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Vanessa Hudgens: Post Golden Globes LAX Departure!

Vanessa Hudgens: Post Golden Globes LAX Departure!

Vanessa Hudgens keeps it casual chic while heading to the airport to catch a departing flight on Monday (January 14) in Los Angeles.

The night before, the 24-year-old actress and her Spring Breakers‘ co-star Selena Gomez were both dressed up while attending the Weinstein Company Golden Globes After Party.

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On the way to the party with Selena, Vanessa wrote on her blog, “Taken on the way to the Golden Globes after party! I obviously sat next to an angel. Lol. #NoFilter.”

FYI: Vanessa is wearing AllSaints boots.

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# 8

she is going back to NY

# 9


she looks adorable with no make up

Laura was with her <3 BFF

isnt she adorable? LOVE HER

thank you for help us to geth her to 100 comments on all her post, it doesnt matter if you post ugly pictures! hahaha

flawless, she is going to see her boyfriend <3

according to X17, Selena was with V and Laura <3

Well I now know for a FACT it’s one person doing this first page work. I had this whole thread to myself for a while, then when one person shows up, all of the sudden all of these random different names show up with the “gorgeous” comments. LOL.

is that Vanessa? because she looks horrible there, ewww just look at her nose. The Vanessa we know is a natural beauty.

my goodness . i don’t know why I always have to wake up to a post of a young famewhore ! how did the show of her beau went ?

how horrible can one person be!!?? just look at that “i think im sexy” pose, duck lips much?

my goodness . i don’t know why I always have to wake up to a post of a young famewhore ! how did the show of her beau go ?

and thats what you do when you cant act, be in a scary movie film

when you can’t get a serious role… you end up like her.

calling the papzz again? lol

she was always the third wheel.. and she still is the most irrelevant.


this is sheer madness . when i loaded the first page it only had 10 comments . 2 minutes later when i posted the commet it’s the 33rd comment . this is sheer madness!!!

ugly as usual

@twilight loving twelve year old b!tch, Ashley just booked a leading role with Nicolas Cage. I call that serious work. There’s nothing wrong with comedy. Nothing wrong with slapstick. Look up Movie 43. Look at its cast. You don’t know sh!t about what you’re talking about. Ashley is a headliner. Vanessa is a “oh wait, that girl was in that movie? Really?” side line player. This one website is the only place where she gets this much attention.

we knoe that, this A girl is posting pics of famewhoree tisdale here… she is trying to make her relevant

hey she is on the list of worst dressed! she finally made one list!

LMAO all about the Golden Globes was about Vanessa and Selena… and oh yeah tisdale was there too! hahaha please, she didnt even gt one post.. i think her friend Perez posted about her.. wait.. not even him, it was all about Vanessa and Selena hahaha

@HS it’s pointeless now. My goal was to spam the FIRST page, since it means so much to you guys that it’s filled with “she looks gorgeous!” comments.

Are you posting all the pics to prove how irrelevant she is? or just to help Vanessa? is not our fault if Jared doesn’t care about her on the main site.

Typical Vanessa Hudgens Crazy @ 01/14/2013 at 7:37 pm

Oh my God Vanessa is so perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sweatpants AGAIN???!!!!!!!!!!?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????? SHE LOOKS SO GORGEOUS IN THOSE SWEATPANTS NO ONE ELSE CAN WEAR SWEATPANTS LIKE SHE DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at her hair pieces!! That’s called naturally beautiful fake hair! I’m going to go put a bullet in my brain over how amazing she is!!!! kjsdfkljakljdf;lakjd;fklja;ldfkjAKLDSJFK;LJASDK;LFJA;LDSKFJA;LDSKFJK;LJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kristen doesnt have a facebook and yet she is better than Ashley! LMAO you are so desesperate, thats why no one cares about tisdale, because she has fans like you. hahaha at least Vanessa was at a couple of international film festivals and she is only 24, tisdale is almost 30 and she is doing a SCARY MOVIE. just because Anna dropped the role.

So apparently Selena and maybe Laura slept over last night. That’s cute and now I’m sure she’s off to be with Austin in NYC again.

why is duck lips aka famewh*ore tisdale on this post? her 1 fan here is so dumb

Vanessa is so cute, just look at that little face!

yaaayy she is on her way to NY <3

@kstew not true.

He gave her whole own article. He posts about Ashley wayyyyyyyyyy more than Vanessa and his gossip site is wayyyyyyy more relevant than this one.

ew, we don’t need ugly people on Vanessa´s post. She needs to do something with her eyes… she looks like a mouse.

actually Kstewfan , Ashley has her own post about GG ‘headlined’ in JJr also at this very moment .

@kstewfan Yeah but Vanessa DOES have facebook and she has half the fans as Ashley. Your point was invalid. What are we, just listing celebrities we like now? LOL. Ashley is 27, THREE years apart from Vanessa. And she’s got a whole hell of a lot of films coming up, a lot more than Vanessa. Just wait and see you homely little b!tch worshipper. :)

Not replying to you anymore. Bye.

why are you spamming us with picture of this irrelevant wannabe OK magazine cover girl? lol believe me you are only increasing the dislike towards that irrelevant disney star.
This post is about Vanessa, I know Ashley doesnt even get a single post here, but at least Vanessa´s fansare not as childish as you. Why was Ashely at the parties? to promote herself, she didnt have one single movie since HSM3, come on.

you DO realize that no one would have talked about hudgens going to GG except jj and jr had she NOT gone to it without Selena who’s still fresh from her split from her high profile BF2, 3 days ago

how irrelevant is she? she doesnt have a post, then her fan has to post herpictures. poor girl

VANESSA HUDGENS CRAZY FANS @ 01/14/2013 at 7:48 pm



AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! VANESSA BREATHED TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT A GREAT CAREER MOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


she is so pretty

@JJ LOL none of what you just said was the truth. Jared is the only person who cares about Vanessa. Him and the few obssessors that come here. The only other sources I saw about “Vanessa” was just about how Selena was at the Golden Globes without Justin Bieber, and how Vanessa was there too. Ashley meanwhile got some of her own articles. So that’s better. Oh and Ashley’s had movies since HSM and she has a ton coming, so get ready.

if you want to spam V post to get her to 100 comments early, at least you should post pictures of someone pretty or famous… or someone attractive. Ashley was famous back in 2007 with HSM and the suit life, but now?really? pfff no one cares about her, if you want her pictures hereso desperately you can e mail Jared about it. but honeslty she is really horrible to me, i dont want to see her ugly face here, it would give me nightmares.

thank you.

@luna lol stop changing your name. Hudgens c team is all the same person and we all know it.

Again, what’s a bigger number TWELVE MILLION or SIX MILLION. Because the first is how many sweet Ashley has and the second is how many Hobo Hudge Pudge has. Twice as many fans equals twice as relevant. Duh.

lmao “OK magazine cover girl” soooo pathetic!

Vanessa looks gorgeous. It was so nice to wake up to like 100 articles about Vanessa last night! and there would be more pictures tonight!

Covering OK magazine is better than covering some Canadian magazine no one’s ever heard of that is so desperate they’ll even take Butler for the cover.

someone needs surgery again…

@JCF: vanessa and austin are not dating and isnt going to see her ex boyfriend Austin butler

“Vanessa Hudgens manages to take the lead in this four-way race. I love her spike shouldered Jenny Packham dress, but Sel’s Atelier Versace dress lends some much needed curves to her boyish bod courtesy of the peplum detail and beaded bodice.

Sarah’s Pavoni frock is flirty and cute yet age appropriate, and I love that Taylor Swift seems to have started a cleavage trend. I must, tragically, place Ashley and her Issa gown last on my list, mostly for the flesh-toned color and Ash’s done-to-death pout, which I’m sure in her mind looks sultry and cute but to the rest of us she just looks like she’s in desperate need of a colonic.”

“Ashley Tisdale brought her A-game to the InStyle and Warner Bros. Golden Globes after party on Sunday.
The Tiz was positively radiant in the simple yet absolutely elegant Issa gown with side cut-outs that made the most of her gorgeous bod.
Totally divine!
She completed her look with a loose updo, gemstone cuff, and ivory LK Bennett clutch.
Ashley was completely flaw-free, but what do you expect when you wear two of Kate Middleton’s faves?”

not really Vanessa was the cover of Glow Canada, just like Nikki Reed, nicole scherzinger, Nicole Kidman, Sofia Vergara and Austin was the cover of another GLow magazine, not the Fashion Mag. #justsaying lol

@Haters Suck!: I like our pics better than hers! No contest!

@maria: Omg A has finally lost her mind. Well I guess Vanessa’s watching Carries Dairies with Austin. (10 mins in he’s shirtless and wet).lol.

@HatersSuck and Maria, thanks for reminding me why I chose Vanessa as a celebrity to be a fan of. She has an interesting face and her beauty is natural.

@ A no thanks to you for spamming and reminding me why I find Ashely so fake except for her friendship with Vanessa.

@tina aren’t you way way too old for the CW? Come now Meemaw, I think 700 club might be on.

Haters Suck! @ 01/14/2013 at 8:26 pm

Much better and much prettier.
I thought the show was tomorrow. Oops

@Bohji Well to me I find Ashley the one to be naturally beautiful. Look at the Golden Globes pics. With Vanessa I see fake hair, face caked full of makeup, an over done sequined, super low cut v, super studded dress with way too many gaudy accessories. With Ashley I see a simple elegant dress and simple but elegant makeup. Sure her hair is dyed, but who’s in Hollywood isn’t? I think Ashley is gorgeous. Vanessa is pretty, but I think Ashley overshadows her.

Also, thanks for reminding me Ashley looks a lot more real and interesting when she had her old nose.

@Bohji whatever. Ashley looks interesting to me. The reason you find Vanessa so interesting looking is because you’re invested in her and know her personality and you see that in her face. I see the same in Ashley. I think she’s beautiful no matter how you berate her. And millions of other people do too.

I never watch 700 club. Sorry but they’re a bunch of prejudice hypocrites, you would fit right in.

Nicole blah blah was’t on Glow .they wre on harper bazzar .it waas the same cover that Austin showed his face on .

hello old one !

So after the parties Vanessa, Selena and Laura had a sleepover. You can see the paps parked in front of her house. She looks great make up free here.

Glow Magazine (the one with Austin) is not the same as Glow Canada (the fashion magazine with Vanessa) .

Hello little one.

@tina LOL no I wouldn’t. I hate religious hypocritical crap. I was just thinking of a stereotypical “old people” show. Okay, shouldn’t you be watching TV Land and not the CW? Better?

Haters Suck! @ 01/14/2013 at 8:53 pm

I woulda gone with dumb one. Or psycho one.

@A, now you get it, so I don’t see the point of you shoving your idol in our faces on Vanessa’s threads. You don’t find us doing what you do here on your idol’s threads do you? If we did that then, you have every right to call us pimps. We are fans of Vanessa just like you are of ms. Tisdale but we are respectful enough to stay here on our idol’s threads. Can you influence Mr. tinfoil(I like that) to kindly stick to KStew or better yet Ashley’s threads as he seems partial to her, thanks to you. I think you both make a lovely couple, ; ))

See that’s where you make your mistake trying to pigeon hole someone you don’t know based on your limited experiences in life. You keep living your pretend life where what her face is the queen of everything and stay the he ll out of mine.

@tina lol it was just a joke. But my point is you’re too old for the CW. 90210, Gossip Girl, Hellcats, get the idea?

@Aryanna: It would be nice if Austin and her had broke up to me they do not make a cute couple.

kid exposed by her mom! @ 01/14/2013 at 9:36 pm

who’s that eleven year old girl in the pics on the front page? the new version of honey boo-boo? i mean, look at that orange color…someone’s been abusing of fake creepy!

@A: I remember Hellcats it was good when AJ was the main star. Got canned when the focus was put on whats her face. Guess the fb fans weren’t enough to save it.

Sel + V fans Vote for Spring Breakers!:
:) We made it to the 2nd round in the MTV Movie Brawl and don’t want to loose to the One Directioners
Anyway, Van looks gorgeous per usual and I’m so happy she’s spending time with Laura & Selena & Kim H and not the Hollywood fakes.

@jl: its true and i know right and i heard a rumor that vanessa and Austin ended their relationship and are seperated now

Haters Suck! @ 01/14/2013 at 10:12 pm

Did the voices in your head tell u that rumor?

She is so natural and beautiful.

@tina Aly dumb@ss not AJ. And sure, blame the cancellation on Ashley. Never mind that the reason tuned in in the first place was for her, not Aly.

@maria: Yep. That’s because you guys discriminate talent based on nose sizes and hair color. The ideal for both is two tiny slits for nostrils in the middle of the face and hair color the same as oil coming out of the ground. And Bohji says IM the racist LMAO

the Glow magazine both wre on was the same .
hello suk something , the hairless dic.ked prick !!

@Haters Suck!: How’s that dating site coming dude? LOL

Wait, did they mistake the pics above of a small-time older italian or arabic actress for Vanessa, or is that really vanessa?

@A: Guess you can’t blame em for having their own predilection. That’s why i’d like to recommend to haterssuck that he recycle all of his empty beer cans from his backyard, which are numerous, take that money and travel to China or the Philippines and find his ‘dreamgirl’, or at least get laid there for a change. Perhaps he won’t be so cranky after that. Maybe he can finally break his virgin glass balls LOL

@Nightwish: I dunno though, i think the chick he marries will probably dump him once she gets her greencard and then take him for all he’s worth including his very modest 2 bedroom house in a not so highly regarded county, the one with the porch and backyard full of weeds close to a sorry excuse for a pond, which is actually a west nile virus breeding ground

@A: It’s sad, but i hear it all the time actually. Once these women get their citizenship, greencard or whatever, they oftentimes bail on their spouse the same month. Having 2, 3 or 4 kids, it doesn’t matter, they are gone. Look at that mail order site for example. Its so funny that these women in their 20′s are looking for ‘love’ with guys in their 50′s. These desperate older men in the u.s. are so pathetic and stupid. Regarding HS, the only reason he has a house is because his mom will pass it on to him. It’s not like he went out and bought it himself LOL

@A: Exactly! I also envision hatersuck living with his mom. I don’t know why.

@nightwish well what do they expect? It’s wrong to begin with. You’re basically paying for a sex slave like a woman is some kind of object. They do it because they want in to the country. I don’t blame them for leaving the creeps lol.

So you think HS lives in the basement? Somehow I envision him as the type who still lives in his childhood room, rocketship sheets and all LOL.

@A: There’s this older filipina lady i am friends with who works the register at an eating place near my work. She looked really down one day and told me about what just happened to her brother. He had four kids with this lady he brought in, and he was a very loving family guy. The woman he married obviously used him because she left him the DAY she got her greencard or whatever. Didn’t say bye to the kids, nothing. Gone. She tells me “never go to the _____ and marry a girl there because they might use you”. I told her “look at me, do you think i have to resort to crap like that?” LOL. Anyways, i don’t think hatersuck lives in a basement. I picture his small house elevated on stilts because he lives in an area that floods all the time ha ha

Nessa looks gorge!

@Nightwish @A give us a description of what you think @Bohji and @maria must be like. You know just like you are doing with @Haters Suck. Now that would be very interesting to read. I love reading you guys.

So I guess we are underway for the Spring Breakers promo. Bring it on.

A must’ve rubbed her fan fiction writing skills off Nightwish. Been hanging out together much?

hate her, thinks she’s the best but she sucks.

She is so so pretty !

Omg love you Vanessa I’m such a huge fan of uuu, luv you xx

Nice hair hoping to hear more about your upcoming projects v! Xx

bOTH @Haters Suck and @A are being just as childish as eachother. i really thought @A had gone past this spamming especially the fact that she managed to compliment vanessa but now shes p*ssed and retaliated so now the whole cycle has started again with the whole “ashley is more relevant”but “vanessa’s prettier” crap. this is seriously annoying. ashley hasn’t been to the golden globes in a while so it was nice to see her there. at first i wasn’t sure why but then someone told me it was cuz of scary movie and i fully understood. sel and vanessa were also there for spring breakers promotion and all the girls looked gorgeous. selena looked funky and flirty, vanessa looked strong and sexy and ashley looked greek and sweet.

@Hayley and @Alison another pumper obviously just changed their name to pimp Pudge

Gosh!this is so pointless! just leave her alone!

florence2 @ 01/15/2013 at 6:09 am

Seems like she can’t bear to be apart from Austin for long don’t know why they don’t just get married he lives with her within 12 months of them getting together so marriage and kids are the next logical step so just do it.

florence2 @ 01/15/2013 at 6:11 am

Judging by picture 6 she loves smelling Austin’s clothes bet she can’t waitto be back with her man

Is not Vanessa in above pictures, is Iranian actress Golshifteh Farahani! Is Golshifteh!

@florence2: why do you keep saying marriage and stuff? they’ve only been dating a year sheesh dont scare the poor boy

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 6:53 am

@samsam: Good morning. Being that you’re a bit of a clueless noob, let me spell it out for you. This isn’t a ‘celeb vs her trolls’ battle on these posts, it’s a war between pudgekin’s trolls and ‘hater’ trolls, ‘hater’ for lack of better word. We aren’t here to harrass Pudgie per se; rather, we are here to counter typical Hudgens fan activity that is rife with misrepresentation, multiple id spam originating from the same person, fiegned fawning to create a false impression of massive infatuation with pudge; and these are but a few of a multitude of irking trollfaggory type nonsenses that her regulars engage in that compel us to stay involved. I might recommend that you stay neutral or pick a side, because attacking people in both factions may get you in the bad graces of both sides and right quick, but its your life anyhow, you can do as you darn well please, and with that i bid you a fantastic day ahead

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 6:58 am

@V you are very kind. Its so hard to do on the spot though, it has to come with the right mood.@florence2: My insignificant opinion is this- if pudgies career stalls out for the rest of the year, she will pressure austin to set a date to get married and maybe even flush bc pills down the toilet if worse comes to worse lol

@Nightwish: i understand where you are coming from but my motives was not to “attack” both parties but to help them understand that this battle is one that is pointless and may have no end due to the fact that everyone has an opinion. somebody has to be the bigger person and say “whatever” unless it will keep going. may i add that i find it offensive that you refer to me as a “clueles noob” as i haven’t ever used such language towards you or..anyone else on this thread. there was no need to spell it out i was just stating my opinion, as were you. i bid you a fantastic day as well. :)

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 7:56 am


Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 8:03 am

@take a hike: You again? Kiss my ass you f ck ing scallywag @samsam: You are actually quite fair, perhaps i used the wrong word with ‘attacking”. Was just trying to give you some background. Yes we all love to get immature here from time to time. Its a wonderful escape from all the pain in the butt seriousness and political correctness in the world

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 8:08 am

@samsam: Dont be offended by my use of clueless noob. ‘noob’ is net slang for newbie, and if you had freshly popped in on hatersucks juvenile diatribe earlier and read us going back and forth, quite naturally you would have been clueless as to what was going on.

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 8:10 am


Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 8:14 am

@take a hike: WOW was making veiled threats to kill me a while ago, why do i feel like you two are the same person? Are you hatersuck? You sound like him too. It’s so hard to tell with all the phake id’s you guys use. Oh well.

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 8:17 am

I’m neither one but you better hope you never come within two feet of me. So glad you can hide your little b itch ass behind a computer screen. You have real problems man. Truly one of the most f ucked people on this site,

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 8:19 am


Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 8:25 am

@samsam: Exhibit A to their lunacy, comment #174

Not sure if I dislike Ashley or her fans more…. Especially the one that has the constant need to post about her on Vanessa’s posts… And maybe she has 12 million followers but let’s be honest… Most fb users don’t even remember the likes they have done…. Same goes for Vanessa…. And let me remind you that Vanessa has 3 serious upcoming movies while Tisdale only one(i mean one serious role)… It’s actually hilarious that her fans thought that scary movie is a serious step for her career…. At least here in Greece I see Vanessa’s posts me mentioning her movies…. The very few posts I see about Tisdale don’t mention anything…. Oh and the scary movie trailer is absoutely awful… And many scary movie fans have the same opinion…. The only thing she’s good at is playing for Disney movies…. As for those who say that Vanessa is a famewh*re…. I think the biggest famewh*res are those who post on Twitter all the time because Guess what? most people are not interested on seeing 10 pictures of you in one day…..

Merlin's Mum @ 01/15/2013 at 9:48 am

Blimey! These threads have gone completely crazy lately!!!

Oh I just saw that Vanessa is among the after parties’ best dressed list on a Greek blog!

Because it’s obvious they should get married he lives with her she can’t stand to be parted from him for more than a couple of days she looks a lot happier and content when he is with her. She has found her soul mate on all levels so why should they wait there both of legal age so I say go for it.

@kate Guess what???? Vanessa has instagram now! The SOLE purpose of that is posting PICTURES. You stupid b!tch. She uses instagram, facebook, and has her own blog. The only form of social media she isn’t using is twitter, and again she has her own full length blog (twitter is just microblogging). Also, I happen to love that Ashley uses twitter and her 8.5 million followers there seem to also. As a fan of someone, you want to be kept up to date with them, hear things from them in their own words, and get candid pictures that you wouldn’t necessarily get from the papz. That’s famewh0ring? Well then I guess all celebrities who tweet are famewh0res… fyi that’s like 80% of them.

Also, Scary Movie is SLAPSTICK. Why don’t you guys seem to have any sense of humor. Maybe if you all get together collectively and each share what you find to be a funny story, together you’ll be able to stop psychoanalyzing and muster up a chuckle? Maybe???

I can’t WAIT for Scary Movie. It’s fun! As for saying Ashley has one SERIOUS role. Big f*ucking deal.

You wanna know the top five paid actresses in Hollywood? Angelina Jolie, Sarah Jessica Parker, Jennifer Aniston, Reese Witherspoon, and Julia Roberts.

Jolie is the only one in the group who is particularly known for doing “serious” roles. The rest mainly stick to rom coms, though on occasion Reese or Julia will step out to do something else (like Ashley doing this Nick Cage film.)

The point is, people go to the theater the most to see comedy. America’s sweethearts are made of funny girls not gritty serious girls. My girl’s heading down THAT path, and I’m very glad for it. You see, if that’s your path you don’t need critical acclaim. The public loves you and that’s enough. But if you do Vanessa’s type of roles and your performances aren’t well received, well then you’re nothing. And if you think Hudgens is on her way to the Oscar, well good luck to you sweetheart. You’ll need it.

OH and a “Greek Blog??” Big effin deal. This may shock you but Hudgens lives in AMERICA. And here, that dress is so not f*ucking chic.

@Nightwish: i know it appears as though this person is having a convo by themselves at one point.

@Nightwish: Exhibit B comment #181, a typical example where people have clearly p*ssed this person off to breaking point. it feels like shes shouting at me and its not even aimed at me.

@samsam: That is passion over a celeb she loves. It goes both ways here, and it’s a long story. Btw, what do you make of this ‘take a hike’ fella? Is he justified in threatening me the way he does? I’m beginning to wonder if it’s actually Vanessa’s dad. I know its a guy.

@A: They don’t have a sense of humor, and that’s the whole problem

@Nightwish: i get that its a passion but it seems pointless that she is responding to some people who may or may not just be taking the p*ss. i think take a hike is a guy who is maybe gay not sure lol

@take a hike: This is what i know about you, ass*hole. You are a guy. You are a regular reader. You are begging for jared to bring downvotes back, so maybe you were the one who knew how to vote unlimited. You possibly comment regularly under another name, but it’s hard to say. Vanessa is someone personal to you somehow, by fandom, friendship or relation. Here are some possibilities.
A random psycho male fan other than hatersuck
Hatersuck, because you guys sound similar
Vanessa’s dad, because you take things so personal
Austin, because you take things so personal
A male relative of Vanessa’s, because you take things so personal
Who of the above are you?

# 134 Nightwish @ 01/14/2013 at 10:57 pm
@maria: “Yep. That’s because you guys discriminate talent based on nose sizes and hair color. The ideal for both is two tiny slits for nostrils in the middle of the face and hair color the same as oil coming out of the ground.”

Interesting comment. Cause talent was never discussed when we were debating reasons we found someone not attractive. So it’s ok for you to dislike V’s chin and call it unflattering names, and not ok for me to say Ashley’s long nose and bleached straw hair are unattractive features for me? And it’s ok for A to dislike gorgeous cheekbones because Ashley doesn’t have any? Hypocritical much? And where did I say her nose interferes with her talent??? I never did, nor ever implied it. Typical trash talkin’ by you Stooges. Putting words in people’s mouths. Shameless. Everyone has different ideals of beauty, and that’s what was being discussed. Talent has nothing to do with that.

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 11:38 am

@Nightwish: None of the above you stupid f uck.

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 11:41 am

@Nightwish: Why do I dislike you so much? Cause I see you as you are.. a little b itch making crude comments that he would never make to someone’s face.

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 11:42 am

@samsam: Save yourself the headache of trying to understand this freak. This guy will always turn on you like he did maria and the others. He is a lost cause and a lost soul.

Thanks for your comment kate. Good to hear Vanessa movies are anticipated in Greece, also. SB is on most of the most anticipated list here too. The dress made some best dress list here in the US( I’m not able to speak for all the countries in the continent) .
I’ve seen the pictures Vanessa posts,daybreaks, night views, the montains behind her house (you know photography is one of her hobbies) as opposed to self portraits everyday.
THEY (Atric) have been here night and day, the two of the at one point were talking only to each other. I wonder if they took time to eat or shower. Sad, when the only important thing in your life is hatred for someone you don’t personally know.
You know there is a saying “success is the best revenge.”

1) First, don’t compare Tisdale to these actresses. They have twice the talent she’ll ever have.Even though I don’t think that some of them are not the most talented actresses in Hollywood.
2) She may have Instagram but she’s not posting personal pics all the time with friends from everywhere she goes even if is Starbucks.
3)Tisdale may have all those followers but not even 1/4 is interested in her. She’s more known as the friend of Selena or Zac.
4)I never said that Tisdale has no fans. But you should accept that Vanessa also has fans. I know it’s hard but you should!
5) Scary movie was not hilarious. This may shock you too but many many people have the same opinion.
6) Who said anything about an Oscar???
7) I don’t know if you heard but actors who play serious roles are very very famous. Twice as your idol or Vanessa.
8) As a matter of fact Vanessa was mentioned in various blogs about the golden globes. Not only in Greece but in America too. And many liked her look.
9)Let me tell you that it is important to be known outside America because movies are not only shown there.
10) YOU WILL NEVER CALL ME A ***** AGAIN!!! I don’t know you and I didn’t insult you. I talked about Tisdale not you! And you are one of the most pathetic people. Seriously! Who goes all the time on other people posts to talk about their idol who is not relevant??? I feel sorry for you because you spend all your day on Vanessa’s posts. And I’d rather be a ***** than you…


1. Ashley has just as much talent and she’s down that PATH. Obviously she hasn’t reached their status yet.

2. Vanessa’s first pictures were self portraits. And one of her very first was a photo of her and Ashley that she tagged Ashley in. Not even a recent one. She called it #flashback. Using her to gain followers much?

3. If that’s so then 1/4 is also interested in Vanessa and that still leaves Ashley with a lot more fans. And no, Ashley is not just the friend of Selena or Zac. That’s stupid. Vanessa is just the s!ut with the nude scandal or Zac’s ex, how’s that? Obviously the fans of both girls love them as individuals. You can’t fault Ashley for having friends who are famous as well.

4. Of course she also has fans. I’m talking to you right now aren’t I?

5. Sure, and many people who can laugh at slapstick and don’t have needles up their @sses all the time also enjoyed it.

6. My point was that if you do comedy roles, it’s easy to gain the public’s love and be A list. If you do drama roles but they aren’t well received, well then you’re B list for sure.


8. Blogs, oooh!! LOL. Ashley was too. But who cares? That means nothing.

9. Duh. But you were talking about fashion. You think Ashley isn’t famous outside of the US? Guess again. She’s famous in Britain, all over Europe, South America, etc. They love her.

10. I’M CALLING YOU A B!TCH AGAIN!!!!!! LOL. BTW I’m not here all the time, no matter what bitchee tina says. Seriously, go through my comments. You’ll see that there will be several made within a very confined amount of time and then I’ll go away again. Usually. It’s called mobile internet. I do have a life. And my idol is three times as relevant as yours so just accept that stupid b!tch. Are you also a hundred years old like the rest of the pumpers?

@take a hike: Keep talking.

Why would V flush her bc pills? That would be the act of not only a stupid girl, but also a desperate one. V is neither of these things. Pregnancy is not a guarantee that a guy will marry you. Plenty of women have children these days without being married. V is smart enough to know that her career is in its infancy, and that is the ONLY infant that is in her life. (Oh, wait, there are plenty of her “fans” that act like infants, I suppose.)

take a hike @ 01/15/2013 at 12:38 pm

@Nightwish: Gay? RU fuc king serious?? That’s rich coming from a dude that talks about hair extensions and dresses. You’re the queen not me.

She needs a younger style

What does any of this have to do with being gay? You are obviously a homophobic idiot. You can’t think of anything of value to say, so you stoop to racist comments.

Kate you better see comment 196. Actually you all better. It’s Vanessa’s instagram. Now bow your head in shame over your own hypocrisy.

@Deb:Do you know what the he ll you’re commenting about? Nightwish is the one who started with the homophobic slurs. Whenever someone makes a point the both of them (he and A) immediately start using slurs and profanities. When your know you’re wrong about something when you can’t make your point without name calling.

@tina uhm “deb’s” comment is made to nightwish. Maybe you’re “deb” and you’re just trying to stir up trouble?? And I may use profanities but I’ve never used any “slurs” so watch what you say.

One or two pictures of her with funny comments as apposed to half dressed self portraits in bed. I’ll stick with my girl.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 12:59 pm

The queen of hypocracy wants to gives lectures of hypocracy what a joke. What are you doing on Vanessa’s instagram anyway leaving hateful comments on how she doesn’t deserve nice comments or any fans.

@tina OMG. I want to stop bringing it up but nude scandal!!! My god, Vanessa has taken pictures much worse than Ashley with pj’s under the covers. Those are just cute! And just wait, Vanessa’s only gotten started on instagram, and it’s already full of self portraits. Believe me, I don’t have an issue with THAT. But I do have a problem with the fact that you guys will take issue with something when Ashley does it, but when Vanessa does the exact same thing you think nothing of it and then try to distinguish the two with petty differences.

@HS Hypocrisy you idiot.

And no, I don’t have instagram, and I wouldn’t leave an celeb any mean comments on something personal like that. I wouldn’t go to her website either. This gossip site is fair grounds and for the last time it’s YOU I hate not her, you dolt. Anyway, Vanessa’s instagram was linked to jj so I know she has one now. And I was just using it to point out that she does the same thing that Ashley does with social media.

I know exactly what I’m commenting about. I was responding to Nightwish’s “gay” comment. Do YOU know what you’re commenting about? I think not.

@HS I beg of you, install a spell check system into your browser. I mean, I enjoy mocking your obvious mental handicap but you make it far too easy.

@A 1)I disagree. They have way much more talent.
2) If this shows that Vanessa uses Ashley then we can say that Ashley also uses Selena and Zac to gain attention. Right?
3)I didn’t fault Tisdale for her friends. Now Vanessa isn’t linked to Zac as much as she was before. And my point was that fb and twitter followers doesn’t mean that you have a career or a lot of fans.
4)Just accept that a lot of people didn’t like the trailer.
5)So,you’re saying that comedy is the easy way to gain money in this industry. Well, congrats to your idol who’s choosing that way.
6)I never said that Tisdale is only known in America. Did I? And i wouldn’t say they love her, she’s just well known.
7) On the pic you posted: I’ll tell you again that I wrote ALL THE TIME! And I think that Tisdale has dozens of those pics. I would post them here but I don’t use Instagram.
8)I’ll tell you again! I’d rather be a ***** than you! Also, if you have such a great life then why are you constantly on Vanessa’s posts through your mobile or whatever??? You’re always present here.
9) I’m a 20 year old university student. Happy?
10) At least I don’t have disillusions. Your idol is not relevant. I never said that Vanessa is perfect or go to every Tisdale post insulting her. Nor do I idolize Vanessa. I just think she is a normal girl who’s doing her own thing despite all the hating she recieves.
11) Nor will your idor ever win an Oscar. Also I never said that Vanessa will win an Oscar. Right?
Well, I’m done talking about Tisdale. She’s irrelevant on this post.

@A Bow my head in shame?? LOOOL! Why??? We’re talking about 2 actresses. Stop making such a big deal! Tisdale is not your friend or relative! Stop being so stuck up on a person you don’t know!

@Deb: and here’s me apologizing. I misread your comment. Sorry.

Apology accepted. Thank you.

@HS LOL struck a nerve there did I? Uhm, I have NEVER used any racial or gay slurs so stop slandering me. And I’m not calling you retarded for disagreeing with me, I’m calling you retarded for spelling words like “elergic” and “hypocracy.” You sound like the first half of Charlie Gordan’s diary LOL.

And here’s another of the same reference. Remember how Charlie says that they’re calling him something other than r*etard now? But how as soon as that word gains any meaning to anyone it will no longer be socially acceptable and they’ll come up with a new one? So there. It’s not a slur anyway, because I’m using it to mock you, not someone with actual disabilities (I think. lol.)

Is this reference above your head though? Have you read that book? Somehow I don’t envision you pouring through classic literature over the years.

@A: I don’t usually waste time talking to a brick wall but what part of hacked don’t you understand? The man is in prison for going into HER PRIVATE files. Whatsherface PRINT THEM HERSELF. If you’re to dense to understand the difference, that’s on you.

@A: So doing comedy makes you A-list and doing bad drama automatically makes you B-list. Where did you get that from? You do realize by your own criteria, that makes Ashley B-list. Her last TV series was bad drama. And unmemorable. Scary Movie is not out yet, but you’re implying she then jumps to A-list because it’s comedy?? You do know how stupid that sounds, right? Neither comedy or drama determines your “list”. But I guess I expect comments like that from someone living in a pink bubble.

I really wish Jared would reinstate that voting system. Having to read @Nightwish’s racist and weird comments is disturbing. I’m here for Vanessa and Selena ONLY not to wade through hundreds of weird and irrelevant comments having nothing to do with the post. That goes for @A too.

@Cece!!: Ok..there is a God! Just kidding. Thanks Jared!!!!!!

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 1:46 pm

The only reason I’m glad the thumbs are back is because they drive the haters crazy. Why they care so much don’t know. Thumb my comment up thumb it down makes no difference to me.

@maria that’s a purposeful misinterpretation of what I just said. Plenty of drama “genre” actresses are A list. But those women are respected for the work they do and most of them also step out to do comedy from time to time, proving their range. But if you do “bad drama” then yes I think that makes you an automatic B list. Because you don’t get the public’s love like that. And no, Ashley’s show doesn’t count, because in the case of television, young girls love that Gossip Girl type crap, and I had a guilty pleasure love for Hellcats. But regardless, I’m just saying I think it will be easier for Ashley to transition, keep her current fans and gain new ones with a comedic route. (Though I look forward to an occasional break up of that, like with Left Behind.) If Vanessa only does these very serious roles, but isn’t praised by critics or the general public for them, well then she’ll easily get the “bad actress” stigma attached to her name. That doesn’t happen to Aniston or Parker you see because they don’t make those sort of pursuits in the first place. And yet there they sit, on the top of the list in Hollywood. THAT was my point.

Ashley post pics of her on social network sites. She’s famewh@oring.

We get pics of Vanessa daily walking down the sidewalk and we use to get lot of pics of her and her bf doing pda. She isn’t famewh@ring.

for the comment number 215. Vanessa isn’t a relative or friend of any of you people either (or is she?) So how about you stop being stuck up on her and how about you guys stop taking things so personally.

Ok, so the thumbs are back. What was different while they were gone? Nothing. Not a blessed thing. So can this obsession that the feature is some kind of conspiracy be done with now?

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 1:50 pm

Ashley’s way is the only way and if you dont do it Ashley’s way you are wrong wrong wrong. Ashleys right and everyone else is wrong.

@A At least I accept other people’s opinion and don’t call them b!tches for having different ideas. Just because I support Vanessa doen’t make me stupid. This may shock you but I got into the university with a good grade. I’d like to see you trying to get into a university here where we have to learn history by heart, we have to learn latin and ancient greek and do critical thinking! And all of these and more just for us to get in! I tried hard to get into that university and I will not have someone as stupid like you to wonder how I got in. Ok? I’m not a genius. i know that. You should know that you’re not a genius too. I really feel sorry for you. You’re just mentally immature.

@A: What teen did in private as apposed to a grown ass woman posting publicly…… you’re right I wouldn’t compare the two.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 1:53 pm

So unless we have something hateful to say we should just shut up. We should let a and nightwish get away with using racial remarks against Vanessa and calling her and her family a bunch of apes and monkeys. No thank you.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 1:55 pm

That was for Katie not Kate.

In popular usage outside the film industry, an “A-list celebrity” simply refers to any person with an admired or desirable social status.[4] In recent times, the term has given rise to any person, regardless of profession, in the limelight. Even socialites with popular press coverage have been termed as “A-list” celebrities. Similarly, less popular persons and current teen idols are referred to as “B-list.”[5] The next ranking on the Ulmer Scale is a “C-list.” An article on Entertainment Weekly describes a C-list celebrity as “that guy (or sometimes that girl), the easy-to-remember but hard-to-name character actor.”[6]

That is from Wikipedia. Doesn’t mention drama or comedy, A. It’s basically about clout. It would be helpful if you don’t judge movies not out yet. Vanessa may have nice success with her upcoming flicks as Ashley may with SM and the Cage flick. Trash talking before the game is just stupid. Let’s see what happens once their movies come out. Success is possible in both comedy AND drama. Bad performances in either aren’t good.

ahh snap they brought back thumbs!! THUMBS

@samsam: but i wonder why he took them away in the first place…

I noticed something weird these few days. Since the day the voting system was removed, Jared was kind of late on updating on Vanessa.
He normally makes a post just the minute new set of pics of her get posted online. And he always post them first on the main site.
But since the day the voting system was removed this site was pretty late on updating about her. And when a new set of pics came up posts were made on the jr site. Not this one.
I was thinking, maybe Vanessa forgot to pay Jared his monthly pimping fee and Jared desided to finally put and end to this fake supporting system that is going on in her threads and removed the voting system.
Then Vanessa who I am sure reads her threads saw this and most likely paid Jared his fee for this month with advance.
So here we have the voting system again.
Those “she’s so beautiful” comments dropped significantly when the voting system was removed. I except it to be higher again now that the fake pimping system is back.

@kate: kate, she got into college on an essay about Ashley Tisdale. No wonder education in the US has fallen to abysmal lows. She believes no one is smarter than her, just because she is a talented writer. She doesn’t realize that writing is not a gift for everyone and that it is not the only measurement of intelligence. My preferences were always math and sciences, and hated the English and history side. Again, apples and oranges, and to each his own. Ms A isn’t mature enough to grasp that concept yet.

@J: The thumbs feature has disappreared before, only to return a few days later. Same thing happened again. Conjuring up some lame conspiracy theory on Vanessa not paying her bills is just laughable. You do know that the thumbs appear on EACH post on all celebs, not just Vanessa’s. The thumbs are irrelevant. Admit it. It never stopped me from reading a comment, hidden or not, and we can only hit the thumbs once. Can this stupid theory just go away now??

You know my opinion on one set of pictures released every time. VANESSA had a project. You won’t change my mind. They were hacked, plain and simple. Self promotion is self promotion. Taking private pictures of yourself and posting them…. speaks for itself. Like I said teen years are the time to make mistakes not when you’re knocking on thirty.

@maria that’s really closed minded. The universities that favor the more creative types WANT essays that stand out on subject matter and break up the monotony. I don’t think that I’m the smartest person out there by any means. I do think that my talent as a writer lends credibility to my intelligence and I do think you ans gather to some extent information about a person’s intellect by how they express themselves. Not everyone’s a “creative” writer, but you should be able to still express yourself coherently and articulately. For the record, your opinions aside, I like the WAY you express yourself here just fine. In other words, you type like an adult and you structure your sentences appropriately.

Also you realize I didn’t just get in based on my essay on Ashley Tisdale? That’s one small aspect that lets the admissions counselors get to know you on a more personal level. I’m guessing the fact that my GPA was above a 4.0 and that my SAT scores were pretty damn good as well had something to do with it.

And don’t you think that the fact that I achieved these admissions with my essay on Ashley might in fact just show my prowess as a gifted writer?

You know what for all they talk about Vanessa they seem to think she’s mighty powerful. Now she controls rather or not this site has a thumbs up/down

@Katie I know that Vanessa isn’t my friend or relative. That’s why I didn’t insult all of these who don’t like her but I was called a *****, stupid and was told to bow my head in shame…. Isn’t that a bit too much??? And all these by a girl who doesn’t know me! That’s what infuriated me. Also I don’t comment on every Vanessa’s post.

@A: It wasn’t closed minded, A. It was the truth, no? The US has fallen abysmally in educational ratings. Another truth. I am well aware an essay is one piece of the admissions process. I am a college graduate from an excellent school. Been there, done that. I don’t think it’s fair to assume people are not intelligent here though. We don’t know them. English may be their second language. That doesn’t indicate they are dumb. BO may even be smart, we just don’t know. I do know for a foreigner, she is vulgar. She certainly has command of the foul language.

The issue of the pictures continually being rehashed by the two of you is getting very old too. They were taken at about the same time and meant to be private. Do you not understand they were not supposed to be seen by you and the world? That they were stolen by a criminal? Why do you need to bring it up repeatedly? You always do that when you have no other recourse. Bring up the photos to shut people up. It doesn’t work and it just makes you look catty. Bringing up someone’s past mistakes constantly is also not classy. Do you do that to your friends and family?

Actually maria, whenever you guys have no other way to get away with the fact that Ashley is indeed more classier and talented than Vanessa, the only recourse you guys can come up with is that she posts pics of herself on twitter and she does self promotion by it. Then why can’t @A bring Vanessa’s scandal up if it helps her to get her point thru. Its not like if she wont bring it up every other person on the planet will forget that Vanessa have naked pics of her cerculating on the net..

I can’t believe he just deleted all my comments like that. Like the one above. NOTHING wrong with it and he took it down. This is discrimination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@maria No to say that me getting accepted into rspected schools with my essay is an example of how the US education system is “abysmal” was rude. And I do think it’s closed minded. Because like I said, the more creative type of schools favor students like me.

I don’t think HS is intelligent. He repeatedly misses the “big picture” of my arguments, look at his last comment for example. I’m positive that I’m smarter than him. Positive. I would damn sure know how to spell the words he can’t, and if I couldn’t, I’d at least google them or use some sort of spellcheck to avoide looking like a jack@ss.

As for the photos you guys LOVE to say that Ashley is a famewh0re, tina especially. She loves to bring up the fact that Ashley tweets photos of herself so of course I am going to have to point out how hypocritical that is when Vanessa had three separate nude scandals. And no tina, they weren’t the same pictures. All stolen at once, but different sets, meaning that was something she was comfortable with doing often.

Come on Maria, even you resort to things like that. I recall you using “Assley” a post or too back.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 3:28 pm

Why do we need to discuss Ashley in a Vanessa post at all. She has nothing to do with Vanessa or this post.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 3:31 pm

You play chess? I got a way to prove who’s smarter

Lol, sorry but by the time you’re like sixteen you should know right from wrong. Well at least the smart ones do. Taking nude picture of yourself, if that got out at my school you would get hollard **** down the corridor for months (this one girl had sex on a golf course she will always be known as ‘hole in one’). When you make your bed, you lie in it. But I don’t know, maybe people just have more morals where I come from…

@Katie: to be honest you can’t always prove if someone is indeed much classier than someone else. i’ll give you real examples, my two of my friends. lets just call them friend A and friend B. friend A dresses quite provocatively on a daily basis, flirts with a bunch of boys then acts like they started it but luckily is crazy clever so she still does well. friend B dresses very appropriately, doesn’t really swear like friend A and doesn’t flirt with boy just gets on with her work and is crazy crazy clever. But how strange that friend B is the one that has had multiple s ex partners at a young age to the point where she may not even know the guy’s name. but friend A is the vulnerable one who is sensitive to s ex and was only with 1 guy. you can never really know until you know that person. maybe ashley is classier than vanessa, maybe not. but how can we judge that when we are just mere strangers to them?

@Katie: l don’t bring up anything about whatsherface. A is the one who brought up the pictures I only answered. I personally could give less than a damn about her. Now explain why you think anyone who is Vanessa’s fan on Vanessa’s post would give a da mn about whatsherface. I NEVER go to her post. The only way I know she posts pictures on instagram is A insists on bringing them here. Before you jump into something, make sure to have the facts.

@E: People make mistakes, you grow you learn. Why have a thing called childhood if you’re expected to know everything as a child. Sorry but at 16 you do things that as an adult you wouldn’t think twice about. There is a reason why in this country that other than murder a crime committed by children under eighteen are tried in juvenile court and sealed .To keep a youthful mistake from ruining your life. If you think it should, I’m sorry for you . What a pious, unforgiving life you live. I hope you never make any mistakes. I know I have, but I’m not perfect.

@tina: Yeah, you make mistakes when you’re young like maybe saying something hurtful to someone or turning up to the wrong exam. I don’t think taking nude picture (wether intended for mass viewing or not) translates into a ‘stupid teenage mistake.’ Don’t feel sorry for me, I’m the one who was raised with self respect. Emily Davidson didn’t throw herself infront of a horse for some stupid lassy to take nude photos of herself. If my bf asked me to take a photo like that, I would dump that boy on his **** quicker than you could say cheese.

@E: don’t you see the times moving on? its sad but nowadays taking nudes is a silly little thing a lot of teens do. plus sexting is most common in our age group.

@tina people make mistakes at ALL ages though. Why is it okay for Vanessa to have done what she did because she was sixteen but if she were 18 and therefore and adult you would condemn her for it? You judge Ashley for a bikini photo but think there was nothing at all wrong with what Vanessa did??? Makes no sense. And I will say I think the SMARTER girls would at least know to cut their faces out. My gosh.

@samsam ever heard the phrase “A lady on the streets, a freak between the sheets?” Her s*ex life is nobody’s personal business if she doesn’t make it so. If she carries herself with sophistication and dresses nicely, then she’s classy. Period. At least that’s how I see it.

@E I’m so sorry!!! You sent me love and I was an ingrate like Scott Speer!!! Hahahahah.

@HS No LOL. I’m 18. I don’t play board games unless there’s vodka involved. But I can spell the words allergic and hypocrisy and you can’t. So I’m smarter.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 4:46 pm

Thanks for proving how ignorant you are. Wow


Lol how old do you think I am?! ‘nowadays’ are the only days I know, well experienced. That’s bull, I’m sorry, I go to secondary school and no one ‘sexts’. Maybe everyone I know has better things to do. In a way it’s sad that she took those pictures, it clearly shows that she had (has?) self esteem issues.

@E: i didn’t say it was every school, but even though you don’t see it happening doesn’t mean its not happening. i didn’t know it was happening in my school until i heard about what a load of girls had posted on facebook to their boyfriends.

Vodka monopoly sounds like a bloody hoot, you’d have liver cancer by the end with the time that game takes. Lol.

I know what you mean, in high school you pay in naivety

@A: you actually just proved my point. it really does have nothing to do with us. but because she dresses a certain way we shouldn’t automatically cast a judgement on her, even though a lot of us do it subconsciously. what i dont get is your quote “a lady on the street but a freak in the sheets” doesn’t that contradict what you are saying? does that mean that viewing ashley as classy means she is very s exually active? im sorry but im confused

@E: yea :) and sometimes its better if we are naive than exposed

@E: Well good for you miss perfect. As a child I was allowed to be a child. So that when I became an adult I was able put aside a childish things. I’m not going to argue with you because you are at the age where you think you know every thing until you become an adult and realize you knew nothing. If you are so unforgiving as a child I would hate to meet you as an adult. Don’t bother with an answer because I’m finished you. I don’t argue with children.
A we aren’t compare a sixteen year old to an eighteen year old we’re comparing a sixteen year old to someone who is nearly thirty.

Like don’t go thinking I’m a total prude. It doesn’t have to be ‘first comes marriage then a baby carriage’. Let’s just get the degree before the carriage, right lads?

@A: God, you have to be one of the most insufferable b itches I’ve had the misfortune to cross paths with. I’ve only been posting here a short time and I’m already sick of you and your posts. First off, the nude photos are old news and Vanessa took responsibility. It didn’t deter her careerwise or harm her relationship with Zac. The only ones stilled pressed and talking about it are idiots like you. Blake Lively and Ashley Green both had nude photos (many think that they themselves were responsible for releasing them for PR) floating around the Internet. Are people still talking about those? Secondly, do you know how much time to spend on here rambling about someone as random as Ashley Tisdale? How is it you have nothing going on except posting rambling posts about a D grade celebrity? How the hell can you have that much time to burn? I seriously doubt you have a boyfriend or friends unless they are sitting by your side as you post all of this nonsense. I feel really sorry for you and I’m not going to give you a pass because of our age. I’m 22, and I feel like I am miles ahead of you in terms of maturity. I’m not here all the time. I have a bf and lots of bff’s. I’m surprised that you are 18, I seriously thought you were 12.

@A: I’m not going to give you a pass because of your age.

@xoxox I completely feel you!

@kate: Well you also have my complete sympathies also for having to deal with responding to her ridiculous postings:)

@xoxox Thanks! That girl is utterly insane! She insults personally if you say something bad abou her idol! I actually feel sorry for Ashley for having such a fan. Hahahahaha

@xoxox you know what I find sad? A girl that has to brag that she has friends and a boyfriend online to make her points seem validated. OF COURSE I have friends and I’m actually coming out of a relationship right now NOT that that’s ANY of your business. And I thought YOU were the twelve year old. You CONSTANTLY try to insert yourself into an argument midway through. You don’t know the history with this group or how I came to be here in the first place. A lot of times when I’m arguing with one of the “regulars” there’s a background there that you don’t know anything about so don’t try to jump in like you do.

There IS a reason why I’m here talking about Ashley but that goes back to you sticking your nose where you don’t belong. And D grade celeb? As if. She’s got millions of fans, TWICE as many as Vanessa, so what would that make Hudgens then? Z list??? Please.

And you don’t know if you’re “miles ahead of me in maturity” at twenty two. Of course, I expect to be more mature four years from now but I’m still an adult and if you ever met me in public you’d know that I carry myself like one and am regarded and treated as one.

I’M sick of YOU butting in. If you think I’m so insufferable NEVER reply to me on here again. EVER. Got that??

@tina E’s not a child she’s a teenager.


I never compared vanessa to ashley, that’s like comparing a normal dog to a pedigree, it’s unfair. Im comapring a **** with a normal teenage giirl. (Something you wouldnt know since you have to stand outside the bank all day to get your pension) I’m not perfct just because I wouldn’t take nude photos of myself, that’s pathetic. A child?! Don’t you dare try to patronise me! I could hold my own in any argument with any ‘adult’.

You have some messed up morals. I’m going to ask you some questions and you have to answer them so I get a feel to how crazy you are. Ill start with an easy one:
Child sex trafficking. Right or wrong?

@e comparing a regular dog to a pedigree lol. So true.

BTW tina’s calling you miss perfect now lol. They use that patronizingly about me or about Ashley. I guess they really have an issue with girl’s with standards lol.

@A tbh I’m sort of flattered, I just wish she could tell my mum that I’m miss perfect!

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 6:17 pm

A is here because I refuse to bend down and kiss Ashley’s ring like she does and I don’t worship the ground Ashley walks on and i like Vanessa and I don’t like Ashley. Until I do all those things and A convinces every single Vanessa fan that liking her is wrong and liking Ashley is the only person you should like she won’t leave. Personally I’ll stick my hand in boiled water before I now to the ” almighty” Ashley.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 6:18 pm

*bow* not now.

Sorry E I don’t play with children. I don’t think you’re perfect or pure A you slept with twenty somethings at 17 so, I feel you’re closer to your idol. Was it three or four men she slept with last year? Real classy.

@HS ill stick my arms in a raging flame before I bow down to the ‘almighty god.’

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 6:23 pm

That’s your decision. I’m not trying to force anything on you the way A is to every Vanessa fan there is.

@tina that sh*t is real cold, just because people want to have s ex with @A and ashley. You are clearly jel beyond the realms of well. And I’m only a child by law b*tch.

@tina UHM I NEVER said I was having sex with twenty something year olds at 17. Somebody (maybe it was you I don’t remember) said something about Ashley being too old for Vanessa for three years and pointed out that you wouldn’t date someone that age when you were a teenager and all I said was well I DID. I’ve only slept with one person thank you, and I’ll even admit that was a mistake.

You won’t “play with children” but you’ll talk down to them? You don’t know anything about e. She’s a teenager. I’m a teenager. We hold conversations just fine. I’ve heard far more intelligent things come out of HER mouth than I ever have yours at age sixty or whatever you are. Senior citizen status.

@HS you’ve said some of the most horrible things I’ve ever heard anyone say when it comes to Ashley. And yes when people insult her I DO take her personally. She’s like the big sister I’ve never met.

Pictures make you bad but sleeping around with every and any body makes you good? Good to know, I always thought it made you a who re, silly me. Again I don’t play with foul mouthed children.

@tina how the hell do you know who Ashley’s slept with????????????????????????? That’s right you DON’T because she doesn’t photograph or tape it!

So it’s NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Just because Ashley has dated a few different people over the years. That’s no big deal.

You obviously don’t know what it’s like to be an attractive, desired female because you sound so unbelievably jealous. I bet you’re one of those girls that starts calling your friends s!uts when guys start hitting on them at the mall and not you.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 6:40 pm

And you and your buddies bo the psycho and nutwish have said the cruelest and nastiest things I’ve ever heard about Vanessa. Difference is I don’t do it everyday like you guys do, I honestly don’t enjoy it like you guys do, and I don’t go hate on Ashley on only her posts like you guys do.


Yeah, again, not really a child. I take a Latin college course (something only offered to the top thirty pupils at my school) there are full grown adults who couldn’t deal with that.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/15/2013 at 6:42 pm

@xoxox: The reason that the nudes didn’t affect her career is because those horrible friends of hers stood up to Disney on her behalf. They were going to fire her!

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 6:47 pm

@merlins mum
Great now the mother (or the great grandmother) of all Vanessa haters wants to chime in. This coming from the person who basically leads the way for people to hate on Vanessa.


A twenty year old and a seventeen year old can’t date?! And people who have three years apart can’t be friends? By your rule of thumb me and my older sister and me and @A, can’t be friends then.

@merlin’s mum yep. If Vanessa’s career didn’t take a fall then how come for HSM3 Zac got paid 4 mil, Ashley got 3 mil, and Vanessa only got 2 mil. Because Vanessa had to concede to that to sign on. She got paid the least out of the three big stars, even though she was supposed to be the main character and Ash was technically “supporting.”

@e yep, they act like there’s something wrong with Ashley for being friends with Vanessa and Selena because they’re a few years younger. Uhm, whatever, they’re all young girls in their twenties. And Ash can give them advice on the things she’s experienced that they haven’t! But whatev.

@e yeah never mind that Vanessa’s best friend is her sister who’s like nearly ten years younger than her.

@A tbh I can talk to you about more mature things than I can with most of my friends my own age, that’s defiantly an important aspect to a friendship.

@Tina, so is it weird that I talk to my cousin whose three years younger than me?

@A: What’s really sad is I went to Starbucks, grabbed coffee with a friend, came back to see that you are still on here rambling on with your ridiculous bullsh it. Oh and sorry, having a bunch of Facebook friends means nothing in terms of a celebrity’s popularity and it sure says nothing about how talented or good looking they are. So if that is all you have to justify why Ashley is better and more popular than Vanessa or anyone else, then your case is weak. Leo DiCaprio has half the followers as Ashley Tisdale but does that mean he’s less popular? Of course not. He’s an A-lister and she’s hovering somewhere between D and E list. So in short, If I want to come here and make comments I will. If I choose to call out how childish you are I will. If I think your posts are pointless and want to say so I will. Got that? Good.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 7:02 pm

Her Facebook theory is absurd. I have 250 friends on Facebook. Do I actually keep in touch with all those people ? No. Some I friended because i had a class with them or they were part of a team I was on. Of those 250 I regularly talk to half that..and that might be too much.

@Merlin’s Mum: How would you know she was going to be fired? And if true, the only person who would have had any clout was Zac anyway. So if hypothetically this was true..then you are saying Zac is horrible? Correct me if I am wrong but you are a fan of Zac???

@xoxox no what’s sad is that you’re here on the internet telling me about your friend. I have them but I won’t be sharing. And I haven’t done much of anything today to be honest, but does that mean most days I don’t? Nope. It just so happens I’m off today, it’s raining, and I just started my time of the month (Is THAT enough personal information for you). So I’m at home watching movies.

Ashley still is, always has been, and always will be better than Vanessa. Period. Got it? Good. (See how annoying that is?)

@Haters Suck!: I know, her Facebook justification is totally absurd. It’s weak that she would even use that as a reason why Ashley’s popularity rules. She is also so obnoxious to you.

Let me break this down for you guys. Ashley and Vanessa have facebook. They were in the exact same film franchise where inarguably the LARGEST portion of their fame was gained (obviously they each have their other respective projects.) Anyway, that would put the majority of their fans potentially in the same group, making them equally likely to have a facebook. Maybe not all of Ashley’s facebook fans care about her, but equally so not all of Vanessa’s fans would care about her. SO if Ashley has TWELVE million fans on facebook and Vanessa has SIX million, I think that’s a pretty darn accurate picture of where they stand, fanbase wise. Ashley’s is bigger.

You said it. More than once . That’s when I said I was old enough not to let my 17 year old date a twenty something. You said all your friends and bfs were twenty something. Now you’re going lie and say you didn’t? As for whathername that would be that martin guy, scott, this new one and according to you Zac.
I’m not sixty or even close but I really don’t give a da mn what age you think I am. I’m old enough that I use my age as a defense like you do when someone calls you on your bs. You’re just a lying hypocrit.

@A: No, that isn’t my point (that I have friends)…my point is, I went out, came back to see you are still here..rambling away. I won’t address your comment about Ashley vs. Vanessa. Surely, you don’t even believe that.:)

@tina Nope. Didn’t say that. Said all guys I had dated had been in their twenties (early twenties fyi.) That’s true. Not a big deal about that. Vanessa’s four years OLDER than Austin is that better. I have friends my own age.

And E is younger than me, and we get along just fine. I think it’s beneficial to have friends younger, your age, and older. You get something different out of each one.

You’ve stated that you’re old and that twenty is a child to you. You’ve said that.

You’re the one spreading lies. I say I’ve DATED people and you turn that into SLEEPING. And you do the same thing with Ashley. That’s slanderous BS. How ridiculous. You’re one of those girls no female wants to have for a friend. Ready to brand anyone with that ***** label and stick a knife in her back.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 7:20 pm

Journey 2 the mysterious island has 357,977 Facebook likes. Times that by 10 for ticket price= 3,579,110 the movie made off people who like it on Facebook. But the movie made over 300 million dollars. Where’d all that money come from since it only has 357,997 likes on Facebook?


If you were my mum I would get such a minter…. Don’t you have like a job to go to? I mean I’m a ‘child’ and I have a job.

I don’t give a sh it about fb. I DON’T EVEN HAVE A FB ACCOUNT. Whatsherface has been on fb since HSM telling every move she makes. Vanessa only got an account because of her contract with Candies last year. So no I wouldn’t care if whatsherface had 50 million fb fans. Are you sure you aren’t 12?

Repeat I don’t play with children.

@HS because dumb butt that movie was a KIDS movie. Meaning when the kid wants to go, both parents buy tickets too and maybe the older siblings come along. Now who’s actually going to be a fan of that movie?? Mostly just the kids not the other four tickets that we’re bought.

Anyway, grander scheme: Yes, that may be true. Meaning Vanessa has more fans than just those on facebook. True. That means Ashley ALSO has more fans than just those on facebook. But think of facebook fans as a survey of a grander population. It’s a statistic. Ashley has MORE fans than Vanessa. That’s the bigger picture.

@xoxox Ashley is infinitely better than Vanessa and yes, I as well as millions of others really think that. You won’t change my mind so just shut up.

@A: I mean, let’s get real for a minute. Ashley is more popular than Vanessa because she has more Facebook friends? Ashley is more talented than Vanessa? So what tv/movie roles has Ashley had that makes her appear more talented? Ashley is more beautiful? So does Ashley have endorsement deal? Vanessa has a long standing deal with Neutrogena.

@tina Lol you don’t “play” with children. LOL. E’s NOT A CHILD!

You call BO “little one” and you still talk to her lol.

I dont have Facebook and I love ashley so…

Stop calling me a child, you don’t know me! Just like you don’t know @A and how funny, intelligent and pretty she is (inside and out) so.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 7:31 pm

I don’t think of Facebook as anything more than what it is. Just a social network site not a way to track fans

@xoxox Ashley has a lot of upcoming work coming out and has had several endorsement deals throughout the span of her career. If you knew anything about her you’d know that. I’m done talking to you. You’re not worth the dirt on the ground I step on. Bye.

“I guess they really have and issue with girls with standards” nailed it lolol

the issue is that Vanessa doesn’t have any. And whenever someone who has them is being discussed around here that is going to start a riot obviously lolol

@e you’re so sweet!! Lots of love gorg!!! xoxo.

@A well your damn welcome babe, its the truth and I stick up for my friends that may make me childish but that’s my moral code.

Sorry but if you think those guys are spending the night with her and going away for weekends with her to play board games you must be six. Austin is 21, Vanessa 24. I’m sure you can subtract better than that. No one in that equation is underaged. It’s not slander when it’s the truth.

@tina my bad. I thought Austin was 21. The point is, you take issue with Ashley being friends with Vanessa when she’s three years older but no issue with Vanessa being three years older than the boy she dates?? Uhm, okay.. So WHAT if Ashley sleeps with her boyfriends? She damn well should she’s an ADULT woman. But she doesn’t put it in anybody’s face. And she hasn’t had that many partners through the years. She has serious boyfriends. That’s not a s!ut.

So you’re against full age adults having sex but you’re fine with underaged girls making child p0rn. That’s effed up tina. I’m being very serious.

Now you have a little friend, good for you. I’ll stick with the girl who has had one man this year and attends Church with him. You can have you high class who re.

@e hey Austin’s birthday is a day away from yours and two days away from mine!! Hahah. See, you wouldn’t even want to date him. He’s probably got an ego just like us LOL.

Btw what are the new projects Vanessa has lined up? I am not talking about the films that are yet to get released. I am talking about the projects she has yet to film. She haven’t done anything for months now or has she?

@A: So what endorsement deals does Ashley have in the works? What movies does she have coming out besides Scary Movie the sequel part 99? What magazine covers has Ashley done lately? I personally think that M and E are really you.

<> The feeling is mutual. You’re leaving? See ya, sure as hell wouldn’t want to be ya.

A person is a person no matter how young they are, every person has the right to have their opinions acknowledge and discussed. Refusing to talk to me because I’m a certain age is full blown agism (which is just as bad as sexism, homophobia and racism)

@tina LOL Oh they attend church together then they MUST be good people. FYI, being a “church goer” signifies nothing to me. Especially since I’m not a creationist myself.

I can’t even begin to understand your hypocrisies. Ashley tried to make her relationship with Scott to work and it didn’t. What’s she supposed to do, stay at home and not date until it’s been a year so tina doesn’t say anything about her on the internet? FYI she was with both Jared and then Scott both for a couple of years exclusively. You think when “Vaustin” breaks up Vanessa will just go be a nun? Nope she’ll date someone else, and yes she’ll sleep with him too.

And obviously from those pictures she got started with her sex life at a young age so I’m guessing her number is much larger than Ashley’s LOL.

Yeah a girl has three separate nude scandals. And you say it’s nothing, leave her alone, her reputation deserves no dent from that, it doesn’t make her a *****.

BUT a woman dates a few different guys over an extended period of time, nothing about her sex life is ever known or displayed, and she’s a total s!ut to you. THAT’S your logic tina. And it is BEYOND flawed.

Quite clearly I’m British and A is American, the way we talk is completely different.

@A: Why do the insane fans of Ashley visit this post?.. Here is a post for Vanessa!@A you’re so incorrigible.

@tina: Please. I think E and M are really A. She obviously has stooped so low that she is posting under various user names to have allies. Gurlfriend is just talking to herself.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 7:56 pm

I was about to post that. Was thinking the same

Just because you would do that doesn’t mean others would

@A well technically you’re right. If we go by Kantian ethics it’s says that a good deed can only be a good deed when you do it for no reward. Christians do good deeds to get the reward of going to hevan. So technically everything they do is extremely selfish and there is no true goodness in it.

@xoxoxo@Hatere Suck!: I think that one person just change the nickname to talk !!!

@A: <<>>

1. it’s mutual, so at least we are on the same page about something.
2. You started posting on this thread last night and you are still here almost 24 hours later. So sad.
3. Your arguments and insults are always the same, Persistent Yes. Persuasive? Hell no.
4. As I said on a previous need to sit the actual fr#ck down.

@e True. Although I took a sociology class where we learned that there’s no evidence that altruism truly exists among human beings at all. But that’s debatable.

And Christians are “evangelistic.” They call it their Christian duty but what it really means is, “anyone who doesn’t believe exactly what I believe must have my beliefs shoved down their throat and if they don’t convert my lord is going to burn them in a pit of fire for all eternity.”

No guys, e and I are not the same person. She’s in Scotland, I’m in the US. We’re fanfiction friends and fellow Tisdale lovers. We’re also alike in a whole bunch of other ways so we talk all the time.

I am not either of them. If you guys think we are changing names then @tina @xoxox @kate all these people might as well be the same person.

@Hater’s suck@Esther. Right on.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 8:08 pm

anyone who doesn’t believe exactly what I believe must have my beliefs shoved down their throat and if they don’t convert my lord is going to burn them in a pit of fire for all eternity.”
If someone asked me ^^ this is exactly how I’d describe you.

@A now all I can think about is the friends ep where Joey tries to prove to phoebe there no such thing as a selfless good deed haha

@A: Please just put a sock in it. Would love to stay and chat but I have things to do. @m I can assure you that I am not Kate or Tina although I strongly support what they are saying and know exactly where they are coming from.

A young girl who made a mistake next to a grown ass women who sleeps around. I made my choice.
I don’t blame the victim of a hacking but I blame a grown woman who is just a little, too free with her body. Again it’s none of your business what I call bo and she is 20.
The reasons I don’t like her as a friend is not because she’s older but because she’s a user. If someone would have taken her picture by herself with her man, I doubt she would have come near Vanessa on the carpet. Plain and simple, she saw the three of them (Vanessa, Selena, and Sarah) were being photographed and became their best friend. Earlier it was just the three of them. She’s an opportunist.

@e omg hahaha that one’s one of my favorites! “The one where phoebe hates PBS.” I have even have it on my ipod! I love when he tells her there’s no such thing as Santa Clause and her eyes get really big.

And then when she donates the money and he’s like, “Don’t you feel even a little good?’

“No I was saving up to buy a hamster.”

“Pheebs you know those things are like ten bucks.”

“Ah, not the one I had my eye on.”



I could quote pie to a thousand places and you would still be convinced I was a stupid child


Haha I was literally just about to say the hamster thing lol

@Haters Suck!: You’re right that’s exactly how she is. Lol.

@tina You don’t know what Ashley does. She doesn’t sleep around. She has serious relationships. That’s so ridiculous. Get off you’re f*ucking high horse. What a self righteous, judgmental, miserable b!tch you must be. If Vanessa was photographing her naked body again and again I’d say she’s pretty damn free with it. Dumb @ss.

And it doesn’t matter if she DOES sleep around because she never puts that in anyone’s face! Unlike Hudge Pudge.

Selena and Sarah are better friends with Ashley than Vanessa. Even look at the photos how Sarah’s reaching around Selena to grip Ashley’s arm. Ash and Sarah were in Vegas together a couple months ago. Vanessa was NOT there. Ashley is besties with all those girls, of course they’re going to be together. And afterwards there were candids caught of ALL four at a restaurant together. If Ashley were really just an opportunist she wouldn’t be hanging out with them afterwards.

Ashley photographed all by herself at the Golden Globes. There are a ton of them.

Vanessa needed Sel just to be there in the first place. LOL.

@e hahahah we’re so alike. There’s a friends episode for every situation you encounter in life hahah.

Ahah! A has recruited another Tisdale fan to troll Vanessa’s threads. How pathetic and desperate you Tisdale Fans are.

Your ignoring me is fine. In twenty years when you’re an OAP in a care home people will ignore you the same way you’re ignoring me, based completely on your age.

@e, all said and done. Personally most of us here do not have any issue with Tisdale but Ms. Perfect A here makes it her mission to suffocate us with her idol, spamming and pimping her every opportunity she gets to the point of overkill. Hence, we as Vanessa fans feel compelled to respond in the negative. You don’t get us doing any such thing on Tisdale’s threads now do you?

@Bohji well I was here to defend Ashley, tbh I don’t have anything against Vanessa. But it’s gotten so much more personal than celebrities now.

Vanessa has attended the Golden Globes parties every year since the first time with Zac. Whatsherface not so much. Check it out if you don’t believe me, every year. What do you expect them to do when she comes up to them on the carpet? Turn their heads? They are not the bad friends, she is.

@Bohji yes, we do find many of you doing the same thing on Tisdale threads. The difference is we don’t take the bait as fans. Our posts would never go on for hundreds of comments like this lol.

@e 319! nice!! So true hahahahah.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 8:38 pm

Tisdale wouldn’t need defending on a Vanessa post if her fans didn’t bring her up in everything Vanessa does that has nothing to do with her.

@A aw they called you miss perfect again, to me that’s a term of endearment haha

@HS BS. You bring her up. If no one else is talking about her you’ll bring her up. If you don’t tina will.

@tina you’re so hateful. She’s not a bad friend. She’s a great friend. Otherwise why would the Vanessa who’s opinion you value so highly still be besties with her 9 years later??

@e hahah to me too. It’s obvious we just have different values than they do. That’s why tina is a okay with child p0rn but a full grown woman having relations with her boyfriend is wrong.

If that’s what sets Tisdale fans apart from the Hudgens lovers, I’m glad to be the first and not the latter lol.

A is here because no one wants her on Ashley’ s post. She’s happy when we speak to her even if it’s to put Ashley down. I’m through with her and her imaginary friend. Must be sad to only have friends online. On that note think I’ll call my bestie and invite her to lunch.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 8:49 pm

You are completely full of crap. The only reason I ever talk about tisdale is because how hateful you are and u being her up in every post.

@A join the cub bro, join the club…

@tina none of that’s true. Maybe before you go call your bestie and invite her to lunch hope you can try to do something to remove that needle stuck up your @ss.

I have plenty of friends but I certainly don’t need to advertise them online. And @e is my online friend. Just like you and haters suck or whatever. Same thing. But I’m glad you think you’re so much better than me. Next time you think that you should look in the mirror at your aging wrinkled face and sagging body and remind yourself that A is young and perky and looking gorgeous. ;)


You should also remember that I could theoretically live for ever (or at least much longer than we live now) based on the progress medicine has made, I’m just in the age bracket where when I’m old, almost every disease will be defeated. That’ll help you sleep easy :)

@A, this girl sounds like a nut case.
It would be better to ignore what she’s saying.

@e hmm live forever? then we’d have a whole eternity to make Ashley our best friend and live on every continent. Hahahah.

@sky are you calling me the nutcase?

@A they say forever, but I think they are just trying to up themselves. But it would certainly much longer than the bog standard 80 there is just now haha. Us in like Africa, Jesus lol. I think going to namibia once will be fine for me hahaha

@A I’ve just missed out the word ‘be’ in a sentence, that’s when I go to bed. Lol, speak soon though haha.

@e okay I don’t know if we should live in the poorer countries lol. We should VISIT every continent and then stick to North America, Europe, and Australia for living lol.

True, they say that the first person to live to two hundred years has already been born!

@e night night! It’s late there! Hope you still do well on your exams hahah.

Awww, how cute. e is here to support A. Are b,c,d,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y, and z coming too? Personally, all this bickering is so sickening. It was NEVER like this until those Stooges came along. I have no problem with people who don’t like Vanessa or find her beautiful. That’s because it’s unrealistic to expect everyone to feel the same way. I also have no problem with those who like Ashley. But when they insist on coming here to profess she is the world’s most perfect creature, etc, I just have to laugh. She could be the world’s biggest b* tch, for all they know. You can’t judge a book by it’s cover. And for the record, I’ll take a real girl who’s made mistakes. More lessons are learned through your mistakes.

@maria A is my initial. E is hers. She saw me using A here and followed in suit.

What about tina’s comments about Ashley being a ***** because she has sex with her boyfriends??? Certainly you don’t agree with that.

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 9:31 pm

Hatersuck, so, i dont suppose you would do the honorable thing and fess up that you are also that degenerate as*shole ‘fan here’, would you?

@nightwish dude you got to read tina’s faulty logic over the past few pages! It’s mind blowing!

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 9:36 pm

@A: Will catch up. Hey, i think Jared removed votes because it was golden globes time, well thats one theory

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 9:37 pm

Welcome e! These guys could use some e ; )

I have no idea? Maintenance on the site maybe? But tina thinks that there’s something morally wrong with a full grown woman having sex with her boyfriend but if perfectly okay with a teenage girl creating child p0rn.

@A: Having s*x is a normal, healthy part of a loving relationship, and Ashley is an adult. She can certainly decide on her own who is worthy of having her. I won’t venture to guess if she is intimate with all her BF’s, but she does seem to get very close, very quickly to her men. One day she is single and getting her hair done, and bam! The next day she is clutching a new guy we’ve never seen before. She doesn’t waste any time. But again, it’s her life. As far as taking pics of oneself as a teen, that is pretty normal s*xual curiosity. Not p*rn. The criminal who stole it made it so. It’s not unclassy to have a healthy view of s*x. I don’t know why you have to make it so dirty. And as far as Sarah, I believe Vanessa to be just as close to her. They are often together, and Vanessa remained close to her and Matt Prokop after HSM ended. They also spend time with Vanessa and Austin as a couple, just having spent time in Disney Land and New Year’s Eve together. Just sayin’.

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 9:46 pm

@A: The most perplexing fact about the vocal hudgens fans on JJ? Older women. Highly defensive and committed older women. I dont get it. i think its reasonable to assume that the males who support her here are also older. iow, old men. Dirty old men. Hatersuck, fan here, are you guys dirty old men? And I AM THE SICK F*UCK?

@maria well thank God you said so.

I still think that Vanessa’s actions shouldn’t be encouraged in any way. You saw how it negatively affected her. That could hurt any girl who did it and had her photos exposed and ruin her reputation and even career opportunities for her down the road.

Idk but I thought it was really cute how Sarah was reaching behind Selena to clutch on to Ashley like a security blanket. Ash and Sarah did that swimsuit line endorsement together!

ah ! what a wonderful vision .all the haters and pumpers are out after a long time! i think if i don’t add something here , the vision

wouldn’t be complete .

I’d like to say that both Ashley and hudge are much on the same boat careerwise , with Ashley a little bit ahead of hudge in the

career path she chose to do and $1m surplus of networth than hudge.Ashley chose a career in production and hudge chose in acting

after HSM .So it’s ridiculous to blame Ashley for not having done enough films as hudge .Up until now she was nose burried in

productin .Now she’s shaking the ash off and trying to pursue an acting career too .Hudge has acted in film after film with all of

them becoming huge flops at box office until J2 .Needless to say , we can’t give full credit to her for it becoming a bo success .she

could have been the only female , but she was still some subordinate role and people .it was Rock’s film .you have to give the credit

to him for that $300m and also Josh since people were already aware that he had starred in much hyped HG .

the only person who’s managed to get his roots down and deep in HW and has still managed to stay the big hearthrob he is is Zac

.People who used to follow him follow him still .Needless to say that he’s expanded his fan base to adult generation with his recent

ventures .His teenage fan base too is quite strong as it used to be since he still gets multiple nods and wins multiple awrds at TCAs

.He’s been very focused on his career since the HSM days and was longsighted .He didn’t feast on his success due to HSM .instead

he started building his career since when he was still popular and thus starred in other films and took them to be box office success

.most of the sucess of those films had to with his appeal due to HSM .that was what hudge also had to do .to pursue a career and do

other films while she was stilll a big star instead of feasting . today , Zac is referred to as an A lister by the gossip sites except jared .in the last couple of months i haven’t almost seen a single post where he isn’t called an A lister . i see that since the relaese of TLO ,lorax and Paperboy , general consideration of him within the industry has changed drastically needless to say ! he has a bright future

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 9:49 pm

@maria: Stop putting all of the blame on the hacker. One mistake with pudgie, for example forgetting her phone at burger king, the nail salon, yoga, etc and those pics would have hit cyberspace lickety split. It was colossally stupid of her to take those nude pics at all, and stop using her age as an excuse. She was old enough to know it was wrong and in bad taste.

Awww running to her man for help. Who re definition a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse. Someone who goes from one man to the other sleeping with them all…..well. Like I’ve said before if a drunk man feels you up, he’s not in love with you, anybody would do; if you let him you’re the one with problems.

@ A

MY GOD A!!!!!Can you just leave!WE GET IT….WE GET IT……WE GET IT… NEVER LIKED VANESSA……and NONE of us Vanessa supporters will try to change that!Ashley is ALL YOURS!!!!


Weren’t you introduced to the word R-E-S-P-E-C-T by anybody (by your teachers or any guardian)?

Respect begets respect girl!If you want people to like or just to not say nasty things about your idol, you should do the same.

GOLDEN RULE : ” Do not do unto others what you do not want others to do unto you”.

I am seeing you as a WAR-FREAK person cause you just dont’t want to stop.This is just about Vanessa but as if you would want to kill people with your words.What more when it comes to your personal life???

You really are looking for war,arguments,violent reactions and so forth because you looooove coming here armed with nastiness and negativity? Are you a *********?… seem to enjoy getting blows,punches and ridicules in words.Your personality is intriguing me girl!

@nightwish I know right?? Oh don’t worry, as a young female I find HS much more creepy. LOL. But I don’t get the old age thing. Dirty old men, yes. And the women? Perhaps living out the life they wish they had led through Vanessa vicariously? Perhaps viewing her as the daughter they wish they had had? I dunno.

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 9:54 pm

Hatersuck, you are being very quiet about my feeling that you are also ‘fan here’. Nothing to say?

Seriously, boys and girls. Don’t you have someplace else to go and share your views? Why is it necessary to come to Vanessa’s posts? There has got to be a better place…… I know! How about Facebook? You’d have 12 million other “friends” there.

Nightwish @ 01/15/2013 at 9:59 pm

@A: It can’t just be that. Friends of Van’s mom maybe? There has to be a rational explanation, something that makes you say “ahhhh, that’s why!”. But we’ll never find out.

@tina You know how Maria said she saw Vanessa getting “bullied” for her promiscuous past and supported her because of that?

YOU are those “bullies.” You can forgive Vanessa’s mistake because you live through her but you’re going to brand a scarlett letter on any other girl who sleeps with HER BOYFRIEND????!!!

That’s ridiculous. The things you’re saying are the kind of things that can destroy the self esteem of a young girl who perhaps made a mistake and had sex with a guy who doesn’t love her. It happens.

But you should know that sex is a key element of any long term relationship. If you don’t believe in it until marriage, then that’s fine, but you should understand that not everyone has that belief and respect that. Sex is IMPORTANT in a romantic relationship and if you don’t think so, I feel sorry for your past boyfriends or husband or whatever you have.

She made the decision to take private pictures not to have them posted on the internet. The hacker did that. Just as whatsherface made the decision to sleep her way through Hollywood and tweet about it.

@malu: High blood ka na

@A@BO@Nightwish: What a pity your lives are.

@tina Well Ashley never took any pictures OR broadcast her love life. She does NOT sleep her way through Hollywood and certainly doesn’t tweet about anything like that. She was with Scott for two years. Broke up. Was with Martin. Got back with Scott. Broke up. Got with Christopher. That’s it. Long term relationships. The girl’s had four boyfriends in the past seven years and you’re calling her a *****. That’s laughable.

don’t get upset guilty.the only thing hudge has above ashley is her having relationships with guys longer than ashley does .so they keep on boasting bout it till our ears ring

@A: Having s*x with a guy who doesn’t love you is also an example of curiosity and naivete as a teen, just as taking pics. Both are stupid, but common mistakes TEENS make. Fortunately, these mistakes do not define us as adults, and certainly doesn’t define Vanessa now, at 24. Give her a freakin’ break. And no, I am not a friend of her mother.

so the only big role Autin has doneso far wasn’t received well . carrie diaries didn’t live up to hype and premierd to low ratings ,i wonder whether ayn of the pumpers here who’s so dead gone on vaustin watched it even


I knew it!!!! Intric8 and YOU are the same!!!! I have been suspecting that for a long time but I therefore conclude you come here with different username.You are the one GUILTY of your ACUUSATIONS!!!!

I don’t see how she’s promiscuous.One bf for five years. Another for over a year. I don’t see her grabbing on to other girls bfs or hanging on to other men in front of her bf. Nothing you can say will ever make me care about her. I used to think she was a good friend thank you for clarifying that for me. Now I see her for a sleazy person who cheats with no care for anything but her pleasure.

@maria I can agree to that. I really don’t have any objections with what you’re saying. Tina’s message on the other hand, well I have major issues with it.

@malu Hun, everyone knows nightwish is intric8. He just changed his user name, like BoHji adding her h. We all knew the whole time.

@tina either you think she had something with Zac or you don’t. My opinion can’t change that. And if you think she didn’t then there’s no possibility of her being a cheater so…

@malu: You havent been here a while. I switched usernames malu, everyone knows it.

@malu you asked me if I was a what? It got starred out but it doesn’t look like a profanity lol.

malu , did you gt up from the wrong side of the bed ? of course , nightwish is intric . he changed his name ’cause he could no longer come under his own name . EVERYONE here knows it .you just fall down on to site from the sky and start balbbering nonsense

Are you going back on what you said now? You have said it over and over. Now you’re trying to put it on me? I don’t believe they slept together but I do believe she would have let him if he wanted to. Which makes her a sleaze. I didn’t care one way or the other about Ashley, you have finally succeeded in making me dislike her.

@tina LOL you always disliked her from the start. And of course he would want to, look at her, she’s gorgeous.

Vanessa would send naked pictures of herself to guys if they asked. Same principle.

@ A

hey……are you his spokeswoman?why are you the one answering my concern about him.Why you care about my conclusion??I was replying to him and not to you.Please see comment #351.

So, I see……they’re just one and the same!OK……fine… I know.I thought there is another one out there who is out to DESTROY and ELIMINATE a beautiful creature here on earth named Vanessa.

FYI, I actually do not read anyhting from nightwish,A and Bo so that is why I never knew they’re the same.I take cue from the replies of van’s supporters.I would instantly get it if TROLLS are everywhere from reading the supporters’ posts.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 10:39 pm

Sorry went to go get something to eat. Didn’t realize I needed your permission to do that. What was the question again?

WOW…..this is funny…..A and BO were the ones with violent reactions while the one involved gave me a straight and civil answer.Just so funny!!!

From your replies to my being innocent, I can now make a claim of who is the Most foul-mouthed and breedingless person in this blog!

Hello little one. I’ll admit I didn’t watch Austin show last night. The put it on the same time as Bones, so unless they change it I will never watch it. Regardless, they are still filming it and Vanessa’s back in N.Y. with Austin From what I seen he’s good in it the girl not so much. Last night they showed the same episode twice back to back. I have no idea why they would do that.

@ BO

I believe I came here about a couple of years ahead of you.Care to do some backreading.

@malu how was my reaction “violent.” I didn’t see anything rude or nasty in what I said. Beyond referring to you as “hun,” which while it may be condescending is really just a southern thing I can’t help. I use the word affectionately too, so..

@nightwish did you read through the past pages? I really want to know what you have to say about tina’s thoughts about what qualifies as a “wh*0re.”

@tina it’s called a dvr lol.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 11:02 pm

We get it you think Vanessa’s a ho and Ashley’s as pure as the driven snow. We got it bout the first 1000 times you said it. Stop trying to shove it down our throats.

@A: She has no proof that Ashley slept around, and Ashley has a right to find her soulmate. One of Tina’s qualifiers for the definition of ‘*****’ is someone who engages in premarital sex. Oops, isn’t vanessa and austin going to town in the sack? She takes nude pics of herself at during puberty and Tina would lead us to believe that pudgie and austin are merely playing cards before they go to sleep? Tina’s idol is most definitely sexing up a storm, and she is not married so i dont understand why tina would say that.

I don’t spend a lot of time watching TV. Most shows bore me. Sorry. I use the time to read or spend it with family and friends.

@Haters Suck!: You are fan here arent you, you little snake

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 11:10 pm

No. Just cause you constantly change names to leave hateful comments toward Vanessa doesn’t mean everyone does. Go work on your next conspiracy.

@tina: Ashley and Vanessa have very different personalities. Vanessa is needy and clingy and more inclined to find a guy and latch on. Ashley is more inclined to take her time to find the right guy without forcing him to conform to her. My opinion is Pudgie will put the onus on her significant other to conform to her, ie, pound a square peg into a round hole so to speak, while ashley is more patient and looks for the correct combination. Why does that make Ash a “wh*ore”?

hello old one . aren’t you disspointed that Carie Diaries didn’t do as well as expected and opened to poor ratings ?

malu , did i ever say i came here beofre you did . i know you were here before me .what i meant was you dissapear for weeks and then again drop down from the sky totally cluless and start balbbing .thank you

@malu: Put us on ignore again please, thank you

@Nightwish: Where did I say anything about premarital sex? I said four guys (that we know of) sleeping over in one year. We wouldn’t know (Lord knows I don’t care) if Ashley didn’t tweet about it and A didn’t bring it here. She can continue to sleep her way through all the rockers in Hollywood for all I care.
Say what you want Vanessa’s a one man type of girl.

@nightwish thank you! I agree with everything you just said. Vanessa obviously engages in premarital sex. I don’t know why it’s reproachable if Ashley does as well. And if Ashley is going to move on to the next guy when one doesn’t work out, she has that right. No reason to try to force a relationship to work when it isn’t. Maybe that’s because Ashley’s self esteem is higher? She doesn’t need the guy for her own confidence so if things aren’t working she’ll move on. I think the fact that so many of her former guy friends later become her lovers shows that she must be a very sweet and desirable person. Obviously they fawn over her for a while before they even get to be with her lol.

There is no way to white wash it . Looking for love? Don’t make me laugh. Sleeping around is sleeping around no matter what you call it.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 11:25 pm

I love Scott, I hate Scott, I love Martian, I hate Martian, i love Scott again, I hate Scott again, I love whatshisface now. Yeah she has self esteem. She’s had more relationships in 5 months than Vanessa’s had in 7 years.

@tina: One man type of girl. Is Ashley dating a few guys at once? She’s committed also. I wouldn’t speak too soon about your hero. Quite frankly, Austin often looks unhappy in his picks with Van. Bo is saying that the ratings for carrie diaries were bad. Now, in the interests of furthering his career, Austin has to hustle to find more work. You think he wants to get all domestic at age 21? On top of that, if Hudgies career stalls out and she follows him around all the time, Austin may realize that he needs his freedom to have a better chance success in the industry, rather than having this ball and chain clinking around everywhere he goes. I say they will separate by the end of the year. Hope i’m not out of line.

Letting an infinite number of men use your body , is a sign of good self esteem? Good to know, I was under the impression just the opposite was true.

Four guys? Nope. Scott, Martin, Christopher. That’s three. And it just so happened that Martin started in 2011, Scott came back around in 2012 and it didn’t work out, and then French showed up at the very end of the year. Nothing wrong with that.

And now we have A and Nightwish dominating Vanessa’s threads. Now what does this tell us? They are playing a game here and it is like Winner takes all. I think I’m done with these 2 lovebirds and there’s the 3 rd wheel. Enough already. We get it you 3 are on a mission to dominate Vanessa’s threads on JJ. Sad, really but I’m done with fighting petty and nonsensical battles with you pathetic Trolls acting childishly.Make it your battle not mine. I will just continue supporting Vanessa like I always have and always will.

@Haters Suck!: Please, you wouldn’t hold it against Vanessa if it were that way, so stfu. That is often how it goes with us younger generation anyways mister, i don’t know how it is with you dom’s.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 11:31 pm

You’ve been out of line for so long no need to worry about it now. I guess it’s not possible to you at all Austin likes being around Vanessa that’s why he’s with her. If he would be smiling with her you’d call it fake, he isn’t smiling so he’s unhappy. There’s no pleasing you either way.

So now you know what Austin wants?

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 11:33 pm

And if it was Vanessa the endless name calling from you would be even worse than it is so don’t give me that crap.

@tina what you’re saying is bull. Infinite number of men “use your body?” I don’t see that at all. She’s with ONE guy at a time. She IS looking for love. But if it’s not there you move on. Use her? No, because even Martin said that he had deep feelings for Ashley but because of her they couldn’t get serious. Basically he took the high road from saying she still had feelings for Scott. And who could blame her? They were together for two years before Martin. Now French has been her friend for YEARS and that’s already an established relationship. So now Ashley and French are dating. They seem close or very progressed for this stage? Well the awkward ice breaker stage isn’t there, that’s why. They already know each other and so now it’s just developing the lust aspect of the relationship.

You’re really judgmental. Sorry, but sex IS very important in a relationship. It’s a way to connect on an intimate level that you can’t in any other way. Besides that it’s FUN. Learn that and maybe things will work out better for you and your husband or boyfriend or lack there of, needle @ss.

@tina if you can know Ashley’s personal sex life so well, why shouldn’t nightwish be able to interpret the “Vaustin” relationship?

Even if they were to break up tomorrow she’d have to get with and break up with two or three others to catch up with hotpants.

Wrong haterssuck, if Austin truly looked happy, i wouldnt have made the assertion, above. And the next time you come in all phake with your ‘fan here’ handle and get unacceptably vitriolic, there will be a lot more ‘fanfiction’ than just houses on stilts and van’s nude pic plastered on your ceiling.

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 11:41 pm

Yeah whatever. You can never please a conspiracy theorist. They’ll go down with their conspiracy till the very end if they have too.

I know because SHE ADVERTISES IT. He is going on what “he feels” which has not a da mn thing to do with what is. So you know what number she will stop at in this quest to find “true love? ” If not the number is infinite.

@Haters Suck!: You have been out of line, from birth

Haters Suck! @ 01/15/2013 at 11:50 pm

Your father was out of line for being cheap and not grabbing a rubber. Guess he used all his spare change on your hooker mother.

@tina she NEVER advertises her love life. Vanessa does with all her pda. Ash got caught kissing French in public recently. In her whole relationship with Scott they got snapped with pda like three times? That’s it. What about Vaustin? Now THAT is “advertising.”

@Haters Suck!: Ooh. Billy bob wants to tussle and bring my parents into the picture. Tell me something hatersuck, was it an escaped felon putting it to a trailer park w*hore, or was it a trailer park w*hore giving it up to the entire escaped prison population with your folks? LOL

@HS you just called his mother a h*ooker? Classy move bro. If I had any respect to lose for you, I would, but I don’t.

He sounds much more educated than you do, so I’m guessing he isn’t the one who should be painted as some sort of trailer trash.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:01 am

Damn straight and I’ll do it again @nutwish your mothers a hooker. @A don’t want your respect. He sounds like a freak a nature out alone in a trailer park working on his conspiracy theories.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:04 am

That made zero sense but I guess 5 generations of inbreeding will do that to ya.

@hs that’s stupid and immature and you sound like such a jack@ss. But then if asked to describe you those are the words I’d choose anyway.

YOUR mother didn’t care enough about you to see to it that you were educated enough to have simple command of the english language and its spellings. LOL.

@Haters Suck!: I don’t blame you for being pissed. We make you look absolutely ridiculous here. For the record, my mother is a fantastic person, very loving and self-sacrificing, distinguished, extremely well loved by many and God-fearing, but unfortunately, she has been battling CLL for about 5 years now. It’s manageable, but ultimately, she will lose that battle. A ‘hooker’ is most definitely an extremely evil and unfair characterization of her.

@nightwish you didn’t owe him that description. A comment like his is unprecedented, irrelevant, and beyond reproach. Very sorry about the cancer battle, but if a rich life was lived, full of love and experience, that’s what matters most.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:12 am

@nutwish and A
Here’s the thing I could give a crap what you think of me. I dislike you, you hate me it is what it is. Just showing i can be as nasty as you both can be. I didn’t ask for this fight and I most certainly didn’t start it I just wanted to support Vanessa but that somehow disturbs the both of you. I’m not afraid of you.

@A: You are correct. If hatersuck had a higher education, he would likely see through the fluff and take things more in stride here, rather than react the way he does. His spelling and composition would also be much improved. Anyone can come up with “yo mamma’s a hooker”. That’s just uncreative and boring.

@HS actually in my case you absolutely DID start it. LOL.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:16 am

I am cutting through the fluff. I don’t like you or A, you both hate me it is what it is. I think that cuts through the fluff pretty good.

@Haters Suck!: But the sad thing is, you reiterated it. Jesus. You know what? I forgive you. Say it again, it won’t bother me. The sad fact, though, is that’s all you have, all you can come up with.

suck smething , you just showed your true colours .i wonder why the so -tough on ethics and disciplines on jj sorta adults here aka tiktik , k.v.agina , oncofake etc who would like to go ranting about the usage of a common slang by me and brand me a vulgar mouth are keeping their mouths shut on this ? because he’s one of them ? of course double standards much .

b.utt ,i’m sorry to hear about your mother .what’s CLL btw?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:20 am

Take your forgiveness and shove it. Don’t want it , don’t need it. Especially from someone like you.

@Haters Suck!: If you were smart, you would realize that we DONT hate you. We dont even KNOW you. All we know is your username “hatersuck”, and the typical comments behind that username. We know that your comments are often moronic at times and we love to pull your chain, but are your name, pictures, credentials etc on display here? To be honest, i LOVE when you are here.

@BO: chronic lymphocytic leukemia. It’s been under control. Tnx for asking

@HS I DON’T like you. There’s only one person in the world I hate and that person has done something deeply traumatizing to me. Other than that, I’d like to say I don’t HATE anyone, though that is a word I’ll toss out in anger. So nope, don’t care about you enough to hate you. If I hated you you’d deeply affect me and you DON’T.

And my God, you didn’t even apologize for your disgusting comments and now you’re “denying” his offered forgiveness? Gross. I think it’s gross. If I had just called your mother a cheap hooker your father couldn’t spare a condom for and you responded in kind that she’s a selfless woman suffering from Leukemia, my face would be burning right now.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:28 am

If your looking for an apology keep looking youre not getting one from me. And no I don’t want his forgiveness far as I’m concerned I’m just playing the game you both started. You’ve both said worse things about me last night and about Vanessa. You’ve called me mentally handicapped and said I wasn’t fit to be the ground you walk on. So don’t play victim with me.

@A: Actually, if there’s any hate here, hatersuck’s hate for me wins hands down. His ‘fan here’ handle really shows it. He would shoot me if he had the opportunity. Maybe anger management class would help, or taking a drive to a mountain top and screaming would do. Of course, there’s the irony of his own username. lol

no friend got leaukamia too .she’s ok now .perhaps your mom will be ok too

@nightwish hahahah I guess we all have our pets when it comes to the regulars. I like it when maria’s around to argue with myself. Though I think I have more of a soft spot for her whereas you just enjoy mocking haters suck’s infantile remarks and inferior intelligence. LOL.

@Haters Suck!: But i thought hater’s suck? LOL

@HS yes but you’re here to express and defend yourself. Nightwish’s mother is not. You know nothing of her. She’s not fair game. THAT’S the difference.

what the hell over 400 comments on this post
wow its way past high school n u are still comparing them competing with each other woa calm down fans
the extremely long arguements are hilarious

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:32 am

Vanessa’s not here to defend herself. Doesn’t seem to matter when you spew hate her way.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:34 am

Your a hater and you suck. What’s the problem?

@HS she’s not here to see what’s said about her either. And this IS a GOSSIP post about her. And Ashley isn’t here to defend herself either. And when I insult Vanessa it’s usually after one of you say something about Ashley. I have a temper lol.

That poke enough holes in your argument?

@Haters Suck!: But Pudgekin has planted herself in the spotlight. She WANTS the attention. She has to accept criticism for her work and her exposure. This goes with the job, criticism for her desire to have attention, it’s like an occupational hazard. Get it?

.oh cool .my video has got 11 hits in 2 hors .thanks buddies

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:38 am

Didn’t know constantly calling her fat was part of that so no I don’t get.
You’re so self righteous it’s sickening

@Haters Suck!: Anything for her master’s voice. Faithful in middle age to boot.

suk something , did you watch my newest vieo ? it describes how zac will get a nomination for oscars with AAP .it’s a little sad in my opinion the cannot be said about *cough cough* someone .gosh .she’ll never get to go to oscars even

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:43 am

I wouldn’t watch your video if my life depended on it.

i can picture BUTTler at the moment , pulling hair out , hitting head on the wall and pudge should be helping him do that .lol

@HS LOL uhm okay? Not sure where that fits in with what I’ve said most recently but okay.

To hate someone who doesn’t agree with what you love, hatersuck, that’s a very simple-minded take and not a very sentimental view of human nature, dude. You need to counter such opinions more artfully. This “i’ll say it again, your mom is a hooker’ mean-spirited and cheap insult will not exactly have anyone rushing to see your point, nor will it rouse support around you from others.

suk something , you know , i included most of the red carpet video parts of Zac at venice and then parts of his interviews at venice and tiff and then his autograph signing , fans screaming , his film’s footage tc etc in it .you stll don’t wanna watch it ? lol

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:50 am

I don’t care if you see my point. I don’t like you. And I really don’t want to hear about your views of human nature. You’ve spent months along with a calling Vanessa vile names and saying the nastiest most evil and wicked things about her. But now that its thrown back at your face its too much. You can dish it out but you can’t take it.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:53 am

Not even if you had a gun to my head.

@nightwish You’re right though. It’s just a man with no originality. If you’re going to go for a cheap insult at least get creative with it! I mean we really painted a picture of a weirdo crazy at home with his stilt house and Vanessa shrine LOL. That’s more entertaining for everyone hahahah.

@HS throwing it back would be insulting him not his ill mother. Don’t you ever try to lecture anyone else on boundaries ever again though, okay? Because every time you do you can be sure I’ll be bringing this up, in the same way you never let anyone live down a brief lapse in judgment. (Although yours isn’t brief and you show no remorse.) Oh, but at least I won’t exaggerate like you do. But why would I need to? The truth makes you look abhorrent already.


Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:59 am

Bring it up I don’t care. I stand by what I said. You and nutwish putting me down and insulting me was really classy. You put down all
Vanessa fans as re!ards and idiots and will chew out anyone who has anything nice to say about her. You have no boundaries why should I? There no low you won’t go to when insulting me, Vanessa or any of her fans.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:01 am

Pudgie for one, pudgeskins, always calling her fat and making fun of her weight, you’ve thrown racial slurs at her. Do I really need to go on?

@HS You “stand by it?” If you insulted him I would take issue with that but how do you noblely “stand by” your mother is a hooker? It isn’t the truth so it doesn’t make since to “stand by” it. You’re a moron. BTW I don’t demean everyone’s intelligence. Just people who make absolute fools out of themselves like you.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:05 am

There isn’t any truth to 98% of what you say but you say it anyway. You have no boundaries so why should I?

suk something , i’ve included a beautiful indian music to it too .still you wouldn’t watch it ? lol,

@HS no, I’m not a liar. I speak the truth.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:08 am

You slander me, you slander Vanessa, you slander her fans, you slander anyone who disagrees with you. You speak nothing but lies.

@HS “You speak nothing but lies.” Well see that itself has to be a lie. Unless I was lying just then. In which case you speak the truth. But then THAT would be a lie as well. Oh no! It’s a conundrum.

This statement is a lie. Isn’t that one of the best mind benders of all time. Heehee. :p

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 1:14 am

Let’s look at this positivistically, hatersuck. You hate me and no doubt would stick a seven inch blade in my back if you came across me. Sadly, such feelings and impulses arise from mere verbal exchanges on a paparazzi message board. This has me wondering what types of reactions and behaviors you are capable of in a real-life setting. Perhaps it’s God’s will that we (or i) have showed up here. Maybe it’s a refining of sorts for you, to garner some practice in a virtual setting for an actual encounter in a real-life setting. If you can’t get your feelings under control here, how are you supposed to do so otherwise? If you learn something now, perhaps it may prevent a real disaster in the future, one you are currently not capable of handling. Get a handle on your feelings, and don’t let the inconsequential sh!t going on here rile you so. Think about it, there is usually a reason for everything, and we should be learning from all of our experiences. I see you as this big basalt rock, but maybe there are a few nuggets of iron or copper in there to be gleaned. No?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:14 am

No it’s easier just to call you a liar.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:18 am

I don’t hate you, you hate me. If I came across you I wouldn’t need a 7 inch blade I’d just kick your ass. Don’t understand why it’s perfectly ok for you, a, and bo to be nasty and rude but not me. Your double standards are amazing.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:22 am

You remind me of my school bully the guy spent months and moths taunting me, making fun of me, calling me names, much like you do and I never did anything about it. Never said a word just blew it off. Till one day he went to far and i kicked the crap out of him. Needless to say he left me alone after that. You’ve crossed the line so many times you can’t see it anymore. You think you can be as hateful as you want and no one should say anything about it. Sorry that’s not how it works n

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 1:22 am

@Haters Suck!: I read that list of words you consider, let’s see here, as you put it “vile names and saying the nastiest most evil and wicked things”. Then, here’s your example of such, “Pudgie for one, pudgeskins, always calling her fat and making fun of her weight”. I rest my case when it comes to your nature to completely exaggerate. Stop being so fos.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:25 am

If you don’t consider constantly calling Vanessa fat, throwing racial slurs at her vile than I don’t consider calling your mother a hooker any worse. It’s the same ballpark to me.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 1:27 am

@Haters Suck!: So you would physically assault me? Over AN ACTRESS? An actress you don’t even know, who doesn’t even know you exist, who would give a flying f*ck if you ended up getting your own ass-kicked in the process? Oh, that is just brilliant, hatersuck.

When’s the fight going down? Can we place bets on the outcome? Guess who my money’s on? Hahahah.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:31 am

Not just for the things you’ve said about her but the things you’ve said about me. And i know you’d try and hurt me if you got the chance. Hell it wouldn’t surprise me if you had the chance to hurt Vanessa you’d take it based off your comments n

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 1:32 am

@A: I wonder if he wouldn’t mind losing another front tooth LOL

@HS no way he’d want to physically assault a woman. Those kind of scenarios must exist only in your own sicko mind.

@nightwish hahahah.

suk something , how old are you ? i’d like to know your age

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 1:37 am

@Haters Suck!: Go ask the rest of team A, Maria, Bohji and Tina if they agree with you that i say “vile, evil” things about Vanessa. Example: Vanessa is a fu_____ Cu_____, or she’s a fu_______ wh_______, Slu____, or anything like that. I have never even said “Vanessa is fat”. Good luck. You want to nail me to the wall for saying that she needs to lose 4 more pounds so she can get action roles? Check your brane.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:37 am

I got all my teeth and trust me. If we were to fight losing your teeth would be the least of your problems.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 1:39 am

@BO: I’m reassessing my view of hatersuck. Everything before stands, but he’s middle aged. Possibly bald, or balding. Overweight. Still lives with his mom.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 1:40 am

@Haters Suck!: Whatever billybob.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:41 am

You keep calling her pudgie that’s calling her fat. And you’ve called Vanessa the worst names possible along with a, and bo. Anyone who’s read your comments can see that but clearly being a jackass is just fine with you

@nightwish @bo I picture him around thirty. Short and definitely has a small pen*is. Like pacific islander decent or something. And yes, either lives with Mom or lives in a small cramped apartment on his own, struggling to make ends meet.

But hey, this is just mere speculation. ;)

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:42 am

See you keep insulting me and yet you claim to be the good guy in all this.

@HS I call her “Hudge Pudge” all the time and I don’t think she’s fat at all. The nicknames get you riled up and that’s really the point.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:45 am

That is calling her fat. Amazing how you still claim to play victim in all this.

b.utt , this is my assessment .i think he’s a teenager or in early twenties ( he says he’s in college , right ) and is not very bright , i mean like lacking common sense .he doesn’t have a GF , has few friends of his same type .he’s been bullied constantly or at least considerable number of times in school and college .he’s very attached to his mom , you know , a mom’s son .he has a temper -not too bad ,but bad still – and when he does , he goes out of control and makes himslf look like a fool in front of others and regrets it later .he’s never engaged in s*xual acts or may be once or too hooked up but you know , not serious s*x.he is very much controlled by his mom and thus fears drinking ,partying etc .so he doesn’t engage in them much .he loves hudgens with his dear life but never see as a ‘girl ‘ , you know ,his fanboying hudge has nothing to do wtih s*xual attracion about her .he worships her , considers superior goddess like and considers anyone who insults her aka us , sinful since we are being disrespectful at his Goddess .this is my full assessment of suk something .

Descent not decent. Now look at my spelling. Either I’m catching Haters Suck’s stoopid, or I just really need to go to bed now! Teehee.

over 400 comments! dont you people have sh*t to do? whats the point anyway A is just gonna spam ashley stuff on the next post and the next until we are brainwashed to accept ashley tisdale. i accept her, but i still prefer vanessa. i dont know why i just do and im not saying one is better than the other at all. their sex lives are irrelevant and we cant tell at this point who is bigger and who isnt. give it 3 years and we’ll see

I think the blame for all this s.h.i.t that goes on Vanessa’s threads goes solely to her fans. Not these haters. These people have been arguing over the same things forever now. How about us fans just IGNORE these haters. Why do most of you guys take what these people say seriously. What is being written here isn’t going to effect Vanessa in any way. You guys always tell these people to go away and then you turn around and gives them exactly what they want. Attention. Stop replying to them if it bothers you that much. But I am expecting you guys wont be doing that because its obvious you like arguing with them. Might as well admit it and tell them to stay.

i love ms. Vanessa Hudgens.

fairy11204 @ 01/16/2013 at 4:39 am

@Trevor:@A@BO@nightwish, They say bad things almost everyday on her wall, it’s not just once or twice.
You’ll get mad if you see it in her fan’s position

excuse me , we say bad things on her wall ? walll as in facebook walll ? or the wall round her house ? nuts ???

Mister Ree @ 01/16/2013 at 5:26 am

@BO: He he exactly!

@fairy Actually I am a fan of her and I am sick of this. Maybe you are new to her threads on jj but there was never ever this amount of b.i.t.c.h.i.n.g going on in her threads. Sure there were people who talked s.h.i.t about her before but not like how these people does. I honestly believe if we won’t reply to them we wouldn’t be getting hundreds of useless comments. but I guess the regulars here actually likes the haters so they just can’t ignore them.

Mister Ree @ 01/16/2013 at 5:31 am

Look! They are confusing Vanessa with a famous iraqi actress.

I’m trying to understand how she still hasn’t been knocked up or at least married to austin yet. doesn’t make much sense hanging on him like 24/7 since they started dating… I’m in surprise he hasn’t gotten tired of how clingy she is yet.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 8:22 am

Trevor, /this:
“I think the blame for all this s.h.i.t that goes on Vanessa’s threads goes solely to her fans. Not these haters. These people have been arguing over the same things forever now. How about us fans just IGNORE these haters. Why do most of you guys take what these people say seriously. What is being written here isn’t going to effect Vanessa in any way. You guys always tell these people to go away and then you turn around and gives them exactly what they want. Attention. Stop replying to them if it bothers you that much. But I am expecting you guys wont be doing that because its obvious you like arguing with them. Might as well admit it and tell them to stay.”
Excellent! Thank you for that. Wait, what?

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 8:26 am

@Trevor: You have to define a coupla terms before you can convince anyone of anything there buddy, “hater”, and “talk(ing) s.h.i.t” about Vanessa. tia.

Do you wanna see your hudge really happy , i mean really reallly happy , you know eyes glowing , smiling , not trying too hard to show happiness like when she’s with BUTTler ?

see how different she was then .how truly happy ,,

@Trevor when the three of them are together they are the definition of cyber bullying. When you ignore them they talk to each other. I tolerate a lot but when the start bringing up shi t as an excuse to put Vanessa down I have no problem in letting them know what is past is past. You can’t change the past. But I will call a spade a spade. There is nothing cute about a thirty year old women flitting from man to man.
If wanting to be with the guy you’re suppose to be dating instead of posting pictures of you smashing your body onto numerous other men while you’re in ‘relationship’ is clingy: I prefer clingy. I have said many times I don’t care about the ex or whatsherface. I now can say A has succeeded in making me distrust her idol.

@Trevor: I agree. I’ve been following Vanessa for awhile and while there were some haters, they were nothing like the three psychos that post on her threads now. There are almost 500 posts on this thread..pages and pages of irrelevant and off topic bullsh*t. It’s really sad when you lead such an empty lives that coming here and trashing others is what you do to fill that void. Something is seriously wrong with these people.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 9:25 am

@kylie: Why do you assume somethings seriously wrong with me? I compliment vanessa and im rebuked. Im honest about my observation with her and im rebuked. That was your new found friend trevors whole point, just ignore if you dont like the comment.

Yep, I am done with debating with delinquents who pride themselves in spamming and trolling on Vanessa’s threads. All I want to do is be supportive and say something positive on her threads. Not wasting my precious time arguing with the 3 stooges namely, miss Perfect A, NutWish and Bozo. It started off with Bozo, then Intric8/ Nightwish and A got recruited along the way. These 3 have exchanged twitter adds and email adds and make it their mission to do major damage here. So now we know who are the real conspirators here.

Tina so you are saying if you guys wouldn’t have replied to these people, then they would’ve talked with eachother for over 8 pages. You guys were arguing the whole 24 hrs yesterday. I can assure you this thread would not have made 20 Pages if you wouldn’t have replied to them. The sad thing is most of the times @A @Nightwish and @Bo wins the discussion and beat you guys to shame. So I really don’t understand why you keep coming back to get a taste of them and on top of that we always lose. And I can assure on another thing that they come here because you guys give them attention. Not because they hate Vanessa per say. Why don’t you guys just admit you love having them around here because I get the vibe that you guys can’t go a day without having a little taste of them. And then put all of us and Vanessa to shame by losing the conversation and it actually makes the whole fandom look like some idiots.

@Nightwish: I think you @A and @BO are cyber bullies. Cyber bullies are not happy people IMO. They are frustrated people who aren’t living the dream, therefore they take it out on others in this case Vanessa and her fans. You people treat Vanessa’s threads like it’s your own personal chat room to spew your hate.

@Trevor(or Nightwish or whoever you are): you are nuts!

I am just sick of this never ending trash talk that goes on her posts. Just think about it for a second. And think carefully. Do you guys think this trash talking is going to stop any time soon? Because I have a feeling that as long as we her fans, I am specially refering to the regulars here. @Haters suck @Bohji @maria @tina will keep replying to them, these people will keep coming back. How long is this going to happen? This might even go on for years if they want to. The only way to stop this is ignore them completely and stop replying to them. I am sure they will go away after some time or else this is never going to stop. I am honestly tired of this..

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 9:59 am

@xoxox: I was being sarcastic! Sorry! I forgot that Americans don’t get sarcasm!!!!!

@Trevor: First I wasn’t here 24 hr. I came back to the three on them boxing someone into a corner (If three bullying one person is what you think of as “winning” then more power to you) Secondly I do ignore them until the push me over the edge. I will let no one (even a liar who says he is a fan) continue to insult the ones who come here to support her. If you don’t like it, don’t come here.

trevor,are u that emma or smone who once came saying the same thing?

@Trevor: Way to go, Trevor!

@tina, I’m behind you on this. Wanted to say a couple of things but for no rhyme or reason got moderated. Anyway, I have been too preoccupied of late.
@ Kylie, they are cyber bullies, I agree. They are treating this like a game and targeting Haters suck. They are really no better than juvenile delinquents.

Tina I wasn’t talking about you arguing with them 24 hrs. But they were here the whole day yesterday and you were one of them who were arguing with them. Then you went away and maria and haters suck came over.

I believe you are saying there that I am a fake fan because I don’t tolerate this arguments that goes on here And that I am against it which in your book might make me a fake fan. Actually in my book you clearly aren’t a real fan then. You must be coming here to get the enjoyment of arguing with them. Am I right or am I right.

As I said, when is this going to stop. How long are we going to get these people coming here to trash talk about Vanessa.

@Trevor: And in answer to your question. Yes, if we didn’t answer back they would continue to post here. Then the three of them start congradulating each other for running us off of Vanessa threads. The fact that I don’t say anything to them for weeks at a time has gone over your myopic head. You must live in a bubble if you think you can come here all high and mighty and fix this by stopping us from commenting. Or are you just here to help your friends?

@Trevor: Hold on for a sec my good man. Trash talk is very hard to define. If i’m of the opinion that pudgekin has been looking italian or arabic lately, or that her plunging neckline smacks of desperation, or that she needs to lose 3 more pounds to look ideal for those highly coveted action roles, or that she looks like she’s tapping yoko ono with a particular look, just how does that qualify as trash talking? Those are legitimate viewpoints, and jared welcomes such opinions. Pudgie? That’s a word for someone we would consider slightly overweight, not fat. Now enter that degenerate hatersuck, who in his misguided enamoration of his fantasy crush, takes upon himself to threaten me with bodily harm. Just how do you think the thread will ensue? There are other considerations i havent even touched on, needless to say, these threads are complicated and difficult to resolve.

Just looking forward to SpringBreakers that is all and I have to get moderated for that. This board is wonky.

@tina: Come on bitchy. The guy is just talkin straight, lets not be fixin to run him outta town so quick.

@Nightmare’s, @A’s and @BO’s objective is to cause a lot of discord in the fandom…to turn everyone against each other. I refuse to get into seven page arguments with them. I’m not even going to waste my time going there. But those jerks make it impossible to ignore them especially when they are bullying people into a corner. I’m almost positive they have some kind of personality disorders. Also when they start making racist remarks about Vanessa and her family which they have on several occasions…then sh*t gets real.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 10:34 am

Tell you what when someone spits in your face you respond however you’d like. These people throw racial, homophobic and all other slurs they can think of and me at other Vanessa fans and at Vanessa. You want to let people walk all over you that’s your choice but I’m not gonna stand for it

@kylie: That’s a crock of sh!t. Your definition of personality disorder is a mental state of mind where one is not crazzzzy about Hudgie. You see that **** on your computer, Kylie? Just turn it until it reaches deep ignore level 9, and if thats not enough, turn it to total ignore level 10.

Her gown especially the top part with the sequins looks absolutely gorgeous in the video. The pics don’t do justice to the gown.

Bohji has me on kind of a quasi total ignore, after she’s finished watching that video she linked, she’ll proceed to read my latest comment with one eye open lol

@Nightwish: When I say personality disorders, I’m talking about how they are defined by the National Institutes of Mental Health. Borderline, Paranoid, Histrionic……etc.

@kylie: I meant the National Institutes of Health..the NIH.

@tina I am not acting almighty at all. I am just a fan sharing my opinion hoping others would understand these people will be trash talking here forever if we keep replying to them. Would it really matter even if they congratulate eachother after we would stop answering them when most of the time they beat us anyway.

@Nightwish: I’m not saying….I’m just saying.

@tina the point is you just hate Ashley for having ever had Zac’s arms around her when a camera was out. It’s why you like BO too, because she’s a Zanessa lover. Admit it, you’re just as caught up in the couplings as she and I are.

Other than be very close to Zac (which, unfortunately, I haven’t gotten a new picture of them together in MONTHS it seems) she hasn’t taken close pictures with any other guy that’s not been her boyfriend. And like I said, if you think they’re just friends, then it shouldn’t bother you.

I mean, I think that if I were in Vanessa’s shoes back during her and Zac’s relationship, I would have wanted to scratch Ashley’s eyes out and wouldn’t let Zac within 100 feet of her. BUT she did neither of those things, so who are we to judge? Maybe their relationship really is innocent. Or maybe Vanessa was so keen on getting the fame advantage from being with Zac that she was willing to turn her head every single time he was flirting, groping, or complimenting Ashley. Somehow I think it’s the second, but I digress.

Kylie, you want to DSM me based on comments from a pap site? What kind of budding psychiatrist are you?

And thus a stronger and smarter leader emerged from the decaying ruins of the Hudgekin Empire. But alas the masses turned their heads to him, weary of his true intentions, their minds clouded with distrust, realizing the utopia world of which he spoke was nothing more than a hazy dream, never to be realized.

@kylie: I mean, what, i don’t follow the crowd opinion on a Hudgens post so that makes me sociopathic? That hardly qualifies as a sound psychiatric evaluation sweetpea, even aunt oncofake will testify to that.

@A: Masterful. Love, you have mail.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:10 am

Of course you agree he was saying we should let you go on and on with your hateful remarks towrad Vanessa and to us fans while we sit on our hands and do nothing. It actually wouldn’t surprise me is “Trevor” was one of u stooges.

@Mother Bohji are you still here? Can I ask you something? How do you feel about Haters Suck calling nightwish’s cancer battling mother a cheap hooker twice last night? Do you condone that?

@haters suck nobody makes racial or homophobic remarks. (homophobic??? Where would there have been an opportunity for anyone to even be homophobic?) However YOU enjoy mocking the terminally ill mothers of the people who come here with very SEXIST s!ut implications? How do you plea?

Golden globe lax departure. I’ll keep this thread in my memory so I can always send people here to the appropriate page to see his comments in the future.

@HS wasn’t saying I agreed. I did say his “utopia” was truly just pipe dream now didn’t I? I don’t think you ever can ignore us, and even if you did, there’d be more who would come to talk to us. But he had a valid voice, is even a fan, but you all turn your noses up at him because his opinion doesn’t match your own. Oh, I definitely agree that you all enjoy us being here. Admit it, this is entertainment. Hell, it’s entertaining to me.

@nightwish no, YOU have mail. :p

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:18 am

It’s never occurred to you that nutwish is a liar and only said that to gain sympathy and make me look bad. After all he basically calls every Vanessa fan a fake like Maria for example so I don’t believe him. You threw racial remarks at Vanessa at her mother with your monkey comment, nutwish does it all the time. You call us mentally handicapped and re&ards those comments are very offensive.

I knew this would happen. If someone doesn’t go by the main criteria on here then that person is labeled as a fake fan or a hater. If you think about it carefully I am actually a true fan of her who honestly can’t take trash talking towards Vanessa. But some people is in a hurry to label me as a hater so my voice is ignored and unheard. That is just sad. I was right. Some of the fans are the reason she gets all this unwanted hate.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:19 am

I don’t believe “Trevor” is a fan. I think he’s one of you. If you really wanted a “utopia” you’d leave us alone.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:22 am

Don’t think you’re a hater or a fake fan. Just think you’re fake and your with the stooges to justify their hateful remarks. It wouldn’t surprise me if you’re actually nutwish under a different name. Wouldn’t be the first time he’s done this.

@Trevor: Dude, they will not believe you. They think this is a set up. In their minds, either you are with them or against them.

@HS Nope. I don’t think that. No one would ever lie to say their mother had something so gravely serious, for fear of their words actually bringing it upon her, you see. And she didn’t have to be ill, your hooker comment would have still stood, offensive, and made even more so by its unoriginality.

I dunno dude, I’m inclined to believe the guy. See, I know he’s not me. And he can’t be BO, her voice is too distinguished. That just leaves nightwish, and again, I pick up on differences in the voice. Not only that, but if nightwish were trevor, he would have informed me via email, and you’re just going to have to trust that he has not. ;)

@HS uh uh uh uh, dude, I called YOU mentally challenged. Don’t you go dragging maria into this just because I admitted that she’s a regular I happen to have a soft spot for. ;p

@Haters Suck!: I do what all the time? I call Gina what? Hatersuck, you are a man of few admirable qualities, but i never expected you to be such a flat out liar.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:27 am

You’d actually be surprised how often it happens. 7 out of 10 times I insult someone’s mother or use a mom joke. The response I get with out fail is my mothers dying. His mother dying and instead of being with her he’s spreading hate toward me or Vanessa. Not buying it n

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:31 am

You’re a man with 0 admirable qualities. And no I don’t believe Trevor. He sounds just like you. Let you be hateful and the rest of us should shut up.

@HS so insulting mothers is something you do often? LOL dude it’s just weak. I mean, offensiveness aside, “yo mama is so…” is just SO played and uncreative. It’s enough to induce a yawn. If I had just taken the time to craft a very cutting insult targeted directly at you, and you shot back with a “your mother’s a *****” joke, well I would just be pissed because I went through all that trouble to get a dime a dozen insult that really has no precedence anyhow.

@Haters Suck!: Moron, she has a type of leukemia that is controllable.. to an extent. I am not the celeb here, my mom is not the mother of a celeb. It’s Vanessa who is seeking and getting public attention, and her mom gets photographed with her and loves it as well. What, youre not expecting honest, sometimes brutal observations to be made about how they look? Well tell her to quit acting and get out of the business!

Can’t you just picture it? Haters suck in a stale mate lock down with some poor sap, the two firing back at one another. His adversary hits home with a nasty jab that leaves HS reeling. His mouth agape, he struggles for a response that will stab back with equal caliber. Finally, after a long awkward moment’s pregnant pause HS’s face is overcome by a wicked grin, certain he has found the perfect line:

“Oh yeah? Well your mother’s a hooker!”

His opponent bursts into a fit of laughter.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:39 am

All you give is brutal observations. And I’d call you anything bu honest. Again I don’t believe you b

@Nightwish: No it’s the obsessive nature of your posts that make me think something ain’t right so to speak. I don’t care that you don’t like Vanessa although i suspect you actually do like her. But you and your friends bully people and try to psychologically cut them down. I also think you think of yourselves as intellectually superior to Vanessa’s fans. Not the case, we just aren’t going to spend all day trying to argue with you because that’s pretty futile and a complete waste of time. I’m here to support Vanessa not argue with you and your lonely hearts club members all day. And it’s not okay for you to make racist remarks about Vanessa or her family members.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:41 am

Yeah and calling someone’s mother an ape or a monkey is perfectly fine right.

@A: Dont forget the description of the desperation in his eyes in there. And his prominent eyebrow ridges, denoting lack of intelligence. lol

@Haters Suck!: Dont pin that monkey business on me pal, i had nothing to do with it

@HS mine was a visual observation. And since I have actually SEEN Gina, at least I didn’t just draw it out of thin air. Not only that, but I made this comment on a thread, and I said it because someone said that Vanessa was born with the looks and Ashley was not and I pointed out that for her age Ashley’s mother is looking much more attractive than Gina. Someone insulted Lisa, so I insulted Gina. I never said it TO Vanessa and that is the biggest difference of all.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 11:54 am

yeah A that makes you a real saint. Or how bout saying Vanessa’s evil parents forced their poor daughter into show business so they can live off her. That was perfectly fine too right.

@HS LOL I never said I actually believed that. I believe I presented that as a “what if” scenario and it’s a valid one. It was really more just to get your goat and perhaps if your IQ were a little higher you’d have understood that. Ashley too, has been in the business since she was three, keep in mind. Although she was “discovered” accidentally and her mother was reluctant to allow her daughter into that world. So there is a difference there.

@Trevor: So coming here to say we should run in defeat like a cowardly army is the way to go. Are you sure your names not Rodney? No we can’t all just get along. If you wanted to show that she has fans that will let anyone say anything and take it, you have succeeded. Just by coming here you make them relevant.
I have said over and over she is happy, I am happy.
BTW, I wouldn’t care if the two of them had sex in the middle of Times Square it would only prove she’s a who re and he’ll scr ew anything. For the millionth time I DON’T CARE ABOUT EITHER OF THEM. I’m here as a fan of Vanessa nothing more or less. I don’t have to prove anything to anyone. I stand by any comments I make. I call them as I see them.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:05 pm

Or how bout you saying Vanessa’s parents were evil for homeschooling their daughter and raising her to be catholic. All these comments are offensive but you don’t care.

@HS LOL never said that. Nightwish and I got off on a different discussion altogether about how, in the wrong scenario, homeschooling could potentially be detrimental and then went on to discuss the idea of raising your children with the freedom to experience and choose different ideologies without having one forced upon them by their parents. It was completely separate from Vanessa. And lets get one thing straight right now, the only one who uses the word “EVIL” here is you. It’s a crazy extreme word and rightfully it’s used by a crazy extremist. Evil isn’t a word I have used at any point so get that straight.

Oh and catholic? Are you sure? I thought Vanessa was protestant?

@tina screw anything? LOL well that just makes Hudge look bad doesn’t it?? And Ashley’s a prize to be won no matter how you paint her, so don’t look at it that way.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:18 pm

And you aimed the direction at Vanessa’s parents. You can insult everyone and anyone u want however you want but tell us to shut up. You are the offensive one from how I see it.

@HS not really at all actually. That’s just how you saw it because you see the world through frames that naturally bend all light in Vanessa’s direction.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:24 pm

And you don’t live in a world where Ashley is the only good person in the world while Vanessa is pure evil and Ashley’s slave. After all Ashley’s your “big sister” right.

@Haters Suck!: This is why I chose to ignore A most of the time. She’s a bald faced liar. She will never own up to the things she has said or she will say it was a joke (or a what if). When all else fails she will go with “I’m just eigthteen” which she should have thought of before coming here calling people foul names and sprouting out right lies, all in an attempt to promote someone no one here but her cares about. She’s a snake just like her idol.
That’s why inspite of her obsession with the ex, I like bo, she is what she is. No lies or using her age when caught up in them. I know you dislike her but she is what she is, never pretends to be anything else.
Unlike intric8, nightwish, or whatever the he ll name he is using this week. He’s liike the character two-faced always talking from both sides of his mouth.Nothing like a man who lack integrity, who will flow anyway the wind blows.

Tina why don’t you e mail Bo and meet up somewhere and you guys can hook up then.

I ignore ignorance.

@HS so overdramatic lol. No I don’t live in a world where any of those three things are the truth.

But yes, I do view Ashley as a sort of big sister figure. Just like Bohji says she views Vanessa as a daughter type.

EVILLLLL!!!! Lol there you go with that word again. You’re so off your rocker it’s not even funny. You’re so lucky you live in this time. There was a point in history where your relatives would have just locked you up in the attic and never spoke of you hahahahah.

@tina no YOU like BO because BO likes Zanessa and you realize that were they still together, she’d probably be a Vanessa fan. THAT’S why you like BO. I’m not a liar. The issue is, Haters Suck will take what I have said and exaggerate the truth, add crazy extreme embellishments like the words “evil” or “slave” and his recount of things is obviously just an emotionally charged hissy fit. It truly does sound like a six year old’s account of what a child on the playground called him. I don’t think I use my age as an “excuse” of any sort. I may enjoy rubbing it in from time to time or reminding you that you are much much older LOL. The only time in which I think I use my teenage status for justification is when we’re talking about idolization. In my mind, I just find it much more normal for a teenage girl to idolize a celebrity who is older than she is and whom she has been looking up to since she was a little girl. That’s me with Ashley. I struggle to understand the dynamic behind a middle aged woman who idolizes a girl half her age. It’s perplexing.

again ignored.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 12:40 pm

So what’s the age cut off on who gets to be a fan and who doesn’t and who sets those rules? Anything that doesn’t fit in with your perception is wrong. You think your word is law and your opinion is the only one that matters.

@tina Lol that translates into “again, unable to form a logical or intelligent argument so I’ll just say I’m ignoring her.” Never mind that you’re not one to typically “rise above” or fail to acknowledge me. Just scroll up!

Let me guess you’re response, “Again, again ignored.”

Or no, needle ass will just disappear now, as evidence that she truly is mastering this whole newfangled “ignore her” concept. :p

@hs There’s not an age cut off. I’m not saying that. But given Ashley and Vanessa’s careers thus far and their typical fanbase, it does boggle me a little to come here and find SO many older fans. I thought we’d all be like ages 13-25 you see. And I understand the “idolization” fix for that age group. I don’t see how that would fit in for someone who’s already lived their life and who certainly wouldn’t be looking up to a girl in her twenties for role-modelship.

I’ve idolized Ashley since I was eleven years old. So I view her as a sort of big sister figure and that’s a large reason for why I view her as so “flawless.” All I’m trying to say really, is THAT’S the only thing I’ll use my age to sort of “justify” so to speak. I’d just think people would understand my own position in all of this if they realized that they haven’t had that same “fan” experience.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 1:04 pm

@A: I am a lot older than the average fan, which is extremely bad according to some on here. My excuse, though I don’t see why I need one, is that am rescricted by being a carer, so yeah, I still obsess over celebs. Which according to HS makes me an idiot as I should abandon my family to live my own life. I don’t post anywhere here very much as I got fed up of my age being such a big issue to certain people. I thought JJ was meant to be for adults? The children should be on JJJr.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:10 pm

@Merlins mum
A thinks its wrong you’re an older fan. And let’s face it your obsession with Zac and other young male celebs is kinda creepy. It’s more than just being a regular fan.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 1:22 pm

@Haters Suck!: OK I’m creepy. I like to watch films and programmes and look at pictures of guys half my age. But at least I am not on here tearing into complete strangers and insulting their parents. And I prefer the word ‘eccentric’ thank you :)

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:30 pm

@merlins mum
Please much like A you have no problem insulting people’s mothers as long as its Vanessa’s mother

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 1:32 pm

@Haters Suck!: I don’t recall ever insulting vanessa’s mother. You, however, have never had any problem insulting me.

@merlin’s mum I don’t really think it’s “wrong.” I’m not saying that. I’m saying it’s perplexing to me. I’m talking about older women who seem to have an idolization fix with a girl half their age. That’s hard for me to understand.

As for you @HS aren’t you creepy for being an older man obsessing over Vanessa? I think it’s much creepier for a dirty old man to be ogling a young girl. Because there’s an aspect of real vulnerability there and that’s the difference.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:38 pm

@merlins mum
And you’ve had no problem insulting me what’s your point?
I’m a few months younger than Vanessa thank you very much.

@HS I don’t insult people’s mothers. As I recall, “natural beauty” was being called into question and my initial observation was merely that if you looked at the path the girls were heading down in thirty years, Ashley’s mother was looking like the better option. Someone insulted her looks so I pointed out the obvious, that Gina doesn’t have a very pretty face. I don’t think that makes me someone who insults peoples mothers, particularly since, (and this is the key aspect that you don’t seem to understand HS) that this is a gossip thread ABOUT Vanessa, she and her mother are in the spotlight, my comments were not said TO Vanessa nor with the purpose of hurting her or her mother, and they’ll NEVER read it. Geesh.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:39 pm

Right try and justify your double standards all you want.

@A: I think you have HS confused with @Nightmare. I think Nightmare is probably in his 30′s or even 40′s.

@HS well I’m nine years younger than Ashley. I can look up to her as a role model. She inspires me. At the age of eleven I was OBSESSED with High School Musical and Sharpay. I loved the girly teeny stuff like Picture This! and Hellcats. All that is easy to grasp.

But what do you get out of your fixation with Vanessa? I really have to assume it’s masturbatory aid. I mean, are you really telling me that you’re a heterosexual male in his mid twenties who happens to really just enjoy High School Musical 3 and Beastly? It’s just hard to buy.

When all else fails put the blame on others for your conduct. Now Hater’s Suck! is responsible for making you into the liar you are. You have done nothing but lie since coming here. When called on your lies or your lies make your idol look less than admirable, you start that , I meant what if, or I made that up(which makes it a LIE). Poor sad little girl siting on her computer day and night , making up senarios in her head, but you don’t inspire pity, you inspire contempt .
And again I stand by what I say. I don’t have to make things up or joke about them. He said it himself HE LOVED HER. He has never denied it. HE WILL SLEEP WITH ANYBODY, NOW, so I guess your girl has a chance. You do know sex doesn’t mean love?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:48 pm

You’re a sick perverted individual. If there’s one person I don’t have to justify why I’m a fan of Vanessa it’s you

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 1:50 pm

@A: Oh, To be honest, I don’t really get girls obsessing about other girls at all! Unless that is the way they go, if you get my meaning.

@tina LOL okay needle ass. It’s obvious I’ve pushed you to breaking. At you’re age shouldn’t you have caught sight of greater priorities? Isn’t there something, anything, deeper in your life for you to target this anger towards. Do you really and truly believe me to be this terrible person because of the things I say here? Come now, tina, you must have learned more in your many, many years?

@HS LOL. Again, I think I’m pushing some buttons.

@merlin’s mum no, I don’t “go that way.” Hahah. It’s an idolization thing. It’s more fun to me than obsessing over a guy I don’t know. Because that’s just unfulfilling to me. I don’t have any siblings of my own or a close relationship with my own mother so I can kind of look up to Ashley as that older female role model. You know, listen to the advice she’s put out there, do my makeup like her, get fashion inspiration, get excited when she gets a good career achievement, that sort of thing.

Although I do pine for Zac through Ashley LOL. I don’t want him, but I want her to have him so bad lol. I’ve followed their relationship all these years too, because I was infatuated with the deeper chemistry between the two of them I perceived from the beginning.

It’s like the way I see it my desire for men is better targeted towards men I can actually get and develop a relationship with. But I don’t need a personal relationship with Ashley to get all I get out of looking up to her. Does that make sense? Maybe?

c’mon guys. just stop. i think you’ve had enough internet for now.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 1:59 pm

The fact that you’re disgusting and can’t accept Vanessa has a wide range of fans that don’t owe you an explanation yeah it’s hitting buttons

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:00 pm

Shut up and stay out of this. No one asked you.

can we finish at the fact that there will always be fans of ashley and there will always be fans of vanessa instead of getting so personal with eachother over people WE DON’T KNOW. we don’t know what they are like, who they are and they dont know us. we are just fans of their work/fashion sense/ their face. done. go to sleep.

@A: I accept people at face value. That’s what my many years have taught me If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it’s a duck. Plain and simple. You can deny forever what you are. But here time and time again you have proved yourself to be a contemptable liar with out regard for anyone but yourself. You are the one who brought this site to what it is today. Everyone bickering with one another. For what point? No one who is Vanessa’s fan is going to wake up tomorrow and say “Because of that little lying girl on JJ , I love Ashley.” Instead you get people like me who didn’t care one way or the other about her but now everytime I see them together I wonder if Ashley’s going to suck the blood from Vanessa neck.
If that was your object you have succeeded.

@Haters Suck!: woah no wonder people are arguing with you lol. this is why is said there is no need to get personal. isnt this an open place to comment?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:04 pm

Well I’m getting sick and tired of u too just like A and nutwish

@tina “never judge a book by its cover.” LOL. And you have to understand (well you don’t have to but I would think you would) that your passion for Vanessa is GREATLY influencing your opinion of what I am. My impression of you is a judgmental, condemning, hypocrite of a woman who’s quick to reduce any female she doesn’t have strong ties to as a s!ut. A female hater I suppose. Oh, and of course there’s the needle up your ass that makes me wonder if you’ve ever had a fun time at a party before. But hey, what do I know. I’m only seeing what you choose to express here on this thread. And I’m smart enough to realize that certainly isn’t everything and that you haven’t chosen to show me your good qualities because you don’t think I deserve them.

@HS LOL why do you keep on going off on those who attempt to be peacemakers dude? We (the so called “haters”) are always civil with them. She wasn’t attacking you and she’s one of your own so to speak, in that she’s here for Vanessa, so chill out.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:19 pm

You’re all for these peacemakers cause they are fine with you having as much as u want and tell us to shut up. If u wanted peace you’d leave us alone but that’s not what you want.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:20 pm

Hating as much as u want

@Haters Suck!: but…i haven’t done anything. i haven’t even commented for a while on here i just pop up to say that it may be time for someone to step down. but its clear that you enjoy this debate unless you wouldn’t be so sick of me…even though i am a fan of vanessa. yeah that makes sense. and i love how you put me in the same category as A and nightwish when i’ve barely spoken to you.

@samsam haters suck’s name is very ironic, let’s just leave it at that. I realize that you’re really just trying to reason with both sides, but the way he sees the world, if you’re not one hundred percent for him, then you’re one hundred percent against him.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:31 pm

another so called Vanessa fan that wants me to back down and shut up. I see you in the same light as a, bo and nutwish. You want the hating to continue and the fans to shut up.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:33 pm

if you’re not one hundred percent for him, then you’re one hundred percent against him.
Could say the same about you.

@Haters Suck!: seriously? i have said many of times to others who think vanessa is not doing well that she is getting very successful we just have to be patient. have you not seem my comments? i also write on justjaredjr so perhaps you haven’t realised when i defend vanessa. and do not tell me to shut up when you are the one who is still stuck in this endless pit with nightwish and A which one would call a dispute. i assure you, i am not “another so called vanessa fan” and i wasn’t actually talking specifically to you when i said you guys should all calm down. you are the only one who took it personal. its clear that i dont want the hating to continue unless i’d be joining in with you. but i wont. because then i am stooping down to your level.
and might i add that i love how you are trying to prove that you are representing the fans of vanessa and i am the traitor.

take a hike @ 01/16/2013 at 2:41 pm

This sh t is getting really old. At least @Nutwish the nut job and Miss Sri Lankan all kind of crazy aren’t here.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:43 pm

Whatever you say liar

@Haters Suck!: okay :) i love how we’re all liars on here even vanessa fans :) it really does make us look crazy you know.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:48 pm

Me being the fuqwit I am. Sorry ya’ll.

Believe what you will. I don’t think EVERY women is a sl ut but a 17 year old who sleeps with twenty somethings,(as the mother of three sons I can say after the age of 17 no normal male is going to want only to hold your hand and look into your eyes) and a grown ass woman who plasters her body against any availiable male (not just Zac) but ANYONE, I’ll make an exception for. None if the girls I know want to be known as the pass around pack. I know that my sons will introduce me to the ones worth knowing and will pull me in the direction if the other type comes along. So yes, you can say I know the difference. I once over heard my son on phone tell a girl he had a gf but would ‘smash’ her if she wanted (he was 17) I jumped down his throat for disrespecting her. He said if she’s calling him trying to sleep with him knowing he has a girlfriend, where does respect come into play.
If the cover is well used and has foul words in the title, I can bet I won’t be reading about picking flowers or baking cookies. Now go call for back up like you always do.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 2:55 pm

Yeah right. You’re no Vanessa fan. You’re more like bo a and nutwish.

@tina Let me spell it out for you b!tch. I’ve had sex with one person in my entire life. One. BTW you can do OTHER stuff with guys with out going all the way. Okay, because a more mature guy, while he wants to have sex, can restrain himself when two people decide they want to progress their relationship BEFORE you go to that final step and trust me, THAT is the guy who wants a real relationship. Most of them aren’t there at seventeen. That’s why I date guys who are a few years older than I am. I am not a s!ut. And neither is Ashley.

A girl who at the age of fifteen or sixteen was already taking a ton of naked photo shoots and sending them to guys who she was presumably sleeping with? Uhm, that might be interpreted as a s!ut.

Where does respect come into play? Uhm how about your son respecting his GIRLFRIEND the one that isn’t on the phone with him??? He sounds like a real prize. (That’s sarcasm.)

@HS so now you think you can tell someone whether or not they’re a fan of Vanessa? Where do you get off? Do you think you’re God? Dear Lord you’re insufferable.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:03 pm

@Haters Suck!: I think you need to go have a nice lay down. You don’t even seem to know what side you are supposed to be on at the moment. Even tearing into your fellow fans. Go have a rest and maybe you will feel better later :)

@A: can i just say that i dont get how you call tina, supposedly a mother a b!tch but nightwish’s mom who supposedly has cancer and someone called her a wh@re and you are completely against that. if she didn’t have leukemia, would you still defend nightwish?

@A: not trying to start something btw just wondering

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:12 pm

@merlins mum
I know who’s side I’m on and it’s not yours or a or samsams. I know the haters want to shut me up and go away do they can continue their vendetta against Vanessa but its not gonna happen. I won’t be silenced.

“If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then its a duck” so Vanessa is definately a duck then.

He was seventeen. Not in love but with someone. And yes he is a prize. Any form of sex is sex don’t delude yourself. Or are you like Bill Clinton in denial. To me a girl who has multiple sex(any form) partners in a short time is the sl ut. Unless the guy (and we know given the time and her age it was Zac) could actually use her body through the picures, then they were just that, pictures.

@samsam Not the same thing. I didn’t say anything about tina’s mother. The fact that she has sons (which I didn’t know until today) is irrelevant. She is here, representing and expressing herself, calling me a s!ut, etc. I can fire back with whatever insults I see fit. Tina’s mother is not here, I know nothing of her, so to call her mother “a hooker” like haters suck did would just be a dumb cheap shot.

@Haters Suck!: oohh you’re so bad, fighting this struggle alone in the wilderness and having the savage ashley fans attacking you but you stay strong gurl. its a tough world out their being a vanessa fan and all. calm down this ain’t a battlefield lol i dont get why you’re taking this so seriously. i feel like one of those friends whose trying to hold back another friend from a fight and they’re all like “why won’t you let me fight?you’re not my friend!” lol

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:17 pm

@Haters Suck!: You sound like such a nutjob spouting crap like that. Does Vanessa know how hard you work for her?.There is no ‘sides’ . You make it sound so damn serious!!

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:20 pm

@samsam merlins mum
Both of you can piss off.

@tina so you find fault with the girl who was offering herself to him, but no fault with the son you raised who would happily cheat on his girlfriend? Doesn’t matter if he was seventeen and not in love with her. Wrong is wrong is wrong. One day, when I have a son, I will teach him to respect women better than that. I’m not justifying the girl calling and asking to sleep with him. But two wrongs don’t make a right so to speak. A cheater is no prize. If your son was willing to sleep with another girl while he was already with someone then he is also a *****. And it’s worse because he would be betraying someone else in the process.

What sort of @ss backwards, female hating, sexist culture were you raised in tina? Seriously?

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:20 pm

@Haters Suck!: And yes, calling you a nutjob is insulting, but take a breath, step back and re-read your posts. You are making yourself look extremely stupid ranting in this manner. She’s just an actress! And you are just a fan! Like me! Calm down!!

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:24 pm

@merlins mum
All I wanted was to just be a fan but that was just impossible for you haters. You had to start insulting me personally Vanessa personally and every other fan who has anything nice to say about her personally.

@Haters Suck!: no…you see the thing is, this is an open area. i can comment here and so can the rest of the world. you can continue commenting we don’t give a crap it just makes you look dumber.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:26 pm

You’re just another hater so I could careless what you think of me. I know I’m right.

@Haters Suck!: you really are a die hard fan. i didn’t look at it that way before.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:28 pm

@samsam but i thought you were a vanessa fan?

You see tina, if that were my son, I would try to make him understand that even if that girl had no respect left for herself, that he shouldn’t reinforce that for her by reducing her to an object to be used. That perhaps she had been sexually assaulted or raped in the past and that trauma led her to view herself and men the way she did. I would want him to respect all girls, no matter what their reputation or behavior indicated, and if he had a girlfriend I would expect him to be with her and only her unless the relationship had been established as “open” from the start. But that’s just me.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:29 pm

@merlins mum
I can’t come to these posts anymore with getting Zac shoved down my throat or Ashley shoved down my throat. how that is fair?

Heyy!!! Comment number 628 who are you???? Don’t dopplegang!

@Haters Suck!: but you’re wrong lol i am a fan. because im not supporting you doesn’t mean im against vanessa. you’ve gone about this is the wrong direction. because people were saying personal and mean stuff all you had to say was “look i find it offensive the way that you have spoken to me as i haven’t spoken to you in such a way”. guranteed you’ll get an apology thats why i dont like to get rude to anyone on here because 1. its not nice and 2. you can start something you cant finish. :) i promise you i am a fan and i know you’ll call me a liar, but thats okay :)

@Merlin’s Mum: i am…? did i say i wasn’t lol :S im so tired right now haha doing all this coursework is killing me.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:34 pm

@A: It’s me!@samsam: I don”t think he thinks anyone can be a fan but him!!

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:34 pm

Youre no fan youre just as big a hater as a is. And I did tell them that stuff was offensive. They didn’t care.

@Haters Suck!: HS, @A is trying to push your buttons. @Nutcase too. Don’t give them the satisfaction. @A is nothing to Vanessa. She is a just a sad girl that sits in her pink room all day posting nasty comments while she writes fanfiction about Zac and Ashley Tisdale. She obviously has not life whatsoever and lives in a fantasy world rather than the real world. I’m sure Vanessa could care less about her..she doesn’t exist to her.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:38 pm

@merlins mum
Why do I have to stand for personal insults and Zac and Ashley being shoved down my throat in these posts? I ask again how is that fair?

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:38 pm

Seriously becoming worried about@Haters Suck!: . I don’t think he knows what he is saying now. Calm down,man. Other people are allowed to be fans of VH too.

@Haters Suck!: well then just leave them to it. sometimes we just have to ignore their comments even though we personally think their wrong. but they also think they are right too so everyone is fighting. i still can’t believe that you have these magical powers that can sense that im a hater. freaky sh*t right there lol.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:39 pm

@merlins mum
Screw you.

@HS you sound like such a nutjob… I know you know that this person has been here several times. She’s asked me politely not to say mean things about Vanessa before, tried to coax me by giving Ashley a little boost or calling them equals. She takes a different approach than you do and that makes her a “hater?” LOL. You’ve officially lost it. Turning against your own kind in your savage, foaming from the mouth rage. Oh you.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:41 pm

You’re a hater the only person you’re telling to shut up is me. Not the haters. You just did it again by saying let the haters get away with everything and just shut up and take it that’s basically what you said. The haters can say whatever they want but I can’t.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:41 pm

@Haters Suck!: You are very good at dishing them out but you can’t take it? CALM DOWN! You are making yourself look crazy. Insults directed at Vanessa, no matter how much you disike hem, shouldn’t be taken so personally. Calm down before you give yourself a heart attack!

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:42 pm

@merlins mum
No bull I want an answer to my question don’t skate around it.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:45 pm

Scr.ew me too

Calm down he didn’t sleep with her, he wasn’t in the market for a disease or worst. But he treated her the way he did because he could. She CALLED and wouldn’t take no for an answer so he said that to get rid of her. She just laughed because she seemed to think if he had sex with her it would mean something. He wouldn’t have risked hurting his girl like that. We live in a small town and they have been together since sophomore year.I’m not against my own sex but if you act like a **** you will be treated like a ****. Doing something private between you and your bf, is one thing. (If the HACKER hadn’t put them online we wouldn’t be having this discussion) Plastering pictures of yourself on twitter with multiple men(while in a relationship) is an entirely different thing. If you put yourself out as easy, people will believe your easy.

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 3:47 pm

@Haters Suck!: You are the one so intent on personal insults. You are the main reason that I don’t come on here so much. Calling me a ***** and telling me to go die. I still say, how do insults towards Vanessa really affect you? All I ever used to ask you was for proof of thr crap that you were so fond of spouting. If you don’t like what others are saying, do what I did and keep away! But calm down. This is doing you no good and I’m sure that Vanessa doesn’t give a stuff what people say about her on here, so why should it upset you so much?

@Haters Suck!: i didn’t tell you to shut up you’re basically putting words in my mouth. i said that somebody has to back down and you took it that it was aimed at you which i thought was weird because i was more aiming it at the “haters” but you told me to “shut up”. do you know how many disputes i have had with A (lol she can agree)? they are not always negative but we do bump heads at some point, heck read a couple of comments further up and you’ll see i questioned something she said. aww can i say you really do sound adorable. like i actually feel like a parent when their kid said “but they started it! why aren’t you telling them off?” you are suppose to represent vanessa fans. that is why sometimes its better to say “okay you win”and give others the satisfaction they crave cuz they need it more. you are better than this.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:53 pm

I will not back down. That’s what you haters want so this becomes a place for you to continue hating Vanessa.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 3:54 pm

@merlins mum
I never told you to go die but I know you wish I would die. And again you’ve ignored the question. I’m used to that by now.

@Haters Suck!: have you heard me hate on vanessa on this post? because im not backing you im automatically a hater?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:02 pm

Pretty much You’re working well on the side of the haters to try and Shut me up and get me to leave

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 4:03 pm

@Haters Suck!: What is the question then, as I’m finding it hard to understand you. And you have told me to drop dead before now. I would not wish that you would die, and seriously, your behaviour is becoming very worrying.

@Haters Suck!: i dont want you to leave. heck im enjoying this conversation with you :) keep talking or whatever but you still didn’t answer my first question. have you heard me hate on vanessa on this post

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:06 pm

@merlins mum
For a third time. Why is it fair that Vanessa posts have basically become Zac and Ashley posts? Why do I have to stand for Zac and Ashley being shoved down my throat each time I come here? Justify that?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:09 pm

You’ve been on the haters side this whole time you praise them and admonish me. Sounds like a hater to me

Well the hacker DID post the pics online if he didn’t we wouldn’t ever know that Vanessa has always been a s.lut and even if he didn’t Vanessa’s behavior is enough for people to judge her.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:10 pm

@merlins mum
Drop dead is a figure of speech. It doesn’t literally mean I want a person to drop dead.

@Haters Suck!: yet again you have ignored my question. have you heard me hate on vanessa on this post?

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 4:14 pm

@Haters Suck!: There is no way to justify that, but if you didn’t respond or use them as examples as to why Vanessa is better off now, or doing better than others now. It’s give and take. If people like you and Tina don’t throw hate in the direction of the A and Z fans, some people may back off.

i love how the fight how now diverted from ashley v vanessa fans to vanessa v vanessa fans

When you become a mother, come back and tell me about how you sat down and talked to your children. My children are not my friends they look to their father and me for guidance. Sorry but our house is not a democracy. We don’t sit around and discuss rules. They are already in place. I got all over him for talking to the girl that way but in the end, my 17 year old isn’t responsible for her lack self esteem nor is he a psychiatrist. I trust in the way they have been brought up to know what they are capable of. He could have at that point called the rest of the football team and let them know she was open for business, he didn’t. He didn’t sleep with her but I can bet the next guy she called did.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:18 pm

Since Tina left the only V fan I see here is me. Never seen u.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:20 pm

@merlins mum
with you people its all take. No one brings a or z up till you people come and you just expect everyone to take it and shut up

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 4:24 pm

@Haters Suck!: I am not one of ‘you’ people. I have been avoiding this place because of the crazy ass way some people on here behave. I am seriously worried about you. your behaviour on here is becoming incredibly insane. Calm down and step away.

@HS dude give up already. You and b.itchy is just grasping on straws right now. Who the f.uck is Vanessa to you anyway. Sure she don’t give a $hit if you stand up for her or not. Calm down you aren’t going to get that chick. Ever

So, we’re going for a world where if someone commits a crime, we attack the victim? Good to know.

@haters suck

if you scroll down you will see my response to Bo a while back when she said that vanessa wasn’t taking her career seriously. i defended vanessa

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 4:35 pm

@tina: Umm? Wanna explain that post? Makes no sense?

Ask whatever letter of the alphabet about his/her comment.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:42 pm

@merlns mum
I know how much u hate Vanessa so by u being here in the frost place makes you one of those people.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:44 pm

@samsam wow u gave bo a real slap on the wrist there I’m impressed. Not

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 4:49 pm

@Haters Suck!: actually, I realised recently that it is not Vanessa that I dislike so much, yeah it is true that I don’t think that she is that talented, but that does not mean I hate her. It is crazy hatefilled fans like yourself that I dislike. you do nothing but drive others away from the person that you claim to idolise.

@Haters Suck!: lol what do you want from me. its like no one else is a fan but you. at first i thought this was all a trick but you really are serious. well, im going to bed, im pretty tired (i live in london) but i will see you tomorrow you know why? because its the spring breakers trailer premiere and im frickin excited :) byee :)

Please b.itchy don’t act like someone made her take naked pics of herself while posing provocatively. She did take them herself and send them to whoever she sent it to. You are trying to make her out to be this innocent little baby who didn’t know what she was doing. She was 16 and she knew what she was doing and half the fault is hers.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:51 pm

@merlins mum
You don’t like me yet you keep coming to see me. Whatever.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 4:52 pm

Please you don’t fool me.

I am going to take my 8 hour sleep now.

Do you know a good way to avoid all her “hate filled” fans? Stay the hel l off her post.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 4:53 pm

@samsam: You are totally cool, even though we may not agree much of the time. I can sense your frustration with hatersuck. He was key in the evolution of the progressive trolling by us on these posts. I was much like you at one time. HS deals in absolutes. Either for him or against, beef jerky or rare beef, bomb the hell out of iraq or throw hands in the air and give up, A’s at school or F’s so might as well get F’s… you get the picture

Merlin's Mum @ 01/16/2013 at 4:55 pm

@Haters Suck!: if you direct a post at me, Surely you expect me to respond?

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 4:56 pm

@Merlin’s Mum: You’re cool too, but now Hatersuck will lump us all together. My apologies.

@tina I believe that all mothers owe it to their sons to teach them to respect all women and not to objectify them. I’m not saying I hold you responsible for what he said, as at seventeen he has peers and media and plenty of others influencing him. But by bragging about it here you are justifying it, and what really disturbed me was him saying that when he in fact already had a girlfriend who was innocent in the whole thing. If my boyfriend told a girl he would f*uck her, I’d leave him all the time in the world to do it, by which I mean, I’d leave HIM.

@nightwish you have mail!

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 5:04 pm

Hatersuck, you are such a stupid narrow minded doofus. I can’t believe how you harrass other legitimate fans of Vanessa on her own posts, where they are coming to support her just like you are. Pudgie should kick you out of her fan club, take your card and privileges away. What a disgrace.

@nightwish it just shows how selfish he is. It isn’t about Vanessa, it’s about him. If samsam isn’t supporting him, then how can she support Vanessa when he sees himself as the greatest Vanessa supporter of all? I’ve noticed her presence on previous Vanessa threads as a fan and if he hasn’t then again it’s only because he’s paying attention to those who are acknowledging him.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 5:11 pm

@merlins mum
I didn’t direct a comment at you did I? You came at me first.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 5:12 pm

@tina: You would defend Hatersucks behavior? To me or A, fine, i understand. But to Samsam? She is actually sweet and quite fair. At least she has no malice behind her words.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 5:13 pm

You’re a two faces hateful jackass. The fact that you endorse samsam makes me even more sure they’re no Vanessa fan. The only fan other than me I see is Tina.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 5:15 pm

Fair??? You call samsam fair? Of couse you do all they did was support the haters and tell me to let you be hateful. That’s fair to you.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 5:15 pm

@A: maybe he has narcissistic personality disorder in addition to his other hangups. This is a new popular trend on Hudgens threads btw, psychoanalyzing people in the other camp LOL

@HS I also have recognized morethanwords as being fair and reasonable. We’ve had civil conversations on other topics even. Do you condemn her now too? If I tell you that I love America will you turn your back on your own country? Because a “hateful” person like me loves it so it can’t be a nation that supports what you hold dear? You see what I mean? Where does it end?

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 5:20 pm

@A: God forbid you turn out to be a chick, he’ll forsake females for the rest of his days. Uh-oh…

Give it UP @ 01/16/2013 at 5:22 pm

@Nightwish: @A: Don’t you f. ucking people have other things to do except spend all day here on the thread? Holy f. uckballs! Give it a rest already!

Give it UP @ 01/16/2013 at 5:24 pm

Holy f. uckballs these idiots R Annoying!!!!

@nightwish I wouldn’t say me being female has turned him. He’s probably asexual anyway. That’s what you call it when the only person you have sex with is yourself right?

Sorry but by the time a boy turns seventeen he knows the girl you bring home and the girl who gets ‘smashed’ just a fact of life. If you don’t respect yourself no one will. First she called him, knowing he was dating someone else. Secondly, he tried to get rid of her but she wouldn’t hang up. Third, she thought it was a joke because she believed no one would turn her down.
Since he has been with the same girl since sophomore year, who attends our church and we know her parents. I don’t worry about his morals. Hers were provided by her parents. Like I said not his place to offer her counseling.
When did the law pass where we aren’t allowed to do things in the privacy of our own homes? I want to know because I missed that vote. By your reasoning anything anyone does can be posted online and it would be their fault for having a life. Are you 6?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 5:30 pm

You have no problem profiling me do you?
I do pretty much stand against everything you stand for anyway.

Give it UP @ 01/16/2013 at 5:31 pm

@A: That’s what you call it when the only person you have sex with is yourself right?

Well you would be the expert on that bi. tches!

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 5:35 pm

@Give it UP: Sorry. Just tryin to reform someone who needs help. It’s our Kantian duty you know, we have an obligation to our fellowman. Or here, i’ll throw you a bone – “Vanessa looks gorgeous. Wow. Just wow.”

I wasn’t bragging just pointing out guys have ZERO respect for girls who sleep around.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 5:39 pm

That exactly what you think and why I don’t like you. Vanessa fans are “stupid” and can’t “think” for ourselves. So you’ve made it your job to covert all Vanessa fans against her cause much like A you feel she deserves no fans. You’re a joke.

Vanessa just completed another photoshoot, this one for paper magazine.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 5:52 pm

@Haters Suck!: Wrong. Here are my honest opinions. Bohji writes wonderfully, she has a fantastic heart, and i feel this way even though she cant stand me. Maria? Smart, expressive, pretty for her age no doubt. Tina, tough, devoted, a good mom no doubt with a tough attitude, and i would love to have her on my side through life. Morethanwords? Like a described above. I recognize these qualities even though they all despise me because i’m realistic and honest about things. You are another story.

@tina If I were dating him and found at he had told that girl he’d “smash” her, I’d be pissed and I’d dump him. The mature thing to do is to tell her that he has a girlfriend and has no interest in her. When she didn’t listen, he should have hung up, and blocked her number if contact persisted. Then he should have immediately informed his girlfriend of what happened to avoid argument from miscommunication later on. Not that hard.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 5:57 pm

@Haters Suck!: In other words, i don’t hate any of these lovely ladies just because they dont agree with my opinion. I see their value in the world. We all have value, but i wouldnt see myself getting much more than a pack of gum by trading you in.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 5:57 pm

“Realistic” and “honest” that’s how you would describe your trashing of Vanessa and her fans? Wow just wow

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 5:59 pm

I wouldn’t trust u with a pack of gum. Knowing you you’d spit it at me.

But @tina how do you know who sleeps around? I certainly don’t so please stop insinuating that because it’s hurtful. And Ashley doesn’t either, she’s a one man girl, she has boyfriends and it’s not the same thing as sleeping around if you break up with one guy and later start to date another.

Just how mature do you think a seventeen year old boy is? My initial reaction was to ground him forever. Then I realized he did what he felt he had to to get rid of her. You can bet if he had been kind to her the next day in school she would have made sure his gf knew. Like I said we live in a small town. She could hardly brag to her friends about what he said to her, could she?

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 6:09 pm

@Haters Suck!: Are you really just about 4 years younger than i am? Scratch the middle aged speculation then. Can you try not to be a sulking goon for once and cheer up?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 6:11 pm

Can you not be a complete jackass and leave Vanessa alone for once?

@tina I just don’t agree with how he handled the situation but that’s just my opinion. No need to argue about it forever. Telling her to leave him the hel! alone would have been fine. No need to be nice. Telling her he’d f*uck her, well that sounds like he would f*uck her.

Sorry, I believe you about yourself but at almost thirty to be going from man to man like that is not a good thing. Hopefully this one will last more than a few months. She’s becoming the next Taylor Swift.

Oh, and he said ‘smash’ he would never use the f word in my house.

@tina Ashley is 27. In her twenties. She’s four boyfriends in the past 7 years. That’s nothing. That’s not sleeping around. Those are commitments. Two of those relationships lasted for years. Martin didn’t. He was a rebound. Plenty of girls have a rebound at some point. And we’ll have to wait and see where she goes with French. It’s a budding romance. I just can’t imagine how you would look at that history and think wh*ore.

semantics. Doesn’t matter what word was used as long as the intention behind the word was the same.

@tina don’t compare Ashley to T Swift. One’s beautiful, sweet, genuine, honest, likeable, talented, a decent lyricist and singer, smart, mature, and healthy looking. The other’s Taylor Swift.

But three of them have been in the last year, again not good.

Ask your friend what are the causes of a PID.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 6:28 pm

@A: Taylor’s creepy and now everyone is on to her ruse. Its not right that she uses guys to subject matter her lyrics at their expense.

@tina Sometimes sh!t doesn’t work out. Martin carried over from 2011 to 2012. She tried again with Scott and she can’t help that he screwed her over again. Months later she found Christopher French. A year is a long time. Why try to force a relationship just to make it last longer if it’s not working? Why deny yourself happiness again because somebody’s going to say it’s too soon?

@nightwish yes, always writing a song about every guy you date and identifying who it’s about is incredibly immature. She’s also a terrible lyricist. And her voice is like nails on a chalk board. She thinks everyone’s jealous of her, and talks about how she had no friends in high school but I’m guessing that’s just because she was an annoying rich brat. You shouldn’t date John Mayer and then whine when he’s a douchebag. I mean duh. She should know better, and she tries to play the naive card, but she’s in her twenties now and too old for that. She looks like a giraffe. She has squishy small eyes and big horse teeth and poodle hair. Oh and she’s anorexic and it’s gross. She’s actually like my least favorite celebrity because I dislike her on a humanistic level lol.

Same could be said to justify Taylor’s many men. Three this year no way around that. Like I said not good for a woman approahing thirty. As I said before hopefully this one will last at least till her birthday.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 6:37 pm

@A: Some things are meant to stay between each other. It’s worse enough if a guy or girl goes whining on FB about their recent breakup and dumps baggage on the other, but to get immortalized in a song? She is scary because her demeanor belies her inner mind.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 6:38 pm

Hatersuck, would you be so kind as to opine Taylor Swift? Positive comments are welcome too. Is she pretty?

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 6:52 pm

No I would not like to opine

True to form the firestarters had to call me out. No dice, ain’t taking the bait.
@ Trevor, I hope you know now that this is a game to these two trolls. I think Haters Suck has more right to be here than the others. Given he’s like a bull in a china shop. At least he is not two faced. The hitting below the belt was warranted by the egging on from the 2 stooges. You get what you dish out so deal with it.
@ Merlin mom, you’re a Zac fan and you’re a mother . I may not share the same opinion as HS but do you have to come here on Vanessa’s threads to look for some excitement and perpetuate the unnecessary. Hate?. I suggest you stick to your idol’s threads like I do mine. I personally have no quarrel with you nor your idol. Have a good day/ evening. I believe you’re from England or Scotland.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 7:45 pm

Again getting crap I don’t want shoved down my throat. But let’s remember who the bad guy is, me.

Wow. Just wow. I can’t even believe what went on here today. C’mon, children. Let’s take a breather. HS is very justified in his defense of Vanessa and himself. He is a fan, is in the proper place to “opine” about her, and he was literally attacked by all of you, who are here for questionable reasons. I get Nightwish and A’s reasons. Even BO. But Merlin? She really has no reason to be here. There was no trash talking of Efron going on, so why her Zac-hate radar was up, I have no idea. But it was full-on attack of a fan here, and you all need to chill. He is zealous in his defense, and I can’t blame him. Look at some of the things you all say. If you said those things in a school with an anti-bullying policy, you’d be suspended and then expelled for repeated violations. From her hair, to her cheekbones, to her chin, her breasts, her arms, her stomach, her legs, her mother, her teen mistake, her affection for her BF, her sister, her career, her voice, her work. That is the short list of the things you tear into her about. Pretty sad, isn’t it? I wish you could hear yourselves. We just defend her from your petty, self-righteous criticisms, and often need to resort to ripping into Tisdale, because of the professions of her perfection and taunting comparisons. Which I hate, because she is not relevant here with us Vanessa fans. She is Vanessa’s friend, and I believe Vanessa values that friendship for many reasons. I would truly like to have a conversation about various issues, without the name-calling, vulgarities, and insulting comments about each other.

Having said that, I am not a Swift fan either, and her ratting out her exes in song is just the epitome of immaturity. It’s one thing to have subject matter to write her songs, but it’s another to reveal who the subject is. It’s just so tacky and classless. On a side note, it’s one of the things I thought was great after Vanessa and Efron split. They never talked about what happened, which shows how much they respected each other. You’ll never see either one of them writing a song.

Haters Suck! @ 01/16/2013 at 7:50 pm

You always got my back. Thank you so much.

@maria but what do you have to say about Haters Suck calling nightwish’s leukemia battling mother a hooker more than once??? And did you see how haters suck told that samsam person they couldn’t be a Vanessa fan, that she was a hater, because she said that everyone in the argument should stop? Wasn’t that ridiculous?

yo give your BO a h.ooray !!! hip hip h.ooray!!! i got suk something’s age correct .i said he’s in his twenties , didn’t i ? yohho .i can analyse people over the net !!!! yaaaa!!!,.

Nightwish @ 01/16/2013 at 7:58 pm

@maria: And how do you account for his behavior with supportive fans of Hudgie on this thread who he lashes out at, just because they’re concerned about his behavior? I feel sorry for samsam and merlins mum. Please talk some sense into him.