 5 professional hudgens spammers of a damn thing. They are here specifically on justjared because no registration is needed, and you can create tons of fake support posting under whatever fake names u want. Bing, next thing u know its 600 comments, and in their eyes, their precious hudgens is the most popular actress in the world. The difference between fans of other celebs and fans of vanessa is the others are self assured and confident enough to know they dont have to generate fake, cheap support for their favorite celeb, whereas hudgens fans think her entire freaking career depends on getting lots and lots of comments on this stupid insignificant site. Fans of other celebs have lives. Fans of hudgens apparently do not.
Mr.Equaliser at work again, I see.
Mr.Equaliser hard at work again, I see
If any of you are going to pretend that the second picture is actually Ashley Tisdale then that just proves that you’re definitely as stupid as I already think you are. It’s not even a close resemblance.
Hey look guys Vanessa got a boob job too. http://www.celebrityhappening.com/photos/celebrity-member/maryp25-87-L.jpg Now I’m just going to insist that’s her no matter what you say because I can. And I’ll act just as arrogant as @morethanwords does when she tries to tell me that’s not Vanessa.
@maria lmfao. Me being a Zashley fan is not because I’m a “racist.” I’m not and I’ve been a Zashley fan since I was 11 and the film first came out. I thought originally that Ashley and Zac were already dating and weren’t trying to hide it because they’ve always been very openly affectionate towards each other. I think they have great chemistry and would make adorable babies. That’s why I’m a Zashley fan. And as for Ashley not being Zac’s “type,” that’s ridiculous and you try to say that I’m immature. You should have learned in your many years what I’ve learned in the short amount of time I’ve had in the world that while you might think a certain look is your type, the person you end up falling for often isn’t what you envisioned at all. Especially if you’re NOT shallow and fall in love with a person’s heart, right? And Ashley is a beautiful girl, I think it’s ridiculous for you to say she’s not but whatever. She’s the most beautiful girl in the world to ME, which is obviously the unstated implication when you make a comment like that. Part of the reason that I think she is SO beautiful like I do is because I love her for her and think she’s an amazing person and I’m sure that affects what I see on the outside. But I’ve always thought she was a gorgeous girl from when I first saw her and if you don’t then I think you need to get your vision tested. And stop calling her a blonde bimbo. Do you not remember when she was a brunette for like three years. Personally I do prefer her with darker hair because I think it makes her look like a more natural beauty, but playing around with hair color when you’re young is FUN and there’s nothing wrong with it. She looks beautiful as a brunette or a blonde and she would probably even be able to make ginger look hot as well.
And Gina is just not attractive in any way shape or form. They are a precious family: http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Lisa+Tisdale/Ashley+Tisdale+Spends+Afternoon+Family/rKhqro_RH6u
@intric8 I couldn’t agree more.
You know, nutcases think alike. Funny, intric8, didn’t think you’d stoop that low. But you are no better than, Efron lusting BO or miss Delusional Ashley Fan here. Same basket cases, you lot.
@Boji and you’re a lot of psychos and giant hypocrites, all of you. You said that I wasn’t supplying accurate information even though every quote I referenced I truly read somewhere in an interview, and yet when one of you supplies a photo that’s CLEARLY not Tisdale, the rest of you are just going to turn a blind eye to it because it helps your case. Then you try to say that Ashley’s not pretty, which is ridiculous, but that Vanessa’s mother is, when she very obviously is not. That just shows your incredible bias.
@maria oh, and Zac Efron also said he had a crush on Michelle Pfieffer and Lori Loughlin who are both blonde women. Oh, and that’s right, he said he had a crush on Ashley Tisdale too.
HHahahahahahhH……taking a breather……hahahahahahahahahaha….oh bloody hell hahahahahahahahahaha
@BOJI: Just calling it like it is. You guys are the ones who need mental help. That’s the problem with playing dirty to get what you want, woman. Reveals people for who they are. Maybe not you so much Boji, but the others definitely.
V fans have mental issues, yet the one person who flung the first slander is sane?? Hahahahahahahahahaha
@morethanwords I think you’re all insane if you think this woman is “lovely.” http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/zanessa4eva17/happybirthdaygina.png
But this woman isn’t. http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/profile01/121/55df963e214d4932992cf0a8cd5bbc62/p.jpg
How can you even justify that?
Which woman are you squawking about? Vanessa’s mother who you referred to as fat and ugly (yet we said nothing about TTT mother) or Vanessa? As for cosmetically modified TTT, no, I simply don’t think she is. By your insinuations, you’ve painted Tisdale to be nothing but harlot, who harbors the idea of promiscuity as ‘romantic’ or ‘glamorous’. @intric8 thinks V fans have issues, however we aren’t the ones glorifying a non existent sexual affair between two friends, one of whom was attached at the time. You have to admit, you have sensationalised TTT to be a harlot, all your own doing, and if anyone scrolled through back through this whole mess of a post, they would see where the thread went pear shaped.
@MoreThanWords: Don’t have a clue what you mean by “pear shaped”‘ but will say that this post became a fraud he second you guys showed up. It isn’t at all representative of the general public’s interest or awareness of Van, yet you guys try to trick noobs into thinking such. It’s just the same process repeated over and over, the same repetitive bloviations, same feigned fawning over gym pics smacking of cheap promotion, and same lowball retaliations against anyone with a contrarian opinion. You guys try way to hard to create the illusion that Van’s posts are being clamored to when nothing is further from the truth. Most people are aware of these tricks, i believe, but they don’t waste the time it takes to point it out as i do.
@intric8: still think I’m Haters Suck! Or BOJI huh?! Everything you have just said is mirrored in other thread, only difference is you appear to have an immense dislike for Vanessa as well. Are you wearing rose tinted glasses? This so called feigned fawning are fans who generally like Vanessa, and like to see her going about her day. If you have discrepancies with ‘cheap promotion’ I suggest you approach JJ about what you do clearly find offensive on HIS site. If you are questioning the reasoning behind this particular post, perhaps you should take that up with your confidant @A, who has approached a new low by including Vanessa’s mother into her vulgar comments. Forgive me but, when did this thread become about mothers and their appearance?
@intric8: nice verbally sparring with you but I have a dance class soon, and I believe they won’t find it amusing if I’m late (see, I have a life!). @A quit stirring RE: V’s mother, you shouldn’t have gone there, we never did, nor will we ever. But if you insist, others may not ignore it as kindly as I have. Stay within topic of discussion.
@A: Honestly, how tacky and desperate to you have to be to go after someone’s mother? Stay classy.
@MoreThanWords: “Offensive” doesn’t describe it, irking does. And i lament the irony that you would consider A’s comment as vulgar and a ” new low” when a much lower low was reached long, long ago by the likes of both you and hatersuck, among others, using attacks that make hers look tame by comparison. Just one negative opinion in a thread about van and the insults start flying by you guys, and then you attribute the ensuing mess to a person not cooperating with your love fest here. Maybe YOU should contact Jared so he can help you have a more reasonable expectation of what actually goes on in a pap site.
@MoreThanWords: This is not the way the morethanwords ive read communicates. Are you bipolar or a split personality? Is someone else subbing for you? Some mental instability conidtion?
@Chelles: Thank you.
Think what you like, reality is we are her fans, and if people like you and @A think its fun to hurl nasty comments, well we have every right to retaliate. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if you were infact @A. After all you seem to think a handful of us generate fake pseudonyms in order to elevate the number of posts on a V thread. FYI the only love fest happens to be @A’s proclamation of a sexual affair. Any protests we had about that was drowned out by more insipid dribble about the so called affair blah blah blah. As for gossip site commenting protocols, it appears as though anything goes, so there is little to no expectation. YOU however dislike any post that may have a slight reference to Vanessa. As my dance students would say, ‘what ev Trev!’.
@intric8: according to you I am several different people.
@chelles EXACTLY
@Chelles: you are as delusional as morethanwords. He wants to make a retarded distnction about what’s “vulgar” and what is not by excluding any physical observation of van’s mom, yet remains as one of the most degenerate and insulting trolls in all the history of the internet. Go back and read earlier pages if you want.
Damn y’all still going at it. Whatever
@intric8
A person like you who continues to use the word re_tarted is going to lecture others on what’s vulgar and what’s not and what’s classy and what’s not. What a crock. All I got to say is if you’re going to insult someone be prepared to be insulted back. If you can’t take what you dish out shut the hell up.
@intric8: lmao I don’t have a male appendage, RE: later part of your comment, thanks!! That’s the nicest thing a strange person on the web (emphasis on strange) has ever said about me! My creative writing lecturer would be pleased about that so thanks! Haha
FYI why would any of us take note of Gina? This isn’t a Gina thread, and I highly doubt V fans would take a dig at Tisdales mum, because in all honesty what good does belittling their do besides make you look like tool.
@Haters Suck!: yup because NOW @A and @intric8 thinks its fine to call Gina fat and ugly, given that we’ve never attacked Tisdales mother not will be ever. Seems to me that both are as delusional as each other.
@MoreThanWords: But you are a tool, and apparently you don’t even realize it. Btw, that creative writing class seems to be paying off, though your use of ” insipid dribble” would describe a lousy basketball player, as opposed to “insipid drivel”, which better describes your attempts at justifying retaliation for anything remotely negative mentioned about van, and in the process, reveals further that you somehow have a very personal stake in defending her integrity.
@intric8: LMFAO!!!!!! Are you indirectly confessing to having name called Gina? Because you do realise it wasn’t aimed at anyone in particular and I certainly did not single you out, which makes you one big mess of a tool. At this point I am going to assume that you are intelligent enough to recognise a metaphor, or a similie to understand my comment, RE:dribble. If not, then you would benefit by educating my professor about creative writing because it would seem that he acquired his Phd from a cereal box. Point is, this is a V thread, not a place to toss about insulting remarks about V’s mother.
Seriously, morethanwords, there’s no need to respond with to my last comment. It’s getting embarrassing for you already. You are off the hook. Now why do you refer to Van’s mom somewhat affectionately as “GIna”? I mean, if you are just a random Hudgens fan with a moderate interest, why not refer to her as “Vanessa’s mom”?
You just expect people to NOT respond crowning you as just and right, and I don’t embarrass as easily as you hope to think. What IS embarrassing is your inability to interpret written discourse. Gina is her name as yours is whatever and mine is …..so, pray tell how on earth you saw any form of affection by my referring to her by her given name? Would you think it appropriate if I labelled your mother grotesquely unsightly? V fans have in the past referred to her as Gina, so it may be redundant if you attempt to single me out as bring the only one to do so.
Rebundant? Wow, that class is REALLY paying off!
Hey, i’m reading your words missy, but sometimes things get a bit vague and stretched. And we are having a civil discourse, are we not? You accused me of admitting that i disparaged Van’s mom, who you guys are apparently on a first name basis with. Given the way you express yourself about her, it was an honest question. If you have sufficient time on your hands and so desire, go backwards all you want and cite any instance where i said anything bad about her. I’d make a massive bet with you that you won’t find a damn instance, but it would be a waste of time because it’s impossible to collect from you, number one, number two, you probably wouldn’t pay up anyways.
Civil yes, first class honours, and I did not accuse you of anything, post #627 is subject to review. It was, to quote you,”an honest question”, misinterpreted on your part rendering this fictional monetary exchange obtuse. Does it really bother you that fans refer to V’s mother as Gina? Come on, it’s a tad bit silly to be petulant over a name.
@morethanwords why is it that the line is drawn at insulting the physical appearance of someones mother. To act so offended and claim that you would never stoop so low as to insult Ashley’s mother after all you’ve already said about tisdale herself is ridiculous. Besides, you do realize that as mothers if “Gina” or Ashley’s mother (Lisa although I’ll refrain from calling her that due to the first name argument) were to read through these insults they would be much much more offended by anything said about their own daughters than they would by anything said about them. I also think its fair to say that the things you all have said about Ashley have been much much worse than the things I might have said about Van. And I’ve tried my best to refrain from exaggerations something none of you seem capable of. Oh, and attempting to use a slew of big words in order to make yourself look more intelligent actually has the opposite affect.
@A: I see the hibernating period is over. I’ve stopped trying to rationalise anything you’ve had to say for quite some time now, because in all honesty your novels are the embodiment irrational thought. To insinuate we are not intelligent is a product of your insecurities as a dysfunctional teen. In response to your thinly veiled argument, Of course I wouldn’t include Tisdales mother into this mess, but it is blatantly clear that your uncouth behaviour draws no limits. Who are you going to nit pick on now? Vanessa’s father? Her grand parents? Clearly you are not dumb, but your attitude is. Here’s hoping you manage to graduate with first class honours as well, if not, then you need not look far to understand why.
@A: more over, if V’s ‘mother’ (that should satiate your argumentative behaviour) were to read this thread, I think she’d be disappointed that her daughter was likened to a, “coccaine addict” to quote you.
Really we can’t call Vanessa’s mother gina even though that’s her name? We have to call her Vanessa’s mother? Should just start calling Vanessa Gina’s daughter? This is getting more absurd by the minute
@Haters Suck!: agreed, but the general consensus, according to two individuals, is that by their virtue addressing her by her given name is only allowed to those who know her on a personal level.
@morethanwords
That’s stupid. But then again look who we’re talking too.
@Haters Suck!: lol
Well, for crying out loud, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. ‘A’ is as plastic as her idol. I think Vanessa’s mom has a beautiful spirit and soul just like her daughter. Yes, she has an ethnic look but it doesn’t mean she’s ugly. Your caveman ancestors were beautiful. Vanessa’s mom is just adorably cute. Her smile is beautiful. Besides there is nothing plastic about her. I’m going on a rant here, no amount of plastic surgery can change a person’s character, confidence perhaps. If you’re ugly on the inside, you’re ugly on the out.
@MoreThanWords, you amaze me with your eloquence. I love it. Keep it up, I could learn a thing or two from you. My English is still lacking.
@ Haters Suck and MoreThanWords, ‘A’ is caught in her own Tisdale Bubble and every time she opens up with her rationale she gives more credence to term ‘ Legally Insane’. An open book if you must. ‘
A’ child, be a fan of Ashley fine, but all you are doing is coming to a thread of Vanessa’s seeking vengeance for things done and said in the past. This is the present, let bygones be just that. What you are doing is digging your own Tisdale grave. I really don’t care if Ashley makes more money, more films or is prettier or has bigger boobs(thanks to plastic surgery) than Vanessa. No amount of argument on your part is going to convince us to be a fan of Ashley. You forget, a good many of us here are much older than you, more mature and less fickle minded than the teeny fans. The more you argue here the more you reveal yourself. Perhaps, you are getting the attention here which you don’t seem to get at other sites, like our Equaliser Poster. I know, we do attract posters here who just resist our magnetism :)
Correction, we attract posters on Vanessa’s threads who just can’t resist our dynamic charm and magnetism. They wanna get in on the action.
@BOJI: You give away too much when you ramble on. Van’s face is split in half from what i notice. Her upper face from her mom, nose from neither thank god, and mercifully, she got her dads lower face and jaw which scores the most points afa im concerned. For a “teeny fan”‘ i think A is fantastic at expressing herself. HatersSuck doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and morethanwords logic seems like its stretched as far as his sanity.
@BOJI: lol BOJI your English is perfectly fine, why would think otherwise? though I’d say the next post will claim that we are anything but normal people. My professor actually graced me with this moniker after a paper I wrote, yup I am going to be published. Goes to show we are ALL intellectual beings.
And please dont flatter yourself too much, nor resort to fantasy
@morethanwords That “hibernation period” you’re referring to was the 8 hour shift I worked today. I left my last comment on my phone during my break. I’m not dumb but my attitude is? So favoring Ashley over Vanessa is what makes me dumb? Okay, whatever.
@Boji You’re going to say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that Vanessa’s mom is beautiful because of who she is on the inside. (Although I’m not sure how you know that. I’m obviously a huge fan of Ashley and I know little of her mother’s personality other than she loves and supports her daughter.) And yet you all keep insisting that Ashley is “ugly.” How can you be so blatantly hypocritical and be so blind to it? I think Ashley is a wonderful person and that makes her beautiful, and she’s also gorgeous on the outside and if you don’t think so then why don’t you just practice what you preach and apply your “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” philosophy here? And I am NOT plastic. Neither is Ashley, because last I checked one minor cosmetic enhancement is not near enough work done to deem them shiny plastic. But I definitely am not, as I’m only 18, and haven’t even been so for very long and so for one I haven’t come of the age (or the income, college student here) to get any plastic surgeries done. And other than breast lifts and botox when I get old the only plastic surgery I even want is MAYBE a slight alteration of my nose. Which is not a huge deal at all even though you all try to make it out like it’s the crime of the century. And it’s also dumb to not like an actress because she’s had a nose job when so many of them have. My other favorite actress is Jennifer Aniston. She’s had a nose job, by the same doctor who did Ashley’s actually, and nobody in America seemed to care. You can still be naturally beautiful and still do things to further enhance that beauty. You don’t complain when Vanessa wears makeup or hair extensions do you? Same principle.
And there she ( he) blows…… As the saying goes.
Intric8, as i recall you did say you had better things to do ie posting on other celebrity threads more noteworthy. Pray what are you doing here? And this is not even about you.
@A: if you read it with a clear mind you would see that I said you are NOT dumb, but your attitude is. Again, given the content of what we are discussing, what I am clearly referring to is your one sided opinion of the majority being unintelligent. You can admire Tisdale as much as you please, but it was you who cast the first insult thereby making a mockery of yourself. You could do with a dash of maturity and a side of humble.
@A are you referring to my publication of a paper being a mere fantasy? If so, then the board will need to answer to you. What right would I or anyone have to be published in a Journal right? Might appease you if I used a stone slab and chisel to communicate, or better yet smoke signals?
@BOJI: Wrong miss manila, the last 12 hours have not been about YOU, my dear. Your pal morethanwords has been busy trying to tap his writing class skills. He’s been threshing semantics in a lame attempt to make all forms of bashing perfectly okay for team hudgens but totally inappropriate for all others. It’s a cockamamie undertaking, mind you. Poor A, you guys have twisted and misrepresented what she’s been saying throughout this post from early on, no wonder she has hung around all this time. She feels obligated to defend herself.
@MoreThanWords: I was finishing my comment with Boji, oh paranoid one.
@intric8 Exactly. Thank YOU.
@BOJI: Best pay no mind to these two who are the same person, easily identifiable by the generic stylistics of ‘Those who are above the work ants’, meaning us, the uneducated Homo sapiens. Heaven forbid that we might actually be anything other than 2 $hits of brick lol
You can see that intric8 gets a rise from the verbal sparring, she’s left the other Vanessa thread because basically no one was biting. As for @A, well if she can’t recognise much less accept a compliment then no form of reasoning is going to penetrate their lead lined skulls.
At least I can say I have a soon to be published article, whereas the other two will have their two cents worth on a gossip site, fleshing out essay length comments of vile dribble.
No we’re NOT the same person. WTF are you saying “You’re not dumb” is a compliment?? LOL.
@A: smoke signals, morse code?
What??
Okay morethanwords, now i am calling you a total mor0n because you are getting dirty. I don’t know a single solitary thing about Tisdale, and if i did, by golly it would have popped up somewhere, however remotely, on this site. I am here because this is the active thread, and i saw how you guys are unfairly ganging up on A. My involvement started as a simple comment by me giving her advice not to waste any time convincing you guys of a damn thing. An then you trudge on and consistently rope positions, i haven’t even proclaimed, onto me, or upon A? I don’t buy your hogwosh, so it’s because i’m not intelligent enough to understand what you are saying? Dude, you are better than that, no? BTW, how many lame attempts are you going to make at mentioning your soon to be published article? Your academic and extracurricular endeavors don’t slay me, i’m sorry.
@intric8: Unfairly ganging up on A?? Are you being serious?? She came here, to a VANESSA post, talked trash about her, her mother, for crissakes, blubbered on about her idol having repressed feelings for Vanessa’s ex and also alluding to them cheating on V, with V totally understanding and forgiving her. That’s the tip of the iceberg, as far as her ludicrous, absurd, and delusional comments go. And WE are being unfair?? BOTH of you are ridiculous.
Some of us have been supporters for a long time, and no, our lives don’t revolve around V, nor do we believe the number of comments on this site have anything to do with her popularity. I have no idea where that came from. We have every right to support her and be fans, just like you do with KStew and Kruger. How is our support any different? I do post on other celebs I like, but happen to post more here. Why is that any damn concern of yours? Who made YOU the boss of everyone? If we can’t post here as fans, where else do you propose we go? To Tisdale’s posts? Oh, yippee, let’s go there and gush over how Vanessa is perfection personified, how she is the most beautiful girl in the WORLD, and how it’s really ok to act like a **** in front of your BF and cheat with your best friends’ BF cause repressed feelings make it acceptable. That’s what this looney toon is spewing HERE, where it doesn’t belong.
I think she deserves whatever gets thrown at her, and to be honest, it’s disgusting that she made this post, which is recognizing the Power of Youth honorees, all about Tisdale, who we have absolutely no interest in. Tisdales posts have less than 10 comments, so I’m sure her support would be far more appreciated there. Why YOU are here, is a mystery. We, at least have a reason. You don’t.
@intric8: Wow where’d that retort come from lmao I called you out on your obvious want of lyrical warfare, and honey you just proved me right. You and @A are both devious little people in that you refuse to accept that anyone other than yourselves could be semi intelligent. If you took that overgrown carrot out of your backside you may come off as decent, but you don’t want us to think you are, and I don’t think you are anyway. Build a bridge and take a leap of faith.
@maria: These two could do wonders for Tisdales dying thread, by swapping stories of lust and promiscuity and the glamour and romantic ideas that are tied with it. Instead they choose to be hypocritical little people continuously posting regurgitated rubbish. @intric8′s presence on this thread is due to no one rising to ignite the argumentative flame he needs to feel a part of the V community that he so desperately wants to be a part of, else why would he continue to respond.
@intric8: how exactly am I ‘playing dirty’ as you not so nicely put it?
@MoreThanWords: Blah blah blah ad hominem blah blah blah meaningless big words blah blah blah. Stop being a condescending hypocrite, and stop being an intellectual poser. Im taking a break from your nonsense for a bit, but just a heads up for ya, i may be around on the next hudgens post. Please dont stroke your narcissism by claiming im just there to be included in your sad little club. theres a shortage of objective people around here for obvious reasons, people who would also justifiably put you in your place. Laters, guancos.
@intric8: A very good self observation of your attitude.
Hey A, before i go, i should clarify for you that when Boji said you and Ashley Tisdale were both ‘plastic’, she wasn’t referring to cosmetic surgery or your noses at all, but rather, was trying to say that you are both fake, or, pretentious. The term ‘plastic’ is used in that context in one country in particular, but not the U.S., which is why you misunderstood her.
@Intric8, how astute and thank you for the clarification. You could take it that way but I meant all plastic, pretentious, fake and superficial. Take your pick, more superficial in my case, as in shallow.
Admit it, you and peeps like Bo just can’t stay away from us.MoreThanWords’ analysis of the situation has a whole lot of truth in it, don’t you think?
And thank you for the compliment, not a Miss Manila or a Mrs. Manila even though I think the Filipinos are in general a goodlooking lot esp. With their Spanish heritage. I happen to be of no particular race, a melting pot, you call it and I like it that way.
We are family here and if you want to be a member feel free but I guess you need a stimulant of sorts. Glad we, Vanessa fans could oblige even if we can’t knock sense into your misguided intelligent little head.
@BOJI: The fact that he feels compelled to offer @A clarification shows that he has little to no faith in her ability to understand what you had to say. I don’t think @A is that dense, because she seems to have understood exactly what you were implying. The truth is BOJI, you are correct in that they can’t stay away. @A has already omitted a few times now that she is done here, but because Tisdales thread is now bearing ‘echoes’, this is the only place where their mashed up thoughts are responded to, and they absolutely thrive on it. Throw the dog a bone as they say.
@BOJI: I think Americans in general have a clear concise understanding of the term ‘plastic’ in all it’s derogatory glory, but perhaps @intric8 has a separate code of ethics exclusive to the club of 2.
I totally agree and we can expect Mr. Equaliser on the next Vanessa thread, not to mention miss Lunatic.
I totally agree and we can expect Mr. Equaliser on the next Vanessa thread, not to mention miss Lunatic.
I totally agree and we can expect Mr. Equaliser on the next Vanessa thread, not to mention miss Lunatic.
Hahaha I love that you have subbed them with such apt monikers! Although it is a pity that this particular thread, which was to celebrate their work with their chosen organizations was tainted. Still, we should come to expect their odd behavior is a norm, so when our paths cross in future threads we can expect the expected lol
@MoreThanWords: The joke is on YOU, morethanwords! We have now established thoroughly, for any people on JJ how lame you guys are. 600 comments should bring a few stragglers in. You’re a f*cked up chick. Bummer for your future husband.
@intric8: By whose rules has your fictional establishment been derived from? Joke on you honey, those so called stragglers have a mind of their own, they will believe what they choose to believe. What IS evident however is that you cannot fathom the idea that Vanessa has a strong fanbase on JJ. You can drum up comparisons between her parents as to which facial feature she has inherited from who, or support your lackey in the belief that cheating is acceptable, but the fact is, this thread has nearly accumulated 700 comments. We should be thanking you, really, but it’d be tossed back so fast we’d be hit square in the face with more rubbish. You only think I’m fcuked up because you find me loathsome. Not that I care, considering I am ‘unintelligent’ and more than likely an acne infested adolescent.
@intric8: Then how do you explain over 3000 comments on an ex thread, gossiping and gushing? Or the vile people on Jolie-Aniston threads? We were perfectly fine with our lovely little posts, just enjoying pics and news, watching this gal grow and mature. We didn’t need you here, to run up comments or stimulate conversation. Your negativity is exhausting and pointless. Occasionally, you show flashes of being human, but then you revert back to being nasty, and telling us we are crazy for being here. No, we are not, no more than you are being a KStew fan. I do NOT like her in any way, but you will never see me there, talking about how vile she is. You just enjoy being an a$$, and you need to grow up. Life is too short to spend it hating on others for their preferences. You can’t change us. Deal with it.
@maria: LOUD APPLAUD
@maria: But i came here for Sarah! And Jordan! And power of youth! This is much bigger than just Van. Right Maria? Sweetie?
@ Maria, hands down to you. Couldn’t have said it better.
How many comments have you made about Sarah and Jordan as compared to Vanessa, may I ask?
Why? What’s it to you?
@maria – You actually make a decent point. How old are you? Are you prettier than morethanwords? Is morethanwords even pretty?
@Intric8, What are you trying to get at, young man? Both are attractive on their own, if you want to know. What is it to you anyway? And what about you, care to describe yourself?
@Boji Geez, some people are so serious..
@maria You almost make a compelling argument if only you actually practiced what you just preached, which you don’t. Don’t hate others for their preferences? You can paint the picture anyway you want it but here’s what happened: I left a comment (void of any information about myself or my personal preferences) about Vanessa’s outfit. If you can’t handle that then you really shouldn’t be reading a gossip site. I follow Tisdale and there are always hateful comments left on her posts that I have to accept. Oh wait, you would know that because it’s always YOU guys posting them. Which is how your dear Haters suck! knew who I was and fired back immediately with a Tisdale insult. If anything, I’ve been here the entire time playing defense against a small slew of obsessors who are either unintelligent or too hellbent on making their own opinion verified that they’ll ignore and bend the truth all they want to. Not to mention, you will all conveniently ignore some of my most valid arguments, condemn me for any insult I might dare to utter even though you turn around and hurl double back at me, and far harsher ones I might add.
@boji seriously?? How do you know what they both look like. Do you all hang out? Are you friends in real life? No one else in the world understood you or your undying love for Vanessa so you formed a group? Is there a coffee house somewhere with a sign on the door that says “V Hudgz fans only” where you hold your meetings?
I’m going to try to explain (/defend) myself one last time. I DON’T hate Vanessa. It’s fun to see you guys riled up. Insulting her is like stepping on an ant hill and watching you all frantically run around in a tizzy, except there’s a whole lot less of you. Anyway, I don’t hate her and I don’t think she’s the devil or the worst person in the world the way you all seem to feel about Ashley. It would be a waste of my energy to spend despising someone I’ve never even met. I was defending my idol against a pack of rabid Vanessa fans and realize I may come off as just as obsessive but my infatuation with Ashley is not typically psychotic or over the top, I promise you. I guess y’all were just so impassioned I felt obligated to match your energy levels in order to have my opinion heard too. As for the Zashley matter, Zac and Ashley are celebrities who I happen to think have the potential to make an adorable couple. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie had an affair. It was much, much more terrible than Zac and Ashley getting together could ever be because Brad was MARRIED to Jen A. And yet America places the couple on a pedestal and adores them. (For the record I can’t stand them.) My point is, the majority of people who like to read about “Brangelina” in People magazine most likely are not having marital affairs themselves. So please do not assume that me supporting Zashley, which really wouldn’t even be that serious of an offense, unlike a marital affair, has any connection to my real life character. No, I’ve never slept with any of my best friend’s exes and I most likely wouldn’t unless we were seriously in love. In that case, I believe you have to just get over the “girl code” and I think the same should apply to Zac and Ash.
I’ve said my spiel. Go ahead @morethanwords, b*itch about how I just wrote you a novel.
@A LOL, they wont address you on point, they will throw out tons of red herrings and make you defend newer, dumber accusations. Its team hudgens style.
Ah yes, A, thats the whole point. They attacked YOU first. You merely commented on van. I keep telling them that its personal somehow. I think van is family.
Honestly, It’s that vile mouth of HatersSuck and that foolish writing class that morethanwords is taking which keep things unpleasant and needlessly complicated here. LOL!
@Boji You need to take the advice i gave you a page back or two. It was actually well intentioned for you.
@A: fool how about I just skipped to the end, luckily I was able to save myself hours of mind numbing boredom weeding through your mess. Though your BFF @intric8 seems to have had a good read. Atleast we know now that he’s not entirely illiterate and that clowns (you and intric8) are very entertaining.
You know morethanwords, A is stating her case very clearly and concisely. You might do well to read it. It’s free of all the jibberish and logical fallacies you generously serve out, and we at least afford you the courtesy of reading your drivel.
@intric8: FYI tool graduated, first class,nothing complicated about it, but you really hate the fact that I’m not some cave dwelling she b*itch huh?
And I’ll guess we’ll see the both of you on the next Vanessa thread. Welcome to the outer circle of our fold, me lovelies. Yes, it has been somewhat entertaining. A, you scared me there for awhile. Thought there was little hope. Frantic, you say? Hardly my dear, I kind of felt sorry for you.
And you, Intric8, I like the Dr. Jekyll but not the Mr. Hyde in you. Play nice and fair and you’ll get the same treatment. And I really don’t need your advice, young man. You should be the one taking it from me.
@intric8: Clear and concise fled this thread over 300 posts ago. There is nothing @A can repeat that hasn’t already bled out through this entirely comical dialogue. Your inclusion came at a time when you needed some attention, and you got it. You have a serious dysfunctional inability to read my posts in the way they are meant to be understood. I don’t think either of you will quite pick up on the subtleties which is blatantly obvious to everyone else. It really is disappointing that you both have conditioned your minds into thinking you two are anything but 6 cans short of a six pack.
@morethanwords plenty of idiots have graduated and plenty have done it with honors. That doesn’t prove your intelligence in anyway. Instead of addressing any of the points I brought up, you ignored them and chose to boast again about your own accomplishments. FYI that won’t ever help you win a debate.
No. I respect your accomplishment. I love and appreciate it when people strive academically, but this entire comments section is a completely different matter.
@BOJI: Sense and sensibility does not apply to these two. Period. hahaha
@A and your intelligence has been put to good use is it? Please refer to your original comment on Vanessa’s thread. Intelligence does not make you a better human being. Hitler was intelligent .
@morethanwords there you go again. Your best defense mechanism is to claim false superiority over us. Much better than attempting to actually form an intelligent argument and failing, right?
@MoreThanWords, unfortunately. What a waste. I shall have to retire. Been out the whole day shopping with my offspring. I bid thee goodnight, till the morrow.
@Boji now you’re comparing me to Hitler because I didn’t like Vanessa’s outfit? I’m disappointed in you. I thought you weren’t quite as radical and unreasonable as the rest of this lot. Perhaps I was wrong.
@A: I suggest you find your way back to the very beginning of this ‘argument’ and you will find that 1) everything you pointed out was addressed 2) I seriously hope that by the time you begin an academic career you drop the attitude because if you think I am flakey, considering I don’t personally feel I have lacked in responding to your comments, you will cross paths with individuals who will take pleasure is taking you down in a public setting as opposed to a Hollywood gossip site. You wouldn’t have a clue about debating, and no making references to teen magazines are not reference worthy when asked for valid sources.
@A Thankyou, personally I love immersing myself in a learning environment, and I take offense to being called unintelligent and dumb as would anyone else who has put in huge amounts of effort to further themselves in what ever path they choose. As for this thread, I agree in that it has gone completely pear shaped, out of topic discussions, insults tossed about like freshly made salad, and yes we haven’t made it easy for @A but, it goes BOTH ways, and to blame this entire farce on V fans alone in really unfair.
@MoreThanWords: No. Then you are merely cherry picking. But you’ve been doing that all along. You can’t accuse people who don’t agree with you as being stupid, or not seeing your point. That is asinine. You, w/this: “You have a serious dysfunctional inability to read my posts in the way they are meant to be understood.” Are you actually serious with that statement, morethanwords?
I don’t place any lying cheaters on a pedestal. Never use the words most, all or none because there is no way whatever you say after that is going to be true. Simply you can’t speak for everybody. Didn’t care about Brad and Angie before they cheated and lied about it, really don’t care about them now. Felt sympathy for Jennifer, but that’s it. What happen between them happen AT THE END of their marriage, pretty sure Jennifer knew what was coming. You have been saying this, whatever you want to call it, has been going on since BEFORE Vanessa and Zac were in a relationship. When were Jennifer and Angie ever best friends, again? It’s like comparing apples and oranges. Both fruit but very different.
Now you are changing your story to “I didn’t say it happen” from “You could tell something was going on” (from a picture or whatever).
If you think intric8 is on your side, forget that. He is just a liitle bug who likes to make trouble for the sake of trouble which is why I tend to ignore him and his ranting. It’s time to just let this go. I make it my business only comment on people that I find interesting. YOU ALONE MADE ZAC AND ASHLEY INTO LYING CHEATERS. No one else believed that,but if you insist…….
@intric8: That was not to be taken literally, if you read my posts, comments, you will see that a majority are written cryptically, mostly with metaphors and similes. I can’t help it, that’s how I have been writing since I was 9 and it sort of expanded from there. And FYI, it was @A who actually started calling us dumb and unintelligent.
@MoreThanWords: “Sense and sensibility does not apply to these two. Period. hahaha” – Are you KIDDING with this? So a person is sensible as long as they agree with you, right? Good God. I’m sure your professor would have much to say about your ability to bend reason, should he deign to waste the time it would take to read this post.
@morethanwords they haven’t actually and I can debate quite well thank you. Before I begin my academic career? I’m already in college. And referencing teen magazines IS an appropriate source when you’re referring to teen stars.
@intric8: lmao again too literally! My Professor rather enjoyed my work, as did others. But that’s just boasting remember? A no no haha
@tina: Nice try. You want A to turn against ME, when i have done nothing to offend her, but you guys have? I’m late. Gotta go.
@tina I was relieved when I thought you had disappeared from this post. You are the most irrational of all of them and you continue to misrepresent what I have said. What I said was you can tell from videos, pictures, and interviews that Zac and Ashley have definitely always had a deeper connection and that they most likely have hooked up in the past. I stand by that. As far as when it happened in terms of Vanessa and whatnot, I don’t know. And as for the Pitt/Jolie point, really? The affair is WHAT ended the marriage. Instead of understanding my point, which was that supporting a certain celebrity couple does not have any correlation with a person’s moral integrity in the real world, you chose to defend the other couple? You really must get a kick out of hypocrisy at its highest point.
@A: Debate quite well? On how many occasions have you flown off the handle in this thread? About as many times as I have fingers and toes. Not very good at keep your cool. If you mean University, then more power to you, and you just haven’t met anyone willing to take on that argumentative behaviour of yours. Referencing teen mags is about as reliable as referencing what we on these threads. Gossip and hearsay aren’t reliable sources.
Last comment- morethan words, get some help before your future husband divorces you after a week or takes a baseball bat to your head. You will strip him of his sanity. You’ll need a real mind reader for anyone to truly understand wtf is going on in your brain.
@morethanwords Yes, I mean what British people refer to as “university.” (I’m assuming you’re British.) Actually, I’ve made an A on every English paper I’ve written and my professor has used some as the example for her other lectures. Most of my papers are persuasive pieces. You can call it argumentative behavior if you like, but I think I’m very capable of expressing my side of an issue and the majority of professionals I’ve encountered thus far have agreed.
@intric8: lmfao now why would you make reference to a violent act? I didn’t say anything out of order, but somehow I deserve to have bat meat head?? People understand me just fine, and they seem to manage on here. It’s the likes of you and @A who are blinded by your own egos that think otherwise. How in the world were you able to respond, when you claim to have no understanding??
@A: How am I defending anyone? Reread what I said, I plainly stated ‘Didn’t care about t