The Whole Pitt and Caboodle

oh my God, i can believed how cute Brad looks holding his baby girl

Good Lord! Look how Zahara is yummy and glowing with puffy jaws.
Look at the nearly matching or identical hats of Brad and Zahara!
In the end! Thumps Up! The Fatherly duties of Brad is rewarding and enduring.

GO! BAMZ

Damn, if only someone knew where to find Brad's hat.... i HAVE to have that!! Anyone??

Those pictures of Angelina and the plane are from Feb 15th. They're old

Wonder how long b4 Tasha and Mina come here?

Hi All! This is my first brangelina POST! Im writting in because my local papers wrote some intersting stuffs about the brangelina relationship abt who wears the pants in the relationship. Here goes: " ..More recently, look at BP, come to heel at the shirttails of AG, clearly the dominant one in that relationship.
It may be hackneyed, but it's also natural for bosses and leaders to go home and hv the wife take charge.
It's the relief of getting out of the work shoes and into the house slippers.
Nothing to do with social role and position. A married man happily surrenders control to the woman of the house, often taking pride in the jest, "She's the boss".
And when it's a couple who've been joined at the hips for decades, in particular a powerful man who knows adversity and enemies, his wife is the only one he can trust.
Which makes hes a very powerful woman indeed.
And a very romantic notion at that."

Wonder how long b4 Tasha and Mina come here?
Anonymous | February 28, 2006 05:50 AM

That is funny! And let's see what negative comments they can come up about a family returning from a shopping trip.

TazSingapore,

Thanks for your interesting comment. In Japan, it is thought to be a male-dominant society but in reality it is the housewives who control the finance and decisions in the house. Quite a duality in the society.

I personally find it endearing should Brad defer to Angie for the major decisions. It shows himself to be a supremely confident man to allow the woman the reins in the relationship. I'm certain Brad has areas of the relationship where he is in control.

More power to the power couple!

They just look adorable...
Brad and Angie look gorgeous.
Now, all of you haters, come here and say it that they look awful.

BAMZ+1 RULES

BAMZ is too much cutes!!! But Angie and Brad always has the same black clothes, I shall like seeing Angie with a dress!!
Zahara and Maddox is very adorable

I LOVE BRAD & AMZ +! !!! SO dang cute . Brad is looking like he is HAPPY to be back with his brood. What an awesonme guy! CUTE CUTE CUTE!!

Hi, I'm new here and I'm along time BAMZ's fan, thanks Jared for the beautiful pics of BAMZ. I love coming here for pics. Dad Brad and his lil girl are so cute!

Team Aniston! Don't waste your time on BAZM.
Get ready! On your marks! Get set! Go with a tumble.
Jennifer’s ex flat mate is about to spill the bean with her novel called “Jane”.
The first extract is:
Jane was obsessed with her looks especially her nose “which came from the Greek half”
Give BAMZ a break and start flexing your jaw muscles to battle it out with the skeletons of Saint Jennifer that were hidden her closet.

Link for the above comment on Saint Jennifer:

http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0,,50001-1213552,00.html

Great pictures! Cute one of Brad picking up the bottle. I, too, have a baby and I am constantly picking up baby bottles. Sometimes my baby likes to tease me and throws the bottle away on purpose. He's a little prankster that just likes to see Mommy picking up his mess.

As far as who wears the pants in the family - did you notice they both wear pants - literally? :) But I have to say that speaking from experience when I was pregnant, I tended to favor pants because they were more comfortable for me. Angie looks good in a dress, and I'm sure once the baby is born, she will feel like dressing up more again.

Back to the subject at hand, Brad and Angelina are truly people that have their own minds, but I believe that they are both happy letting the other take the reins in the relationship. They are both very equal in everything, in the face of Hollywood, and in the face of real life. Some pictures, you see Brad leading the family unit and in others, you see Angie. They are only competitive with each other in good fun and in good humor. Brad supports Angie when she is working and Angie supports Brad when he is working. When I say support, I mean in the context that they visit each others' sets and make the time to be together. They really are a true family now.

Brad looks happy, and if Angie looks a bit too tired, please remember that she is in her last trimester. Those last few months are always the toughest!

I agree that the haters will be coming in soon and make it a point to say something bad. People like those make up their mind as soon as they wake up every morning to see the negativity of everything in life, and transcend it to the lives of others. I personally wish to say to the regulars, keep posting those beautiful long posts about Brad and Angie. It's what I come here to read, and I make every effort to ignore and "skip over" the haters.

Have a great day everyone. Bring it on BAMZ fans! Here we go.

i like his hat.

How can you tell she looks tired? She has sunglasses on. I think she looks great.

I love how people think Angelina runs the show. Very funny. She's pregnant isn't she? HA

Looks like Brad is wearing a sling to carry baby Z! I think men LOVE wearing babies and it's a great bonding experience. My husband wore Baby Bjorn everywhere for both of my kids, even inside the house! Men can wear them longer as they get bigger---I had to switch to stroller but he wanted to keep Baby Bjorn as long as he could. Brad is LOVING this, I tell you!

As for haters who come here, there is no other reason to spew hate on something so benign as family photos, but their own issues and personal problems. So yes, I also skip reading them as it's a waste of time.

Those kids are just darling and clearly content. I love seeing this family out and about. However, I would like to see more tender moments between B and A. (even though its really none of our business) Cant help it.........I want to see it all. I love em.

LOVElY PICS> THANNNNNKS ..JARED.
WE WILL ALWAYS be YOUR SUPPORTERS.(BAMZ)

Talking about their roles in the relationship, do u guys know why brad is suddenly interested in world affairs?

I don't think that AJ will be happy with BP. I think he is selfish and can't make her happy. I think she needs a lot more love than BP could give to her. That's why JA is far more suitable for him, because she's as selfish and cold as him.

I'm sorry, don't get me wrong, I really like them, but these pics are not newsworthy - nothing interesting at all. I'd wish they just leave them alone for a while.

Brad's always been involved in a lot of political subjects. He went to South Africa for Bono's DATA group long before he meet Angelina. The difference now is that he met someone who shared his beliefs, wants to help and isn't afraid of going to any of these places. I's empowering for both of them I'm sure

hey guys i would just like to say how great it is to come on a BAMZ page and not have any haters!... so far anyway. i think that we should just ignore the brangelina bashers when they come running there mouths in these posts. do you all agree? if we do not respond to their hatefullness then we will not have to stoop to their level. this is obviously a genuine couple and a genuine family and i wish them all the best. this is no pulicity stunt. this is their life and i wish people would see that and accept it. PLus the kids are extra cute too!!
anyways cya guys
with love from australia
k.c

You can see the pap in the reflection of Brad's sunglasses. As much as I love looking at pictures of them it has to be absolutley annoying.

In reference to Brad and world issues. It's true, he's always been involved in causes. With the exception of China/Tibet and South Africa he just hadn't visited many of these places. Now he has someone who'll ride through the desert with him with her papoose strapped to her back and think nothing of it. Sexy actually

The pics are great of BAMZ. I love this family.

Angelina did an interview years ago and when asked the type of man she was looking for she said someone fearless, who'll ride through the desert like Lawrence of Arabia. I think she found him.

Love the pics JJ. Brangelina look great with their kids.

The pictures may not be interesting but it's interesting as a picture of the mundane part of their lives. Even we, ordinary common folks, wonder what celebrities do during their off time and if they do the same things common folks do. The answer is YES.

They actually shop as a family. It shows outside of the bodyguard, the driver and some of their expensive spending, they don't behave too differently from commoners. They don't run around like most of the superstars with their entourages doing everything for them.

So the pictures, though dull (cause you know we would much prefer to see the family having fun and being affectionate with each other) do shine a light on the ordinary phase of their lives.

Brad Pitt can play any part in a movie, anon. He is wrapping of the JJ movie. Brad looks hot.

They look like a loving family. BAMZ4LIFE.

Whenever they have the kids they have Mickey on security with them but when they're together they don't have anyone. It's good to see Brad like that. He told Diane Sawyer during the O12 interview with the cast he hadn't been in a grocery store in 10 yrs. and was sick of living his life up on a gated hill. Look at him now. You can't help but feel really happiness for the both of them. Those children are so loved.

? Any part of any movie? I think the comparison was to a man who had character like Lawrence of Arabia.

He's done with J.J. that was completed in Dec. He must be holding out for re-shoots with the hair unless he really likes it.

wow Angelina looks so beautiful and Brad looks the hottest he has for ages. Peope can keep on hating on this couple all they like but the truth is everyone is interested in them. Every bog site that posts their pictures gets the most comments than any other post. People claim to hate them yet spend alot of time commenting on this family. Jennifer Anniston seems cool and I love Vince but they will never get the attention and love BAMZ gets. Does anyone log on to see pictures of VV and Anniston? Are the papparazi being paid thousands for their pictures?
Pagesix had a sighting yesterday of BP and AJ lookalikes being mobbed in hotel in NYC. Mobbed and it wasn''t the real thing! I can't wait till they go to their first movie premiere. Its gonna be madness, and they will look so hot. People keep hating on Brad but that guy are pulled off ever hair colour and facial hair so far and he's 42!
Im waiting for the BAMZ haters to hate. Keep it coming...cause you're still giving attention to them either way...lolololol.

I think it's cute that the Jolie-Pitt family have graduated to a van in Paris. I usually saw them in SUVs and trucks.

Just something cute I noticed - the van they are utilizing now for transportation purposes looks like the one they were driving in Mr and Mrs Smith. Love those sliding doors!

Yeah I noticed that Mickey is usually around only when Brad and/or Angie have the kids with them. As high profile stars, it's a good precaution to have security for their children's sake even when France is relatively safer than the States (don't think the good ol' USA didn't have our racial riots!).

Vans are great for a growing family and it's better in fuel efficiency than SUVs.

It's been said that everyone has a right to their opinion and this is true but for the one new to JJ site and those posting "Anonymous"...why invite negative comments? Why challenge someone to come here to start negative posting. I'm starting to believe you enjoy this stuff. As it's been said we regulars come for some good communication, not to trash wives or ex-wives, talk about our lives in parellel to theirs etc.

I'm thinking you new comers want this site to be the next PerezHilton.com-second edition site. If so...go somewhere else with that trash.

I love JustJared, can we not give credence to those negative Angelina, Brad or Jen posts. If we make this sight into some sort of slugfest. Then it would just be another PH site. Hopefully if those posters do not get the attention they are looking for they will move on.

Just Jared in my opinion is a very classy place to be, and lets all try and be civil.

They need something like in Europe because of the car sizes over there. No big ass Dodge flatbed trucks Brad. heh, they went to Mickey D's.

But yeah those pictures of Angelina and the plane are from February 15th. I think Splash just released their set late last week which is what is seen here

Thanks Jared !!! BAMZ+1 is so cool. That is family time in Paris. Z looks so cute .

That's the thing Me again. It's posters who didn't like the positive comments from another site UK based that linked JJ so they could all come in post sh*t! They want to turn into a PH or DListed site.

Good god that man looks beautiful , they are such a cool family.
Jared as always you rock, thank you for the new pictures..
cheers.

Le Marché FRANPRIX !! lool

Oh.. non j'y crois pas !! :p

annon | February 28, 2006 05:49 AM

I'm so glad someone else realized this. For some reason NewsCom posted them yesterday, but if you read the descript at the bottom, it tells that they were from 2/15.

jpf

Dee | February 28, 2006 06:07 AM

"Now, all of you haters, come here and say it that they look awful. "

Why Dee why?! Now they WILL. lol

jpf

I am not a hater... I love to see people in love but come on!!! He cheated on his wife, knocked up his girlfriend and I am supposed to be impressed. Get divorced...get married and than get pregnant. These people live in a world of no morals... I wish them the best but he DEFINETLY fell a few pegs in my book... and please AJ, lets just say her life has been very colored and WILL she be happy with one person? OR MAN!! I know she has done awesome nobel work!! She deserevs a million kuddos for it. I just hope this will last for these kids sake now!!!

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/newspol/celeb/cfeat/articles/0,,528719_688779,00.html

Interesting article above

It is kinda sad that I keep on coming to Jared just to look at BAMZ+1 photos. Love those photos!!

It has been said before but I'll say it again. JUST IGNORE THE NEGATIVE POSTS. Haters don't want to engage in a healthy debate. They want to hate. Let it roll off your backs.

TazSingapore | February 28, 2006 05:55 AM

I actually read something along this line regarding Jolie-Pitt and I wish I could find it again. Anyway, it basically said the same thing, and that BP shouldn't be considered subserviant, that he actually likes AJ's taking charge/the lead in some area's of their relationship. He doesn't have the machismo attitude of some who feel the need to be the king of the castle, and ruler of the home. The article said that they were two strong take charge personalities, and there would be times when they did butt heads, but this is where communication is very important, and that they seem to have that covered.

jpf

jpf

Brad is a DILF! Had to say it. :)

Noone has said 1 bad thing and your talking about them saying bad thins.. They have a right to there opinion, but there not saying to much.

Jared, you are the man!!! Thanks for posting beautiful pictures of the Pitt family. This is the only reason why I check out this blog everyday! :)

love BAMZ. they really makes my day! well done, just jared!

Ok. Is it just me or is Z looking more and more like Angelina? Check out those big eyes and lips.

I think it is official that Zahara is the cutest baby ever....

I am surprised Angelina is still flying...I am not saying she is a bad mother so don't go getting all hysterical on me but she is pretty far along to be doing that I think.

HAHA he looks pissed at the paparazzi.

Angelina is so fugly on the inside.

Does Zahara EVER smile????????!!!!!!!!!

I remember reading in separate interviews that Brad wanted 7 kids and Angie wanted 6 or 7 kids as well. They're gonna need to buy a school bus to cart all those kids around. Good for them. The more the merrier.

TazSingapore | February 28, 2006 07:27 AM

TazSingapore | February 28, 2006 07:27 AM

I don't think it's been a sudden interest, but one that has steadily grown, but I don't know what planted the seed. Some think he didn't become involved in humaniterian issues until he met Angelina, but I think he "internally" started to feel a pull towards doing more long before, and I think it really first came out via Bono's introducing him to some issues, and asking him for his assistance with them, and which he gave.

From there he become part of the campaign to end poverty "ONE". He's made trips to Africa, and produced the documentary about that followed the journey of the 3 young men forced to leave their wartorn homeland that went on to win first prize at this year's Sundance. Of course since he HAS been with Angelina, he's shared in helping where some of the causes she champions, but I suspect he's got some special one's he feels just as compelled to lend his time, money & voice to.

jpf

I love these pictures. The man looks at ease and content with his new role. He has always said that having a little girl would be special for him. I'm glad he went out there to make his dream come true.

I am surprised Angelina is still flying...........angelina is crazy and imprudent

Yeah for the cheaters who are such humanitarians. Let's pat them on the back. Good job at lying to the media and your fans.

thanks jared for the bamz+1 pix. love this family!

sorry jared but the date of the pics angelina flying is 15/02/06

I just love this family.I hope they do not let the haters and the paps. get to them.Brad looks much better with AJ than with JA. After seeing Brad blond most of his life , people do not like him with dark hair,but I think he look great.

DILF n da House!!!! The man is like a fine wine he keeps getting better with age.

OMG!!!

These are such great pictures! Thank you Jared. I'm glad to see them doing family things. Brad looks so happy and relaxed. Angie looks a bit peeved though. But who can blame her...the paps are all over them.

I read in Allure 2004 that Angie said her ideal man would be a man who'd just come home tired from work but still had time to change a diaper. She said she just fall over for him, or a man in a wrinkle suit holding a baby.

I guess she got her wish. He's definitely holding the baby.

I wish them all the luck.

I think the only problems the haters actually have with this family is that Brad did not choose to have children with someone that believed in having only BLOND HAIR, BLUE EYE CHILDREN, and I think that maybe why they are so disgusted with the whole picture of this family.Instead of seeing people from different backgrounds that needed a family unit and found each other.

Part of me wishes they would go to the Oscars. I know its not important to them (at least this year) but could you imagine the chaos. All cameras would be pointed at them and all the pages of the mags would be filled with Brangelina and not the other actors.

i hate angelina ,brad and jenn together were the best so so beautiful and in love.. brad is hot but the dark hair is terrible

Me Again! | February 28, 2006 08:10 AM

I have to agree to a point. Where is this invite/challenge from Jolie-Pitt family fans to those who aren't fans to come in and fight coming from?! Why is baiting going on, and it is baiting when some keep wondering outloud when the "haters" are going to show up etc. What's up with that?

jpf

Lajollagirl,
its useless. whatever you might say tha doesnt suit brangelina fans and its not always positive, you get dissed in here.

try to hang on and dont get too much involved in the "us and the haters". we are not in high school anymore

any guesses as to when the jolie-pitts will do their first sit down interview? the ratings would go thru the roof. my guess is a couple of months after the baby is born.

Lovely pics, JJ. This family has all the love in the world. Love them.

I love coming here to see the beautiful pictures of the BAMZ !!!

What are they going to tell us in the interview. How they cheated?

Jared must be obsessed with Brangelina to post so many photos.

Angie, looks like she's not in a good mood.....

Cute pictures.Brangelina lovers should stop hating on Jennifer Aniston and vice-versa,it's so 2005.The fact that you can even say you hate or or love them is so ridiculous when you don't even know them.I like them,they seem nice,but love them?I love my children,my husband,not celebrities I don't know,they don't give a rats about me or you.

Thanks Jared for the pictures. I always come here for my Brangelina fix.

No, it was Jennifer Aniston who LIED--about wanting babies ( too late now), about how she treats friends ( look what she did to her not so rich friends!) and continually attack BP and AJ through her million interviews????? This is a ruthless , superficial woman who is facing her own karma now!

nice picture , adoring family.
brad's look more at ease, a life totally different from the past. from red carpet, spa, party, shopping .... to a dotting dad and normal family life. great job Brad

True - Brad always looks content with the kids...never with jolie - she always looks peeved when they're together. She adopts kids to fill the void she feels from her own relationship with her father. She herself said that her UN work and adoption helps her heal...She's probably getting more and more peeved about the fact the her 'therapeutic' kids are now migrating towards brad more than her. They probably cry to be with him.

why so many pics with brad happy and ate as with the kids?? where are the pictures of just brad and jolie together happy and madly in love? Could it be that the onyl glue between them is the fact they want kids? is that enough to keep a mariage or partnership together?

oops...typo above..mant to say..why so many pics with brad happy and at ease with the kids?? - and no pics of just brad and ange in love and happy together....obviously their mutual desire to build an kid empire is the only glue that keeps them together. sorry - ain't enough to build a solid relationship.

Brad and Angelina must be so very happy to have found each other. Happiness is sometimes where you least expect it.

I'm totally in agreement that Brad is definitely a DILF! There is nothing hotter than a man who is totally into his family and a hands-on father.

Thank you Jared for all the BAMZ pics - I don't bother to look anywhere else because you've got them all before anyone else.

Angie said in Vanity Fair last year that if she met a man who was good with her kids - well that would be it for her - she'd be done. Again, we concur she has gotten her wish and Brad his for a family.

I'm so happy for them both.

Happiness in someone's husband, ah yes. BRAD is still IN SHOCK from his DIVORCE. very sad, not enough time to move on but he loves kids, so that should help.

Thanks JJ for wonderful pics! I too come to this site to get my Jolie-Pitt crew fix! Z looks adorable with Daddy!

As far as seeing Brad and Angie showing PDA those will be few and far between beacuse as far as these people are concerned they will be hell bent on not making the same mistakes about their personal lives as they have done in their previous relationships. Remember they still have not announced that they are even a couple and they are letting the world follow in their footsteps as to guessing what they could be up to next.

Thank you Jared. I just love this site. My day is not complete without coming here and looking at BAMZ+1 pictures. Take care you all and please ignore the haters. Have a blessed day.

jl-
hmmm...so they haven't even admitted they are a couple yet??? Rather pitiful then...to adopt her kids...get her pregnant...and then not even legitimize the kids and themselves as a family??!! BA..be honest for once.

I vomited in my mouth after have read most of your comments/praises/admirations about BP and AJ. It is amazing that you people will congratulate two people who lied to an innocent third party (Jen), yet praised them based upon their physical beauty. Look Ted Bundy was a handsome man, but a murderer nevertheless. You have to look at the people for who they are (adulterers, liars, cheaters, home wreckers), even if they are physically aesthetic.

Come on guys.... he cheated on his wife and knocked up his girlfriend!!! Why are so many hollywood types not marrying before they have kids? AJ... does she like men again?.. this chick flip flops more than John Kerry. I hope for those kids sake this is "true". When you bring kids into the world, or adopt them, you really need to grow up. Hollywod or no hollywood, you know you would all be talking if this was a friend of yours. See past the CELEB and see the true story. Man cheats on wife and knocks up mistress!!! Pooh pooh to you BPAJ!!!

An unathorized trash biograhpy on the notorious home wrecker Angelina Jolie, who works as a Hollywood actress who stars in movies, some of which that can only be described as "soft porn" in nature.

Considering that she broke up the engagement of Billy Bob Thornton, and then went on to break the married union of Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt, it is presumed that this bio will paint her in a most shocking and deplorable light.

Many unflattering photos will be used to depict her as a sex addict, neurotic and immoral woman who seems unable to have a normal relationship with a man, unless he is currently attached.

The book will detail her self mutilation, drug use, shocking promiscuity, lesbian sex, and obsession with sadistic/masochistic sex, along with her notorious sleeping around, and alleged incest with her brother, along with having created a sound proof room with Billy Bob Thornton so they could have sex in which they, or she could "scream".

Also the rumor that she was raped by many of her mothers "boyfriends" will also be investigated and reported upon. All in all, this will be an explosive book and will probably be a best seller with a huge money making possibility. Look for it in the next year.

I am so loving these pictures. Too bad about Angelina's look - she must be sick of being swarmed by the 'razzi. Thanks as usual, Jared!

Angelina's beauty is fake?
http://www.celebrityplasticpics.com/angelinajolie.htm

haters, I know its hard to be happy for people sometimes when there is nothing going on in your life, but these are not people we know personally so get some therapy or get on some medications.I mean that very sincerely. If you have not been treated well by your partner that is something you need to take up with your partner not people who dont know you or even care about you.

saw the ones with brad and Z on E! news and the insider, Z dropped her bottle and brad picked it up for her. I love seeing brad with his little girl , soo cute. By the way I'm loving Z's hats latley.

fake family | February 28, 2006 10:36 AM

I image it'll be a must read for those who find that type of sensationalistic Tab based psuedo journelism worth the price they'll pay to read it.

To be honest, I've been a bit surprised that it's taken them so long to produce a so called tell all. Makes one wonder just what the hold up has been.....lack of interest maybe?

Thanks for the info.

jpf

The reason why Brad left JA and also why JA's own mom wrote that nasty tell all book about her own daughter. The fact is JA is as mean and we have guessed all along . It's been her Publicist trying to cover her sh*t for her all these years ..dropping lies and paying off tabs to write fabulous article about her painting her as some Goddess ...NOT!!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/395025p-334922c.html

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These are the cutest pics, I love them! But it must be difficult for BAMZ to deal with paps, Angie especially looks annoyed.

I hope noone reacts to the haters, they always have the same lame arguments, it's really boring. At least they should invent a new stupid lie just to entertain us LOL.

Can't wait to read that book. I imagine it is taking so long because so many of Angelina's former lovers are coming forward.

Maybe we should suggest the following to AJ and BP to prove that they are in love:

1. AJ photographed straddling Brad on their apartment's balcony
2. Brad appear on Oprah and jump on her couch while declaring his love for AJ.
3. Have their own Reality TV show called NEWLY IN LOVE
4. Brad have "ANGELINA" tattoed on his arm in hindi
5. Put an ad on the newspaper to confirm that they are in love

lajollagirl,

I think this is somethings that really bothers you and I think you should definitely take this up with your family, your priest or your therapist.

Wait till these kids grow up, will there be another "Mommie Dearest?" Most likely.

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The reason why Brad left JA and also why JA's own mom wrote that nasty tell all book about her own daughter. The fact is JA is as mean and we have guessed all along . It's been her Publicist trying to cover her sh*t for her all these years ..dropping lies and paying off tabs to write fabulous article about her painting her as some Goddess ...NOT!!!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/gossip/story/395025p-334922c.html

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Your kidding right? We, haters, need help? If you have a life with no love and no man, or women, than maybe you should stop living through these people. I just hope in your life you are treated like those by AJBP. Than lets see how you feel. Yeah his hat is so cute.yadda yadda... by no means do I hate these two people. I can just see past the CELEB and see what they really are. The two you talk about at the office. They put themselves out there, and take YOUR money... if you are happy to let people live these $$ lives that is you. I just think that these people need to be accountable for their actions... positive or not. They infulence people. SET A BETTER EXAMPLE!!!!

Angie is an admitted bisexual and has had affairs with women. Brad will never be enough for her. Thats simply not something you can change like a pair of shoes. Poor pitt-iful will get his in the end. Karmas a bad, bad thing.

Yes, you haters do need help. We maybe be pathetic for coming this website to see BAMZ+1 photos. That's what fan do. I hate the Beckhams but i never go to any website to look at their photos, read their news or make any negative comment on them. If you don't like or disapprove of AJ and BP, just don't follow their news. And if they are not a good example to you, then make sure you won't be influenced by them. Life is not that complicated. REALLY!!!

I do not know why you oh so moral people are wasting your time beating this horse. Why are you not on the tomcat posts . Aren't you concerned about the child who will be groomed to be the anti-Christ born of the virgin Katie? Oh this has nothing to do with the truth or fairness but a venue to express hate and anger. If you are that concerned about what is going on in other people's relationships, look around there are other things going on in Hollywood that you should really be concerned about.

You are right.. Chao!!!

Those are the luckiest children in the world to have such loving parents. The Jolie-Pitts are the new hollywood IT family. Love em lots.

lajollagirl,

have you actually noticed that people with other thoughts are immediatly haters. always that word.

we are discussing brangelina and we have the right to speak our mind. i just dont see why this should be a devoted couple and something you can be proud of. except for the kids, but the whole mess they created.

they even need the media to make headlines. actually they are old news.

Could this family get any cuter???!! I don't think so!!

Fake Family,thank you for letting me love and want to defend her even more, because if she went through all that without falling to pieces,then she is a lot stronger than I thought.
What exactly is the quality of this person's intent to write such a book,to want to drag her through the mud. I think you are forgetting,that the men who loved her,loved her in spite of her so called past. She is still friends with both ex husbands. Just so you know,they did not leave her,she left them. A life lesson for you "People who live in the past, don't have a future".

*Wow this is low down! *
You forgot another interesting part of the saga between Jennifer and her mum.
Jennifer went on TV and told the world how her mum was a ROT in her life.
Indeed for those of Jennifer’s followers who find pleasure in insulting BAMZ their filthy comments must have something rotten in them selves and family.
The stink and putrefying smell of their disgusting slur speaks volumes of our dreary lives.

I admire Angelina more and more each day. She doesn't wait for life to happen to her she makes life happen. Brad didn't have a chance. He couldn't help but love her.

Hi, this is my first post!! Handsome family for BAMZ!! Thanks for the pics Jared!!

There are ao really mean sick people out there (thats directed at the fake family poster). Best of luck to all of them, Bamz and Jeniifer Anniston. Cause despite whatever we say all these people are living their lives and all seem happy with their new arrangements. Marriages break up everyday and people move on with different relationships EVERY SINGLE DAY! What is so different about these people? We should all just leave them in peace. If any of them cared about our opinuions thats exactly what they would want.

They are old news, and yet here you are looking at their photos and reading all about them. Funny, no??

So what if Angelina had a dark past. For you judgemental christian rightist, did you not know that St. Paul was also a sinner before he cane to see the light. Today, Angelina is a great humanitarian giving 1/3 of her salary to charitable causes. She has given US$12 million of her own money in the last 4 years. Why dwell on the past ? Angelina has seen the light and her star is now shining very bright.

Why did my post come up anon 11:13 am? anyway fake family,my primary purpose on this site is DEFENDER.

I admire people with strength, people who face adversities but still come out on top and keep there heads up thats what life is all about. not people who go around complaining and constantly crying about what life has dealt them and looking for people to feel sorry for them if be the source of their strenght. I did not know all that Angelina has gone thru but now I appreciate her more.

In the March 2006 issue of Premiere Magazine, Brad Pitt is ranked the #3 most bankable actor by foreign distributors. This means that he is A-list baby and won't be budging from that list anytime soon. Brangelina 4-eva.

Its nice to know that in the course of the whole day, the paps were really on to them for just a 10 minute period. The time it took to either get into the car or out of the car. Hope they had a fun time when the paps couldnt find them. Though I like looking at their photos, I'm glad there aren't more.

STOP TRASHING THEASE PEOPLE!!!!!
STOP BRINGING UP THEIR PASTS LIKE ITS THE ANSWER TO THE WORLD'S OLDEST QUESTION!!!! GOD!!!

These 3 people are living their lives. Why do you feel the need to try and slander them, insult them and just all around write hateful things about them. What have they ever...ANY OF THEM...done to you personally. One has moved on in her career. One has moved on to the family he wanted and the other has risen above a tumultuous past. Like them fine, Love them fine. But don't be intentionally nasty and hateful about it!!!!

ONE DOES NOT THRIVE AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER!

IF WE AREN'T ALL CAREFUL THIS SITE MAY END UP SHUT DOWN!!!

omg they look like very happay family,brad doing good jobe as dad he try to be best dad to his adopited childern and waiting for his own child & for those who think that angelina is not good for brad this woman make this man dream came ture soo fast by given him chance to be dad to her adopited chillden and change her mand to have her own child and get preagnet form bard i hope they alwazzzzzz be happay like that for ever.

why the people hate so much to angelina, much more that to jenn or brad???

Angelina Jolie long ago made it clear that she wanted loads of kids, but wanted to adopt them all. The sultry star is now pregnant, so what happened? A report hints that she realized she would either have to get pregnant – or risk losing lover Brad Pitt.

"I never planned to have children," she told Nightline interviewer Cynthia McFadden, adding she meant she "never planned to give birth to children."

"She told friends she would never give birth," says a pal.

And Angie soon realized the choice: a biological baby or Brad. "Not having babies was a deal-breaker for him," says her friend.

"Brad wanted to have his own kids, and she had to make a decision.”

The rest –as they say – is history. Angie is pregnant and Brad is entrenched in her life. Does that mean the couple will live happily ever after?

Time will tell.

Has Jennifer never had a broken relationship before she met Brad?
Is Brad and Jennifer the only divorced couple in the world?
Are we going to crown Jennifer and Vince living Saints?
Are some people (haters) who throw abusive jibes at Brad and Angelina with no knowledge of the actual truth of what happened between Brad and Jennifer just ignorant and menace?
Sorry! No matter whatever abuses, haters hurl at BAMZ, nothing is going to change their (BAMZ) happiness.
Hater! You all could do better by concentrating your acclamation of good wishes and sing praises to “Saint Jennifer of Cry me Rivers of Tears”, Saint Vince of “The break Up” world as you all move downhill keeping your DOOM misery to your selves.

THOSE ARE THE CUTEST PICS EVER!!!!!! BRAD LOOKS LIKE SUCH A GREAT DAD AND HIS DAUGHTER IS CUTE.

Jennifer is a boring turd. That being said, I still think Angelina and PittShit are pr whores. Angelina is useing Brad, and I'm glad that she is. Angelina is a pimp, and Brad is her BITCH. Go Angie, work that bitch.

Okay RICA,

It's 11am CST and no Fic yet...what's up girl. We seriously need to get together to discuss a clean script for me or my very talented daughter. I just don't know how to send you my personal info over the net.

Well until we figure it out...I'll be waiting for the next installment of BA FanFic.

"Angelina Jolie long ago made it clear that she wanted loads of kids, but wanted to adopt them all. The sultry star is now pregnant, so what happened? A report hints that she realized she would either have to get pregnant – or risk losing lover Brad Pitt."

Here we go again!!! In real life, people change their mind all the time. Britney said she was going to remain a virgin till her wedding night. Do you believe that she actually a virgin until she married that loser?

nobody crowns vaughniffer as king and queen.
god, king and queen of what?

and i am sure not the one that wants to quit jj because of the fans calling people like me haters.
i don`t hate them. that would be too much of an effort. if i hate something, its the action of one person. and i doubt ang are brad are my role models.

see, we are gossiping about people we don`t know personally. so, in the end, we cannot harm them really. but we talk to each other in here, more or less, and express so much anger, that this affects directly a person.

again, let people think about brangelina and gossip, but stop calling others names. that has an impact.

Those pics of her nose job! I thought she was a natural beauty but look at all the other people who have had work done too. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, never thunk it. Angie looks have improved much since the nose job so it's all good.

Mina, If Brad and Angie are old news what are you doing posting on a blog about them? I have never looked at a blog post about Jennifer let alone read and write a post, simply because I do not have any interest in her life or career.
I do not believe Angelina or Brad is perfect, they like all of us, must have their issues and try to deal with it on a regular basis. I am most impressed with Angie because she let all her faults and craziness hang out for all to see and judge. But she has evolved and became the woman I know her mom must be proud of.

Yo do not have to like Angie and Brad, but you can still dislike her without the name calling. When a woman calls another woman a whore just to be mean, it diminshes all of us. I know some of you will go to your grave believing they cheated inspite of mountain of evidence to say they didn't, but that is your choice. Being vulgar and disrespectful is more abour you than it is about them. I, for one think they have handled this whole thing as classy and graceful as any body else. Let us agree to disagree.

Oh my gosh! Aren't they such a cute famly?

The topic about who wears the pants in the family? Most of the times it's "us" females, in my house it's me for the most part. However, if there's some big expenses like property or a car then he and I would both discussed it, Nevertheless, He is still the "Padre de Familia" in the house, that in the end who really takes care of the family. Just a thought.

And here Mina again. BAMZ+1 might be old news to her but she sure come more for it.

It's not okay to call others names but it is okay to call BP and AJ names just b'coz some people would like to express their OPINION?

Where is the tone of this blog heading? Is it too much to ask,out of respect to Jared and the regular posters,to state your displeasure with this couple without taking it to a gutter level. I discovered this site in Nov. and have been posting for about three months and what kept me here was the level of maturity and intelligence of the posters. Brad and Angie are admired without tearing down Anistn,as a matter of fact she hardly comes up,unless one of the anti BAMZ+1 posters bring her up. She is never demeaned or drag through the mud. God,as much as my politics is liberal,and I am an advocate for free speech,I am also an advocate for decency,Good God people can we keep,the Bitch,Whore,Skank comments out of our conversation,if not out of respect for Jared,out of respect for yourselves,if you have any that is.

I wonder why JJ does not post any photos/news item of JA lately? Please JJ post some JA photos so that BAMZ bashers may have their own little corner to post and leave BAMZ in peace.

This website is for everyone is it not? People are too serious. They are not friends of yours or you do not know them, just people we do not know thay we say stupid, inane or funny things about. PSssssssssst..this is what this website is all about. We dont need to be attacking each other.

I find myself loving the pictures less and less everytime I see them.I think people should just leave them alone.I was so happy about them being together,i'm still happy for them,but the shock and the thrill has passed.I think the only reason people like them or hate them so much is because they are so gorgeous.If it was less attractive and popular celebrities,you know you would'nt give a &$%*.I feel people are getting obssessed,and I find it sad.I f you really want to show your love and support for Brad and Angelina why don't you support one of their causes,give,show your love, instead of spending all your free time looking at pictures,do something more constructive with your life and your time,it's the best way to show your support don't you think?But we all know you won't.

I just cant get enough of this family. I know Brad is the happiest man on the planet. Go BAMZ

i didnt understand. who said whore?
are you refering to me?

IPPINK, I heard on another board that Brad, Ang, and a few other stars like Maddonna, wear all black, because when the pappziis take pictures, they all look the same, therefore loseing value.

And the winner for Hollywood‘s word of the year is "Brokeback," thanks to all the talk around the water cooler and Internet jokes that have turned a film about two gay cowboys into a cultural phenomenon.
In second place was "Brangelina," the hybrid name given to Brad Pitt Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie Angelina Jolie as Hollywood‘s hottest new couple. They beat out "TomKat," bestowed on Tom Cruise Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes Katie Holmes and "Vincifer," a hardly used term referring to Jennifer Aniston Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughn Vince Vaughn.

OK . why you people who don't like Angelina and Brad come here to post.

Seems like BPAJ lovers only have superficial things to say:' What a cute family', 'love that hat', 'they make a gorgeous couple', etc etc etc. Where is ANYTHING that would constitutes a REAL devoted and loving couple??? If you take the kids out of the picture, they would be history. The wild sex can keep them together for a while...but can get old. Especially for ANge who is problably LUSTING to have a taste of her lesbian lovers again. Poor ol' Braddy...

Got this off another blog. Best quote of all time:

When Vince Vaughn finally dumps her, Jennifer Aniston will spend her remaining days cruising Hollywood looking for street kids who look like Brad Pitt so she can pay them to stroke her hair while she pushes her baby doll around in a stroller. Then she will die alone, penniless and insane.

Aniston haters are just funnier than Brangelina haters.

cause we gossip.
that's about it.

GOOSSSIIIPPP.
doesn't hurt and won't kill brangelina and co.

OK, I AM A HUGE BRANGELINA FAN BUT I JUST HAVE A FEW "UNBRANGELINA" COMMENTS TO MAKE:

1) I DON'T THINK ANGELINA SHOULD BE FLYING OR PILOTING AT THIS STAGE IN HER PREGNANCY. I FIND THIS DANGEROUS AND IRRESPONSIBLE. I WISH SHE WOULD STOP FLYING AND MANNING HER AIRPLANES.
2) WHY DID BRAD GIVE ZAHARA THE BOTTLE AFTER IT FELL ON THE FLOOR - GERMS! HE SHOULD OF KNOWN BETTER.
3) ZAHARA IS A PRETTY GIRL BUT IN THIESE PICTURES SHE DOES NOT LOOK TOO GOOD. WHY CAN'T THEY DRESS HER IN MORE COLORFUL OUTFITS LIKE A LITTLE GIRL? AND I DON'T LIKE THAT UGLY HAT FOR HER.
4) WHYS IS ZAHARA STILL NOT WALKING? IS THIS A CONCERN?

THAT'S ALL FOLKS. AND BEFORE YOU ATTACK ME, I AM THE BIGGEST BRANGELINA FAN. THAT IS WHY I AM CONCERNED ABOUT SOME THINGS THEY DO.

THANKS.

OMG...I love this family. Brad is a natural with the kids. Z is adorable.

The reason the term 'brangelina' is so popular is that people can't wait to witness every step of their doomed collapse as a couple - a relationship based only on sex, good looks and wanting a kingdom of kids!. She ain't the subdued, demure, loving moter and 'wife' people make her out to be. No one can change that drastically in such a short period of time!!! She will explode into her old sleazy, whore-ish ways again - just wait and see!!

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 12:26 PM

Who cares!!!!!

If you don't like to read the comments of the BAMZ supporter, then simply don't read it! Instead of you spewing your negativity comments, why not support the one you like? Get my drift? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going to say, everybody has opinion, but...you are making it harder for your self. Because, I sense that you don't like what you are reading, then why do it?

I see the mental patients have been let loose again. Whoever mentioned this about Aniston what she actually said was her mother was her last disease she needed to rid herself of. Who talks like that about a parent. Even as bad as Angie's relationship has been with her father Jon Voight she's never spoken of him like this. That's just one misrable person Aniston who can't get out of her own way. Also, there are tons of pictures of Brad and Angelina, laughing, joking, looking at each other, kissing, holding hands and having a good time.

Do you haters have recess about now?

Not Chinnifer Brokeback Fan,
Where do you see Brad giving Z the bottle after it fell to the ground. The pictures don't show that and the pictures I saw on tv last night don't show that. On the Insider you see a picture of the bottle in Brad's left pocket of his coat.

Just because you don't see pictures of Z walking doesn't mean she's not walking. I'm confused by your statement.

I think Z looks darn cute and I adore what her parents dress her in. Its all subjective

Finally, if you don't want to fly a plane while pregnant then I suggest you don't. Angelina is a big girl who can make her own decisions.

I'm not trying to be snarky with my answers and just to lazy to use smilies.

Those pictures are old of the plane and from Feb 15th!!!!!

WHY DID BRAD GIVE ZAHARA THE BOTTLE AFTER IT FELL ON THE FLOOR - GERMS! HE SHOULD OF KNOWN BETTER......that did not happen,brad didnt give the bottle to zahara...Z dropped her bottled and brad picked it up for her and puts it in him pocket

http://forum.souliejolie.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=24792

This rabid Aniston fans are bored. Look, even the paparazzi's aren't even interested in Aniston. Her fans have nothing to discuss and/or look at so they have to come here.

That driver is funny. In pics he's always got his eye on Maddox, making sure he's okay.

Is this an Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt Web site or fan club? If not, why don't you make one and then you can "allow" only supporters of them and no one else. Isn't this an open site for everyone wheter you like them or not. Who cares? Do't take it so personally.

12:38, Doctors state as a fact that women should not fly in the trimester that Angelina is in. So it is dangerous and I think careless.

Also, we see the bottle drop on the floor and then we see pictures of Zahara drinking from the bottle in the car. The bottle dropped before they got in the car.

I just think Zahara is a beautiful African girl and they should dress her in beautiful African colors like the beautiful Ethiopians do - why that ugly hat? Maybe Angelina should hire Oprah's hairdresser to do Zahara's hair instead of that hat. Brangelina can afford it.

LMAO. I sound like broken record but seriously how mentally instable are Aniston's fans?!?! They're going to have an aneurysm

I agree! I feel so sorry for Ange...this faithful, clean role of a devoted mother and devoted girlfriend is a bunch of crap. She is a good actress and can pull it off for a while - but this new ROLE MUST BE GETTING OLD ! I for one used to think good things about her UN involvement. But now I see her as such a FAKE...I could never take her seriously as an 'ambassador' ever again!

Hello, mental patients. She dropped the bottle, he picked it up, put it in his pocket then walked around the car and then entered the apartment. He did not give the child the bottle.

Secondly, there is no reason for a pregnant woman not to fly in the third trimester. The only time the MD tells you not to is if you have medical problems and/or are going for long distances. Plus, it's the airlines who don't want this because they don't want the risk of someone going into labor while in flight. Get a grip!

HA, LOL, this board is turning into the perez hilton board.

i like mabz, thanks jared

"The wild sex can keep them together for a while...but can get old. Especially for ANge who is problably LUSTING to have a taste of her lesbian lovers again. Poor ol' Braddy..."

Then, that's Brad problem isn't it? Life is full of risk. If you are afraid of failing, you will miss a lot of things in this life. Even if they are lovey dovey like TC and KH, you might say it's PR stunt anyway.

Not a Chinnifer Fan,
The bottle dropped when they were getting out of the car. I taped both Insider and E last night and if I could show them to you, I would. Also, unfortunately kids put a lot of disgusting things in their mouths, a dirty nipple won't kill them. Yuck, I know.

sam | February 28, 2006 12:22 PM

Is that really necessary? Just because you're anti Jennifer doesn't mean BAMZ fans want to see your rather vile message. It's really nasty, and uncalled for.

Oh here they come...the hard core lesbo's who are pissed that she's with a man and having his baby. Yeah, unh huh...Angie's lesbian lovers, ONE woman who's more man then woman anyway and that was YEARS ago. Doesn't wash. Angie loves Penis!

These people are so pathetic. Can you imagine how empty their own lives must be to have to fill it up with hatred towards people and children they don't even know? This is why laws were written and enforced. Nutcases

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 12:52 PM

weeeeeeeeeellllllllll...missy....you want a vile message??? i ain't started yet???

wanna read about it???

if u dont'....then go away you nasty little whore/bitch!! and shut the fucked up!!

take that to your grave!! moron!!

OK FINE. IF YOU SAY HE DID NOT GIVE HER THE BOTTLE, THEN I AM GLAD. I KNOW THEY ARE NEW AT THIS PARENTING THING AND DON'T WANT THEM TO MAKE ANY "BRITNEY SPEARS" MISTAKES.

I JUST DON'T THINK SHE SHOULD BE FLYING EVEN IF DOCTORS SAY IT IS OK. I WOULD NEVER FLY IN MY LAST TRIMESTER. I MEAN THE BABY IS TWO MONTHS AWAY FROM BEING BORN!

WOW, I THINK THIS BABY'S BIRTH WILL BE LIKE A NATIONAL HOLIDAY. CAN'T YOU SEE THE BLOGS???

OH AND ONE MORE THING, CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS - WHY DO SOME AMERICANS BELIEVE CHINNIFER IS GOOD LOOKING? SERIOUSLY, WHY IS THAT? ANYONE HAVE ANY GOOD EXPLANATIONS?

I WAS LOOKING AT OLD HOLLYWOOD PHOTOS OF THE FIFTIES AND CHINNIFER WOULD OF NEVER HAVE MADE IT AS A STAR BACK THEN.. BUT ANGELINA ON THE OTHER HAND LOOKS LIKE A YOUNG SOPHIA LOREN SO HER LOOK IS TOTAL HOLLYWOOD GLAMOUR.

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN | February 28, 2006 12:45 PM

How narrowminded and uninformed you are. Why would you even suggest that Oprah's hairdresser be brought on board for the childs hair. How dare you stereotype like that. How ignorant of you! Someones black, so they automatically require some special hairstylist to fix them?! And yes, the child is Ethopian, and so you think she should be dressed up and paraded like some Madame Alexander doll come to life. You have pissed me off so much with your ignorance, and I hope you get a clue, and soon.

Why do they think she's good looking? Because she's got the best paid PR person in the business Stephen Huvane. He got her cleaned up, made blonde, body worked on and oh yeah she was married to Brad Pitt which meant highly paid image consultants for the red carpet.

"Me Again" I always post the fic on Brad and the NYC thread. Too much traffic here.

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN He did not give the child the bottle............please..........The bottle dropped when they were getting out of the car he picked it up and put it in his pocket

THIS IS A BAMZ+1 THREAD!!! SO IF YOU CAN'T MENTALLY FUNCTION AND WRITE A MATURE AND NO NASTY COMMENT...THEN YOUR 1 CENTS IS APPRECIATED...IF NOT...SAM THE PITBULL WILL BITE YOUR ASS!!

BEWARE BAMZ+1 HATERS...WE HAVE PITBULLS HERE WHO WILL GUARD AND PROTECT BAMZ+1 FAMILY!!!

BAMZ+1 ROCKS 4EVA & EVA!!

12;59. This people are disturbed and hide behind their anonymity of their computers with that type of vile bilge. They might as well be white supremists, members of the nazi party or the kkk

Don't bother buttercup, they don't care and they sure aren't listening.

12:59pm: I DID NOT FEEL THE NEED TO DIVULGE THIS INFORMATION BUT I AM BLACK, BY THE WAY AND WE BLACK WOMEN CELEBRATE OUR CHILDREN'S SKIN COLOR BY WEARING VERY VIVID COLORS. WHEN BLACK WOMEN WERE YOUNG IN MY MOTHER'S DAY, THEY WERE TOLD TO WEAR NEUTRAL COLORS TO DOWN PLAY THEIR DARK SKIN. AFTER THE BLACK EMPOWERMENT MOVEMENT, BLACK WOMEN STARTED WEARING NATURAL HAIR STYLES AND WEARING ORANGE, REDS AND LOUD AND COLORFUL HUES THAT BROUGHT THEIR BEAUTIFUL SKIN COLOR TO THE FOREFRONT.

I THINK IF ANGELINA HAS A BLACK DAUGHTER SHE NEEDS TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE TRADITIONS.

THE HAIR THING IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR BLACK WOMEN. I GREW UP AROUND A LOT OF UPPERCLASS WHITES AND I WENT TO EXCLUSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOLS. I HAD TO DRIVE AN HOUR TO FIND SOMEONE WHO KNEW HOW TO DO MY HAIR. ANGELINA MAY LEARN THIS HERSELF OTHERWISE SHE WILL NEED A HAIRDRESSER LIKE OPRAH'S.

I HOPE THIS SLIGHT GLITCH DOES NOT DETER WHITE PEOPLE FROM ADOPTING LITTLE BLACK GIRLS THOUGH. IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL. IT IS JUST A QUESTION OF KNOWING WHERE ALL THE BLACK SERVICES ARE. AND IN MY TOWN THERE WERE NONE.

SO, DON'T CALL ME IGNORANT- I KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS ISSUE THAN YOU OBVIOUSLY DO. YOU'RE THE IGNORANT ONE!

Give me a break. She can dress her child in any colored clothes she wants to. And if it's one thing Angelina has proven is that she cherishes her children's birth cultures so, don't go there

sam | February 28, 2006 12:56 PM

What are you trying to prove, and to whom? I'm a Brangelina fan, and I don't get your need to express yourself to the point of disrespecting everyone, unless of course your aim IS to disrespect everyone.

What is the big deal about Zahara dropping her baby bottle and Brad picking it up and placing it on his left back pocket?

So, what next, the baby bottle wasn't covered? For goodness sake, there are far more dirty things that baby picked up other than a "dropped or uncovered bottle." Most babies, eat their own boogers, eat food leftover food on the floors and more. So, if some of you are implying of hygiene, don't worry most babies are just fine.

BAMZ ARE RHE BEST FAMILY I LOVE THEM BRAD LOOKS SO HOT...

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN | February 28, 2006 01:09 PM

I'm black, and I'm also the author of the post :

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 12:59 PM

And I meant every word, and you have issue to numerous to explore here. Plus, why are you screaming? I think you can be just as confused in lower case as you can in upper.

1:13pm: You're the one who started disrespecting me by calling me ignorant. Read your post again! Are you experiencing AMnesia??

Anyway, this is so typical of some Brangelina fans. Once we can just pretend these kids are little dolls then all is fine. The minute we put them in some social context then everyone goes berserk. I know Angelina is very progressive. Probalby the most progressive Hollywood starlet however just adopting kids of other races is not the only thing - one must adopt their cultures as well. As a matter of fact, Angelina says that she is awaiting for Zahara to introduce her to Africa when she becomes a woman (so clearly Angelina is awware this is important). I am simply saying she needs to do something about the clothes. My husband is white and when we have kids they will be dressed very ethnically not like the little WASPY kids we live near. (My hubby is a WASP himself but now has tatoos and bleached blonde hair). I am just brutally honest. Sorry not all Brangelina fans are saints.

The majority of these types of posts is to cause chaos, get the blog posts shut down so they don't have to read positive comments about BAMZ. They're just coming in here posting racists, hateful comments to get a rise out of everyone. It's a means to an end for them. They crazier the posts the more traffic and headaches until the comment sections get closed. Then they think they will have achieved the objective.

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN:

Your comments are very interesting. I am an African American woman but I am far from insulted. However be very careful with the comments you make regarding culture and race.

angelina has been known to embrace her children's cultures, so I doubt Zahara or Maddox will grow up with an identity issue. As far as her hair is concerned, I'm sure Angelina will take care of that as well. Either learning to care for her hair or hiring someone to do it. Z's cloths are the hieght of fashion and very cute. I'm sure she has some "African" cloths as you call them but maybe she hasn't worn them yet or maybe she doesn't. What matters is that she is loved and taught her heritage. And I believe that Angelina will definitely open Zahara to all of it.

1:20...it's the context of your comments which are like orders. Let Angelina and Brad worry about their own children and you worry about yours.

1:17: I THINK IT IS HILARIOUS THAT YOU ARE BLACK TOO. GO MY SISTER! HEY, LET ME TELL YOU I AM SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE. WHITE KIDS IN THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS I WENT TO USED TO TEASE ME SOOOO MUCH. THEY PULLED MY HAIR AND CALLED ME NAMES. I AM JUST SAYING ANGELINA WILL HAVE TO FIND A BLACK HAIRDRESSER AND BLACK CULTURAL THINGS FOR ZAHARA OTHERWISE, FORGET IT. BUT THEN AGAIN, MAYBE MILLIONAIRE KIDS ARE EXCEMPT FROM SUCH TEASING.

OF COURSE, THE REAL REVENGE IS NOW I AM MARRIED TO THIS GORGEOUS HUNK OF A WASP MAN AND ALL THE GIRLS I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ARE SOOOO JEAULOUS OF ME. FUNNY HOW THINGS SWITCH. YOU'RE RIGHT 1:17, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT THE PLACE TO DISCUSS AN ISSUE THAT BRINGS UP WAY TOO MUCH COMPLEX TOPICS.

TAKE CARE!

1:21PM, HEY I ALSO FIND IT FUNNY THAT THE MOMENT PEOPLE HEAR THE WORDS RACE & CULTURE IN A POST - THEY THINK YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE KKK AS ALUDED BY SOME PEOPLE ABOVE. ANYWAY, GOOD LUCK TO YOU 1:21 - I LIKE YOU!

To I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN:
What is the point of your post? I am an Nigerian born and raised there until I was 10, I have a 8 year old daugther who I love very much and very proud to teach her about our African Heritage. I dreass my kids in what ever I choose to dress them in. Z is not your kid and Agelina can dress Z in anything she wants. She is in a darm if she does and darm if she doesn't situation. If she embrasses the African culture for Zahara then she would seem like she is a prentender, so what the F@@K. It is Zahara that will have to embrase her heritage when she is ready to. As will both know she will know taht she is different than any of her brother and sister and I think that when the time comesAngelina, Brad and Maddox will help her find WHO she want's to be. You can embrase your culture without broadcasting, that to me feels like you are trying to prove something. We are all Black proud African Women without wearing Dashiky outfits all the time. personally I wear my African heritage proudly by who I am not what I wear. As for colour I thought everyone would know that PAPS get paid a whole lot less when they can't put a date to a picture. they are trying to leave a normal life for god's sake not broadcasting whta they wore last thursaday when they went to Mcdonalds. So please enough with the whole African Heritage thing, trust me that girl would be in cornroll when her hair grows out and an expenesive on at that too.

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN | February 28, 2006 01:29 PM

I like you too...you're cool peeps!!!

Read the posts please. The kkk references were to the hateful racists thing people are saying about the children and Brad and Angelina because they're white. It's not about hair and/or taking care of black hair.

Sorry about the Typo! darm I should Proff read before I post.

1:35, Oh, ok. Thanks for the enlightened thesis on pride. Sorry I am not as spophisticated as you. Dashiky's huh? Woah sister, ok!

You take care.

RICA , PEACE OUT MY SISTER! Angelina is my soul sister too. I think she has a "black" soul. So does my hubby :)

Peace.

The kkk and nazi post also was in reference to the sheer hate being spewed by some people here. Hatred because of someone's color, race, orientation, love life , children, religion and personal choices are unacceptable in any form. It's one thing to have a discussion, it's another thing spew the kind of crap that's being posted by some on this site. It's wrong on all levels. I don't care if it's a blog site for celeb pictures. It's still venomous hated and should be challenged. Some of these people don't even understand the depth of what they're posting. They thinks it's a laugh, it's not and it's not okay.

1:35 Hey did you hear the Prime Minister of Nigeria was caught recently escaping the country from his opponents dressed in drag?

Wonder if it was Dashiky drag or Westernized drag? These distinctions are important.

1:46pm, I agree with you but I did not see any particular racist comment on this blog. Whoo is it? And if so, ask Jared to delet it. Then again, freedom of speech, I suppose.

I'm sorry that article about Angie's nose being fake proves nothing...take a look at JLo with and without make up and you will see my point...I'm a makeup artist on the side and can tell you that shading does a long way in redefining features.

I'm black too (why don't we all just come out?!LOL) and I"M NOT A CHINNIFER FAN, you sound as if you married your husband to prpve to those teasing highschool girls that you were equal to them ! Lay of the race card and get back to the issue of these lovely BAMZ pics. I am so positive I will bet on my new house that Angie can find and pay a highly qualified person to help her with Z's hair...Oh, I think Angie has black friends too so I'm sure that she can ask them...we don't live closed off anymore....their hair texture is different...angie and brad know that...they'lll figure it out.

ADVICE TO BAMZ...use cornrows, it's the easiest and least time consuming way afor a young child...ciao

Love this family. Z is cut. GO BAMZ+1.

I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUG PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN THIS SILLY CAT AND DOG FIGHT.BUT TO ALL THE MOTHERS,WIFES,GROWN ASS WOMEN PARTICIPATING IN THIS WASTE OF TIME,YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF,GET A CLUE AND A LIFE.GO TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN.

But look again clearly you can see that she had a nose job! Her nose was a lot bigger before and no amount of shading would change it that much.

http://www.celebrityplasticpics.com/angelinajolie.htm

I'm jut saying...

BAMZ fans are talking about what a wonderful 'family' this is and how supportive Brad is as a father. Yet, you bash other people for their "moralistic" views?

It has nothing to do with morality. You simply cant accept the fact that people just dont like Brangelina for many reasons. When someone takes another man or woman like that after they've proclaimed such ethics, it looks fishy. When a woman goes and does what Angelina does, after she tries to act so much like an angel, she's a hypocrite. Plain & simple!

No one likes a person who gets together with someone's spouse just to find a mother or father for them. But the fact that they do not COME OUT with the relationship just goes to show you how sorry this relationship will end up becoming. Their relationship is based on passion, it's fairly obvious looking at last year's events and especially Angelina's past. Relationships that have alot of responsibilities like their's is not so simple to maintain. Brad maybe a monogamous man but looking at his past relationships, like tom Cruise, I don't think it'll last with AJ.

Sure, there are people who get married after such a short time of dating and last a very, very long time. I've witnessed it many times! But those are simple people or people who have had nothing to hide or do not have the same type of pressure that these celebrity couples do. Brangelina are on a different level.

Angelina just does things on the impulse. Example, her marriage to BillyBob after only 3 months of dating. They proclaimed their love for each other and were so into each other and shared so many things. But look what happens, BillyBob leaves her. AND MANY PEOPLE KNEW IT WAS NOT GOING TO LAST. Angelina thought, well how can this happen? Granted Maddox may have had something to do with it, but then how come BillyBob has a new baby now? So, kids arent the issue. It was her and BillyBob expressed that in a serious interview.

And now Angelina's going ahead and doing the same thing with Brad. I think he wont be able to handle it eventually. And I think she's shoving things down his throat. They jumped into this too quickly. The job of Acting is not rocket science. So these actors are just as mindless as we are if not more so, viewing the past history of celebrity couples.

If they loved each other so much, why dont they express it more? Why arent they talking about it?

Granted they have the right idea... that is, share common goals. But dont rush into it, because you dont know how those goals will work out, especially as a celebrity.

I thought this would be a good place to jump in. Before I was adopted at the age of 7, I lived mosty on the streets of a 3rd world country. I have been picked because I was too light skinned, too dark skinned. too skinny, too smart, too rich, too poor, too educated etc. I can't tell you how many times I have been called an "Oreo" or "coconut". I learned that people who do not feel good about themselves in a healthy way tend to try to even it out by attempting to bring the other /others down to their level by finding something , anything they they think of to make the other person/persons feel bad about themselves. They pick at wherever is different about the other person. It is not always about color .

I remember when I was about 13. I was in a market in my country of my birth with my adopted Mother. My mother was obviously a different race than I was, blonde, fair , blue eyes... But I thought I looked like I belonged there... same color etc. So, I was shocked when a woman walked by and pinched me! As she pinched me she spat "You dirty American!"

I of course interpreted that very differently than how I understand her action now. What she saw was someone like her who had escaped the poverty and life it brings and the only difference she could judge against me is that I had become an American.

I have learned and I teach my children and others that how a person treats another whether in word or action is a reflection of self. People that feel good about themselves communicate that with how they handle themselves as they interact with others and the world. Respect for oneself and others as well as integrity are two things that cannot be bought only earned. Both are essential for feeling good about yourself and your life. One cannot get that by hate or anger or negativity. Those emotions are like termites on your self esteem. All the anger and hate felt by individuals for Angeline or Brad is not hurting them one bit . For anger and hate for a person is like taking poison and expecting the only person to die. For hate and anger poison one's soul and the soul is where happiness is nourished....

The school of life does offer scholarships. Unfortunately the best lessons come with pain. But if we don't learn from that pain, we are doomed to repeat it until we do it right. If your life is miserable what can you change? The only constant is you so if you want something different for yourself you have to learn to accept accountability for how your life is playing. And learn to make different choices until you get where you want to be.

Look at Beyonce. I liked her better before.

http://www.celebrityplasticpics.com/beyonce.htm

The only way BP could tell if cold-hearted Jen had an orgasm was when she dropped her nail file.

Anonymous 2:18, you are so weird. You're posts are so pathetic.

again about the article on Angie's nose...you would be surprised what I have been able to recreate/modify with makeup.

If you really truly believe that this is going to last, you are a fool. And I feel more sorry for those kids. Having to put up with such a turbulent mother and her relationships. Finding a father or husband is not so simple.

Oh Kayla - lighten up - its just a blog not a literary commentary.

I do need to not be in such a hurry with my typing or at least proof-read. It is anger and fate for a person is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die.

Karen in answer to your questions about PDA between this couple. Tell, when you have very precious and rare do you want to devalue it by sharing with everyone? Or do you only want to share it with those closest to your heart? I am a very passionate/tactile person. But what should only be between two people always remains between two people and not for an audience too.

Billy Bob had kids before angie. He was married and his wife was expecting another when Laura Dern started sleeping with him. Billy Bob did not want to share Angie with anyone , specially a child. Because he did want their sexual life to change. And if you are a mother you know . Motherhood changes a woman. Billy Bob has children with 3-4 women...

PLEASE PEOPLE, HAVE A LITTLE RESPECT FOR THE KIDS. THESE PARENTS HAVE MADE SACRIFICES TO GIVE THESE KIDS THE CHANCES THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE HAD. THESE ARE JUST BEAUTIFUL PICTURES TO LOOK AT. I WONDER WHY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT OTHER VAIN,SHALLOW AND WORDLY THINGS. PEOPLE ARE SO SICK, THEY SHOULD TAKE TIME TO JUDGE THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF OTHER PEOPLE.

we like angelina , i am from europe angelina is so popular here.

How OLD are you people who believe these plastic surgery celebrity face websites? Jen A, AJ, Beyonce, all of them grow and mature and so do their faces! As you get older, your face becomes more defined; your head probably gets bigger looking; your nose a little thinner (because skin tightens) until you get into your 40s and then it starts getting a little bigger cause your skin sags; women can get thinner in their 30s because their hormones change (in puberty hormones cause fat increase) and by then you have figured out your diet change to fit your slower metabolism & aginmg health or you get less hungry; your lips are not as puffy as they were when you were younger and they thin out a little as you get older; and your eyes are not as big and wide eyed as when you were younger; your face is less babyish or puffy as when you were younger and so forth.

Also, with makeup, you can change the contours of your face.

ignore the haters, angelina is beautiful and a good person.

she's popular in asia and australia too.

Tamdem 2:05: No, I married my husband because he is HOT and an incredibly good man. I just think it is funny that now the same girls who teased me are now jeaulous of me. Funny, how tables turned. My husband and I are compatible and are one unit - that is why we married. Please don't judge my marriage, thank you.

ALSO nothing pisses me off more than the term "RACE CARD". I can't believe you, who should know better. used the term. As if race consciousness has some alterior motive - it is a card to be played like some gambling trickery or somehting. How ignorant. There is no "RACE CARD" played here. I was simply saying the white mother of a black child has some cultural ideals to acqaint herself with in order to confirm the child is raised as a self-loving individual.

If I have a child, I will be resonsible for exposing it to its German heritage (my husband's) as well to its black heritage (mine). However, my husband and I will focus on the black heritage more because we know no matter what - our child will be treated as a black person. Halle Berry has said this in many interviews. Halle's mother told her to be proud of being black because that is how the world would view her. And Halle's mom is White.

Tamdem, I find your comment to me ignorant and offensive. So be it, you are entitled to it. Whatever.

i agree with you sharon

Kayla you are so weird - your comments are so pathetic.

zahara is so cute.angelina was still beautiful without make up,natural beauty.

ignore the nasty comments,angelina is beautiful.

Thank you JJ for all the beautiful pictures.

Sharon, too many variables. Come on, you can plainly see that AJ's nose has been altered. I can remember when she was with BBT she looked entirely different. After she left him, her looks improved. That's when she had her nose worked on.

SINCE 2001 ANGELINA HAS REPORTEDLY SPENT $12 MILLION DOLLARS OF HER OWN MONEY TO HELP POOR PEOPLE. SHE HAS GONE ON 30 MISSIONS FOR THE U.N. THESE WOMAN WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. PEOPLE SHOULD STOP FOLLOWING HER AROUND WITH EVIL EYES AND COMMENTS UNLESS YOU WANT TO RECEIVE A DOUBLE PORTION OF THE EVIL YOU WISH HER. EVERYONE HAS A CHANCE TO EVOLVE, SHE HAS DONE HER BEST AS A SINGLE WOMAN AND SHE'S FINALLY GETTING HELP FROM SOMEONE AND WHAT SOME PEOPLE WANT TO WISH HER IS EVIL, PLEASE!

I feel a lot of hostility. I think that it does not do any of you people justice to be so rude and silly. I like the picture but most of the comments just suck.........

Funny no one sees Aniston on any front covers lately......oh except pics snapped of her partying in Sundance - she has so much depth - I wonder why no one is interested anymore??

Look at Halie Berry. You have to admit that it's been done. No amount of make-up would do that.
http://www.celebrityplasticpics.com/halleberry.htm

when I left it was about 136 post ant now 238wowwow

I like Zahara the best! She is the cutest child!!! :)

Sorry but I just see AJ as a total snob. She always has her nose in the air like she's better than everyone else, look at these pictures and you'll see what I mean, because shes more beautiful than anyone. And she thinks she's cool and all men want her. That's why I cant stand her.

They look happy, hopefully they will last longer than most of the Hollywood marriages. Where are some Tom Cruise pictures... that is one strange dude!!! I like to see different opinions but please keep it clean!!

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 03:01 PM

that is not true, she is one of the friendliest/down to earth actress, E!online did a poll this...she was/is # 1 on the list. It's just a picture, it can only capture that moment. Do you ever have pic. of yourself that you did not smile, or look upset, eventhough you were not?....I have, many in fact...beside, these pictures were taking by papz...why would she be smiling for the papz?...

you have to admit that she was raised rich cause of her dad plus she has the looks so many doors were opened for her because of those two things. Those kind of things affect you and go to your head whether you try not to let them or not. I've always seen her as a snob.

I'M NOT A CHINNIFER FAN.

I will judge whatever you say becus that's what we do every day when we chat about these celebs like we know them.

Your initial statement was very ignorant. I mean who in the world says that blacks should wear bright colours? I have never heard of any thing so ludicrous...take it easy...its' a blog. we're all sharing opinions and that's mine of what you said about your personal life (which noone asked for) and race.

as for the race card..it is what it is...we blacks need to get passed that and try to argue something involving mixedr races without drawing out the race card. (I know you're going to have a lot to say about this post!! :))

Rica | February 28, 2006 01:21 PM

Thank you Rica for being calm and diplomatic where I couldn't be. I'm just fed up with people deciding that because Zahara is black, she's required to represent that up and above the obvious. Nobody is making those same requirements for Maddox, and apart from Angelina herself stating that she does now, and will continue to teach him about the culture he was born into, she's made no suggesting that he's being raised to be seen as Cambodian first, and her son second. This assumption that Z's hair will require special attention is a steretype, and for it to come from another person of color bothers me. Bottomline, both kids should first be seen as Angelina's children. Her son & her daughter. We know that she's respectful of each one's heritage, the culture they were birthed into, and the importance of teaching them about it, filling them with pride that it is a part of them, but it is not all of them.

i am with you nancy, bamz rock. she's not snob she's a kind person and friendly actress, down to earth, even going outside with brad she doesn't wear make up. she's natural beauty. angelina is the best .

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 03:01 PM

You don't even know her. How do you know what she "thinks" she is? She can't help it if her nose tilts upward. She carriess herself with her head held high, most likely because this how her mother taught her.

I have had people...including men that I look like a real snotty b*tch when I'm walking around the office or around town. They've told me I look as though I have an attitude or like I might b*tch them out if they say hello. Then they get to know me and say that they would have never thought I could be as crazy as I am.

So having never met Angelina, how would you know whether she's stuck up or not? Most people who have met her say that she's extremely cool and down to earth.

PLEASE!!!!

AJ has a very aloof air...i don't think that means that she's a snob. i really can't understand someone saying that when she has done so much for others and seems to have such compassion for the disenfranchised..?

And when I say aloof i simply mean it as a fact, not an insult...i have been called aloof time and again...when people get to know me, just like Rica, they can';t believe I'm so personable. I accept it. my mother taught me to walk with my back straight, grace and not to look at the ground like i was fearing tripping over my two feet...it's called upbrining, not being a snob.

Anonymous: When your pic is always being snapped by the paps, you don't want to give them a good shot. Why should she smile at their stalkers? Besides, I've seen her smile and she doesn't fake it. She only does it when there's something to smile about.

If she smiled more, I bet you'd say she was being cocky so she just can't win. If you don't like her, you won't even if she does it standing on her head.

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 03:23 PM

"you have to admit that she was raised rich cause of her dad plus she has the looks so many doors were opened for her because of those two things. Those kind of things affect you and go to your head whether you try not to let them or not. I've always seen her as a snob."

That's not really true. AJ, her mom and brother lived a rather "money-tight" existence when her parents split. I just read recently about how they didn't have much money (which I thought weird because of who her dad was) and how the kids teased her about her clothing because they shopped a lot at Goodwill and thrift type stores out of necessity. It seems Jon Voight had a long stretch there where he didn't work, and I assume the mother didn't at all, or at least acting and getting paid.

jpf

she was not raised as being a rick kid, she stated in her biography that's what people expected her when she was a child cause her father was an actor but she told e bighraphy channel they don't have enough money when she was you.

go to www.you tube.com and search angelina jolie you can watch her biography, that's where i knew her well through her interviews, i don't like jolie before but when i saw her interviews , i was amazed by the way she answered the questions.

The fact that you people cant relaize that it's not jennifer fans who dont like what brangelina did shows the lack of brain cells you have and how BLIND you are by your infatuation.

You dont have to "hate" somebody to disapprove of something they did. They may be loved by people in other countries, but it's America you want your real fan base to be at. There are alot of americans who like them, but i am quite sure there alot of people who are not too happy about what angelina and brad did last year. Why else would they HIDE out in Paris?

If you obsessive BAMZ stalkers Can't take the heat on a blog, then create your own fan site and stay there! Why don't you ignore our "hater" comments then?? They're not for you anyway. Everyone else is ignoring your insults. Or they're only just going to insult you back or continuing on insulting Brangelina!

A blog is a discussion group where opposing discussions are rampant. If you want to be childish and insult other posters, you're just going to be ignored.

The insults r only there for u guys to read so you can avoid popping a vein. Everyone is skipping through your insults and continuing to discuss things without throwing mud at people like a couple of psychos. So if you want to insult us, GO AHEAD! We're just going to ignore it and continue our own discussions on these celebrities and the issues these celebrities lives have brought up. And if it continues to bother you, then GOOOOD!

karly, we posted almost the exact same thing at the same time lol.

jpf

he was not raised as being a rich kid, she stated in her biography that's what people expected her when she was a child cause her father was an actor but she told e biography channel they don't have enough money when she was young.

go to www.you tube.com and search angelina jolie you can watch her biography, that's where i knew her well through her interviews, i don't like jolie before but when i saw her interviews , i was amazed by the way she answered the questions.
karly | February 28, 2006 03:33 PM

oh yeah, you know what this anonymous thing i don/t know he was so mean, i don't know what is his problem with jolie.

I AN NOT A CHINNIFER FAN,

Since you are so concerned about Z maintaining her African heritage where were you when she needed to be rescued from Ethiopia, loved and clothed and how many adopted children of diferent races do you have living in your house right now , probably none so when you get them make sure you hire someone "special" to do their hair if you think that is the most inportant thing in the world. Otherwise stop telling Angie how to take care of her own daughter with your hollier than thou comments. (P.S) I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN TOO SO WHAT.

BRAD LOVES............... ANGELINA JOLIE!!! NO MATTER WHAT YOU, NOR I OR EVEN THE MAN IN THE MOON THINKS , SAYS OR POSTS!!

JENNIFER ANISTON AND BRAD ARE OVER !!!! DONE !!! KU PUT !!! BYE BYE !!! DIVORCED !!! FRIED !!! ASHES !!!! JA IS LIVING "HAPPILY" IN HER "CENTER" WITH ANOTHER MAN !!! HIS NAME IS VINCE VAUGHN. JEN LOVES HIM!! SHE WANTS TO MARRY HIM!! SHE WANTS TO
HAVE HIS BABY!!

AND BTW... Those terms whores, sluts, etc. are way out dated.
There was a sexual revolution back in the 60's IN CASE you missed it, and those terms for a women's sexual liberation..( may she enjoy it however she pleases) are pretty passe'. So for all you up tight and angry people who need some liberation I suggest you read Angies Bio coming out and learn a thing or two about being young and expierencing your whole self instead of just believing everything you hear. Experience may teach you a thing or two.

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 03:40 PM

Excellently said!

bamz rock

Well, if it is true that she had to go to thrift stores, then i'm sorry about that. I really do feel bad when you say that her past was somewhat difficult due to money. In a way, you make me want to forgive brangelina because you've now made her more human than she seems. I guess the fact that she's become a UN member is a good accomplishment. I really did not see her in this light. If I had known that she struggled just to live, then I guess I will be more accepting of what she is doing now. I really did not see her that way.

karly, I think Jon Voight was very full of himself, and very self centered, and then when he decided he wanted to be a father, it was like "hey, when I needed you, you didn't have time for me, so now the tables have turned". I think the guy is still selfish, and although I'm sure he loves his daughter, I have wondered if he also loves her fame "if you know what I mean".

jpf

go to www.you tube.com type angelina jolie. i saw her biography.i was amazed too, she was kind and intelligent woman.

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 03:26 PM

Trust me, I completely understand all of your points. I have lhad to learn the 'art' of diplomacy the hard way. I'm a LEO and a woman of color and let me tell you, I knew two settings and two only. Indignantly loud and defensively loud, as I've gotten older I have learn to 'try' and understand where others are coming from. Believe me it's hard.

But I do understand and you're right. Stereotypes are almost as bad as the hateful words, but soemtimes people are just speaking and not really thinking how it may affect others. They don't mean any real harm, so I take it as that and suggest a better way of communicating. I have been face to face with true racism and 'it ain't no joke' these comments here may be spitefule, hateful at times and not completely thought out, but they are no where near having the "N" word slung in your face or painted on your property.

But as both Brad and Angelina seem to have an affinity for Africa, I can only hope that they keep Zahara educated in her homeland and culture.

My mother is half African American and half Cuban. Her father was from Cuba, we don't talk about that part much only the Spanish remains. I wish we had, but that was a sore subject in my grandfather's home. Now he's gone and our family history with him.

Well YADDA YADDA YADDA...i'LL SHUT UP NOW.

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 03:26 PM

Trust me, I completely understand all of your points. I have lhad to learn the 'art' of diplomacy the hard way. I'm a LEO and a woman of color and let me tell you, I knew two settings and two only. Indignantly loud and defensively loud, as I've gotten older I have learn to 'try' and understand where others are coming from. Believe me it's hard.

But I do understand and you're right. Stereotypes are almost as bad as the hateful words, but soemtimes people are just speaking and not really thinking how it may affect others. They don't mean any real harm, so I take it as that and suggest a better way of communicating. I have been face to face with true racism and 'it ain't no joke' these comments here may be spitefule, hateful at times and not completely thought out, but they are no where near having the "N" word slung in your face or painted on your property.

But as both Brad and Angelina seem to have an affinity for Africa, I can only hope that they keep Zahara educated in her homeland and culture.

My mother is half African American and half Cuban. Her father was from Cuba, we don't talk about that part much only the Spanish remains. I wish we had, but that was a sore subject in my grandfather's home. Now he's gone and our family history with him.

Well YADDA YADDA YADDA...i'LL SHUT UP NOW.

TANDEM 3:25: ACTUALLY MUCH TO YOUR CHAGRIN, I AM SURE, I HAVE NO RESPONSE TO YOUR POST. YOU HAVE REVEALED TO ME THE KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE AND I WON'T GIVE YOU THE SATISFACTION OF DEBATING ANY FURTHER WITH YOU. I HAVE FRIENDS, WELL EDUCATED AND QUITE BRIGHT, WHO I DEBATE THESE VERY ISSUES WITH. SOME HAVE WRITTEN WELL RESPECTED ACADEMIC PAPERS ON THESE VERY TOPICS.

WHY ON EARTH WOULD I POSSIBLY ENTERTAIN YOU BY GIVING YOU THE HONOR OF A FURTHER DEBATE?

BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR BRILLIANT ASSESSMENTS.

yes i know what you mean.

Sorry about the double post.

Oh Anonymous I forgot to say...that I still blow up on these threads too from time to time.

i still kie angelina jolie no matter what the haters say.

I agree with a lot of you on the raising Zahara within her culture comments. I think that is what is beautiful about Brangelina, they force us to talk about these important issues. I mean Britney Spears and Kevin Federline or Gwyneth Paltrow and Apple don't force us to look at social issues, right? But Brangelina knew by adopting non-white kids that this will change people's minds on a lot of things.

"I am not Chinnifer Fan" - I agree with you. I also think Angelina is very open to raising kids that are not totally "white-bred" because she wasn't that kind of kid. That is why she is awesome.

Just like Angelina, I would be very proud to adopt a little girl of color - if I could afford it it costs like $20,000 to adopt. Geez! maybe one day.

i still like angelina, no matter what they say.

bamz supporters rock

i am team jolie

team jolie rocks

Angie & Brad will do her best to keep all her children from every culture and country connected. She already bought a home for Maddox in Cambodia. I am sure she will buy one for Z in her mother Africa. They love the world and by the time more kids come along in a rainbow coalition of LOVE I believe they will all be sporting their own individual rags, hairdos , languages, music, cars, foods and dances.

go team jolie go.

To be honest with you guys, nobody knew she struggled with money growing up. That makes her less evil looking now. So, quit your yappin. I can understand why she has made the decisions and actions that she has made in the past now.
I can be forgiving of her with brad because i c her in a different light now. I just thought she was this selfish, ignorant person who did not know certain things about human life & suffering and just goes about stealing other men like a vixen and pretending to be this goodwill ambassador. But I c her differently now and I can understand and be a little more understand of her brangelina relationship.

And by the way, she's not that intelligent. As an actor you can be very good at the way you speak (unlike some BAMZ worhsippers) or it can be due to the way your parents spoke properly. When going into business I had to definitely change the way I spoke and the subject matter/issues I spoke about in order to not sound so young and immature.

bamz supporters rock

Why do fans of Brad and family feel the need to trash Jennifer and the fans of Jennifer need to trash Brad and family. Why can't you just let it go and be a Brad fan or a Jen fan and leave the other out of it. They seem to be doing well on their own of moving on why can't their fans? As for Jennifer's ex roomate she seems to be an absolute loser who's most interesting memories in life are the few months she lived with Jennifer. She doesn't seem to have accomplished much in the last 20 years.

shut up anonymous please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

shut up haters.

Hi, I am Jennifer Aniston and I am ugly. Thanks for listening.

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 03:45 PM

I'm Afro-Cubana too! My father haitian/cuban (euro french, euro spaniard, african), and my mom is italian/african. I just say black for myself and leave it there, I don't like chopping myself up for people although I obviously look like "a salad" lol. My full name is a spanish tongue twister, and I was raised with each culture represented in some form or fashion, and at the end of the day I'm proudly black.

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN | February 28, 2006 03:45 PM

You just did! As expected. Thanks!

Just looking:
I think that is her point. She felt her career was "Derailed" or sabbatoged by what Jennifer did to her. Didn't sound like she was a nice friend

Gag me...what fucking stupid pictures...can we change the subject???? Please?

BAMZ + 1 ( JUST ENJOY THE PICTURES) from outside looking in Brad seems to be the FATHER he allways new he could be.

Jade- I don't think JA really has the power to derail someones career if they actually have talent, especially considering JA was 18 or 19 years old then. I'm sure she did and said some immature things, but didn't we all when we were that age. This girl sounds bitter and jealous that JA has made it to where she is, I don't think JA really has that much power in hollywood.

To jaid 3:40, cn you plaese post the link, aticle, or interview where Brad has said he is in love with Angelina. Thanks

AND WHO prey tell are DICKWIPES?? Perhaps you should use one to clean your mouth with, there is a lot of matter falling out of it or if it is easier for you just shut it up and swallow it !

TANDEM 4:06, OH, I SEE EVEN A RESPONSE NOT SPECIFIC TO THE TOPIC DEBATED BUT ONE ADVISING YOU THAT YOU ARE NOT WORTH RESPONDING TO IS FOR YOU A REPSONSE OFFERING VALIDATION, RIGHT?

I CAN SYMPATHIZE. INSECURITIES LEAD TO EXTREME NEED FOR ATTENTION. I AM HONORED TO HAVE OFFERED YOU THE VALIDATION YOU CRAVE IN MY RESPONSES. HEY, YOU HAVE TO ADMIT, I'S CHEAPER THAN YOU GOING TO THERAPY, ISN'T IT?

HAPPY TO HAVE HELPED.

ALL THE BEST.

THey are all so cute! I just love reading about them and seeing their pictures....I am obssessed! I can't study now......aaaargh!

I just wanted to pop in and say hello to my Bamz loving chicas Elena,Rica,Ange and the rest of you know who you are.I see we have the haters with their usual profanity posting.Thank you Jared for the pictures of this beautiful family.

well, it seems you would like to engage in conversation with someone you don't knwo and shouldn't care one bit about, so let's see...umm, trying to get a rise out of you is a cheap and non-intrusive way to enage in mindless activity during the downtime or breaks at work. Let's just say, keep responding and I will too.

I never get people like you, girl, Just ignore me for gosh sake!

Hi Lou:

I enjoy your posts when you visit. Same to Ricam, Elena and Ange. Ciao

Why can't a Bamz post not contain Jennifer Aniston. Can we all agree not to mention her please? Also, if you don't like Bamz, then why come to this post at all?

PEOPLE GET OVER IT. It's been over a year and people are still harping on the same thing. This is why the world is as crazy as it is, if even celebrity relationships makes people into haters--both for and against Bamz and for and against Jen Aniston. It's crazy.

Tandem, McDonald's gives a lot of breaks, don't they? Explains the long lines.....

4:26pm. Hi, I am Jennifer Aniston and I am ugly. Thanks.

Hey lou!!!!
Glad you popped in. I'm on my way out. I'll check back later. If I don't talk you and the girlz (you all know who you are) have a good one!!!!

Jared, thanks for the cute pictures of the BAMZ family.

To All The BAMZ+1 fans/supporters, have a great day!

Jaime | February 28, 2006 04:08 PM

The subject is the pictures, and I would think that was obvious prior to clicking on the "more pictures" which of course leaves you here.

Just Looking:
I agree. The book Nancy B is promoting seems to be a book on Hollywood and probably never did have much talent, perhaps she is trying to make some $. Bringing up JA's name got her exactly where she knew it would, so she's not dumb. It would be all speculation but JA publicist did report today that JA did live with her although it wasn't rent free. So there could be some truth to it. I guess the JA fans can let us kniow since they seem to know everything. I personally don't feel anyway about JA except I wish people would let her move on and just be happy.

Rica and Lou:

What is this some kind of twisted sorority? "You are my girls, etc"? How sick. You don't even know each other! I won't come back to these posts. You girls must be fat and ugly.

I am surprised because Brangelina fans are usually attractive. You girls sound like Maniston fans. This site sucks. PerezHilton is better.

I agree Jade. I think it was more than likely a pR stunt. I don't have any feelings for JA one way or the other. I never did, therefore why I don't make mention of her. She deserves to be happy like everyone else.

Hi. I am Jennifer Aniston and I am ugly. Thanks.

I'd like to see Angelina and Jennifer fuck each other. Maybe they should be the ones to have a relationship and screw over brad. Brad's just doin all this for Jolie cause he likes screwin her in her tattooed butt.

To anonymous? 4:15. I don't need an interview, or article to tell me what anyone can see. A picture of a pregnant woman carrying a mans child with such a beautiful smile and inner glow can only be a true recepiant of a man who LOVES her.

Imagine looking at that tattoo every night while fuckin her doggy style? He probably would just want to shred right through her cause of that tatoo.

Hi. I am Jennifer Aniston and Vince Vaughan just told me I am ugly. Thanks.

Why is she raising that one eyebrow? Dork

Karen, why do they have to express their love for your benefit, they have both been down that road before, maybe this time they are smart handle it differently. Only time will tell if they will last or not.

Talking about Billy Bob, asked by Diane Sawyer why his marriage ended, he said and I quote "Angie is too beautiful, too intelligent, and has a very high integrity, next to her I feel small." Ain't that something coming from an ex husband. Angie has managed to stay good friends with her ex husbands, she has never been bitter or tried to play the victims, she absorbs the blows that life hits her with and keeps going, growing and becoming a better human being. So live your life instead of wishing hurt and pain to others.

WTF Yes you are so right. The girls are much hotter there! We are all fat and ugly with pimples on our faces, oily hair, missing teeth and no breasts. We wouldn't want you to be SAD or MAD here. Actually everyone her on both teams are all lesbians who pose as straight woman and/or gay men. Yea so WTF? Get lost already.

If Jennifer was so ugly or bad, why did she come out to be the star on 'Friends' and why would Brad marry her?

brangelina is having a girl i bet. she and zahara are going to have it out

here is the way it unfolds:
zahara: i was here first!

unbornita: fuck you, i am here now!

zahara: bitch, give me my barbie!

unbornita: fuck you, it is my barbie!

zahara: you get the white barbie. the black one is mine. she dresses better and dances better so play with the one with no rhythm!

unbornita: fuck you zahara, give me my barbie! mommy says white girls may not know how to dance but they can sure fuck.

zahara: you white trash!

unbornita: i am not white! i am rainbow colored!

zahara: give me my barbie, miss pillsbury!

unbornita: at least i am a real pitt!

zahara: yeah but guess what, i still walk away with half, bitch!
brad and angelina: kids! come on. let�s all play. where�s maddox?
zahara: who cares? hey mom, maddox outed himself.

unbornita: he�s gay?

zahara (rolling her eyes): mom � dad, where did y�all get this piece of trash? she is so clueless! and mom don�t i have more rhythm than unbornita?a

angelina and brad: yes, honey you do. now hug and make-up.

zahara and unbornita are about to hug and make-up but instead zahara pins unbornita to the ground and they start pulling each other�s hair and wailing. brad and angie go inside for a good fuck. fuck these tired ass kids!

Hey Lou,just came back,what a mess. Thank you
Tandem.

Oh so you ARE saying that Billy left her becuase he felt "small" compared to her. Hmm. And what about Brad then?

oops forgot to add my name anon4:57

To jade 4:43, you don't need a interview or article because thier isn't one. You see a man in love ? Right. I guess we all see what we want to see. You don't know how Brad feels. You act as if you know these people, you DON'T AND YOU NEVER WILL.

wow he picked up her bottle. lets give him the dad of the year award.

I bet you Brad's career is gonna go down the drain after being with Jolie. Billy's did and so did that other english guy.

LICK IT, SUCK IT, AND WIPE IT DRY! Angelina's got it down pat! That's what those big lips r good for. And he probably loves her big lips... and i'm not talkin about the ones on her face.

Anon 5:05 I don't recall either of those two men
having a career as big as Brad's.

I'm Anonymous 4-5 PM.
Please excuse me I'm so stupid and miserable. I have to put hateful comments because I have no life. This is the only joy in my horrible sad life.

well even the whole on your butt is too big for brad because you've been used a lot even by your dog bitches!!

fucked my fingers horny bitch dog!!

Billy's career was going to get big after that movie with Halle berry. But it didnt. And I dont think anyone is going to see that jesse james movie brad's doing.

yep...lick and suck my balls bitch!! or go and and suck your father's balls bitch or lick your mom's minute vg coz u didn't came out from her bg but from your dad's ass!!

ALL THESE PSYCHO ANGELINA WANNABES ARE WORSE THAN EVERYONE ELSE.

I'm so miserable I have to vent my anger using the most foul language on this blog. Pity me, like you pity Aniston, we belong together!

dirty horny bitch dogs...woooh wwoooh lick my balls bitch dog!!

BAMZ fans have no class. All a bunch of 12 year olds posing as pregnant mommas who got screwed like white trash. I bet you all these BAMZ women have no teeth and are nothing but trailer trash or ghetto trash.

Tandem, I will pop in later.People you need to ignore the haters,I have read some of the posts and they are sick.I question the breeding of some of these people as well as their mental health.They hate Brad and Angelina but yet they are here everyday and all day posting trash.I just can't understand why they care so much about Bamz since they claim they hate them,but we can decuss that later.They need to support their idol because when Reese wins the oscar she will be america's sweetheart,and she has talent to boot.You know who will be hard pressed for a lead in a comedy,a good one at least.

I THINK JJ SHOULD STOP THE COMMENT BOARD!!! NOW IT'S SCARY AND OUT OF CONTROL :(

See I'm so angry I'm losing it! Can Aniston hire me in her infomercial?

hey stupid...i was really very disappointed that you are alive!!! i should kill you when you are still on my stomach you ugly fuck!!

your a useless person and nothing to gain from your birth into this world but just misery and regrets!!

i wish u are not born and hope that u die soon!!!

Here's some happy pics of Brad.
http://bradpitt.wz.cz/foto/pictures/ruzne/nahac/ruznah004.jpg
http://bradpitt.wz.cz/foto/pictures/ruzne/nahac/ruznah005.jpg

I am so glad i can bring out the low fuck BAMZ fans who dont even make any fuckin sense when trash talkin.

"when you are still ON my stomach"? Why dont these foreign fucks learn to speak english? They dont even know how to insult or curse properly.

I am so ashamed of myself I have to put 'Anonymous' to my name. It's fan like me who is trashing Aniston's career. Because her fans are so stupid, just like me!

ur the trailer trash skank!!! your so dirty and nasty that your mama wish you weren't born and die of childbirth!! don't know who was your fucking father coz she got drunk and was gangraped by rednecks!!

To the jolie haters,Brad and Angie falling in love is nothing new to Hollywood and to life in general,it is an everyday occurence,right now as I type there is a man or woman coming to terms with ending their current relatioship and moving on.
Katherine Hepburn,is on every list imagimable as the greatest actress who ever lived,the great love of her life Spencer Tracey a married man.
Sinatra ended his marriage to be with Ava Gardener,and even if Ava wouldn't have him,he refused to stay with his wife,because of his love for Ava. Here is a little list
Ronald Regan/Nancy/girl interupted his marriage.
Bob Dole/Elizabeth Dole same story
Newt Gringwich/Asked his 1st wife to sign the divorce papers on her sick bed.
Paul Newman/Married Joanne Woodward same month he got divorced.
Eddie Fisher/Liz taylor you all know that one.
Bathsheba/David he wanted her husband's head to be with her.I could keep going on and on.
It is all part of this miracle we call LIFE.

"to Anonymous," you're IGNORED. Bye bye now! Go sqwat in your hole and let out the shit there!

Although I do believe that Angelina and Brad love each other I also believe that she just got pregnant to keep him by her side because she was so convinced that she did not want to have children. I hope that they do last because they are a beautiful couple but Angelina just won't stop running around! I do think that she might be able to get bored of Brad sooner or later and maybe Brad will get tired of her liberal ways...

Brad & Angelina did not fall in love. They're using each other. He wanted a good fuck and a kid. She wanted her little daddy. Really, the pimp daddy here is Angelina. Pimpin' her kids around and havin brad follow her around on a leash and doin all her dirty work for her.

How could I forget the most famous one.
Edward gave up the throne,gave up being King to be with Wallis Simpson,the American Divorcee.
I was taught that when a man wants you he wants you and he will destroy Troy to be with you.
Bradley is right where he wants to be,so let it go people,let it go.

Thank you Jared,for that new feature.

To pinky 5:32, I agree. Angie is always on the move, and I think she will contnue to be on the move for a while. It will be interesting to see if she will get a tutor for Madd.

where did all the great pictures go?????????????????????????

how about yours??? you're here aren't you??

so stop complaining and just look, read all these silly comments, give your own 1 mature cents and no nasty...please!!

thanks much!!

hey, i found all of the old BAMZ pictures here! quick, before they go down again!

http://idontlikeyouinthatway.com/image_pages/anistonsundance2.html

LOOK AT CHINNIFER, I KNOW THIS IS OT. *COUGH* ANYWAY, SOMETIMES SHE SCARED ME.LOL

BMAZ...I LOVE YOU : )

brangelina is having a girl i bet. she and zahara are going to have it out

here is the way it unfolds:
zahara: i was here first!

unbornita: fuck you, i am here now!

zahara: bitch, give me my barbie!

unbornita: fuck you, it is my barbie!

zahara: you get the white barbie. the black one is mine. she dresses better and dances better so play with the one with no rhythm!

unbornita: fuck you zahara, give me my barbie! mommy says white girls may not know how to dance but they can sure fuck.

zahara: you white trash!

unbornita: i am not white! i am rainbow colored!

zahara: give me my barbie, miss pillsbury!

unbornita: at least i am a real pitt!

zahara: yeah but guess what, i still walk away with half, bitch!
brad and angelina: kids! come on. let�s all play. where�s maddox?
zahara: who cares? hey mom, maddox outed himself.

unbornita: he�s gay?

zahara (rolling her eyes): mom � dad, where did y�all get this piece of trash? she is so clueless! and mom don�t i have more rhythm than unbornita?a

angelina and brad: yes, honey you do. now hug and make-up.

zahara and unbornita are about to hug and make-up but instead zahara pins unbornita to the ground and they start pulling each other�s hair and wailing. brad and angie go inside for a good fuck. fuck these tired ass kids!

you know I don't know who is doing all this trashy talk but they're no JA fans. However, maybe it's one of you trying to convince people that it's JA fans doing this. I don't know but this is nonsense.

Regardless, it's disturbing to know that some of you have this romantic notion that betraying a marriage and leaving that marriage without trying to repair it is acceptable. Do you think it's romantic to leave someone for someone else? Does that make it more exciting? Now, maybe some of you have been in that postion and maybe it didn't work out. And you are living through these two, cheering this on. I don't know. But I feel that marriage vows are worthless in Hollywood and people do not try or seek outside help they just run to another partner and try again. Without first taking the time to figure out what went wrong in the marriage they just left. How they contributed and what they need to change about themselves.

are u done writing nasty comments or you want more???

i can give you more if you want....i don't have anything to do right now so if nasty is you want i'll give you more nasty!!

Hi. I am Jennifer Aniston and I am fugly ugly ugly ugly. With a big chin. Thanks.

And do YOU think it's 'romantic' to keep that fake 'fairytale' PR marriage together long after it was OVER between them just for you? Aniston went on to have yet another PR relationship, whereas Pitt went on to have a REAL baby. That tells all, it's over and done with, end of story, so deal with it. They have.

ok, this is ridiculous, all of the foul language being used is completely random and unnecessary. this isn't some porn site, or filthy chat room. it sounds so completely low class, and really like you have no respect for yourself or anyone else.

Moviefone's Sexiest Kiss goes to none other than
YEAH ....you know who! I love it!

Ok is it my imagination or does Zahara never smile? If you have a picture of it post it. I think she is autistic or something. No offense or anything, but really I have seen a hundred pictures of her with none smiling & Maddox smiles all the time.

Oh I forgot, Brad looks like shit.

To: ange | February 28, 2006 05:30 PM, who listed a number of famous couples who came together while still involved somewhat with others. PLEASE do not compare Jolie with these other people of HIGHER caliber than Jolie. These other women were not blatantly outspoken sex addicts, whores and sleazy bimbos. Jolie has kept these personality traits under wraps in order to reel in Brad - a perfect daddy for her kids. I agree with someone above who wrote that Jolie is probably not thrilled that Pitt is becoming more popular with the kids. They always look so happy with him. With her, they are not. The kids and sex is all that got them together - they will split when she becomes her true self again. She is such a fake!

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 05:55 PM

are you in a coma girl??? brad and jen are no more!!! if it happened to me, i wouldn't cling to that bastard, i'll kick his ass!!

if what you are suggesting is to make their marraige work...then you are dreamin....that marriage is gone before brad and ange get together....even if you like to curse brad because you taught he cheated....you don't have proof.. even jen confirmed about brad's integrity!! why you want jen to cling to brad??? there's never been any rumor about him being womaniser despite of him being the sexiest man alive. he was loyal to jen during their marraige...but that marriage didn't last because there's no more connection between them...

i ask you this, if your husband waited and being understanding because he wants you to also become successful...and you become successful on your own right...as you agreed when you got married, he expected you to form a family but you keep him waiting....when will the waiting end???when both of you can not enjoy having a family because your too old to run after the kids???

if it is the other way around...as the wife and you want to have a baby but husband is not interested and more interested in his career, what you would do???

in both situation, if you meet someone and the thing that you're looking for, family, is the most important to this person and you are attracted to him/her, what you will do???

cling to your empty marraige???

are you complimenting me or being nasty???

just let me know if you like my post and i can give you more to read!!

Anonymous | February 28, 2006 06:14 PM

you're so jealous because you need dick to stuffed on your ass!!

neither, take your nasty comments somewhere else. you are making yourself look like you have no better way of expressing yourself than to spew a string of curse words.

thought not taught...see i know how to spell!!

thanks...and you can kiss my ass!!

Cute

Anon 5:55, I have news for you,50% of the marriage vows in this country are useless. No one is romanticizing the break up. When something is dead you cannot breathe life into it. People fall out of love everyday,for different reasons.The man Bradley is today is not who he was seven years ago. I have met many older couples that have been married forever,that said it's not that marriages were better, a lot of women didn't have jobs,so they stayed in a miserable marriage, Brad and Aniston went into this marriage knowing that there was a possibility it was not going to last. The woman told W mag,he was not the love of her life,he was A love of her life. She is now with another love of her life.
Hey Vince Vaughn is a nice guy,I really like his movies. She seems happy,now can you be happy for her. I mean if Bradley is so a "lowlife" then she is better off without him right? We are just happy that in spite of all Brad and Angie have been through they have found each other,and if you live long enough at some point in your life you are going to be on one side of the fence if not both.

keep it up, you get classier by the second.

Fed up with Bamz....stupid...zahara smiling http://forum.souliejolie.com/uploads/post-3778-1140973202.jpg

ange, i was on a post a few days ago, and i think it was you that said you were leaving this site. glad to see you back, but just curious... what made you change your mind?

to jay:

all those nasty slur comments are all directed to all those anonymous bamz+1 haters...i think!!:) :) :) see what they get!!

they are nasty but what can you expect if nasty comments you give in return you will receive nasty response...

oooh all these silly people coming to this blog and spending time hatin!!

To anon 6:14,you need to brush up on your Hollywood History dear,Ava Gardener had a similar personality,That also was a different era,media wasn't mass produce then like it is today. No matter which way you slice it dear,a rose by any other name is still a rose.

Anonymous, thanks for showing me that picture, because I swear I never had seen her smile.

P>S> Brad is that a saddle on your nose?
Answer: No those are the bags under my eyes, I got them because I am an ugly old cheating fucker

shut the fucked up!!!

joy, i guess i would rather see the haters being dealt with in a more intelligent way, like on previous posts. what does all of the cursing do? better to actually present an argument on why they are great. there are so many to choose from.

see haters...jay said i'm getting classier every minute!!!

wanna dance?? we can dance!!! la! la! la!

to all the bamz+1 haters come and fucked my fingers!! they're always ready for you! he! he!

Jay I really like some of the women I have come to know on this site,I came back to catch up on the very Talented Rica's fanfic,and was horrified at some of the comments,it was suddenly no longer the site I had come to love,so I ate crow and jumped in to the defense of Angie,on the Brad in NYC thread.

Why were most of the pictures removed? And why oh why are the plane pics still up and labeled as happening on the weekend when they're from the 15th?

ange, totally understand, i myself am horrified by a lot of the comments that have started to show up. but there do seem to be s lot of really intelligent women on this site, which is part of the reason i too, keep coming back.

WTF?!!! 391 posts? I've been in class all day...i hope rica, has included another fanfic, entry!!!

ange jumped in any time...love your comments, always well thought and most of all always make me smile, glad BAMZ have you in their corner.

see? courtesy is nice

Z is so cute!!

I love it when brad holds her!!

I THINK BRAD LOOKS BETTER HOLDER Z THAN KISSING ANISTON BY A LONG SHOT!!

I LOVE YOU BAMZ, TAKE CARE!!

from laineygossip article this week, response to a question on BAMZ update:
"I wish I had more for you but since they jetted to Europe, many of the usual insider smut routes have been sealed, not only for me but for all gossip outlets. There is some speculation that they are remaining in France for the 40 day requirement so that they can get married officially on Gallic soil. And my sources still believe they will end up in Africa at some point for the birth of the baby but making it official in her motherland is definitely a possibility. As for Jen? Well…she's makes an Oscar debut in 7 days. Other than working out, tanning, not eating, and obsessing over her hair and her dress - what else would she be doing?..." so far Lainey is pretty acurate in her sources.

6:30 Fed Up With BAMZ, picture of Zahara smiling on the cover of People Magazine where Angelina is holding her. It was during the shooting of that Matt Damon Movie.

Maybe she does not smile because she thinks of Chinnifer's face!

Where are my Bamz chicas?I finally have some free time and would like to hear from you guys.What happen to most of the pictures?They were so cute.

lou, i am also looking for the pictures...they're gone....i think the haters took them and kissed the pictures to death for being the best looking family...:) :)

Lou and Joy go up to this post, you can click to see picture.

BAMZ LOVERRRRRR | February 28, 2006 05:45 PM

Joy you are sooooo crazy funny.

Hey CM at 6:30 go fuck yourself. She doesn't smile because she knows her mother is a whore.

Oh Jared I just woke up and thank you so much for my BAMZ fix. Oh what a beautiful family. I have to go clean out my panties I am so excited! I am going to affix these pics to my purse, my shows, and my forehead. I think I will take down my curtains and blow thsee up and use them instead! Oh I just showed them to my husband and he is so excited to see them he has a boner & cannot wait until tomorrow. Oh we are so giddy!

This is what you idiots sound like.

Hey Lou,Nancy is here also,We have gained two more friends Jay and Tandem,I'm not sure if they are Chicas or Chicos.

7:36,Fed Up with BAMZ: She is not smiling because she is thinking of how nasty Vince Vaughan is looking like Andre the Giant and also thinking of her evil almost step-mother Chinnifer with no boobs.

Fed up with Bamz | February 28, 2006 07:39 PM

whore...shut the fuck up!!! your so full of shit that instead of going out from your ass, it came out from your filthy mouth!!

bitch dog...go fuck your brother or son!!! go ----go...sit and stop barking you noisy bitch!!

Hey, who is this Lainey gossip person?A few people made reference to her yesterday.Is she reliable?Most of gossip that is going around about Bamz is bogus,and you can tell someone threw it together.Since they have been in Paris you don't hear anything .I guess that was the point,to cut off the gossip pipeline.

She's some wanna be from Canada who uses Star Magazine as her bible.

I've been out of town. I come home to find new pictures. Its too bad that trolls had to invade with their nasty behavior. I think Zahara looks really cute.

Hello to Ange, Lou and others Bamz fans...I am back....after a long business/pleasure trip...now, I need a vacation....France sound good?...hmmm
Lou, I like lainey gossip columm, her sources are pretty acurate and she is very entertaining. The reason some of the hater does not like her because Lainey is also a BAMZ fans. OH and Hey Ange, Lainey also has a great fanfic regarding BP and AJ as well.

Ange,I tivo'ed Paul Newman's biography and watched it and I totally understand the comparisons that you made.Dead on.

You know, I feel so left out of this post because all of you are like saying hello to each other like you belong to some special club or something. Everybody knows each other by name and I just think it is silly. This is not like a previous poster wrote a sorority. Cut it out withh the "my girls" comments. I am not posting here anymore because of this. Too much bonding. Yuck!

I love Angelina though.

Nancy,thank you for the information.

Hi, my name is Chinnifer Maniston and I want Brad back but he left my ugly ass for a beautiful woman - Angelina Jolie.

Now I will get all the ugly women of America on my side. I am on a crusade. A crusade of bitter ugly girls. Thanks.

Did I strike a nerve pathetic hero worshipper? My shit smells like roses by the way.

Hi, I'm...of you know the rest....ugly.

Thanks. Sorry for my chin, I know it's huge.

Love,
Ugly Chinnifer

Hi, I am ugly. Ugly Chinnifer. Nice to meet you.

Love,
Maniston

Regarding paul Newman: That was back in the day. It's different today. Times change. It's not like the old days. Relationships are different now.

Sorry Ange - I disagree with you about Ava Gardner. I am probably older than you with parents who lived that era and spoke none stop about events, gossip, etc. Yes, Ava Gardener had flings etc etc...but no one can surpass the low class, 'mental', and blatantly sleazy comments coming from Jolie's mouth. Do you really think she has transformed herself so quickly into this demure, subdued, devoted 'wife' and mother???? She is acting to suit her needs, act the part of an ambassador, and mask her insecurities. It's worked actually, as she's reeled in B. Pitt for now. But she will get bored in this latest role and bounce back to her old sleazy ways. It's too entrenched in her being.

Why is Brad's mouth always hanging open and Angelina's lips are pursed.

What a relief to see some friendly and familiar names. For a minute after reading several posts I thought I had ended up in the Tourette chat line...lol Nothing gives away a child going through puberty like their use of profanity.... Makes me pass right on to the next adult ....

"Brad and Angelina must be so very happy to have found each other. Happiness is sometimes where you least expect it."

What r u talking about? They never smile at each other or rarely look at each other. And while holding Zahara, Brad's always looking straight ahead and keeping his head and face far away from her's.

With Jennifer, he atleast cracked a smile once in a while, even when the papparazzi were harassing them and so did Jen and they'd be looking at each other when doing it.

I think Angelina is way too serious for Brad.

Brad and Ange are media hungry - love the attention. What is the BEST way to get the media in a frenzy and get them to follow your every move???

Answer -
1. give the media little information to keep them guessing.

2. give the media conflicting info so that they pounce on the truth ("we do not have a relationship" - WRONG; "I will never have a child of my own" - WRONG; we will never get married" - WRONG??,

Had they simply just been truthful, they wouldn't have everyone tuned in to see what happens next! Yuk - they even use their kids as fuel for the media. Despicable people.

ok...we have another Nancy in here....lou, ange, Elena you can jumped right in now...

I agree. She's only good for sex. She doesn't have a personality. It's always about sex and men with her. Nothing more. She needs to do UN work in order to make her life less boring.

She will eventually end up divorcing or seperating from Brad. They wont last. This is a temporary thing. She can't keep a man and you can't change overnight.

If BillyBob felt small next to her it was because she probably acted too dominant for him. Whether you're a man or woman, being too domineering keeps a relationship unbalanced and one person is bound to get fed up with it. I know cause my boss's personality is just like Angelina's (I dont know about sexually) and she's had 2 or 3 divorces already. She was an amazing boss, but boy did she keep you on your feet!

That's why I left her and i'm not the first employee of hers to leave. She had good intentions in the way she did everything, but putting up with that 24/7, not to mention 8-12 hrs a day is not something i would want as an employee or a spouse. She also did not have that many friends.

i guess this is the effect, FAT TUESDAY has on some people!! i love bamz, i'm rooting for them, i hope it works out for them, children are involed, etc. but"bamz this, Bamz that," " angie looks tired," " they don't touch enough in public", their clothes," " jen this, jen that, jens chin," etc. ............ I like coming here to see the pix, laugh at the posts etc. but today, the claws, the psychos, are in rare from,WHEW!!!!!!!!!!!

You know why REBECCA knows everything , cuz she was under thier bed. WOW ! Amazing.

Hi, I am Chinnifer and my fans are as ugly as me. I am Chinnifer, lame actress. Thanks.

With Jennifer, he atleast cracked a smile once in a while, even when the papparazzi were harassing them and so did Jen and they'd be looking at each other when doing it.

And look how well their relationship turned out. Its now obvious they were putting on a show. The Golden Couple was all a lie. They didn't exist.

How do you know they never talked "sleazy" Media back then was not what it is today,it was easier for a lot of things to fly under the radar. I have an Aunt who is all caught up in that old Hollywood Gossip,and the only difference between then and now is how the news gets around and how fast it gets around. By the way it is rumoured that Gwyneth Paltrow has a filthy mouth and likes to tell dirty jokes. Angelina is just not two faced like most of them. Angelina also never cheated in her marriage,and went for a long time without sex,until she decided to take a lover or two. Have you ever watched Sex and the City,the average woman is going through more men,than most celebrities. What makes us different we are not famous. I get the feeling the people that are most judgemental,are the ones with a whole lot a bones in the ole walk in closet. By the way in Sex and the City it was Art imitating Life.

Oliver Stone commented in the VF article,that Angie is definately Old Hollywood, He might not have been a part of the scene in the 40s and 50s but definately the 60s,and I am sure he is familiar with a lot of the ones from those two decades.So from Olivers mouth a very respected director.

I've enjoyed reading Elena's, Rica's and I'm not a Chinnifer Fan, Tandem's etc. blogs. That's why I keep coming back to this site. There is more then one thread intertwined in this blog. Every now and then, woven into the inane comments such as "Jennifer is fugly" and "Angelina is a whore" is a thread that makes plowing through those comments worth while.

I found the debate on how to keep Zahara in contact with her black culture and heritage interesting. Clearly, Tandem, I am not a Chinnifer Fan, Rica and others have given a lot of thought to this question in relation to themselves.

I'd just like to put in my 2 cents worth. I don't think the debate is a black issue but an issue of maintaining ones ethnicity and minority culture within a majority and dominant culture.

I'm ethnically Chinese but my great grandparents migrated from China so I'm 4th generation remove. As a descendant of immigrants, I've lived as part of a minority group for most of my life. For a large part of my life, I've had to balance the need to assimilate into the dominant, majority culture without losing my ethnicity and without losing my individuality. That I think is the real issue, not whether one is black, white or yellow or brown. And as the world becomes ever more global, working out the balance becomes ever more important for us. There is no one right way or one wrong way but its great to see how other people are handling it so we can learn something new.

Ange,don't respond to these people,they will believe what they want.Humans evolve and change.I believe Angelina has evolved to a remarkable woman who has had some bumps in the road,but over came them.The best thing to me about her is that Angelina doesn't claim to be a saint,but she's no ones fool.You have naysayers judging and tring to critique every aspect of this womans life and you wonder are these people perfect?No one is perfect.It's very easy to sit around and criticize someone elses life.

Rebecca, there is a difference between being strong and being domineering. While it is true that a dominant personality tends to do better with a more submissive one. Unless we are talking about an alternative lifestyle. No, even in an alternative lifestyle you still have to have trust and commitment and a lot ofcommunication.

I have a friend who is into that lifestyle who told me I was a woman with a dominant charisma. We had quite a discussion about it. I told him that he was mistaken ...It wasn't that I always wanted to be in charge , it was that I had to be in charge by default. When you are strong and independent by necessity it does make it more difficult to find men who are strong and confident enough for such a woman. But trust me , we can't be conquered but we will surrender to one who is worthy of us.

I wonder if some of these women are aware of how sexual children and young people are today? They may be surprised to find out that their teens might be doing some of the same things they are castigating Angie for... Should they also be punished for life???

With Jennifer, he atleast cracked a smile once in a while, even when the papparazzi were harassing them and so did Jen and they'd be looking at each other when doing it.

And look how well their relationship turned out. Its now obvious they were putting on a show. The Golden Couple was all a lie. They didn't exist.

It was a show. looking back at the troy premierw on may 2004, the two rarely interact except when the camera was on them, they would hold on to each other and give a big smile. they are actors remember ?

I think what we seem to be forgetting here is that Africa is not a Country it is a Continet. Each Country is different in the way they speak,look or even in the way the do things. The Europeans are all white,but culturally very different,and at the end of the day culture binds people faster than skin colour. Zahara's hair texture,will not nessesarily be kinky as Ethiopians tend to have Caucasion features and wavy hair. I have met in my lifetime Black people that were far removed from so call "Black Culture". As much as Zahara's ethnicity will be Ethiopian,culturally she will be American,and to fully understand that concept,you had to have been raised outside the US,and even in this Culture there is a slow shift from people connecting racially to people connecting because of economics.

Rebecca, I wasn't going to respond to your post because it was asinine,but I couldn't resist.Billy Bob was insecure,and when she bought home Maddox it became worse.This had nothing to do with Angie dominating him.Some men do like sharing,even if its with their kids.He wanted her traveling around with him and his band,and she wanted to stay home with Maddox and he went by himself and she realized he didn't want a family and she left him.What woman would stay with a man that doesn't want her child?What was she supposed to do give Maddox back.Now she has found a man who wants her and her childern,I'm happy for her,if you want to keep on hating so be it,but at least make some sense while doing it.

Lou,that was when I developed a greater respect for Angie, She loved BillyBob,but he was selfish,where Maddox was concerned,and as much as it hurt her,she left him. The love for her child was far greater than anything she could feel for a man. So Bullshit to all of you that thinks she got pregnant to hold on to Brad,I get the feeling she would have raised the baby with or without him. She made sure he adopted her two children,this is a woman that is making sure,that where her children are concerned they are all equal.

Lou,that was when I developed a greater respect for Angie, She loved BillyBob,but he was selfish,where Maddox was concerned,and as much as it hurt her,she left him. The love for her child was far greater than anything she could feel for a man. So Bullshit to all of you that thinks she got pregnant to hold on to Brad,I get the feeling she would have raised the baby with or without him. She made sure he adopted her two children,this is a woman that is making sure,that where her children are concerned they are all equal.

Ange,I am so tried of the haters crying he's only with her for sex.Wasn't he getting sex from Jen all those years?This is beyond sex,yes I think they have a hot sex life,but this is much more.These two people connected and feel in love.The thing is Brad could have had any twit in hollywood crank him out a kid,and nobody would have bat a eye.Due to fact he fell in love with Angelina who the tabliods love it's a big deal.Brad took alot of crap from the press a first about this relationship.I find it hard to believe he would go through all of this if he wasn't in love.When he separted from Jen he had months to think this over,but I have a feeling when they went on that trip in Jan he had already made up his mind.Is it just me or do some of the haters sound like kids?I wonder if they are teenagers.

Ange,I am so tried of the haters crying he's only with her for sex.Wasn't he getting sex from Jen all those years?This is beyond sex,yes I think they have a hot sex life,but this is much more.These two people connected and feel in love.The thing is Brad could have had any twit in hollywood crank him out a kid,and nobody would have bat a eye.Due to fact he fell in love with Angelina who the tabliods love it's a big deal.Brad took alot of crap from the press a first about this relationship.I find it hard to believe he would go through all of this if he wasn't in love.When he separted from Jen he had months to think this over,but I have a feeling when they went on that trip in Jan he had already made up his mind.Is it just me or do some of the haters sound like kids?I wonder if they are teenagers.

Sorry about the double post.

I read from the British "Hello" mag. (Jan.2006). they stated that the pregnancy was accidental and Brad and Angie were elated . but they might adopt another 2 kids.

I wondered if the pregnany might have been accidental,due to Zaharas age.It happens ,it happen to me with my first two.Well they are happy about it and I was happy when it happen to me.Being happy is what counts,life is to short to be miserable.

Don't believe everything you read in these trashy gossip magazines

Accidental,planned who cares,babies are a blessing.

Chicas before I discovered Jared,The only two Blogs I read were Gawker and The Bastardly. The Bastardly tends to objectify women,but I go there for their very funny comments on Aniston, I think her fans need to use up their energy defending her there,as they are starting a I HATE JENNIFER ANISTON Campaign,and why she is hated. They say they are sure they will get more than a thousand response.If you ever have a chance to go there,we don't whorship Angie the way they worship Angie and they always poke fun at Aniston. Just Archive,Angelina or Brad they make the most hilarious comments,it is a pre-dominantly male Blog,but very funny.

wow, havent posted in awhile, but i love bamz+1, looking at the hundreds of post and seeing most of it negative is disturbing. can we just ignore the haters please? i mean they complain and spew negativity, and yet spend tons of time writing about these people they hate? wtf!?! shouldnt they be doing something else? if you come to this site and look at these pictures, you're a fan...and if you take the time to write a post, then you're a bigger fan than you want to admit...so lets go back to luvin these awesome people!!!

I have been on that site.The guy who runs it acted upset when he found out Angelina was pregant,then he stated he wasn't going to post any pictures of her pregnant.His reason was why?But he did.He is funny sometimes.

Anonymous, I AGREE 100%

UH ANGE I DONT KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE TOLD YOUR PSYCHOTIC BRAINS THIS, BUT WE DO NOT CAAAAARRRE!!!! WE DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR PRECIOUS HATED JEN A! STUPID!

I think these BAMZ morons are really and truly mentally disturbed.

OK Haters,Here goes
"Whip up a convincing post-photos,graphs
and/or tables will be a a great addition telling1000s around the globe why you hate J. Aniston& why people in general should see through her shady ways & also join the Hate Aniston Camp."
www.bastardly.com
Ok Aniston fanatics save your venom,for the guys over at the Bastardly

How many times does Jennifer's name have to be brought up? Lemme count.... ah, 300 times by the BAMZ fans

SORRY ANGE, LOLOL, WE'RE GONNA STAY RIGHT HERE!

Anon then what pray tell is it you care about dear,
because if you don't care about Aniston,then what exactly is it to you who Bradley is with.

Ange,they only care about provoking people.They come here use profanity,its about getting a reaction and attention.

In response to Elena's response about Angelina being strong . STRONG?? Are you kidding? She immediately has a baby with another man before or right after his divorce is final. You call that strong? She depends on men every day to satisfy herself. You call that strong? If she is so strong why is she hiding out in Paris? If she is so strong, why doesnt she confront the inetrviewers regarding her relationship? Why? Brad overpowering her strength?

Yeah,you don't have a choice because over there they are going to come at you at your level,something we are not willing to do here.

Ange, you getting upset over us? My god, if so then ignore it! Because we're not here insulting you. If we feel that what Angelina did was wrong, we'll express it. And I've noticed, the only time you people come out with the bashing against posters is when the JUSTIFIABLE and intelligent posts against Brangelina come out. You feeling attacked because we insult these celebrities? Hmmmm, I wonder why you feel so attacked? Ange, some of us are old enough not to care about these celebrities as much as you. But we're old enough to comment on their actions if we feel they are wrong and are setting a bad example. The more you take what we say personally the more we will shout. You cannot stop people from voicing their opinions. This isnt a communist nation. The only reason you CONSTANT BAMZ fans are here (for christ sake Lou, do you take a break?) is because you have no friends. The fact that anyone criticizes, it's because we know what we're talking about. I highly doubt a bunch of 12 year olds will criticize. But grown adults, they'll know when people r wrong when they see it.

oh, I am watching the movie " Original Sin" on We Channel now....AJ is so beautiful in this movie....

Bingo Ange,I will not lower myself to using gutter language,and the the ones who don't profanity are just asinine.

Angelina's pregnancy, IMO I think it was planned........

TO: Anonymous | March 1, 2006 12:11 AM
Wonderfully said. I agree wholeheartedly. I've posted my opinion a couple of times today in a civilized manner - but the result was an attack on my character rather than on the facts. How does this make me feel?? ...it convinces me that my point was right-on.

"Regardless, it's disturbing to know that some of you have this romantic notion that betraying a marriage and leaving that marriage without trying to repair it is acceptable. Do you think it's romantic to leave someone for someone else? Does that make it more exciting? Now, maybe some of you have been in that postion and maybe it didn't work out. And you are living through these two, cheering this on. I don't know. But I feel that marriage vows are worthless in Hollywood and people do not try or seek outside help they just run to another partner and try again. Without first taking the time to figure out what went wrong in the marriage they just left. How they contributed and what they need to change about themselves."

I don't think it is romantic but that is the fact of life. Shit happened. People fall in and out of love everyday.

For me, I just don't understand the double standard practised. Nobody called Julia Robert whore or homewrecker. Nobody trashing the size of her "lips" even though she had a long list of boyfriends. And I certainly don't understand the fact that a lot of people who claimed that they don't like BAMZ+1 but follow their news religiously day in and day out. Whether or not their relationship will last is none of our business. And don't start with how it will affect the children. A lot of people who come from a divorced family turned out to be just fine. It is how you raised them.

And I also don't understand how come it is okay for people to trash Angelina but not Jen Jen? someone is commenting on the size of Brad's dick. Well, then good for Jen for getting rid of him. I am sure she is much happier with Vince although I never see the size of his. If not, she can always shop for a bigger one.....

well said lou, 11:04pm!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous | March 1, 2006 12:11 AM

Grown adult, they'll know when people are wrong when they see it?...you can not see it if we put it front of your face....we are not upset over your opinion, just your ignorant.

Anonymous ,please point out your post,there have been very few civilzed posts on this site today from people who don't care for Brad and Angelina.So I really want to read yours again which one is it?

anon,12:11,you obviously don't know what someone being upset sounds like. Aparently you have not read some of these posts. For a few days now there has been the constant use of profanity,and the conversations being taken to a gutter level,and also some blatantly racist comments. When I first started posting here,it was good clean fun,with us sharing the reasons why we like this couple,and sharing some of our personal experiences to show how some of our lives paralleled theirs. So don't flatter your self dear,nothing you say could upset me,because you don't count. Goodnight.

Anon 12:16 please poin out your civilized post,and also point out where you were attacked,because if that's true,I will be the first to apologise,but remember now there is a difference between atacking and ratinally defending.

LYLIAN 10:05, YOU ARE VERY ELOQUENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR POST. NOW HERE IS THE DOUBLE STANDARD, WHEN YOU AS AN ASIAN PERSON MAKE THIS POINT ABOUT IDENTIFYING WITH ONE'S CULTURE, PEOPLE DON'T SEE IT AS MUCH AS AN AGRESSIVE STATEMENT AS WHEN I, A BLACK WOMAN, SAY IT. THE MINUTE A BLACK PERSON TALKS ABOUT RACIAL IDENTITY, PEOPLE AND SOME ON THIS VERY BLOG, CLAIM YOU ARE BEING A RACIST AND "PLAYING THE RACE CARD". WHEN A PERSON OF ANOTHER ETHNIC GROUPS SAYS IT, THEY ARE JUST BEING PROUD AND OPEN-MINDED. VERY INTERESTING WHAT YOU DISCOVER ABOUT PEOPLE. I IDENTIFY WITH YOU AND FOR THE RECORD MY FAMILY IS NOT FROM THE US SO I AM FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN SO I TOTALLY GET THE EMBRACING YOUR CULTURE IDEA. I THINK ANGELINA RESPECTS THE IDEA TOO.

NOW ANGE 10:35, SAID THE FOLLOWING:

Zahara's hair texture,will not nessesarily be kinky as Ethiopians tend to have Caucasion features and wavy hair.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO WITH YOUR COMMENT. FIRST OF ALL THE WORD "KINKY HAIR" IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ONE TO A LOT OF BLACK PEOPLE. ASK YOUR BLACK FRIENDS WHICH WORD IS MORE APPROPRIATE. ALSO, ETHIOPIANS ARE A VERY VERY VERY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE - YOU HAVE JET BLACK DARK ETHIOPIANS AND THOSE WHO ARE MORE HINDU/BLACK. THOSE "EUROPEAN" FEATURES YOU REFER TO ARE MORE ASIAN/HINDU/MIDDLE EASTERN FEAUTURES THAN EUROPEAN. AND WHAT IS THE POINT YOU MAKE WITH THIS DISTINCTION? IN MY CITY, WE HAVE A LARGE EHTIOPIAN POPULATION, I HAVE MET FEW GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE PROUD OF THEIR COLOR AND HERITAGE. THIS IS WHY THE RASTAFARIANS LOOKED TO ETHIOPIA AND HAILE SELASSIE AS THEIR PROPHET - THERE IS AN IMMENSE LEVEL OF BLACK PRIDE IN THAT CULTURE. ETHIOPIANS ARE NOT JUST CULTURALLY IMMERSED, THEY ARE ALSO RACIALLY IMMERSED IN PRIDE. SO IMMERSING ZAHARA IN HER BLACKNESS IS ULTIMATELY VERY ETHIOPIAN.

ANGE FYI: ETHIOPIA WAS ONE OF THE FEW, IF NOT THE ONLY, BLACK REPUBLIC TO NOT FALL TO WHITE EUROPEAN RULE IN AFRICA. IT AND HAITI ARE CONSIDERED THE FIRST TRUE BLACK REPUBLICS IN THE WORLD.

Many, many hours later I am still trying to figure out what DILF means about Brad. After all this time it better be something good!

Coming late to this board, I'm overwhelmed by you guys' comments.

Sister girl, lylian, I've found a compatriot! (To Lisa if she's still here, this blog isn't cliquish. I'm fairly new here but yet I've been welcomed with open arms because I try to interact with the names I recognize. Believe me, there isn't any exclusivity as long as one is respectful and not hateful.) To add to the cultural identity debate, I think because Angie will be raising Zahara in America, assimilation will be the primary force, as with any ethnic nationality has to assimilate to an extent to the melting pot of American culture. It doesn't mean one has to abandon one's native culture, but it would be difficult not to adopt American culture simply by osmosis with the range of food, music, entertainment, vernacular lingo/slangs, sense of humor, etc.

I'm actually an immigrant. Though I am very proud of my native culture and have self-learned the history (cause American education certainly isn't going to do it), culture and language. My parents weren't too concerned about maintaining culture as they probably thought it would be naturally retained. But what they failed to take into account that living in America surrounded 360 degrees by American pop culture and going to American public schools, one can easily lose the native cultural orientation. I'm still lost on what are the preferred protocols under certain social situations, which is why I have to rely on asking relatives who were more steeped in our native culture or immigrated much later in their lives (resulting in more exposure of the native culture).

In any event, I have no identity problems in my eating American (e.g., meatloaf, BBQ), Italian (spaghetti, pizza), French (crepes) or any other ethnic dining available in this country. Nor do I have any quibbles about my love of American music and dance. I enjoy American sports (basketball has become quite global and becoming popular even in China). Those tastes and preferences don't deny me my cultural identity, as I know who I am and where I've come from.

In the same token, I don't need to wear ethnic clothes to demonstrate my cultural pride. Hell, even in my native country, they don't wear the traditional clothes for everyday wear; maybe for weddings and other special occasions.

So, I wouldn't be so concerned about Zahara losing any of her cultural identity because of how she is dressed. I have no doubts that Angie will teach as much as she can about Ethiopia to Zahara. Plus, she will no doubt take Zahara on many trips back to Ethiopia to keep her roots intact.

On Angie "looking" aloof, appearances can be deceiving. To an extent I give off that same impression despite the fact I will talk to anybody and befriend any class of people. I'm friendly with the maintenance workers, service workers, etc. I don't give wealthy people any more attention because of their higher class.

Yet, I had a friend tell me that she thought I was unapproachable before I had befriended her. After she got to knew me, she admired me so much that she saw me as a role model (without my intention). Men, except married men, seem so intimidated by me they need to get mutual acquaintances to ask me for a date or tell me they have a crush on me. (No, I have never accepted any married men's comeons! It's not my thing, but neither do I judge women who do.) I'll smile at strangers and even say "Hi" when we pass each other, but in general I don't walk around with a smile on my face.

I'm certainly not Angelina gorgeous (in my humble opinion), but I can imagine how a beautiful woman like her can be easily perceived as stuck-up and arrogant when all accounts indicate otherwise. She is rated among the easiest to get an autograph. In candids, you will always see her looking directly into the stranger or fan's eyes while smiling. You will read many accounts of fans meeting her and remarking how atentive she is and what interest she shows to them.

The rest of the hate, I'm going to ignore. But I do want to give my respect for Elena for what she's overcome and the kind person she's become.

I am not a chinnifer fan I have news for you I am Black. Jamaican parents,I am a typical Jamican Mutt mixture,having been raised in a culture where people don't have hang ups when it comes to race,the term Kinky Hair is never offensive,Kinky hair Kinky Reggae. Class is more a big issue in Jamaica not race and let me give you a little history about the Haitian Revolution,it was a Jamaican by the name if Bookman Dutty,who instigated the whole uprising,check your history books dear,that is why Time Magazine gave him the credit and not Toussaint.So Haiti have a Jamaican to thank for that sorry I was not raised with any hang ups where race is concerned.

AddictedtoBAMZ+1

DILF means Dad I Like to F#$%

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN | March 1, 2006 12:36 AM

very nice post...learn something new everyday. I am sure AJ and BP will help Z embraces her culture heritage. Now let us just be happy for them, admire them from afar and enjoy their movies as a fan. .

"Ange, some of us are old enough not to care about these celebrities as much as you."

But you care so much to be spending immense time to post your obsessive hate for these celebrities.

You're fucked up.

Why is it that the haters constantly rag that they aren't Jennifer fans but they're the ones who bend over backwards to prop up Jennifer or defend her bitchiness or no talent?

Why is it the haters have such a problem of Jennifer being bashed they don't like seeing her name dragged through the mud while they seem to have no problem with Angelina's getting muddied?

Haters blow.

haters blow | March 1, 2006 12:54 AM

You are confused. You make it sound as if the 'hate' comments are coming from the same person. Wrong. There is no "obsessive hate" as you call it becasue TONS of people have posted negative comments - not the same person. In the case of BAMZ supporters, Ange, Lou etc etc are obsessive coz they are here all day and night!

I am saying this and then I'm going to bed,Why are you non Bamz fans complaining you can't state your opinion.We don't care if you state you opinion,we just don't want profanity when you state it.Ange and I have stated our opinion quite a bitt tonight,but we have not been verbally abusive to anyone.This site has some double standards going on,people can call Angie whore all day but thats fine,but if we mention Jen's name and I MEAN JUST MENTION HER NAME without calling her any sort of names you people flip out.I'm sick of hearing about it,but what really gets me you don't like these people ,but your here everyday all day,looking at their pictures,you follow all the news about them.Yes this is a free country,but I don't care for Jen and I don't care to look at her pictures , and I will never log a comment on her site because I don't care about her so why waste my time.

I am not a chinnifer fan,I am the last person on this board that you should be preching to about Rastafarians and their ideology,They are mostly full of BS Bob Marley included (as much as I love him). They for the most part love dating white women,outside of Rita Marley,Bob had all his children with women that were borderline white. The Culture in Jamaica for people from a certain economic background has more ties to England than it does to Africa. Class is the big thing not race. How she choses to raise Zahara should be her own business,and self rightous Black people need to stay out of it. It is a known fact that White people are more likely to go into one of these countries and adopt. It just kills me how a lot of us like to talk loud and do nothing. If you wanted her to be raised ethnically correct,then you should have gone over there and adopt. It's people like you that are preventing black children from being adopted by whites here so instead Europeans are coming in and doing the adoptions.

Anonymous haters like to hide as multiple persons when they are the same ones.

Why does Karen, Tasha, HB, mara all post with the same abnormal double-spaced paragraphs? Stop morphing bitches.

While Ange, Lou, and other BAMZ supporter keep coming back to a thread of celebrities they love and to posters they love, haters keep poking their eyes with visions that irritate themselves to no end. Anybody have ipecac syrup for these fucked up morons?

Sorry, but some of us defenders have to use the language understandable to the haters. Go fuck yourselves.

ange | February 28, 2006 06:28 PM

I don't see Angelina making many movies from here out, but one of my hopes is that a bio of Ava Gardner is offered to her before to long. She would be so perfect to bring that wild beauty's story to the big screen. I really have had this one on my mind for years now, and I'd love for it to come to fruition.

jpf

Haters Blow you have the wrong person.

haters blow

Hey, Lou and Ange, just want to let you both know you have my support. And you're both making a better case with your arguments than the haters/detractors/whinge artists.

It never ceases to amaze me the length the haters will dog on every little detail about BAMZ. Can you imagine how delightful these haters must be around? Negative this, negative that.

Anon JPF, she would be the perfect Ava Gardener,with that Goodnight Beautiful people.

Anonymous | March 1, 2006 12:11 AM

JUSTIFIABLE and intelligent posts against Brangelina come out. You feeling attacked because we insult these celebrities? Hmmmm, I wonder why you feel so attacked? Ange, some of us are old enough not to care about these celebrities as much as you. But we're old enough to comment on their actions if we feel they are wrong and are setting a bad example.

...JUSTIFIABLE MY ASS!!!

ANGE 12:46, BOY YOU OPENED A CAN OF WORMS BECAUSE YOU JUST MENTIONED TWO CULTURES I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

I HAVE MANY JAMAICAN FRIENDS AND HAVE SPENT MUCH TIME IN JAMAICA (NUFF RESPECT). I CONSIDERED THE RASTA FAITH THEN DECIDED IT WAS TOO DISCIPLINED FOR ME. ANYWAY, I KNOW FOR A FACT JAMAICA HAS ONE OF THE WORST COLORIST ISSUES IN THE CARIBBEAN. THE ECONOMIC STRUCTURE OR POWER OF THE ISLAND IS THE HANDS OF ELITE GROUPS, USUALLY NOT BLACK. THE CHINESE, EAST INDIAN MERCHANTS WHO CAME OVER WIDELY IN THE 30'S AND FORTIES, THE MIDLLE EASTERN POPULATION ALL CONTROL THE ECOMOMIC SECTOR. UP UNTIL MANLEY (WHO WAS MIXED), THE HEADS OF STATES WERE ALL FROM MIXED FAMILIES OR THOSE OF VERY LIGHT SKIN. PLEASE READ "CATCH A FIRE" THE BIOGRAPHY OF BOB MARLEY. IT IS THE BEST ACCOUNT OF JAMICAN RACIAL POLITICS AND INEQUALITY. THE SHANTY TOWNS OF KINGSTON AND OTHER CITIES ARE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK. WHILE THE ELITE ARE PREDOMINANTLY LIGHT OR FOREIGN. LET'S NOT EVEN TALK ABOUT THE ENGLISH INFLUENCE & PRESENCE. (SPEAKING LIKE A BRIT AS OPPOSED TO A JAMAICAN). BLACK JAMAICAN WOMEN FRIENDS OF MINE HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED BY A SYSTEM THAT SEES THEIR AFROCENTRIC LOOKS AS LESS THAN DESIRABLE. WHILE THE LIGHT SKINNED WOMEN WERE PRAISED. IN HER AUTOBIOGRAPHY, RITA MARLEY, WIDOW OF BOB, TALKS ABOUT THIS. CINDY (MOTHER OF JUNIOR GONG) CALLED HER ORDINARY ONCE AND RITA SAYS IN HER BOODK THAT CINDY WAS THE BIRACIAL UPPER CLASS WOMAN AND RITA WAS SEEN AS THE DARK SKINNED POOR GIRL. JAMAICA KINCAID ALLUDES TO COLORIST ISSUES IN HER WRITINGS. IN JAMAICA, TEH LANGUAGE AS IN MANY BLACK CULTURES THAT LOOKS DOWN ON DARK SKINNED PEOPLE IS VERY COMMON (COMMENTS ON NAPPY HAIR, DARK SKIN OR FOR LIGHT SKIN PEOPLE "NICE HAIR" AND NICE COMPLEXION WHEN TALKING ABOUT LIGHT SKIN). ALSO BOB MARLEY TALKS ABOUT KINKY REGGAE AND NATTY DREAD BECAUSE USING THOSE VERY TERMS ARE WAYS OF TAKING OWNERSHIP OF A TERM THAT WAS USED TO DEMORALIZE BLACK JAMAICANS HISTORICALLY. THE RASTAS KNOW VERY WELL THIS EXPERIENCE OF BEING CHASTISED IN JAMAICA FOR THEIR HAIR AND APPEARANCE. .

HAITI: BOOKMAN WAS INDEED A JAMAICAN SLAVE WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR A CEREMONY AT "BOIS CAYMAN" A VODOO CEREMONY ACTUALLY THAT PRECEDED THE REVOLUTION. HAITIANS PRAISE BOUKMAN. THERE IS A FAMOUS HAITIAN BAND CALLED "BOUKMAN EKSPERYANS" (BOOKAMN EXPERIENCE) - BUY THEIR MUSIC - THEY ARE AMAZING. HOWEVER, BOOKMAN IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HAITIAN REVOLUTION. TOUSSAINT L'OUVERTURE ORGANIZED AND MASTERMINDED THE REVOULTION AND WHEN HE WAS CAPTURED BY THE FRENCH, JEAN-JACQUES DESSALINES TOOK OVER WHERE HE LEFT OFF. (DESSALINES WAS VERY ANTI-WHITE AND ANTI-LIGHT). THE HAITIAN REVOLUTION OF 1804 (THE FIRST SUCCESSFUL AND ONLY SUCCESFUL SLAVE REVOLT) WAS ENTIRELY ORCHESTRATED BY HAITIAN FORMER SLAVES. PLEASE READ "BLACK JACOBINS" A QUINTESSENTIAL WORK ON THE HAITIAN REVOLUTION.

YOU ARE MINSINFORMED AND UNEDUCATED ON THIS ISSUE. YOU NEED TO DO MORE HOMEWORK OTHERWISE DON'T BE SO COCKY ON THINGS YOU CLEARLY KNOW LITTLE ABOUT.

If you type in 'hate + "jennifer aniston"' on Google, you get around 426,000 results. But if you type 'hate + "angelina jolie"' you get 709,000. You were right BAMZ suckers. There all too many "haters" like you said. Thank you for spreading the word and making it thrive.

To all haters, you're attacking the wrong person. I'm for BAMZ+1.

Ange, hope you know I was defending your interest here as opposed to the haters keep coming back to topics they supposed "don't care for."

For all the denials that they aren't Jennifer fans, why is it that haters take the Jennifer's position that she has no responsibility whatsoever to the breakdown of her marriage? It's okay to castigate Brad and Angelina while the saintly Jennifer stays clean, as if she wasn't at least 1/2 responsible for not holding up her end of the bargain of a partnership?

It's the new hater tactic of oppressing the bashing of Jennifer, as if they weren't fans of hers, the bashing wouldn't matter. But indeed, they do get upset by the bashing of Jennifer.

If you type in "love" and "Angelina Jolie," you will get 6,320,000 hits.

"Jennifer Aniston" and "love" will get 2,830,000 hits.

Angelina is the clear WINNER!

Oh I would like to see her playing Ava Garner as well, I heard that she might star opposite Jonhny Depp in the remake of Wuthering Height....wow, now that could be another blockbuster for sure. I will keep my eyes and ears open for that news to be confirm ...mean while, ange, lou, cindy2, and all other BAMZ supporters, goodnight and sweet dream.

ALSO YOU MAKE A DEGRADING COMMENT ABOUT RASTAS. I CANNOT PARTAKE FOR I DETRACT FROM EVER ATTACKING SOMONE'S RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION. I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARE MUSLIM, CATHOLIC OR WHATEVER. I CANNOT ATTACT SOMEONE'S RELIGION. THE RASTAS I MET ARE PEACEFUL PEOPLE. BOB MARLEY DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO SINGING ABOUT INJUSTICE. I DON;T CARE ABOUT HIS PRIVATE LIFE. I AM NOT HALF THE PERSON THAT MAN WAS SPIRITUALLY. HOW CAN I ATTACK HIM AS YOU DO? I AM A BUDDHIST. MARRIED TO A WHITE MAN, BY THE WAY. AND LIGHT SKINNED WITH GREEN EYES (AND THE WHITE KIDS STILL MADE LOTS OF FUN OF ME AT SCHOOL CAUSE MY MOM KEPT MY HAIR NATURAL AND FRIZZY) SO I KNOW FOR A FACT THIS "IT'S CLASS NOT COLOR" ARGUMENT YOU HAVE IS TOTALLY INACCURATE. WRONG PERSON TO TRY TO PASS THAT OFF TO.

Well I don't know that Jamaica you are talking about,and Rita is Cuban,Jamaica Knkaid is from Trinidad and it doesn't change the fact taht Ratafarians with all their "Back to Africa Mentality" still have a preference for White Women,but I guess it's no fault of theirs right,part of the legacy of Slavery. Once again Race in Jamaica is a non-issue,the Black people here would like to make it an issue. Nowhere on a person born in Jamaica is Race listed on their Birth Certificate. Class is the big issue,poor Jamaicans will tell visitors anything they want to hear to scam them out of a dollar,believe it is just not deep there.

Cindy2....you are killing me...Angelina Jolie + love=priceless...goodnight from California

So ANGE you r an African American? Do you realize that African AMERICANS r the most hated blacks in the world? Jamaicans, Africans, you name it, they dont like you because you give their culture a bad name.

Yeah. so much for that haters' line of attack by showing how much hits haters have. Lovers are better at spreading their love. Haters die from lack of opportunities to breed.

Always good to see you around nancy. Hope you will toss us another bone, all right? ;)

Ange, I would help you with your debate but I'm not an expert in the Caribbean region. But as far as clothes and hair go with Zahara, much ado about nothing. She's not a baby doll to be displayed for Ethiopia show-and-tell. She's foremost a little human being, free to identify herself as she or her mother wishes.

I am not African American,read my posts again I am 100% Jamaican. Jamaican by birth,no race onmy birth certificate,American by natuarlized Citizenship. I made the point because I was not raised with any racial hang ups.

So ANGE you r an African American? Do you realize that African AMERICANS r the most hated blacks in the world? Jamaicans, Africans, you name it, they dont like you because you give their culture a bad name.
Anonymous | March 1, 2006 01:36 AM

There's another of the hater's racist "opinions".

How ironic that an African-power preacher decided to marry a white man instead. Many African-Americans would see her as a sellout.

I'M NOT A CHINNIFER FAN, heard of the Shift key? You don't have to type all in caps. It's considered rude to do so.

Thank you Cindy2,that is all I am saying,that it is Angelina's right to dress her the way she choses.If you were raised as a Westerner,there is nothing wrong with acting and looking like one. I don't wear vibrant colours I wear mostly black,I am a product of this culture. How many Black people in the West wear Afrocentric clothing not many.

NOT CHINNIFER FAN was so validated by marrying a Caucasian man that she thinks her old schoolmates are jealous. Sellout, alright.

Thought I would check my work e-mail and see how much bloodshed had been spilled on this site.
Cindy2 , thank you! I feel sad for these anon. posters who hide their negative sanctimonious comments behind "anonymous". Why should we believe that it is many people rather than a few people. who are posting them? Why not assume responsibility for your words or are you ashamed to claim them? You know it would be very easy to find out who is who. In fact I think I will ask Jared to check the posts addresses ... I was told that you go from site to site hating , a lot of you were on Perez until everybody but you left . You poison blogs until the comment boards are shut down. Have you ever heard the expression that if you are not part of the solution then you are definitely part of the problem.

Cindy you are so on the mark. Communicate with those who are here to share something besides an outward expression of their own personal turmoil... I have noticed that there is a common thread with a lot of us. No, not who we support or don's support, but we have all lived lives that have exposed us to the world and to life. Which has gifted us with being able to distill what is important and what isn't about life.

To all you Anon posters...I have to wonder at what level of comprehension you are reading. (I remember reading that show like Friends appealed to the portion of people who couldn't read pass 6th grade leve. Others found it boring and inane. ) Because you keep bringing up things that have been documented and footnoted to validate what you call lies. You throw out accusations that have no basis of thruth. If you handle your personal life the way you handle yourself on this site. your life must be very lonely. For nobod wants to be with someone as mean-spirited and bitter as you all sound.

Yeah, me too. My wardrobe favors black because black is a classic color. My fashion sense trends to classics. But I do like to throw in a few colorful and bright colors in my closet.

Black is also my favorite color for a lot of things, such as cars.

As much as I love my own native dress, I'm not particularly comfortable wearing it, and I don't have one in my closet. Ever seen the movie "In the Mood for Love"? Gorgeous outfits, but not for me. And it's not going to make me any less Chinese because I choose not to wear that clothing. Nor am I expected to wear Mao suits. Clothing is the exterior and has nothing to do with my interior.

1:31, Ange, I'd like to end this debate on this: Race is class and class is race. Most poor people in Jamaica are dark skinned Black people. Most rich people in Jamaica are light skinned people. Race is class and class is race. It is about race.

The former slaves, when freed, ended up in theshanty towns while the heirs of the great British plantations became the elite. Their language and attitudes toward dark skinned people is atrocious. Next time you are in Jamaica, listen to teh words used to describe dark verses light. Fascinating.

Also, how can you scientifically prove that Rastas prefer white women? Most Rastas marry other Rasta women, who are usually black. Are you saying they have a secret desire for white women? If this is scientifically true, then how does this invalidate their culture as a whole? Rastas believe in Ethioppia because it is their Mecca. They believe Haile Selassie is a direct descendent of the King of David and thus the link to God. It is less about Africa, in terms of race, as it is about the link to the offspring of David and the black queen Sheba. So in fact, this link they believe in leads to a Jewish figure David. What Rastas connect to in terms of Ethiopia is Ethiopia's defiance of outside, albeit, White rule.

Jamaica Kincaid is not from Trinidad but from Antigua - just mentioned her bec she is from Caribbean and deals with these very issues in her work. Rita's parents worked in Cuba as did many Jamaicans who migrated to Cuba to work in the sugar cane fields as did many Haitians. Grace Jones is another Jamaican who was not considered desirable in her country for her skin color.

Anyway, whatever one thinks of it, why judge someone's idea of how they are getting to God? I respect Rastas as I respect all religions. Buddhism just works for me on a personal level, tha's all.

I guess people don't want to hear about this ranting either. They are here to talk of Brangelina. I think this is Brangelina connected because Zahara is Ethiopian born.

Well then try telling that to the rich Africans or to Kofi Annan. I am a product of my environment,and how I was raised,I was just not raised that way I don't have the hang ups no chips on my shoulder. Unless someone call me something to my face I don't ever know if a person is being racist,because I am just not looking for it. You can debate all you want,the fact is I am Jamaican and you are not,so your view is solely from the outside. Goodnight Much love to you all.

Anon 1:48: Sellout because I married a White man? Atually nothing asks me to be more strong and centered in who I am then to marry a White man and you are proof of that. We walk down the street and get stares,some people comment. We went to the South togetjher once and everyone thought we were aliens. No, a sellout black woman can't marry a White man in this society. You need to be tough with thick skin to deal with the negativity. I am secured enough in myself to understand the man I am with does nto define me. I happen to be with a very good looking and doting man and that is part of the weird jealousy I get from "friends".

TO CLARIFY THE COLOR OF DRESS COMMENT I MADE: YOU SEE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT GETS LOST IN TRANSLATION. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS: BLACK WOMEN HAVE BEEN TRADITIONALLY TOLD TO WEAR COLORS THAT PLAY DOWN THEIR DARK SKIN ( I AM SHARING SOME REAL IN-HOUSE SECRETS HERE). SO THAT IS WHY NOW BLACK WOMEN ARE PROUD TO WEAR COLORFUL THINGS. MY OWN GRANDMA WHO IS VERY VERY LIGHT SKINNED USED TO SAY THINGS LIKE "SO AND SO SHOULD WEAR WHITE INSTEAD OF THAT COLOR BECAUSE IT MAKES HER LOOK SO DARK". I AM SAYING THAT ZAHARA NEEDS TO BE IN SOME COLORGUL OUTFIT TO BRING OUT HER BEAUTIFUL HUE.

WHY IS IT THAT SOME OF YOU FANS ONLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BANAL THINGS ABOUT THESE KIDS AS IF THEY ARE NOT REAL PEOPLE BUT ONCE THETOPIC IS PLACED IN SOME SOCIAL CONTEXT IT MAKES YOU NERVOUS? VERY INTERESTING.

I FIND DEBATES PLACED IN SOCIAL CONTEXT TO BE MORE FULFILLING THAN JUST MAKING COMMENTS. I CAN UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE FOR THAT THOUGH. THIS IS, AFTER ALL, SUPPOSED TO BE LIGHT FUN. I GET THAT.

No, you're a sellout to believe that scoring a white man validates your worth as a person. Who cares?

You know for a fact that many African-Americans think that going to the white side is selling out. Your rationalizations prove it.

"I wonder why people say that people are another race. It seems that we are all running at the same speed and heading towards the same destination. The only winners are those of us who have made this a better place for having been here."

Bottom line isn't that what is matters? That we live this life having made a difference. So why are you hating someone who is trying to do that. You all call her a whore. But remember Mary Magdalena? Are you so much holier than Christ that you won't do what he did? He did not judge her and call her a whore.... But you????

Ange 2:06:tell that to Kofi Anan? What? I don't have a chip on my shoulder either. I went to exclusive New England private schools all my life. My parents are not from this country but came here with their graduate degrees in their pockets. I have traveled the world and do lots of research and I can tell you Jamaica is a problem socially and I have hope that it can be fixed. It will take Jamaicans of all walks of life to admit there is a problem though. I have friends who are Jamaican writers and are Jamaicans in Academia who are very convinced that things need to change. The violence in Jamaican is sky high right now. I have to say your ignorance is appalling and sad. With this, I end my debate but you need to start being more aware. Just because you don't look for racism and injustice, does not mean it is not there. In Jamaica, it is blatant. Angelina is not from Ethiopia but she cares enough to get involved in its problems. Just because I am not from Jamaica does not mean anything. Good night.

2:14AM, The African-Americans I deal with are all mostly Ivy League educated and wordly. Some are married to people of other races and some are not. We have worked hard to not define ourselves by these old definitions of "selling out". A lot of us were told we were "selling out" for speaking proper English, or doing well in school. Some black kids still believe ( we tutorr some) that doing good in school, speaking properly, dating certain people is "selling out".

We, hard working smart, African-Americans don't place such limitations on ourselves. Some great African-Americans have "sold out" I suppose: Sidney Poitier, Sammy Davis Jr, Whoopi Godlberg, Alfre Woodard, Harry Belafonte, Lena Horne, Dorothy Dandridge, Alice Walker, etc - they have all dated inetracially thus "sold out". I am in good company.

WELL I FEEL SORRY FOR U THEN ANGE, BEING JAMAICAN AND FOLLOWING AFRICAN AMERICAN NASTY MENTALITY. WHY FUCK WITH YOUR OWN CULTURE? YOU R IGNORANT & A FOOL!

Go BAMZ + 1!!!! Love this family.
To all Haters GET A LIFE. Maniston is UGLY and Vince is too FAT. BOTH = UGLY. ANGÉLINA IS A NATURAL BEAUTY.

I 2:16, All the Jamaicans that were raised like me have the same mind set,I don't care how educated they are,yeah they will Blah Blah Blah,but they are not giving up their uptown lives. The social problems has nothing to do with race and everything to do with claas. Something my mother told me that outside Black people have been trying to shove down our throats since the 60s. Once again it is an issue of economics,maybe before my generation it existed I am telling you I don't know that Jamaica,don't hate me because it was not my experience. You are like all those other self rightous blacks screaming Black Power,but wouldn't live in a Black Ghetto if they paid you to. I don't owe you or anyone else anything,Stupid and uninformed I am not dear.

Ok I am "racist" because I say that African and Jamaicans and so on have more respect for their heritage than African Americans? I am not racist dear. You are blind. The Spaniards in Europe hate Hispanics because they feel Hispanics BUTCHER their culture. Japanese hate many other Asians from other cultures because they feel they are above them. Indians from India feel that Guyanese & Trinadadian Indians are not "real" Indians. Why do these people say such "racist" comments? Because they feel their culture is being butchered. I disagree with most of their superiority complexes, but then I understand also. I have many friends of different races and my African born friends all say they are sick and tired of the negative, CLASSLESS, undiginified attitudes of the blacks in America. They do not even want to be associated with them. Same goes for whites. There are many Europeans who hate American Whites calling them dumb and stupid and classless and so forth but dont realize they are doing so.

To all haters kiss my ass

This is not a poltical blog,it is a celebrity blog,on that note Goodnight. And Anon 2:26 you are the idiot Western Culture refers to the entire west.

Ange, you are too negative and dead set in your ignorance to continue debating with. Whatever girl! Rich blacks who don't live in the ghetto can't be socially conscious, huh? Whatever. Good night to you too and enjoy your perfect paradise no racial problems Jamaica. You're the only one living there sweetie. Bob Marley was definitely not from that Jamaica. Thank God. Good night.

538 posts as of now. Internet CAT FIGHT!!!

It's not outmarrying that makes anyone sellouts, it's the reason. When you subconsciously believe you've upgraded because your with a Caucasian, that is selling out just like OJ Simpson with his fascination of white women. Love is love but not when it's at the expense that African men are lesser mates whether subconsciously or overtly. The White is right mentality.

From your rants to ange, you definitely sound like you hold a high opinion of yourself because of getting a white man. How is that even pertinent to the argument?

You know how Black women feel about Black men outmarrying, too. They are sellouts.

Whoopi Goldberg, the sellout, who encouraged Ted Danson to go black face to a Friar's Roast. Great company? Backstabber to her race.

Why you keep bugging ange when you keep saying that you're ending the debate and saying good night?

brangelina drama | February 28, 2006 05:55 PM

that was funny!! & with a hint of truth! got any more?

Do you realize that African AMERICANS r the most hated blacks in the world?

^^
That makes you a racist. Opinion not borne out by fact.

I wish more African Americans would be more into Africa, and Bob Marley is cool, but so is Baba Mal. Celebrate and prop up your heritage don't go after each other, like that silly gangster rap.

Anon 3:09: Are you saying all Blacks who marry outside the race are sellouts?

Are all Whites who marry outside the race sellouts?

Or are these limitations only placed on Blacks? If so, are these limitations placed on Blacks because of the history of Blacks vis a vis, slavery so that because of this difficult history, we must uphold a certain loyalty to marrying within the race? If that is the case, att which point, do you think, are Blacks allowed to break from this history and lay it to rest and have the freedom to make choices that are not aligned with tha history?

Should I give up my nice car too? Should I sell my house and move to the projects? Have I sold out in that sense?

Should I have not gone to Graduate school and college? For I was often the only Black in my Graduate classes. Did I sell out then?

Please, be so kind, and give me the "Sell-out" and the"Non Sell Out" list. I want to be clear I stay within the boundaries of what is expected of me as a Black woman.

Question: To satisfy the NO SELL OUT list, do I give up my right to free will too? What I mean is if I want to do something like date a guy of another race, do I forfeit that right for the sake of not selling out?

The reasons why one dates of another race: How, may I ask, do we go to every individual Black woman/person and determine what those pscyho-emotional reasons are? Too be true to the list and to be certain we are catching the right Blacks for the sell out list.

You see, I am assuming you are saying some Blacks have legitimate reasons for dating outside the race and you suggest some don't. How should we determine this? Does the person have to tell you that their reason for dating interracially is valid or do we examine them? If so, how is the examination conducted, should it be clinical or otherwise?

Please let me know.

And, oh, does this apply to Asian women (high number date white men)? Does it apply to Latinas? Or is it just Black women?

And ultimately if a Black woman dates a White man or marries one based on her self-hate as a Black woman - how does this dysfunctional reason for marrying differ from women who marry of the same race for money, out of loneliness, who marry for social status, who marry to spite their families, who marry because they are afraid? Are these circumstances less or more severe than the dysfunction of marrying because of teh man's race.

Just curious. I want to make sure I get it right. You can jsut do an Excel spread sheet list and write "SELL OUT in one column and all the actions one can take that fits that list and then NOT SELLL OUT on another column, etc.

Thanks for your help on this. I really appreciate it.

For all that higher education, Not a Chinnifer Fan lagged behind in reading comprehension to go off on an irrelevant tangent of outmarriage rates with other races. And she doesn't know the meaning of "good night". Still here, eh?

But she does love to brag about how much better she is as a light-skinned black with green eyes - another area of intra-racism among blacks. She's light skinned, has green eyes and a white man! And she has a nice car and house as if blacks by default don't have those possessions when nobody even said that blacks belong in ghettos or can't succeed.

See, Chinnifer, the more you post, the more you show the real underlying self-loathing you have for blacks.

brangelina drama | February 28, 2006 05:55 PM

that was funny!! & with a hint of truth! got any more?

Anonymous | March 1, 2006 03:11 AM

u want more????here is my finger to put on your cochie cochie mama!!

brangelina drama is a fucked up bitch like u stupid!!

Ah Anon 3:38: In classic "I am losing the argument" back peddling mode, you go for the inaccuracies, huh? It's brilliant. Taking all of my comments out of context like a bad political ad campaign. I mentioned my light skin, etc because I was stating how awful it was that colorism exists in the Black community. And my nice house huh? I suppose when Martin Luther King talked about the dream, he was not talking about that kind of progress huh? I am proud of everything I have cause I worked hard for it. I said good night to Ange not to you dear friend.

You talk about selling out in interracial marriages but you can't have the real argument on it which demands the specifics. I LOVE IT!

For the record, I tutor kids in the projects and work with underaged teen mothers in predominantly Black neighborhoods besides my regular work. I have also worked in the past with teen boys who hustle and contracted AIDS. My AIDS work brought forth my respect of Angelina Jolie.

For fun, I come to blogs like these. My husband and I are dying laughing at you by the way. How sad you are. How so so sad! It's hilarious.

I will leave you alone now. I am sure you have some socially conscious work to do right now to uphold your vigilant fight for the underprivilidged! Keep that SELL OUT list intact and maybe get a BB gun and ZAP the next Black person you see who is selling out. And don't forget the light skinned, nice car, nice house ones in particular. They are the worst! Start with Colin Powell - the most visible light skin nice car, nice house kind of Black guy - oops but he married a Black woman - SHoot! I can't get my BLACK SELL OUT LIST RIGHT! . Sorry. And good night Angel. Sleep tight. What an Ass you are.

TO I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN:

i know u love ange because she's one of the bamz+1 family supporter as you are...so don't bother arguing with stupid anon...s/he's focusing on racism....i admire u coz u don't have the ghetto mentality like anon has...

s/he's jealous because she can never be successful like u!!

bamz+1 rocks!! and their supporters are cool and hot like their idols!! :) :)

THIS FORUM GONE FROM A MATURE DISCUSSION TO DISGUSTING, TRASH TALK. THE STENCH OF IGNORANCE IS OVERWHELMING. IT HAS BECOME LIKE THE REST OF THEM. I WILL NEVER EVER COME HERE AGAIN.

"What an Ass you are."

Nope, you've proven you're the real ass on your own multiple times. And there's no backpedalling from me, sweetheart. It's simply funny you have to be diagrammed an argument before launching into a tangent that was addressed in the original argument. I don't have the patience to spell out everything in my post when it's clear from the get-go.

The one keeping a list of the "sellouts" who married outside their race is you. Funny how you seem not to have a problem with Whoopi Goldberg prodding her white boyfriend to mock blacks by appearing with a black face. Right on, Whoopi!!

Collin Powell married a black woman! Props to him he didn't feel he needed a white woman to make him on par with the white class. Props to Barak Obama - an uprising playmaker in the Senate - to marry a black woman, embracing the beauty of black women without the inferiority complex that white is validating (unlike Chinnifer here).

Anonymous | March 1, 2006 04:08 AM

You have a problem of keeping straight BAMZ supporters, don't you? Chinnifer was the one who began with her attack on Angelina and Zahara.

They are so cute as a family.

So, uh, Zahara's getting to be a big girl, huh? She must be nearly 14 months now. No wonder BP is carrying her in a sling instead of in his arms. She must be getting pretty heavy by now. I wonder if she's walking at home yet. A lot of babies/toddlers are able to stand and walk, but get carried or put in a stroller in public because they're still kind of unsteady on their feet.

Anyway, she sure is a cutie. So, Maddox must be nearly 5 by now, if Zahara's over a year. Do you think AJ & BP will enroll him in regular kindergarten or get a tutor so they can keep travelling?

For all the proclamation by I'm Not A Chinnifer Fan that she is a Brangelina fan, why does she think the worst of a setting? Why presume Brad would even give Zahara the dropped baby bottle when it's clear he put the bottle in his pocket? And even if he did, it's not as if babies don't put bunch of stuff into their mouths which have rested on the ground. A little bit of germs isn't necessarily bad. It strengthens the immune system with some exposure of good and mild germs. Check out the studies of children with asthma living in pristine, sterile environments to the lower incidents with those on farms.

Why presume anything would be wrong for Angelina to fly in a plane when medical research has shown there is nothing wrong with it? She's flying with highly seasoned flight instructors and in a smaller plane, she's not flying that high up in altitude. Why presume Zahara can't walk when all we see are a fraction of Zahara's life? She could be running around in the apartment for all we know.

It's those fake Brangelina fans that elect to not give the family the benefit of the doubt with their criticisms that expose these so-called fans as frauds. They remind me of unhappy people who are nothing but critical.

They can certainly hire tutors but Americans don't begin to enroll their children in kindergarten until they are 6. Kindergarten is just play time anyway. Maddox is getting that in spades already and learning as he goes along. He's already into astronomy, so Angelina bought him a book about planets.

In the US Kindegarten begins at age five. First grade begins at age six.

You're right Tabitha, my bad.

Been a long time since I went to school. lol

Ignore the HATERS and BAMZ + 1 FANS PLEASE CONTINUE to post comments. This is a beautiful family who have found each other.

For all of you that are so critical and so upset about seeing this family together, get on some therapy for this, talk to your family. and your priest and get on some medications. YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE PEOPLE AND FROM THE LOOK OF THINGS THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. So if the PAPS. snap a picture of them dont expect them to smile and cooperate with them because as far a these people are concerned we are invading their privacy.

It's a brand new day, and last night's posts seem to have been spiraling out of control. Seems all the nasty haters had nothing better to do than to trash this site.

I wish they would just stay at PerezHilton and not come back here. Jared's site is great, and I still enjoy coming here to read nice posts about Brad and Angie, especially from our regulars.

I would like to contribute one comment about Angie's capacity to embrace her children's cultures, she does it lovingly, and I have seen it. Back in July 2005 when we saw all these pictures of Angie's "newly adopted baby daughter Zahara", Angie dressed Z in her African garments, a beautiful pattern of colors that you can tell right away was from Africa. And as for Maddox, she is making sure Mad can speak Khmer, in fact, she is learning the language herself.

Culture is a beautiful thing. I admit being raised in America made me want to forget being a Filipina. But my parents "reminded" me where I came from, and despite the fact that it is a third world country, the Philippines has shown its potential of being a really nice country to travel to.

Diversity in cultures is what makes this world so beautiful. I think it's great that Angie knows the beauty of diversity, and I suspect that Brad has wanted to learn about other cultures and embrace it too, but never had a chance to do that with his ex-wife since she probably did not share in his interests.

Another little fact, Brad had been involved with the ONE organization way before he met Angie, so the two of them really did have SO much in common. I suspect, too, that Brad's ex-wife also didn't share in his humanitarian causes.

Brad and Angie just didn't find each other until one movie finally brought them together. Now a beautiful baby is on the way. And they lived happily ever after.

Well, I see the Perez Hilton spammer's are here. Can I ask a question of the site owner? Why are these types of foul posts being allowed here?

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Even Perez doesn't have this much vulgarity!Someone is playing and needs to stop.

OK WHEN U PEOPLE POST LOOONG ASS POSTS NO ONE READS THEM!! SO, DIVIDE THEM INTO PARAGRAPHS! AND SINCE THERE ARE TOO MANY POSTS HERE AND YOUR PARAGRPHS R NOT COMING OUT, PUT IN ATLEAST 10 BLANK LINES
(THAT MEANS PRESSING "ENTER" 10 TIMES) AND YOU MAY COME OUT WITH PARAGRAPHS. EVEN THOUGH I DONT LIKE MOST OF YOUR POSTS, I DO GET DIZZY FROM SCROLLING THROUGH THESE LONG POSTS WHICH ARE ILLEGIBLE.

Simply because you like to adopt children of various cultures AND IT HAS BEEN DONE BY WOMEN B4 HUNDREDS OF TIMES, does not mean you know a damn thing about their culture. But with the help of friends, children of different ethnicities growing up can learn from friends from their culture. If millions of people from different ethnic backgrounds can grow up in different cultures, adoptive children can grow up fine in homes of different cultures. It's just a matter of introducing them to people from their own culture and taking them to their cultural events. And if Angelina does not want to do that, that's fine too. There r many many natural parents who try to get their children to grow up within their culture but do so unsuccessfully. But atleast these parents r teaching them something.

Also, for all you asians and blacks who r defensive of Angelina because she adopted an asian and a black.... dont be so defensive based on such a shallow reason. There r hundreds of other women who have done the same damn thing. I never see u defending them.

Gidday Matey's/BAMZ + 1 Fans. ":)

I read someone earlier mention "Lainey's" gossip hit! She is a pretty cool chick and of course I agree with many of her arguments, or I absolutely wouldn't visit her site!!! (Pay me for this plug now Lainey!!!). Also, clarifying something else mentioned earlier, she too is A PROFESSIONAL "gossip bioootch", in that 95.9% of the time, she knows EAXACTLY what she is talking about! (ahem...NOT LIKE YOU FREAKING AMATUERS!!! > she rates "Star" very low on her list.)

*whatever* anyways.....thought all you "warring" dudes may just like this simple cut and paste...cheers ":)

JenJen is a bad Friend
Praise Buddha. And I thought I was the only one who saw through the stinking pile of fraud sh*t underneath the over-manufactured and over-coiffed package known as Jennifer Aniston. Apparently not. My inbox was flooded yesterday with a small army of you rejoicing at the NY Daily News report on the 'real' Jen - the insecure, vain, self obsessed Jen who has so deftly played the PR game and re-invented herself as the girl next door. Well according to Nancy Balbirer…she's not.

Here's the summary. There was a book promo in New York the other night for a release called 'The Underminer: Or, the Best Friend Who Casually Destroys Your Life'. Several performers and writers shared personal accounts of their best friend horror stories and Nancy Balbirer's experience involved an actress named 'Jane' who is a virtual mirror image of a certain Friend I know and hate. Turns out that Jennifer and Nancy lived together for a short time in the 80s when both were carving out their careers. Remarkably enough, 'Jane' also shared an apartment with Nancy. 'Jane's' father is a soap actor and her parents are divorced. She went to the High School for the Performing Arts. Jane was also a 'famous sitcom actress' on a show about friends who 'live together in the Village.' Jane ended up moving to LA and transforming her body with lipo and a nose job, a nose she described as coming 'from her Greek half'. She then went on Nutrislim and got skinny and froze her nipples whenever she was trying to land a gig. Sound familiar???

Now all this would be forgivable if 'Jane' wasn't such an ungrateful bitch and even though Nancy let Jane stay with her when she was struggling back East, Jane was rude and inhospitable when Nancy asked for a return favour several years later. She also got Nancy fired from a job on her sitcom after finding out that the producers had offered her a recurring role.

As you would expect, Aniston's publicist promptly denied the claims and the entire story, insisting that Jen barely knows this woman and that everything, every part of the story is untrue, especially the plastic surgery and the manipulation and the part about getting Nancy fired. Uh huh.

Meanwhile, realising that she might have pissed off some powerful Hollywood brokers, Nancy tried to smooth things over by sending a letter of clarification to the NY Daily News and the columnist who reported the story. Instead of retracting her story, all she did was repeat over and over that she never said the name 'Jennifer Aniston' - as recounted in hilarious fashion by the wizards at Gawker - which made a great situation even better, compounding the fact that Jane really is Jen, and reminding us over and over that she was only telling a story about Jane, who happens to share many, many, many similarities with the Chin who shall not be named.

And Ph.D. gossips the world over are now laughing their arses off.

The moral of the story? The Friend is a Fraud, y'all. And to all you rabid Aniston fans who love bombarding me with hate mail and AIDs wishes - trust me, I sympathise with your situation. I know the pity poor me routine was just too hard to resist. I know how refreshing it was at one time to see a completely average, ho hum nobody marry a sex god because it meant that maybe you too could have had a chance at grasping the golden ring. I know how convincing she was as the 'every girl', as the celebrity you would want to have over for dinner, believing she wouldn’t care that you didn't have Moet chilling in the fridge and a Balenciaga throw to put over her shoulders if she felt a chill.

But you need to blow out that candle, ok??? Take it down from your windowsill and extinguish the flame. Because Jennifer Aniston will never be your friend. She will never WANT to be your friend. She will never even PRETEND to want to be your friend. As I've said all along, as I've been saying since that mediocre little twerp got her chance on television - JennyJen ain't much. She is, however, perfect for Tom Cruise. And if there is a Goddess, if the gossip stars ever align, I do hope they find each other one day. One hypocrite to another - it would be true love indeed.

Well, why do we need to defend these women when there are no blog trashing them for adopting those kids.

Meg Ryan adopted a chinese baby, Tom Cruise, Hugh Jackman and Michelle Peifer adopted black baby but nobody make a negative comment about it at all. That's why I always think that a lot of people practise double standard in commenting about Angelina Jolie - adopt from those countries just PR stunt, is she going to instill their original heritage, whoring her kids for PR purpose, etc.

I have seen a lot of photos of Julia Robert with her kids, Weatherspoon with her kids, Hugh Jackman with his, Tom Cruise with his, Madonna and hers, Demi Moore and hers and the list goes on but how come nobody accuse them of whoring their children for media purpose?

Please JJ, save your old classy " Just Jared " by stop the comment board!!!

I think I agree with Piyutra. Too many vile people in here that can't post their oppinion with intelligence and style

Anon 4:24 who said:

"Props to Barak Obama - an uprising playmaker in the Senate - to marry a black woman, embracing the beauty of black women without the inferiority complex that white is validating (unlike Chinnifer here)."

I wonder if you are Black? How dare you state the above. Black people are no longer slaves and are free to marry who they want. Remember, marrying a White person was illegal in some states up til the 80's (on paper anyway). How dare you? Are you Black? If so, you need help. If you are White, then you have set racial relations back 100 years. Leave Whoopi Goldberg alone. She is a Black woman who went from welfare to become an Oscar winner. Black people are proud of her. Who cares who she marries? You are the one who come off sounding racist in this blog. Chinnifer fan is very articulate and smart. We Blacks are supposed to be upwardly mobile. We are not supposed to be one thing. You play into the poor Black stereotype. I am offended by your comment and I don't think I will post here again. You are vile. I can't believe I read the racist stuff you wrote in 2006. How disgusting.

Tia, RIGH-ON!!!

JJ, we love your blog, but people are trashing it. Could you please set some guidelines for those who post on it?

Oh, so you believe that it wasn't wrong for Whoopi to perpetuate a racist mockery when she told Ted Danson to appear in black face. OK, shows where you head is at and you don't understand a thing I said.

You seem to think that all minorities marry for love while we know full well that there are SOME people who suffer from self-loathing of their own race with the worshipping of whites. It seems ok that someone else had accused all Asians in another thread that Asians are conformists and worship white men because neither you, Beth or Chinnifer were bothered by it. While I wasn't even saying that all blacks thought getting a white is being awarded a trophy.

But it is clear from Chinnifer fan that she thinks that marrying a white man makes her some hot chick when it doesn't. Don't care I call her out for it when she was trying to put down Angelina for raising Zahara and arguing with other black posters like Tandem and ange and Rica? Deal with it.

I'm not racist for showing Chinnifer fan to be the self-loathing racist she is with her "OF COURSE, THE REAL REVENGE IS NOW I AM MARRIED TO THIS GORGEOUS HUNK OF A WASP MAN AND ALL THE GIRLS I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH ARE SOOOO JEAULOUS OF ME" What does marrying a WASP man have to do with anything to the worth of a black woman? Why is it necessary for her to question giving up her nice car and house to become more black? When was it that blacks couldn't succeed as implied by her snide response?

I think you need to start from the beginning of Chinnifer's post to get what kind of person she really is at I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN | February 28, 2006 12:33 PM. Then follow all her arguments with the regulars who are BLACK themselves.

The BAMZ supporters have one KEY flaw in their arguments: DO NOT assume that ANYONE who disagrees with your view points regarding Jolie/Brad are JEN lovers!!

This is a BLOG site, not a Brad-Jolie FAN site. Expect differing of opinions at face value. Why mention Aniston's name all the time?

You BAMZ supporters come across as obsessive and psycho when your counter arguments harp on Aniston - rather than on the jist of the argument!

You poor people...you're probably not sleeping at night obsessing over Aniston...

cb - are you obsessed with Jennifer Aniston? Wow - what a LOOOONG post when this blog isn't about her anyway!

Ange, Iam Not A Chinnifer and Anonymous, THANK YOU for sharing your very personal and accurate perception of a very difficult topic.

What has been lost on some people is that what comes out in our post are things that tend to be swept under the rug. Or the elephant in the room that no one wants to bring up.

I am multi-racial, Castillian, Indian and Negro. My children are multi- racial also. I consider myself an American though I put an X on Latina.

But what all of you have mentioned in your posts are also points of view within the Hispanic community.

A few years ago there was a Mexican-American Democratic Candidate here in Texas who referred to another Hispanic politician who had gone to laws school etc. but was a Republican as a " coconut" brown on the outside and white on the inside. I have been called that here too. By other Latinos. As have my children and other minority children who are in the Gifted Programs in their school. By who? Other minorities.

I could go on with this thread, but do I really think it is about race? No, I don't . It is about money and class. I disagree with New Orleans Mayor about his contention that they did not get the help they needed because of race. It wouldn't not have mattered if all those poor people were green. Everyone who was poor suffered . If it just been race, all the poor whites etc. would have made it out of there.

Money is power .Those that have it have power, regardless of color. Look at Oprah... Plain and simple. That is why so many sell their souls for money. Because in our society that is what counts.

I was dissapointed that Oprah took the attitude that she was snubbed at Hermes because she is Black. It was not because of her color. it was because she was an American. And unfortunately some rich American do fit the "Ugly American" stereotype. Like Expecting a store to let them in even though it is past closing hours. They would have done the same regardless what color Oprah skin had been.

I use some of Aesop's fables to help children understand certain life lessons. . Like the one about the 6 blind men who encountered an elephant. Of course because they were blind they were clueless about what they had encountered. They all started feeling the creature . One felt the trunk, one felt a tusk and so on. But from just knowing what one part was, they were still clueless as to what the creature was. Until they started to share with each other what they "saw" with their hands. It was only when they shared their "parts" that they were able to see the "whole" and get a complete picture of the elephant. And that my dear friends is the importance of openining up and listening to different perspectives. We are all a witness to a different view of life. Unfortunately, everyone wants to talk, but few really want to listen. And it is only in listening that we can learn.

My children are multi-racial. They are proud of being a gumbo... As I am. Perhaps one will marry and Asian and we will trully by citizens of the world.

BAMZ rock!

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN not only offended the known people who are Black but even the anonymous ones who are Black with her stereotypes about what is best for Blacks. How can a Black woman offend as many other Blacks as a KKK leader? Easy she puts her foot in her mouth.

Anonymous | March 1, 2006 10:23 AM
^^^^^^^^ Why I beg to differ with you, (oh lil "person" who can't even think of a name to give themselves) but, this blog appears to be about any ole silly/abusive shit!!! Sooooo, as far as being obsessed with Aniston, why NO, not in the least. I have seen 2 whole episodes of Friends, way back wheneverrrr & BORING YAWN! > and I have seen only one of the Maniston's movies...YUCK YUCK YUCK. > She has but one facial expression & can't act for shit.
No you can bet your life on the fact that, if I am obsessed with anyone, it would most definately be Angelina & Brad!!! ":)
dohhhhh soooooooo get yer facts straight!!! HAH HMPPFFFFF pussy.

Elena on Americans:
I think this is cultural, as Americans tend to expect everything as negotiable and making exception is a common place, or rather a way of life. Whereas in Europe I think they normally live by their 'rules' at heart; they have to in order to live in a relatively limited geographical space and everyone to cohabitate. Europeans are puzzled when an American person claims or demands an exception, and thus Americas come across as 'arrogant'. It's just cultural misunderstanding... I would hope...

Why must everyone use profanity to express their opinion?? It makes people look ignorant and unintelligent. Why can we just enjoy the pictures and leave it at that?? Why does this have to become a debate on who is right and who is wrong and who likes who and who is better and who is more racially correct than the other?? Enjoy the pictures people and move on!!

I don't see how I am not Chinnifer fan was offensive. It goes to show Blacks who, in the least, don't conform are seen as Uncle Toms. "Revenge marrying a WASP" - I think she meant to say these women made fun of her and now are jealous of her for the very same reasons they made fun of her. I think it is a great example of racism and how it gets turned on its face. Clearly, Chiinfer fan is maybe the smartest or most educated of the bunch.

Give me a break Anonn and all the other critics. Oprah used to be criticized for "hugging too many White people" on her show. Remember? Every Black person who is successful has been scrutinized for something because people are not used to seeing Black people do what they want and enjoy whatever they want to enjoy.

Oprah is laughing all the way to the Billion dollar bank baby. Stop judging Blacks who don't fit the mold. Who cares? Call me a racist, go ahead. i am sure someone will.

You are not being fair! You are judging I am not a Chinnifer's life based on your experiences. Don't bother to call me a bigot etc... I know what I am and what I am not so names from people I do not know or care about do not bother me.
\I have heard all perpectives not only from friends, patients, and my travels overseas. They are all valid because they all belong to individual's life experiences. If you disagree. perhaps it should encourage you to do some research or perhaps seek out Black women from different cultures and socio-economic levels and start a dialogue. I know that might be a popular thought, to look within for accountability rather than to blame others. One has control of the choices one makes but NO control over what others do... I believe that is what Bill Cosby said and was raked over the coals my the status quo Black America.

I volunteer in a state funded medical facility where 80% of the employees are African American and 20% are Hispanic. I can guarantee you that based on socio-economic level that each was raised in, their perception of life is completely different. Be grateful for this site forum for the opportunity to speak freely and learn.

Unfortunately the majority of people marry for wrong reasons. Not just the ones who marry another race just because . If that wasn't the case we would not have such a high divorce rate.

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN, I read every post of your argument, I agree with the majority of what you said about the state of race and class in jamaica.

I am a native Trinidadian, and for years I would tell my friends that their was no racism in Trinidad. I have been in the USA since I was 16. I went back to Trinidad, 4 years ago for the first time. My heart felt so sad, because I did see racism as clear as day. The haves just happened to be of syrian, east indian, and white american descent.

There were young black people, who have followed the rules of society and gotten University level education, and you know what was the best jobs they could hope for was a cashier at a grocery store. Unless you knew people in the better paying jobs, you were unemployed or a cashier of some sort.

We live sheltered lives, not traveling to much out of our comfort zone, and guess that is why I personally had not felt like their was a problem.

Racism is alive, classism is alive.

HI, THIS IS I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN. I AM GOING TO REVEAL SOMETHING TO YOU GUYS - SORRY.

THIS WAS ALL A TEST. I AM A COLLEGE STUDENT IN A SOCIOLOGY CLASS AND MY GREAT IDEA WAS TO USE BLOG DISCUSSIONS TO INCITE AND EXAMINE ISSUES ON RACE. THEN WE PSYCHO-ANALYZE THE RESPONSES. SO ALL OF YOU WERE PART OF A TEST. I AM NOT GREEN EYED AND LIGHT SKIN. NOT MARRIED. I WISH I WAS. NOT, BY FAR, RICH. I HAVE NO MONEY JUST STUDENT LOANS. I STARTED THE DEBATE WITH SILLY REMARKS ON ZAHARA'S CLOTHES AND ESCALATED IT TO RACIAL STEREOTYPES. MANY OF YOU HAVE FALLEN INTO THE EXACT PATTERNS WE THOUGHT YOU WOULD AND SOME OF YOU DID NOT. IT IS A FASCINATING STUDY.

MY THESIS WAS ONE WHICH WONDERED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF N A COMPLETELY INNOCENT BLOG, A PERSON INTRODUCED RACE AND WHAT THE RESPONSES WOULD BE BASED ON HOW I LED THE CONVERSATION. I THOUGHT A BRANGELINA BLOG WAS A GREAT PLACE TO DO THIS BECAUSE OF THE KIDS' MIXED RACE.

MY CLASS AND I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE DEBATES CLOSELY. IT REVEALS SO MUCH ABOUT RACE IN AMERICA - BLACKS ON BLACKS, WHITES ON BLACKS, CULTURE AGAINST CULTURE. IT IS AMAZING. IT BRINGS OUT THE UGLY IN ALL OF US. IT ALSO BRINGS OUT THE PRETTY TOO.

I AM SO SORRY IF YOU FEEL MANIPULATED AND MISLED. I FEEL LIKE I JUST PUT YOU THROUGH AN EPISODE OF PUNK'D. I ALSO USED SEVERAL OTHER ALIASES ON THIS BLOG TO GET THE DEBATE GOING WHEN IT WAS NOT GOING WELL. SO THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE EXPERIMENT - ONE CAN MANIPULATE IT TO FIT THE AGENDA. THIS I DISCOVERED AT THE END OF MY RESEARCH. I ALSO USED ANOTHER BLOG ON ANOTHER SITE FOR RESEARCH ALSO AND THE VERY SAME THING HAPPENED. THAT TOPIC WAS HOMOSEXUALITY.

ALL IN ALL, IT WAS QUITE INTERESTING. MY ASSIGNMENT IS OVER. I WILL NOT POST AGAIN CAUSE I HAVE TO GET BACK TO - YOU KNOW - STUDYING.

BUT THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR INPUT. WHAT THIS SAYS IS AMERICANS ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT RACE. AND MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD SIGN. MAYBE THERE IS HOPE FOR THE COUNTRY IN THE END. MAYBE THROUGH THE UGLINESS SURFACING, WE CAN ALL LET GO OF OUR CONNECTION TO INDIVIDUAL GROUPS, ONLY TO BECOME PART OF THE HUMAN RACE AS A WHOLE.

WITH THIS I WISH YOU ALL PEACE AND FUN. ENJOY THE BLOG. AND DON'T WORRY, I WON;'T POST ANYMORE, MY PROFESSOR FORBIDS ME TO DO SO ONCE THE ASSIGNMENT IS COMPLETED- FOR THE GOAL WAS TO REACH AN ASSESSMENT BY THIS DATE.

BEST TO ALL OF YOU. KEEP THE PASSION ALIVE!

Good to hear from you Be sane! I usually use Wed. Mornings to catch up on my paperwork, etc.. But had to answer the above even if it would mean getting put on the "ambush' list. lol

You are correct . But what unfortunately gives us the bad reputation are the "nouveau riche" who are used to waving those dollars signs and expecting the water to part. It is parents who think that they are wonderful parents because they give their children everything that money can buy and let them do anything they want and then their child self-destructs and they are clueless to the reasons.

I live in Dallas, trust me I see it all the time . But as we all know that money has nothing to do with class. I met a rep from Cartier, Paris here not too long ago and we discussed the Hermes incident.

The people did not recognize her and though she is worshipped here, people aren't that familiar with either her looks or her power/fame. So, when Gail yelled that they needed to open because it was Oprah. It was meaningless. She was a customer who was trying to come in just after the store closed. They would have done that to anyone of us. Most famous people call ahead and make private appointments. Until they realized Who she really was the next day, they just thought she was a rude, rich American .... What people don't seem to realize is that there are a lot of very wealthy African women who shop there , Cartier etc. and spend a lOT of money and are desired costumers in all those stores. Not everyone in Africa is poor.

I have done a lot of traveling through the years. People are always surprised that I am also an American. For them it is always a compliment. Me, it makes me as sad as it makes me cry when I salute the flag.

BAMZ rocks!!!! i love the jolie-pitts.. awesome family, great couple...need i say more?!

Thank you Elena,I think she kept missing the point,and actually seemed angry that her reality is simply not mine. Angelina is Zaharas mother,and how she dresses her,should be her business and her business alone.This subject for me is now officially closed.

well, "I am not a chinnifer fan"...being alifelong learner myself i hope will be able to read between the lines and the pauses. are you done coding, then?

April, I know that One of my children is much lighter than the other , in fact she looks like an Anglo. I have been out with her and her younger sister who is beautiful but is a lighter share of Halle Berry and have people of all races compliment my lighter child and ignore my little dark one. Fortunately I have very wise children whose self-esteem is not based on appearances. and who also know they as flowers in a garden, they are all beautiful....Discrimination exist on every level because of human nature.

11:58 YES DONE CODING THE MOMENT I REVEAL MY IDENTITY AND THAT THIS WAS AN EXPERIMENT - THEN THE ANALYSIS IS OVER. GOOD DAY TO YOU.

I am sure you all know who Jacki Collins is. She has been studying and writing about Hollywood for years. She was asked if she thought Brad and Angie were for now or a lifetime. She said she thinks it really is the real thing. Of course she did add that time would tell.

Well it is safe to say,that was a nut job.

Elena, I live in dallas as well and will like to talk to you outside this site. You, mija and a few others have really enlightened this site with intelligent comments and shared your life experiences. This site has gone crazy in the past week or so and as such I don't come here as much as I used to. If there is a way that we can exchange email addresses or #. I can't put that info here. My daughter who is in college in london came back on her xmas holiday and said she wished a lot of her high school friends could get outside America and experience the world outside, it will completely change their attitude just like it changed Angie.

Love too much this beautiful family. To all haters GET A LIFE.

I Am NOT A CHINNIFER FAN

I actually don't buy that you are in studies...that is not the way you conduct research and inform the parties involved of the purpose of your research. If so, you may want to consider speaking with your supervisor about the process and ethics guidelines at your university. I am a post-graduate student and such research would not be conducted in this way. I can direct you to more reserach methods information if you wish...

Ange, please do not let certain people opinions sway you.You are a very intelligent person who has alot to offer this world.This world is made of various races ,cultures and religions.This is a good thing,people should take the time to explore these different cultures and not judge them without fully understanding them first.We are melting pots,no one is 100% this or 100% that.If anyone of us took the time to research our family tree back say 100 years or so,trust me you will be surprised at what you might find.Why do we have to label everything,we are all human beings,can't we just embrace each others differences and learn from them.When I first came to this site that was the arttaction for me and of cause Bamz.I have corresponded with intelligent people on this site and even when we didn't have the same point of view it was still fun.I hate the profanity on this site,it needs to go.

Does any body know Laney;s blogg address?

Hi everyone. I got plowed down with an old fashioned case of the flu :( Still not feeling too good but wanted to check in for anything new. Got to get my BAMZ fix.

Lots of great posts I missed yesterday. I'm sorry to see all the vulgarity though. What is going on with that? Somebody said it's probably just kids. Why aren't their parents watching them or monitoring their internet use?

TO I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN,

you owe it to the nice people on this blog to tell us your findings, right?

"HMMM" 12:34 THIS IS LIKE A BAD MOVIE WITH STRANGE PLOT LINES - MY REVELATION OF RESEARCH - ANOTHER OF MY TRICKS? OR AM I ANOTHER POSTER ALTOGETHER USING THE SAME NAME? JUST KIDDING.

ANYWAY, I AM A GRAD STUDENT. NICE TO HEAR YOU ARE POST-GRAD ALSO. CONGRATS. BLOGS HAVE NO LEGAL GUIDELINES THAT WOULD PREVENT SUCH RESEARCH THUS THE REASON WHY IT IS EASIER AND MORE IMMEDIATE TO GET ANALYSIS. I THINK SOON WE WILL SEE LOTS OF LEGALITIES CONSIDERING THE USE OF OPINIONS USED IN CERTAIN BLOGS. FOR EXAMPLE, COULD IT TECHNICALLY BE CONSIDERED PLAGIARISM IF I USE YOUR COMMENT IN A THESIS PAPER? ARE YOU THE AUTHOR OF SUCH COMMENTS? DOES INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY APPLY TO BLOG COMMENTS? WHO KNOWS, IN THE FUTURE, A COURT OF LAW MAY FIND IT SO. ALL FASCINATING QUESTIONS, NO? I AM EXCITED BY THE WORLD OF BLOGGING AND HOW IT WILL REDEFINE SO MUCH OF WHAT WE KNOW. ALSO EXCITED BY THE NEW RULES AND STRUCTURE WHICH WILL BE INEVITABLY IMPOSED ON BLOGGING. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WATCH THIS WITH OUR VERY EYES. ANYWAY, I MUST RUN SOON BUT JUST THOUGHT I'D RESPOND.

ANY RESEARCH INFO YOU HAVE TO SHARE IS APPRECIATED. ALTHOUGH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I AM BOMBARDED WITH INFO.

BEST TO YOU.

Get well, dolphingirl!

:-)

you ought to know,NOT CHINNIFER FAN, that the mere nickname you used biased your "research"

Not that BAMZ fans deny we're such an interesting group of intelligent people.

Right on, exactly! hee hee.

I only have a bachelor's degree which I got back in '94 before the WWW got so big. But I had internal e-mail at the university. It's hard to imagine how you into get to graduate school when you don't even know the basics about internet etiquette. It's been pointed out a number of times that it's rude to yell but I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN keeps doing it. It causes too much eye strain.

EXACTLY, I KNOW - THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH "RESEARCH" IT CAN BE SWAYED EITHER WAY DEPENDING ON THE QUESTIONS YOU ASK OR HOW YOU PROPOSITION YOURSELF. EVEN DOCUMENTARIES WHO CLAIM TO BE SLICE OF LIFE AND TRUE TO THE SUBJECT ARE IN ESSENCE SUBJECTIVE IN POINT OF VIEW. CAN ANY HUMAN BE TRULY OBJECTIVE? DOES CIRCUMSTANCE, CONTEXT, AND OUTSIDE INFLUENCE PLAY A ROLE IN ANALYSIS? MAYBE MY NEXT TOPIC, HUH? TAKE CARE.

2:05: GIVEN THAT THE WAY I PROPOSITION MY "SELF" DETERMINES THE OUTCOME OF WHAT FEEDBACK I GET IN RETURN - PLAYING WITH CHARACTERS (EXCLAMATION POINTS, CHARACTER CASE IS VERY IMPORTANT) ( IN THIS CASE MY "SELF" BEING WHAT YOU SEE OF ME: HOW I WRITE MY COMMENTS AND HOW I PRESENT THEM VISUALLY AND OTHERWISE). IN OTHER POSTS WHERE I COMMENTED UNDER ALIASES, I USED LOWER CASE LETTERS AND THEY WERE NOT AS AGRESSIVE AS THESE. THE "CHARACTER" COMES OFF AS COMPLETELY AGRESSIVE THUS INCITING MORE COMMENTS TO THE POINTS MADE. ANNOYING, HUH? Now, I will speak like this (lower case) AS OPPOSED TO THIS (UPPER CASE). Etiquette. It's like elbows on the dinner table, no? Thanks for your feedback.

Lainey's: laineygossip.com (she is quirky and fun--for those who can take her wry sense of humor--she is a BAMZ fan, so I wouldn't recommended for Aniston culters) If you search Pitt, Jolie, or Aniston you can read her take on the whole saga.

Elena on racism:
I just came back from Budapest two days ago on business, and was reminded that this former eastern-block country is still struggling. People there are very sweet and passionate...

My ex-sister-in-law (she divorced my husband's brother) is a black woman from Madagascar, so her daughter who is half caucasian (French) is beautiful, olive-colored skined, and could pass as some Arab princess (!). Several years ago this Malagasy woman was on Paris subway with her baby, and a stranger approached her and said, "How much do you charge for babysitting?", assuming she was a nanny to her own baby (who is much lighter in skin than her mother). Albeit an honest mistake, it was extremely insulting to her, and I really felt for her. And France is a country so diverse and 'mature' as a society, if one could call that. Yes, it does exist everywhere, I'm said to say....

ah, you're younger than me dolphingirl :-) got mine in 91.

to NOT-CHINNIFER FAN (your name aggravates my eecummings style, lol) your next topic maybe how lonely the world is getting and how fan posts project who's getting by and who's just flailing in the quicksands

Be sane, I ADORE Lainey & Laineygossip.com! I spend TOO much time there lol. As personally biased as she can be (be it good or bad) about certain celebs, she doesn't let that stand in the way of defending the ones she can't stand if/when she doesn't buy something negative said about them, and she doesn't allow her affection for one to excuse/overlook an action of theirs if she know's they mucked up.

Someone want a good read, and a more truthful journey through the Aniston-Pitt marriage, onto the Jolie-Pitt family stand? put the kiddies to bed, get some beverages, some snacks, a comfy spot, and go the Laineygossip,com, Put the name Brad in the searh box, and let it take you back to the begining of the end of Aniston-Pitt. Damn good stuff!....."and barely a mentions of Angelina throughtout and on up until JA filed divorce........so SO validating".

jpf

Thanks for the link Be Sane and further info regarding site Jpf.

exactly...i bet we are pretty close in age. I waited a couple years before going back to school....born in 1970.

I AM NOT A CHINNIFER FAN....regardless of what any of your motives for anything might be, trying to read text in all caps on a computer monitor causes eyestrain and is therefore in considerate of others.

dolphingirl, i'm a year....younger! :-)

i noticed that on the maddox judo story some posts under 'becky' was beginning to incite racial reactions again. could it be our friend NOT CHINNIFER? hmm.

I wouldn't doubt it. I don't buy his/her story. When I did my undergrad research all of my subjects knew they were participating in research and they were also informed of the nature of the study. I can't believe professors would have students conducting research without getting consent. It was a big deal back then to get consent or you couldn't use the data.

exactly :-)

i was away for a while too and didn't know jared's required email addresses now. good idea, esp when things get hot in this kitchen. (and i don't just mean catfights but look what ange and rica whipped up hahaha...)

Those stupid and self-righteous
people who are wrongly attacking Brad
and Angelina on the false adultery rumors
should be disgusted and horrified with
themselves. I agree, adultery is wrong.
But Brad and Angie did NOT committ
adultery. Why won't the Jen fans let this
tabloid lie go? This false rumor is their
entire foundation for hating Brad and
Angelina. So stupid. Tabloids are full
of crap and lies. Brad and Angie's romance
began AFTER he and Jen broke up. Angie
was not the one responsible for that marriage
falling apart and ending. She and Brad
did NOT act nor acknowledge their
natural attaraction to each other on
the set of Mr. and Mrs. Smith because
he was unavailable at the time. Believe it
or not, Brad and Angelina do have moral
values. Not all celebrities are corrupt.
Yes, I know Angie has done some
bad things in her past...but that is the past.
She is a good woman now. Being a mother
and a humanitarian has gradually transformed
her into the amazing woman she is today.
Jennifer wrecked her own marriage. She
never deserved Brad in the first place.
Don't even get me started on what a liar
and a fraud Jennifer is! The media is
corrupt and so is Jennifer, that is why they
favor her.
I also think the discussions and debates
over race are really crazy. Brad and Angie
are a gorgeous and multicultural family.
I think it is great they adopted children
from other races and nations.

I hope Brad and Angie have found true love,
happiness, and success together. As for
Jennifer...what goes around, comes around.
She will be punished for impersonating a
victim, because she is no victim and is
certaintly no sweetheart! Everything
about Jennifer is fake and contrived.
Everything she says and does is conniving
and calculated. It is a tribute to what
a horrible woman she is, that her fans
are so despiscable.

I hope Brad and Angie last forever.
They are hands down, the hottest
Hollywood couple ever! Though,
I think Brad should go back to his blonde
hair. He was an adonis with the blonde
hair. With the dark hair, he just looks
slightly hotter than your average joe.
But he still tied with Johnny Depp as being
the sexiest guy in Hollywood. Anyway,
who cares about looks. I love Brad and
Angie for their personality.

Mary I would love to meet you or at least make personal contact . Actually I would love to meet any one of you for one reason or another. Does Jared forward e-mail information???? We could somewhere in Dallad. I live in the Preston-Oak Lawn area . Equal distance from Eatzie - Whole Foods and Highland Park Village. You??

Pf I am not impressed by much but I am impressed by intellect , intellectual and emotional... So Lainey has impressed me on both counts. I have read her newsletter and have communicated with her many times on a personal level and we are defintely on the same page. Yea I know. the haters will come out like sharks and the scent of blood. But what I appreciate about her is the same thing I appreciate about all of you. She can see all the stuff that is outside the box. And maybey that is what differentiates us. We are taught to only color within the box. But life teaches that reality is not like that .

It is not just about people like Jen, Angie or Brad but it is about everything . There are the puppet masters and the puppets. Angie and Brad are pupppets as we are. Except we are the audience and they are on the stage.....It is the games people play and the people who choose not to. Brad first and then Angie decided to choose their destiny vs. having their destiny be chose for them. Being married to tp the curren t " america's sweetheart " as nointed by the media is not the same as real life. Maybe that is what Hollywood's puppet masters deameed bankable but that is not how it played. If you have ever felt passion and experienced true love you will understand why Brad and Angie are togethe r. If you have never experienced this then I hope someday you will. It defintely us akin tio flying . Except there is no plane.

I am considered a very desirable woman based on my looks. The majority of men who hit on me are the men who are married to the kind of women who dump on us and on Angelina. Women who have yet to learn that a woman can fake an orgasm but she cannot fake passion and love. No. I do not give these men the time of day . But my saying no does not stop them....They move on to someone who feels just as empty as they do,

Ange and Rica and Exactly and Anonymouns and Brangelina and all of you are completely retarded. Give me a break. Why all this catfights. The Brangelina Crew of over the hill women who post here are the ones creating tension. You guys are like a mafia. That is why you get so many hateful comments. No one can disagree with any of you. How pathetic. I read these posts and you women or men whatever you are are sad. Brangelina needs to get bodyguards becasue of you morons and stalkers.

Also you can put in any stupid emails and it allows you to post. I never put my real email because of stalkers like you morons. get a life and accept the fact that people will disagree with you. And this Ange girl sounds completely retarded. Yeah, let's talk about Maddox grew an extra inch and ooh, Zahara's new sweater instead of important stuff that som posters talked about. WTF? Geez. Get a life.

Fuschia.... you are an idiot. You are clueless about everything you brought up . If you are this clueless in your daily life and relationships then , don't be surprised that people you care for move on and leave you. So if you happen to be in a current relationship with someone you care for. Wake up and smell the coffer. Because either they are already getting what your cold ass won't give them or they are lookin around. So hold on to your heart , because there is a bumpy ride coming .

OMG OMG OMG OMG! Read this entire post coming from vacation. Well! This got heated. Where do I start? With the dumbest poster of course. Ange, I have some info I looked up on line for you moron. Here goes:

   Author Michelle Cliff, in her essay "If I Could Write This With Fire," attempts to make sense of the current deplorable social conditions of racial inequality in her native land of Jamaica. It is within this context of understanding the current social and racial strife in Jamaica that Michelle Cliff presents the intimate relationship between past and present. Michelle Cliff, in an ontological manner attempts to unmask the current phenomena of racial strife in Jamaica by considering and examining the disdainful legacies of slavery brought upon by ruthless European colonialism in the Americas. Cliff, like many of the historians, sociologists, and economists which we have encountered in our study of Caribbean history, is partaking in an unmasking process of the Jamaican society in her literature in order to reconcile a ravaged Jamaican and Caribbean identity. Ultimately, Michelle Cliff’s desire to make sense of the Caribbean’s intricate social and cultural mosaic prompted her to "look back," and, as she states in her essay:

To try and locate the vanishing point: where the lines of perspective converge and disappear. Lines of color and class. Line of history and social context. Lines of denial and rejection. When did we (the light-skinned middle-class Jamaicans) take over from the oppressors. I need to see when and how this happened.1
            This quote depicts Cliff's distress and unease with what she coins a "hierarchy of shades." This "hierarchy of shades," which is prevalent in most of the Caribbean, relates social status and autonomy with skin color. Moreover, this "hierarchy of shade" suggests that "whiteness" is equated with prestige, power, and wealth while "blackness" is equated with a lack of culture, a lack of identity, and essentially a lack of autonomy. Cliff, by means of her literature, attempts to unearth the reasons why "many of us became light skinned very fast… traced ourselves through bastard lines to reach the duke of Devonshire, the earl of Cornwall." Thus, in an almost disgusted tone, Michelle Cliff discusses the advantages of having light skin by stating:

Those of us who were light skinned, straight haired, etc., were given to believe that we could actually attain whiteness, or at least those qualities of the colonizer which made him superior. We were convinced of white supremacy… Under this system of colorism, the system which prevailed in my childhood in Jamaica- and which has carried over to the present, rarely will dark and white people co-mingle. 2

Anon, eat me. That's all oI have to say with your Brangelina, ooh look they stepped out of a car. Ooh, they went to McD's Oooh, Maddox is playing with his Rubix cube Oooh Zahara dropped her bottle. WTF? Whatever. Moron. Certified moron.

have i called you any negative thing, fuschia?

why would i?

LOL!!!

WHAT A PATHETIC PIECE, THIS FUSCHIA!!

LOL!!

Fuschia, I am retarded and over the hill,so feel free to not read my posts. Sexy MF exactly what part of this topic is now closed didn't you understand, and I am agreeing with you also I am hands down the dumbest poster here. So feel free to ignore my comments like I will be ignoring yours starting now.

Ange, make sure you read this carefully - can you read? Or are you afraid to read it? Ha Ha!

Author Michelle Cliff, in her essay "If I Could Write This With Fire," attempts to make sense of the current deplorable social conditions of racial inequality in her native land of Jamaica. It is within this context of understanding the current social and racial strife in Jamaica that Michelle Cliff presents the intimate relationship between past and present. Michelle Cliff, in an ontological manner attempts to unmask the current phenomena of racial strife in Jamaica by considering and examining the disdainful legacies of slavery brought upon by ruthless European colonialism in the Americas. Cliff, like many of the historians, sociologists, and economists which we have encountered in our study of Caribbean history, is partaking in an unmasking process of the Jamaican society in her literature in order to reconcile a ravaged Jamaican and Caribbean identity. Ultimately, Michelle Cliff’s desire to make sense of the Caribbean’s intricate social and cultural mosaic prompted her to "look back," and, as she states in her essay:

To try and locate the vanishing point: where the lines of perspective converge and disappear. Lines of color and class. Line of history and social context. Lines of denial and rejection. When did we (the light-skinned middle-class Jamaicans) take over from the oppressors. I need to see when and how this happened.1
            This quote depicts Cliff's distress and unease with what she coins a "hierarchy of shades." This "hierarchy of shades," which is prevalent in most of the Caribbean, relates social status and autonomy with skin color. Moreover, this "hierarchy of shade" suggests that "whiteness" is equated with prestige, power, and wealth while "blackness" is equated with a lack of culture, a lack of identity, and essentially a lack of autonomy. Cliff, by means of her literature, attempts to unearth the reasons why "many of us became light skinned very fast… traced ourselves through bastard lines to reach the duke of Devonshire, the earl of Cornwall." Thus, in an almost disgusted tone, Michelle Cliff discusses the advantages of having light skin by stating:

Those of us who were light skinned, straight haired, etc., were given to believe that we could actually attain whiteness, or at least those qualities of the colonizer which made him superior. We were convinced of white supremacy… Under this system of colorism, the system which prevailed in my childhood in Jamaica- and which has carried over to the present, rarely will dark and white people co-mingle. 2

To all the Bamz+1 Loving Chicas and Chicos,I will catch up with you later.

Hey JPF!!!!

I TRIED THAT LAINEYGOSSIP.COM SITE AND PUT BRAD IN THE SEARCH BOX BUT ALL I GET ARE UP TO DATE ARTICLES...NOT THE "WHOLE SAGA" SO NOW HOW DO I GET IT??

Sorry about all caps.

Oooh, Maddox is eating ice cream today. Ooh. Oooh. I have no life. Ooh. I am Brangelina fan with no life. Ooh. Zahara has new hat. Oooh. Can you retards hear yourselves?

Rica, you can e-mail lainey, she will forward to you the info. that you request. but if you have the time, click on those dates, you can read all the archives articles.

Thanks Estelle!!!
I'll try both. Have a good night!

Rica | March 1, 2006 04:15 PM

I failed to inform that it's in chronological order "by date", or as info was dispensed.....which is what i really liked because, it wasn't one clump of "this is what happened". It took *me* through each period of time, and cleared up SO many things, so many assumptions, and I really didn't feel like I had to take it all in with a grain of salt.

It's time consuming, and some stuff is skippable, but for the most part, I enjoyed reading/learning much.
.
jpf

Estelle | March 1, 2006 04:56 PM

"if you have the time, click on those dates, you can read all the archives articles."

Yep, the best way to get the full effect! I enjoyed it so much that I'm planning on squeezing in a re-read sometime soon...."I'm sure i missed a nugget or two the first go around lol".

jpf

JPF, Rica and Estelle, do you guys mind not taking up this blog with your idle chit chat? It's kinda rude. We are here to comment about Brangelina. This is why the post has 602 comments because of all this chit chat. Thanks.

Rica, btw, make sure when you goe there, don't fail to dig into some of extra's like the Marianne Pearl & BP blurb. Those things add to the fun of the journey.

jpf

JPF, Why don't you guys share your grocery lists too? Gosh. Anyone here have something fun to add about Brangelina. These women are out of control with their obsessive need for friendship. How creepy. You don't know each other.

Becky, Yes I want your fingers hmmm. Whatever. You wish. Ooooo Maddoz walked today. Oooooh.. Brangelina Ooooh. Get a life. Brad Pitt would not look at you in your wildest dreams - you Cheetos eating trash. Oooh. I am fat and Ooooh Brad is cute and Ooooh Angelina. Moron.

Anonymous 1 | March 1, 2006 06:05 PM

I'm going to say this once, and only once, so do your best after you read it to be nasty, rude, bitchy, whatever, "it won't matter. You won't find me responding to it". Here goes:

You have an issue about poster's WHO are obviously addressing one another....not you....about a subject, and you feel it breaks some JustJared posting rule, you need to email Jared and express that to him.

If he then chooses to inform this board that the rules are this, that & the other, and we need to take are discussion of anything that isn't at "first glance" regarding the subject at the top of the thread, then without an argument for me, I'll move on, but until such a time, I'd suggest you either join in, or move on yourself.

jpf

JPF: I just thought, without my contacting Jared, that you would understand that your behavior is not cool for the rest of us. It is like taling over someone. This is a Brangelina post. Concentrate on the issue at hand. It's not a pajama party.

But I guess if you girls want to continue to be selfish, then go ahead. What do I care? Anybody who is interested in less cliquish posts can go to Brangelina.net. Everybody is really nice over there. And everybody is focused on one subject - Brangelina not on making new friends.

8:48, You want me so much but you are a Fat, twinkie eating, Cheetos eating Brangelina addict so I can't help you baby. Oooh look at Mad Oooh look at Z Ooooh look at Oooh look at Ooh look at Ooooh look at my patheitic life Waaaaaaah! No man will touch me so I come on a site and Ooooh look at Brangelina Ooooohh. HAHAHA! Alright Becky now your turn for more sexual innuendos - I know it must be hard for you to be a Fat girl. A slimy fat girl so Ooooh look Mad is drinking water Oooooh

wellll...fuschia...i can always dream on...i did respond but i think jj blushed too much so he deleted my comments...anyways...dream on fushcia that my fingers are in your tint hole!!!

nnnnnnnnnnnnehhhhhh....neeeeeeeeeeeehhhh...
she's such a whiny girl she is here!!

I think it is fine for women to bond on this site if they want. It shows how much women can be really close with each other. So keep at it girls (Rica, JBF, etc) but just try to keep the conversation focused on BAMZ, that's all.

I love BAMZ. Maddox will be so cute in his karate outfits - I heard he is taking Karate or something. Can't wait for Z to start walking. When do kids start walking anyway? I have never really been around babies.

Alright Ladies, enjoy. Stay focused and keep positive.

Melanie | March 1, 2006 11:09 PM

Are you speaking on behalf of Jared? Seriously. it sounds like a directive. A warning of sorts, and sense that's the vibe that's being sent out, I'd like to know if you're representing Jared here.

jpf

Hey I did email Jared and he will be working on something to return this site to the pleasant experience, which I've discovered this site. Please be patient and hold down the fort against the roaches crawling out of the woodwork.

I've heard of lainey before but never took the time to check out her site or read her gossip. She's a blast and so hilarious with her smartass comments.

Though she is a bit cynical about Brad, she is clearly a fan of Brad and Angelina. But they are so sacred they don't get a free pass. It is interesting how she blew away BS rumors before Jennifer or Gwyneth's publicists denied those rumors. Lainey is rational in debunking unfounded rumors. Though she might be off in some of her gossip, I have noticed that she is spot on with a lot. With her reach and reputation, I can understand celebrity spies and insiders feeding her scoops.

I've been on the internet for 8 years and I've come across somebody like I Am Not a Chinnifer Fan before where he or she would stir the pot (the one I had seen was a racist). It wasn't until this pot-stirrer was beaten down that he slinked into pretending that his pot-stirring was an experiment.

It's so bogus.

Elena,

I almost forgot to comment on your commentary on Oprah's incident at Hermes. From the moment I heard the brouhaha about her supposed slighting by Hermes, I knew it wasn't racist. Though Oprah tried to pull the racist card, she was playing up her celebrity status of entitlement. As a celebrity, she thought she would get special privileges to be allowed into Hermes after it closed and while they were preparing for a special after-hours event.

So it wasn't even an issue of her being American. I would expect Hermes to treat any customer coming in after hours to be turned away. As a customer, I'm considerate of the employees working at the end of their shift not to extend their shift longer just so I can shop after closing hours. When it's announced a store will be closing in 15 minutes, I rush my butt to get my purchases. When I drive by a store that just closed, I ask if they are closed and I don't plea with them to let me in for a quickie. It's simply inconsiderate to the staff.

Business hours are posted. Since Oprah was on vacation, she could have phoned ahead to check Hermes hours or asked the hotel concierge to check for her. Many businesses will be accommodating to wealthy customers by letting them shop after hours but those exceptions must be specially arranged.

So I had no sympathy for her at all. It seemed the public didn't which is why Oprah toned down her accusation of racism from Gayle's initial inflammatory accusations that Hermes was racist. If memory serves me correctly, Oprah made it that she was offended because she felt snubbed - as if us lesser folks haven't been turned away from closing businesses. Sometimes, Oprah has lost touch living in her Ivory Tower.

In that same vein, Oprah took the wrong tact when she phoned Larry King all supportive of James Frey when the man outright lied about his experiences on the wild side of the tracks. Memoirs should have accuracy and truth in them or else they should be fiction. We have plenty of ficitonal books of addiction recovery.

I'm on the fence of how Oprah treated James Frey in her lynching of him on his show. Oprah got a lot of criticism and flak for her initial support of James Frey. I'm not sure she didn't over-compensate when she ambushed James. Oddly enough, reportedly Oprah's producers were told that James had initially pitched his novel as fiction before he turned it into a memoir. So why did her show act as if they were bamboozled? Or for that matter the publishing world?

Cindy 2. I think it would have been enough for Oprah to do a couple of minutes before a show about the book. It is still a well written book . I feel that the publisher had the responsibility of authenticating fact or fiction prior to printing and releasing.
BUT, the interesting bit about this book and Oprah is its connection to JENNIFER. Apparently Plan B had bought the rights to this book and this particular one was ONE OF THE ONES that Jennifer retained after the split. I think I read in the Gawker ... but it was in several sites. Jennifer made a deal with Oprah she would come on her show if Oprah would pick Frey's book for her BOOK CLUB and hype it up . ......As Lainey says, NOTHING in Hollywood is as it appears or by accident. Sort of like Jen and Vince have the same publicist. The publicists firm also represents some of the biggest stars in Hollywood which they use as leverage when they want to promote another of their clients...That is probably how Jennifer has gotten to be a presenter on the Academy Awards etc.....Or some of the magazines that she has gotten a lot of sympathetic coverage/covers are owned by the studio that has invested a lot of money in Jennifer and her movies. A lot like incest isn't it? Jennifer used to have Brad as a bargaining chip. Perhaps that is why is desperately trying to hold on to Vince. After the Wedding Crashers, his stock has gone way up. What other movie star her age will want someone with her baggage? Most her age want someone much younger anyway....

Acutally, I talked with quite a few coworkers of mine -- about how they feel about the relationship of Brad and Angie. It's really amazing to see how people start feeling more for Angie and Brad now. People are not blind. We can see how Brad adores the kids, how Angie changed her mind to want to give birth to a child for loving Brad that much, how they avoid unnessary PDA showing for lessing JA's "pain". People really start admiring these 2 nowadays now.
As of Vince, he may be funny in someones' eyes. But he surely lost the touch to me, and most of my friends. We don't really think by speaking fast and faster means funny. Maybe it is? nowadays? Well, he is at most only funny, not with a great "humor". Being funny is not as much as being humor, isn't it? Just a personal opinion.

Anon & Cindy. I find your comments about Oprah interesting. I don't want to stray from Brangelina here but since you mentioned it - here goes: How do you know the incident ar Hermes was not racist?

Have you ever experienced a store closing on you because you are Black? Have you ever been followed around a store because you are Black because the owner thinks you might be stealing? Did you hear about that Walmart incdent where the Black owner of a company went to pay an account and they refused to accept it from him because they did no think he could afford it yet White business owners who deposit money there (I think it was a deposit or payment on an account) did not get that kind of scrutiny. The guy is suing. I have been to stores with Black friends who , dressed in Hip Hop attire, and they get a totally different reception than a white person dressed grungy.

It is funny that people don't want to believe Hermes could be racist in that incident. And how do you know? You think Oprah, the richest Black woman in the world, has time to waste on an incident that actually did not happen? This woman is from Tennessee where she knows racism, firsthand and if she says she was discriminated against then we have to accept her word for it as a Black woman. Funny people are very comfortable with her when she is talking aobut great Christmas presents or the season's new looks but when the topic goes to racism, no one wants to accept it.

How can we determine whether Blacks have experienced something or not? How unfair. I have another friend whose mother was told by an Airlines porter that he would not touch her bag because she was aof a particular ethnicity - her mother who did not speak English fluently got afraid and said nothing. But she went home saddened. Racism exists and Oprah is one of the people we can trust knows from firsthand experience what racism is. In her early career, networks did not even want her because of her look and her color.

Let's be a little more understanding.

Well, it's late and once again I've made a personal commitment to read all 6,000,000,000 BAMZ posts because I do not have the discipline I need to resist. I have been doing so for several weeks, and I would now like to comment on the posts that I enjoy the most: #1: Posts written by Brad himself. (It might have been him the other night.) #2: Posts written by Jennifer Aniston herself.(Very doubtful it was her the other night.)#3: Posts written by people who struggle so with English that they say cute things like "I will now spill some bean." #4: Posts written by people who actually DO "spill some bean" and tell us insider details that sound like they might be true, such as someone's father meeting them and saying they were very nice. #5: Posts written by people who are happy for Brad and Angelina and the children, who leave one-liner messages like "BAMZ ROCKS!!!" That's really all any of us needs to say, including me, so Good Night, and BAMZ ROCKS!!!

12:01Am: Moron.

Josie NYC, I can understand where you're coming from. I have heard about the suspicion Blacks are subjected to. For the record, I, myself, am a minority living in White America, so I'm not immune to racism. I've had incidences where I felt I was watched more carefully because I was a minority in a store that's in a predominantly white area. My experiences as a minority would flag it as racism. I've been subjected to racist slurs by all kinds of people, including fellow minorities. So I'm not exactly ignorant of the experiences of racism. Plus, I do have Black friends.

With that said, I know better of a business trying to prepare close up shop and prepare for an event. I wasn't allowed to enter a closing store even when the employees were milling around the front door. Nor would I be presumptuous to ask. It's not fair for them to work beyond their shift without prior arrangement.

Just because one is a celebrity does not give him or her entitlement - though too many celerities, including Oprah, believe it's their status-earned right.

It is simple facts that Oprah came AFTER the store was closed at about 6:45 when the store closed sometime around 6:30 (the times may not be exact, but hopefully you get the point). Any reasonable person knows you can't go into a CLOSED store. That's just regular folks common sense.

I'm sorry but if Hermes was indeed racist, the NAACP and Jesse Jackson would have been on their case. And the public didn't buy it either. Oprah does a disservice to real racisim when she loosely pulls out the race card whenever she simply feels snubbed.

Maria, I'm with you about Vince. Vince seems to believe his manic, free fire schtick is funny. I'm not in that camp. Even to me, Robin Williams can be way over the top with his rattling stream of consciousness. But at least with Robin, he does have several golden nuggets in his routines. Vince? I didn't find him funny in MAMS. I thought Stephanie March was funnier when she drily said "You said goodbye" to Angie's "What the hell?" when she pushed the button to blow up the elevator.

Also, I would like to mention that I used to be so close to my Black friend's family that the mother would call me her daughter. I am not naive about racism against Blacks.

I'm not a particular fan of Oprah. She's overcome a lot to be sure, but I find her to be an opportunist. She flaunts all those gift-giving as if she doesn't get them for free as quid pro quo for free publicity by those companies. After all, anything Oprah pushes, her followers eat up. Granted she does donate a lot of money to charity so I won't go any further than that.

But foremost to Oprah is Oprah, INC.

Dear Addictions are Bad, 12:48 am---Hey girlfriend, Thank you! I forgot to leave an example of the posts I enjoy the least, but you did me a favor and wrote one for me! Perfect!

Cindy2, I understand your points. But if it were a White celebrity, do you think they would of closed the shop?

I just think we have to trust that Oprah is telling the truth. She has never made such a claim before. She does not seem to be that kind of person. She does not need to do it. She is a Billionaire. So if she says it, I think it must of been true.

This woman is a very bright woman. I trust she is telling the truth. Charity: Well she opened a school in South Africa, gave 1 million to Moorehouse, etc. Does Donald Trump have a school for poor girls he opened?

Oprah may not be perfect but she is doing a lot more than some celebrities. Just like Angelina. People complain about her work. What is Jennifer Aniston or Jessica Simpson doing? Angelina is doing a lot.

I guess racism is very subjective. It is not something you can prove tangibly like the store closed at a certain time so it must of been because they were closing. In a court of law, her argument would not hold up but that is the problem with racism, it is hard to prove. It is something a person feels.

I have had to hail cabs here in NYC for my black friends because late at night, cab drivers don't stop for Black men. Danny Glover had a similar incident years ago. It is a fact. The cabbies think the black men will mug them. Never mind that my friends are like doctors, etc. Now it is slightly easier for my black girlfriends. But how can you prove a cab did not stop for you? Racism is awful - at least I am glad you agree with that point.

Do you realize that Oprah has an underground reputation as a prima donna? She was voted among the worst celebrities by flight attendants. I've read other accounts of her demanding rep.

Make no mistake Oprah has a healthy ego to go with her status. She's no Donald Trump, but she's no down-to-earth Angelina either.

If you read the details of the account of what went down, you will see that it was Oprah trying to parlay her celebrity status - in other words, entitlement. And racism played no part in the incident at all.

Would Hermes had opened the door for a white celebrity? Why would they? Hermes clientele is already elite. They weren't letting anybody else in the door, white, black, yellow, red, or green. Their handbags cost thousands of dollars. They're not going to lose customers just because they refuse service to one prima donna white customer. They have plenty on a waiting list, which many of their merchandise are so popular that they require waiting lists.

Believe me, I don't need to know racism vicariously. I experience it directly. The most recent incident I remembered was when I was checking out lipstick. I wanted a specific color so I spent some time looking over the lipstick as much as I could. The clerk seemed to hover near me even after I had already asked her a question and I didn't need her help anymore. It wasn't even necessary for her to be around.

As a minority, I know we have to be careful with our calls about racism or else we lose credibility as mere whiners. Oprah lost my credibility for her.

And I know Elena, who also doesn't believe Oprah's racism excuse, is another minority. We're not naive.

Josie, NYC...Discrimination exist all over the world . I highly encourage you to see the movie :Crash...All races are guilty of one form or another of profiling and discrimination within and without. I am a racially mixed foreign born female so I am not ignorant on this subject. You know I have a friend from Jamaica who has shared that she and her family have had more negativity from African Americans than from Anglos. So do her friends from Africa.

As to Oprah, I used to like her but I think she has lost objectivity . I am tired of all the shows about how wonderful she is , her parties (which of course since they are in her magazine and or show will be deducted as a business expense. It seems like all the money is from the Angel Network which is money donated by her fans. Concerning her so called donation for Katrina, I am sure it was tax deductible and compared to her net worth just a drop in the bucket. It is would be the equivalent of us giving 10 dollars. I am sure she spent as much on her party where she gave everyone diamond necklaces and earrings.. Think about what that could have bought in aid. And her private jet , think what the cost of the fuel could buy.

Hermes like any other store is totally capable of being racist. Why not?

I guess being an Angelina fan, I hear so many people bashing her for being man stealing and mainpulative and yet how can they prove this? Were they in the bedroom with her Brad and Jennifer?

Same thing with Oprah, how can one disprove it did not happen, if we weren't there? Let's not let our feelings about the woman keep us from having an open mind about the possibility of what she says.

I don't judge unless I am actually there.
Likek Angelina, Oprah's personality should not take away from what she has done. A woman who did not have indoor bathroom growing up and was raped and sexually abused then a teenage mother and overcomes this and becomes a Billionaire. That's impressive.

Angelina, a girl who is from a broken home and had bad relationships finds love and finds her purpose in the world through charity t- that is impressive. Even if she did cheat on Jennifer ( I don't believe she did) that should not take away from what she has done.

Same with Oprah - it does not matter what kind of person she is in terms of personality - her life is an inspiration to many. And she has achieved a lot and given back.

Curiously, I've experience quite a few bigotry and prejudice from my fellow minority African Americans when I grew up. I wouldn't go so far as saying those racism were more than from Caucasians. But it is interesting that I was picked on and bullied as a child by Blacks because they thought bought into that stereotype of a docile Asian girl who couldn't kick their asses. Indeed, because I grew up with brothers, I surprised them by whooping their asses.

Now, I'm purely a lover not a fighter!

I agree and know racism exist all over the world.

Since you all share your personal stories and since you don't know me, I'll share this.

I am impressed with Oprah because I, too, was raped as a little girl. I was raped by a family member just like her.

I know what it is like to overcome that. I appreciate that she has overcome it and turned her life around and become the richest black woman in the world and one of the richest women period.

It gives me inspiration that one day I can change my life too. Whatever Oprah does personally, I don't care. Her life and her struggle has changed my life in many ways. I know that I can heal because of her. She is an icon and a great woman. She has taken many blows in life.

She is my hereo. And I am a White woman.

With this I wish you all good night. It is time for me to go to bed. Take care.

Sure Hermes could be racist. But how could they be racist when even Oprah concedes that the store was closed? And it is a fact that Hermes was preparing for a special event for after hours. Facts are facts regardless of whoever tells it. Hermes business hours don't change because of Oprah. They know when Oprah appeared at the door.

They don't need Oprah's or a White customer's extra business after hours. Oprah should learn to accept that than to believe her own hype.

What happens in a bedroom between two people can never be determined separate from what either knows. But Oprah's appearance at Hermes wasn't a private, secret event where the time, place and circumstances weren't well determined.

If you want to continue to believe it's racism, go for it. But minorities who truly know the deal don't just accept the crying of wolf to be a wolf in the room.

Hey Cindy2, and Josie. I do wish Jared would number the posts , might be easier to keep track when you can only read a few at a time.... lol

I had a miscarriage while I was in Switzerland. Of course I went to the hospital. While there I befriended one of the nurses. She was from Portugal.. It suprised me to learn that in switzerland, the people who felt discriminated were the people who came to do the menial work from Portugal and Southern Italy. They are their Mexicans.
I am sure you remember the riots in Paris. The Arabs there feel discrimination. Gypsies have been discriminated for centuries , longer than this country has existed. And of course individuals are discriminated because of religious beliefs all over the world.

And finally, there are the untouchables in India, the lowest caste of society . They look the same but were born in the wrong caste.

/anon | March 3, 2006 02:12 AM

^^^^^ I agree 100% with your post Matey....and Oprah!!! Well don't get me started. However, I do have to say this much > I would love to see Oprah give one third of her annual income to charity or impoverished Nations/persons around the World! Hahhhhh! that would be the day!!!
If the USA, is anything like Australia, that donation would be 100% totally tax deductable, hence, to cut a long story short, given she probably has to pay nearly 50% of her income in Tax! well, you go do the Math. Angelina is so beautiful and I love in her recent interview where she said and I quote, "I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I didn't"....that is meaning, give any money from her substantial income that she earns.
Poverty could & should be "wiped out" in this world...and would be, if more people gave of their TIME & MONEY like Angelina. eg. Where the hell is Bill Gates and his big fat meaty wallet??? hmmmmmmmmmm He does heaps I know! but hey....come'on Bill, cough up one third of that annual income! and like??? Where does the Aniston stand on giving up one third of her income??? HAHAHAHAHA I do joke hey! Cheers BAMZ + 1 supporters. ":)

I didn't see your latest comment before I posted, Josie.

You have my respect and sympathies for what you've overcome. I don't want to think that because we disagree that we can't be sisters, so to speak.

I'm still cynical about Oprah and not a fan. Yeah, I'll watch her show if she has an interesting celebrity or a topic. But she annoys me still with her self-importance, especially when she makes it as if her words are so profound and Uma Thurman and David Chapelle basically have to nod their heads diplomatically to get her from milking that moment.

I guess I need to find my reading glasses ... I misspelled my name...lol

Josie, I am the one who spoke to the Cartier rep at a private party. I have spent enough time in Europe, specially France to know that about the only person who they might have made an exception for might have been Princess Di. But then she would have had her secretary call in advance and make private arrangements. She would have been to well bred to presume that they would open the store after closing just for her. It is not just Hermes but every business establishment. What sometimes is lost on Americans , regardless of color , is that people in France, Europe are not as materialistic as we are and what impresses them is not someone with a lot of money. I agree with Cindy2 that Oprah is used to not having doors opened for her automatincally. I think that her being perceived as a rude nouveau riche American might have been a thought that passed their mind . But who she was and her color was not a consideration as the she is not familiar to the French.

Oprah nouveau riche? She has been wealthy for over 20 years! Is that still nouveau?

Hey Elena,

Sorry to hear you had a miscarriage. With the discrimination of people of color doing menial work is something I'm especially sensitive about. I make sure I treat them nicer than people of supposed class, if only that people take them for granted and treat them as nobodies. In fact, it's those people that supports our society. So I chat with them a bit when I cross paths with them.

As for the Hindu system with caste, I'm flabbergasted it still exists to a certain degree. (I'm not an expert on India or Hindu so please don't argue with me on it cause I'll just let you win.) Siddharta came up with Buddhism that banished the existing caste system, yet Buddhism, oddly enough, never became dominant to supplant Hinduism in India. Instead, Buddhism became more entrenched in the East Asian countries such as China, Japan, Korea, Bhutan, Tibet, Hong Kong and southeast countries such as Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam. Very curious.

I, also, think numbered posts would help to keep track of where to read.

I'm not Elena but I think I can answer the question that nouveau riche means those who weren't born rich. That's all it means. Nouveau in the sense of having to acquire one's wealth.

Oprah portrays herself as the champion of women and the underpriviledged and very much into charity work. Jolie's involvement with UNHCR should be of interest to Oprah as a subject matter. Why is it that she has never had Jolie on her show to talk about the plight of refugees, Aids in Africa and the adoption of orphans? I would have thought that'll be something that would appeal to Oprah.

Nouveau Riche means New Rich. Usually refers to those who have just acquired weatlh and love to flaunt it - think Donald Trump and you get the picture.

He does heaps I know! but hey....come'on Bill, cough up one third of that annual income! and like??? Where does the Aniston stand on giving up one third of her income??? HAHAHAHAHA I do joke hey! Cheers BAMZ + 1 supporters. ":)
cb | March 3, 2006 02:41 AM

Actually cb, 2.41, I must defend Bill Gates. Bill Gates has given heaps. The Bill and Melinda Gate fund is huge - at least US$17Billion which is about 1/3 of his net worth from what I last read. And there will be more to come. Billl and Melinda are fantastic about what they give to. Many drugs required in the 3rd world country does not get much funding from drug companies because there's no money to be made from the people. Drugs required to treat Malaria is one good example. Before Bill and melinda Gates jumped started Malaria vaccination research, hardly any money at all went into that field. Bill and Melinda have made it one of their top priorities. they want to fund things which will make a long term difference. not mosquito nets though those things are of course extremely valuable in the short term but vaccines and things like that. Time magazine did a good write up about what bill and melinda gates are doing and how it is shaking up philantrophy everywhere because they are doing strategic funding. I absolutely admire what they are doing.

81 | March 3, 2006 04:40 AM

The power of the internet...i will email that suggesstion to her TODAY!!!

Let's see if she'll bite on that idea instead of some book of the month stuff...let's get some real issues on afternoon talk shows!!!

by the way, I love the discussion on racism. You guys rock.

Listen to all the Oprah haters. That's why she is a billionaire and you are on a celebrity post. She knows how to parlay things into action. That is why she got where she is. She is not beautiful like Angelina or some supermodel. She is an average looking heavy set woman with brains who worked hard for everything she got.

So many haters, its amazing. And you call yourselves women?

81 | March 3, 2006 04:40 AM

Oprah, for sure, she has helped and still continue to helped other people. Your comment, hit the right spot. Why she has never had Ms. Jolie on her show? A lot of people were saying that she's on Ms. Aniston side and she have the right on her opinion.

81:
"Jolie's involvement with UNHCR should be of interest to Oprah as a subject matter."

I like how you worder that question. Indeed. Why?
I don't understand that either, she had Lucy Liu, on her show (visiting about the reckage of Pakistan) and it's not a secret that Jolie been in Pakistan to help as well. One would think that she would be interested about what she has to say. And we all know that Jolie's been in a lot of countries to help as an UNHCR. You'd think Oprah would at least talked about it.

Oprah Fan | March 3, 2006 11:01 AM

I like Oprah...nothing against her...but come on some shows are truly kinda of...CRAZY...and you know it...be honest.

Hey, I applaud all WOMEN who have been through what she says she's been through and come out on top...not just because she is black/African American...because she is A WOMAN. As some of you know, it's very hard to be a WOMEN in this world today...very...so yes I applaud her for her efforts...but come on why couldn't she have AJ on to talk about her work with underprivileged children? AJ is a UNGWA and LL, correct me if I’m wrong, just went over there to tour the devastation. What insight could LL really give OW's audience? What are the other devastated areas LL have visited in the past 3years...come on

Why not interview AJ?

OW is so one-sided sometimes, blows with the wind, how to increase ratings, you scratch my back stuff, blah, blah, blah—WHATEVER…and I must remind myself…it’s just a talk show like this is just a gossip site…so in the end I just get over it. She / they can do whatever they want to do…

Again I like OW---just voicing my opinion…

Me again, yes some of the shows get crazy. It's funny some of the women on her show are nuts! like they worship her. I am a huge fan but I don't go nuts.

ANgelina: maybe Angelina has not wanted to go on yet. Angelina is not like this media crazy woman like Aniston. Maybe she is waiting for the right time. I am sure Oprah has asked her. maybe not. I can tell you that would be one of her biggest shows - bigger than Jennifer's crying fest.

I love my "Op" though cause she 's like "I am heavy and I am still fabulous" - I love that.

I am not fat myself but I am always on some diet so I identify with her whole journey.

I was very surprised by her friendship with Aniston. i don't get how a smart woman like Oprah would befriend Miss "My hair needs highlights" Aniston. How did they become friends?

Maybe they are not really friends and Aniston is saying they are.

April 11:37, I like your post. Thanks for sharing. People like to look the other way and not admit to poblesm. Wonder why?

Do the Indians in your country still speak Hindu by the way?

Lylian is correct. I do not know if you have ever read the book "The Millionaire next door " or "Rich Dad , Poor Dad". If you have it should answer some of the question.

Though adopted, I was raised by old world European parents. My parents always told me that with proper manners I could feel comfortable with anyone and anywhere regardless who they were or where I was. I was taught that no one is better than me and I am not better than others. It is about respect for self and others. That respect and integrity are earned and not bought.therefore it has no color or class. To get respect you give respect. Integrity is something one should never compromise, specially at the expense of your self -respect and that of other. Respect, integrity, trust are like one's credit rating. It is much easier to keep than it is to try to earn it back....

The expression of the "nouveau riche" is a deragatory term used to descripe people mistake who mistake money for class.

Unfortunately , rightly or wrongly, as a collective we Americans are considered a "Nouveau Riche" country. All about money at the expense of everything else.

Unfortunately, since I do live in the middle of conspicous spending I will vouch for that. The women work on their appearances, go to lunch and shop. We live in a very disposable society where often what is the most disposable is our integrity and respect--for ourselves and others- in chase of the almighty dollar and the bigger house , etc .

There is book that a friend of my daughter gave her a couple of years ago called "Retail Therapy". It is a great book as it talks about the emotional aspects of why people shop . Why are Hermes bags so in demand? Is it because they are best made purses in the world? No. It is because they cost so much money and because sometimes we women dress to impress other women. Quality is no necessarily always a label. Insecure men want the car, the watch, the toys, the trophy girl-friend for the same reasons, to impress other men and to attract the trophy wife. We want others to know we can afford a 20,000 purse. Is rolex the best at keeping time? is it anybetter than a timex? No. but it is expensive and very noticeable. It is says look at my expensive purse, bag etc. I am rich. That is nouveau riche. Old money is more suble. They don't flash their worth or who they are in order to stand out. They don't go to a store after it is closed and expect service.

Hermes does dicriminate. They judge you by do you look like you have money or do you look like you don't. The only color they see is the color of money....Why did it bother Oprah so much if the label did not mean anything to her? It is not as though it was her one and only opportunity to buy one. It is not as thought she does not probably already have if not one but several in different colors already (as well as countless other designer bags. ) Once in would she have them expected for either a discount or be gifted with one as so many "star" ask of designers? If they had charged full price what would have been the reason? Now if she had gone in during normal business hours and been ignored and refused service THEN I would have been the first to question Hermes. (Personally, I have learned to stand up for myself and remind a sales person when it is my turn or some else;s, My money is the same color as theirs.)

I live in a much smaller town before I moved here a few years ago and had the opportunity to observe an "old money" family in action first hand and observed how money with class handles themselves. They are one of the wealthiest ,most powerful in the country and the world. Because of them the whole city has not only thrived but is growing by leaps and bounds. They have made a difference in all the arenas of the city , commerce , arts , etc. They are very visible but if you did not recognize them, you would never know they were who they are. I have been in stores where they were shopping where they waited their turn just like anyone. They said please and thank you and they asked for price like anyone else. Yes, they drive nice cars and if you pay attention you will see one of their security cars following them at a respectable distance but it is not a limo or a rolls that they drive. They go out without make-up and wear Gap clothes and little that draws attention to their wealth or social position.

I am not agains having nice things. I like them too. But one has examine why they want something . Is it for themselves or for others. What is the motivation.

We tend to judge packages based on the wrappings and not on the content. Trash in Neiman's box and wrappings is still trash . Ultimately what determines value is not what covers the box but what is in the box.

Sorry about length.. been working on this a few minutes at a time in between appointments.

I enjoy reading some of these many, many posts, as I came in late into this continuing saga of BP/AJ/JA. I have never watched Friends(don't have time to watch TV) and never really paid any attention to movies by BP or AJ. With the bombardment of news about these three, I decided to check up past interviews to hear what they had said and after reading two from VF for AJ and JA. From what I read, I was amazed and impressed with all that ANgelina does and is trying to do to make a difference in this world. She inspired me to try to do something, no matter how small. JA, on the other hand, came across as someone who felt that pity is the way to go to get attention. My kids do that sometimes and you learn to recognize this. I have, since then, become a true blue BAMZ fan and wish them only the best. I sense that since Oprah is a good friend of JA, she probably won't have AJ on her show, no matter that AJ has done so much more in her humanitarian works. The good thing is that I don't believe AJ needs Oprah's, or anyone else's pat on the back to continue with her efforts. You go, girl!

elena...you got that right....some are really so pretentious and craves "look at me...look at me, i have things that you can never have!!"

i never have a thing for Oprah....i got this gut feeling that she's not real...ange and brad doesn't really need her anyway....we are here...the bamz+1 addicts....:) :)!!

anyways...just leave oprah at her oprah and go back to bamz+1 :) :)

loves bamz+1!!

Had a senior moment. I would think that Angelina would be the kind of woman that Oprah would seek out. She is a survivor and someone that in these days of kids who feel like outsiders and different be a model that you can take control and your destiny and change the course of your life and find happiness and fulfillment.

But I have seen Oprah change. Despite what she says she has become a Hollywood elitist. She panders to celebrities because they pander to her . If you look at her audience you will understand why she hasn't had Angie on. The audience is comprised of upper middle class women whose greatest fear is someone like angie entering their lives and upsetting the status quo of living the illusion of happiness and fullfillement . They are the "good girls" cheerleaders, etc. and Angie is the girl who was a knock out but with ratty clothes and weird make up that they all made fun of. We all know how cruel we females can be to each other specially in high school. It like going a high school re-union and seeing the ugly duckling coming in looking like a swan and ending up with the class hunk or living the life we all secretly envy and wish or have fantsies about.

I think all of you are missing the common thread between Oprah and Angie - they are both being highly criticized, for what? For no reason.

Women can be jealous of each other.

Oprah's fan base is not upper middle class, by the way. I would say middle class housewives. Yeah, Angie is not popular among housewives. Who knows why!

very cool, a see brad and angelina

Oprah fan…I wasn’t necessarily talking about JA although I didn’t see the point of having her on the show…what to discuss the break-up? In that case 75% of Hollywood should have appeared on the show.

But anyway…I agree with either Elena, JS, one of them…someone OW should be having on her show…(she use to do this when she first got started) are WOMEN like AJ and there stories of survival to overcome different situations, how to channel your negative energy toward something positive, accepting yourself for who you are and not changing for those around you but for yourself…

We wonder why our young girls even older women are so obsessed with the outer appearance instead of looking inside for what is beautiful. We women are very beautiful with all our difference…just look at all the post on JJ.

There are a lot of people who have not been on Oprah's show. Has nothing to do with how she might feel about Angelina. Brad Pitt's mother is a huge Oprah fan and I think there were some rumor that Brad's mom was desperately trying to get on the 50th B-Day celebraton show or something like that. But I don't think she got tixx. Brad has been on the show several times. Also, Oprah's hero Diana Ross is possibly dating John Voight. I don't know if that rumor is still true.

I do not begrudge Oprah her sucess. Nor am minimizing what she went through . However she did have one thing that many children do not have . She had one parent , her father , who cared enough to set boundaries and structure for her. She did take it to it easily . But if he had not stepped up to the plate when he did who knows where she would be.

Unfortunately too many children today have no one. Not just black children but children from all walks of life and color. Oprah had her father and Angelina had her mother.

You know what I wish Oprah would do? I wish she stopped pandering to celebrities and the status quo ... And yes, it is very subtle but it is there. She is a racist also. She is a racist because she infers by who she chooses to help that it is only the African Americans who are victimized in this country and there is always the references to slavery. It perpetuates or breeds the guilt in her middle white audience so that they send money to promote or pay for Her charitable donations and it perpetuates the victim /reparation mentality within the African American community.

What she should be doing is what Bill Cosby started to talk about and was castigated and ridiculed by the Black leaders as well as the people. Oprah who was supposed to be his friend never said a word in his defense.

I truly believe that all the scandal that came out about him had to with what he was saying and those who have their own political agenda.

We are all our own worst enemy. Look at what has happened in the Black community. Watch Maury Povish's show where you have a Black girl who doesn't know who the father of her child is and the 9th man to be tested ...Or the man who has 7 children with different women and is supporting none. Children who grow up without fathers and mothers who are interested in catching a man than being a parent. Grandmothers raising grandchildren and great grandchildren . Listen to some of Chris Rocks comedy routines where he talks about a culture where a man who has been in jail gets more respect than the man /woman who has just graduated from college.

I would challenge Oprah to go to an Indian Reservation and live one week in a shanty with no running water or electricity ....If there is a group of individuals who are truly been victimized by our society today it is the American Indian. Who is helping them? Not Oprah , that is for sure.

No, it not just Blacks... It is everyone regardless of color who lives in poverty. It is about race as much as it is about class.

As African American woman , Oprah could communicate the importance of accountability and responsibility. We are responsible for our actions. Blaming on our race, our parents , etc. does serve any purpose other than to cripple us from moving forward. Living in past serves no one as there is nothing can do about.

ANON 4:36, I know your post is an attempt at getting attention. I really wanted to ignore it because then I think people like you just go away. I really know you want someone to respond to you. I wanted to ignore you but I figure, I'll just repsond. It will make your day, I guess.

People are allowed to give to whoever they want.

Lots of Angelina haters criticize her for adopting non-white kids. I think it is her business. Is Angelina a racist? Is brad Pitt a racist?

People tend to give to groups they can identify with. My grandmother died of breast cancer. I give money to breast cancer because it is a group I identify with. i know the pain. Now, I should probably be giving to the MS foundation or and AIDS foundation or a child abuse foundation but I feel connected to breast cancer victims. When I go on walks and see the women like my grand-momma who are struggling, I feel connected. That's why I give to that one group.

Michael J. Fox gives to MS. he is a victim.

Christopher Reeve championed for his foundation. Tom Cruise gives to Scientology. Elizabeth Taylor gives to AIDS patients because her good friend died of AIDS. Madonna gives to Kabbalah (millions). Gloria Estefan does a lot for Cubans. Steven Spielberg gives and does a lot for Holocaust victims.

Is Steven Spielberg a racist? Is he a racist for making Munich and all his Holocaust themed films?

People give to the communities they connect with.

You claim Oprah is a racist. That is not even worth commenting on. This is why you are on a celebrity blog complaining while she is a billionaire with her own island and her own plane with unlimited power.

Call her what you want. Most people in business and in Entertainment are not listening. They love her.

Elena, bravo, very thoughtful post you wrote there.

I'm very jaded about Oprah but I don't want to further the arguments about her. Suffice to say nobody believes more of her own hype than herself. So I won't add anything more than what I posted last night and that last comment.

On Bill Gates, as much derision as he garners from his no-holds-bar business practices, I have to concede that he is making a real difference in the humanitarian field. Bottom line, he has stated he will be bequeathing the majority of his wealth to charity and not to his children. (POOR kids!) That is truly monumental. He's been heavily influenced by Warren Buffett, who has always been a down-to-earth and unassuming humanitarian.

There's lot to be critical about Bill Gates (mainly with his association with Microsoft), but charity work is fortunately not one of them.

Oprah has no hype. She has had consistently the most watched show for over 20 years. No woman in television has more power. She is one of the women in media with the most power. She is very influential and has changed the nature of the kind of congtracts women can negotiate in media.

I work in media. Believe me, she means a lot to us women in a world that is still very sexist.

Like any other super successful person, Oprah will be criticized. Her power is beyond comprehension so people nitpick and hate her for it.

If only they could look inside themselves and see what they can do to push themselves further maybe they would stop criticizing Oprah.

With power and money comes hatred. At least a little girl somewhere can feel super success is a possibility on that level because Oprah has proven it possible.

Funny when Bill Gates gives people take notice, when ANgelina and Oprah give - people say they don't give enough. Sexism anyone?

Also, you don't get to be a billionaire without being in many ways self-loving and even self-involved if you will. You must believe deeply that what you have to offer the world is important. Every mentor I have had has told me this.

So Oprah may come off as pompous and "full of herself" but in fact she is just super confident.

That is why she is Oprah, world renowned figure with a billion dollars in the bank and we are us. It takes a very unique human being to become Bill Gates, Oprah, or someone like Bono.

Talent is part of it. the other part of it is having this personality that is bigger than life (which otehrs see as conceit) that keeps you on the path to super success.

The sad truth is only a few can attain this. Oprah has.

Uh, Oprah's fan club can go to her website to sing her praises. We don't give a care!

"Her power is beyond comprehension " but I am sure you have heard of the expression that "power corrupts" . Yes, she does have a lot of power, but has anyone told her no one has made her God? How arrogant to think her agenda is the right agenda and the only agenda. I need say no more.

For the record I am Haitian. Question why is it that she goes all the way to africa to help when right here in this hemisphere exists the same poverty and need? Thank God for Angelina who looks for where there is the most need and not what serves her ego and agenda. As I said "power corrupts". Final word on this subject .

I like many others I know change the channel--we rather watch Ellen

Muse, March 4, 2006
I like many others I know change the channel--we rather watch Ellen

Soooo true! Oprah is irritating.

Angelina fans don't criticize Angelina's giving while letting Bill Gates pass. It's not even sexism.

Oprah has not been the most watched show EVAH! For syndicated shows, Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy have consistently beat her show in ratings. Daytime shows aren't even in the same league as primetime shows that pull in triple Oprah's audience. American Idol alone has 30 million viewers, while Oprah gets only 10 million. If a primetime show got only 10 million, it wouldn't last another season and would be cancelled.

What's with this glorification of Oprah to be the richest, most watched woman, most generous when she's not? If you find comfort in Oprah because she relates to you, fine. But she's not that great.

Something interesting about Oprah -
Is Oprah all about the ratings?

Tom_cruise_kills_oprahIn June last year Cherryflava reported on the story whirling around the US that Oprah had tested positive for being Zulu.

Seven months later Don4060 posted this gem of a comment:

I live in New York. Last night Oprah appeared on a PBS TV program hosted by (Harvard University Chairman of African Studies) Louis Henry Gates. Oprah's DNA was tested and she was informed that she had no Zulu in her whatsoever. She was matched with a West African tribe.

Oprah knew this when she made her comments the SA media. So she lied. She does this alot. Noone second guesses Oprah in the US. Her viewers obey her every command. If Oprah says McDonalds hamburgers have mad cow disease, sell your McDonalds stock now. Oprah says read a book, run to the bookstore now because it has already sold out. Oprah says cruise ship travel is unsafe, ships will sail empty. Oprah is a problem.

Are cracks appearing in the Oprah brand? Are people questioning her integrity - has she endorsed one too many products?
Hell it was only the other day that we found out that DSTV's Channel O wasn't owned by Oprah.

Disappointing sure - but now that she lied about being Zulu?
http://www.cherryflava.com/cherryflava/2006/02/is_oprah_all_ab.html

Nto Amused and Muse. Your comments prove to me you are all jealous of Oprah.

Dumb stats to discredit her success. When in fact, she has power like no o ther woman in TV. I work in TV. I deal with the names of major players all the time. Oprah is a MAJOR player.

I actually met her at a private function once. Very classy. Smart as a whip.

Keep hating her. Your dislike of her does not transalte to spending dollars. The mostly women who watch her and help the products she sells on her show (for that is what she does and Hollywood knows this - she sells products like no one in the business can) - those women who support those products are telling advertisers, and entertainers that Oprah is worth the investment.

She has been so since the 80's.

Kepp hating her. It's not grounded in any real Wall Street reality. The woman is a precious commodity and she knows it and she works it. And people in business don't f**ck with her. Something only men traditionally had power to do.

I think your comments are hilarious and just not in tune with the reality of who Oprah is and what she has done for women in this business.

Hate all you want. She is laughing all the way to the bank. And as a business woman myself, I love every minute of her laugh to the bank.

Brilliant.

Let's see where to begin... Angelina is a nasty skeleton looking, lesbian wannabe, incest driven, heroin user, homewrecking and now i am so disgusted with my own self that i have to spend every spare moment trying to save the world so that i dont have enough time on myhands to try to kill myslef again bitch. This is coming from someone who really liked her at one time and now has no respect for her whatsoever. As for Brad who is such a pathetic piece of shit right now i wouldn' know where to begin...oh wait i do. How about you grow the fuck up and get your own godamm identity and stop trying to morph into evry damm chick you get with ok? it's really sad that at 40 something you dont know who you are and everytime you meet someone you are even slighlty attracted to you want to become them and says a lot about you. Pathetic, loser, coward, imbecil, there are so many words to describe you that i cannot waste the entire post just typing them but either way you are not the man a lot of people thought you were including (im sure) some of your own family members as well as friends. How can you walk away from a marriage that you both decided to create and cherish and unite in front of the lord just because you met some whacked out bitch that is now trying to pass herself of as a saint? gimme a fucking break!!!! how did you not see past the sickness that this bitch is, she is like a disease and even her own father ousted her for being such a freak show (who the hell makes out with their own brother anyway? nasty bitch). That goes to show you even the few good men (or so we thought) who are left out there can be "hipnotized" by the sluts of this world. And what kind of woman has the nerve to get involved with a married man after 1- knowing her own dad cheated on her mom while being married and 2- meeting the wife of the man with whom she will be known to carry his child in just months to come. Such hipocrisy coming from a woman who said she would never have a child of her own because that would be taking the place of a child she could adopt...so what the fuck happened? why is the son of satan now soon to be born? did another one of your stupid mental breakdowns happened and you decided that having Brad's baby was probably the only way you could get him to stick around after he started to see what a sick nasty bitch you are? i cant call it. Now dont get me wrong i dont feel pity for Jennifer Aniston, i congratulate her on handling the situation the way that she has considering any normal human being would've gone straight to the bitch's house and knocked the teeth out of her nasty crusty ass mouth. This woman has been given a second chance to find a real man who can make her happy and not some lost, pathetic, insecure and confused little boy who still doesnt know who the hell he is. I know just like many of you out there know this little "freak show" will not last long considering Brad will need to know who he is again in about four more years and the fact that Angelina's girl IJenny shimizo the butch model)needs as much attention as the kids do, this train wreck waiting to happen is one of Hollywood's worst matches yet. I just hope for the sake of the kids (who are the only innocent one's here) that somebody steps in here soon and talk some sense to these two idiots who have no control of their own lives yet alone three or god knows how many more and wanting to take all these little kids on an unstable whirlwind chase around the world while searchingfor their own sanity and happyness. There's more stuff i would love to say but i just get angry thinking about it and they dont deserve my energy. And to all you losers who dont see anything wrong with what they did think about this...one day you meet your soulmate, your other half the person that you know is the right one for you and after years of dating and being married and going through all the ups and downs of life and marriage that same person who you figured would be with you until you both lost all your teeth has decided that your union will now be torn apart and your world as you know it will now crumble before your eyes...and all because he/she met someone they thought was a bit more exciting, sexier, clever or whatever than you. So all these years, all these ups and down were for nothing? You mean you coulnd look at that other person and then come home to your spouse and say hey how about you get a litlle sexier or we try this ecxiting thing or whatever but we do it together because when we decided to get married that was part of the plan working out all the little kinks life brings you...together.

to # 664 | Elizabeth | March 11, 2006 12:18 PM

just shut the hell up

BAMZ+1 RULES

wow what a snappy come back hahahah

Let me guess my little comment about your precious pathetic wannabe do-gooders bothered you?....sweetie i have a right to my opinion and the fact that you would tell me to shut up tells me you were disturbed by this and you know what they say the truth hurts lol....you guys are sad seriously...BAMZ+1= another sicko being brought into this world just what we need

Why are you ppl fixated on other ppl's life...I bet if you focused the time you focused on reading and stressing about someones elses life and what they do, you might actually be half the person you try to be

i still love you elizabeth, but lets set an example in how a relationship should be based on by example. Fuck these rich spoiled celebrities and how they live their lives. WHO CARES! I DONT THATS FOR SURE!
I love you baby!

#664:
Jennifer, I mean ELIZABETH, (wink)--it was very brave of you to share your autobiography with us. Hope it was therapeutic. Now please get down from the window ledge....

#670:
Oh Dear Addict you sure got me i was sure no one would figure out it was me Jennifer all along but you big intelligent person you knew it was me from the get. Well I am down from the window ledge now and ...well I ...let's see now that i can think clearly...all thanks to you...yeah no Angelina is still the nastiest whore of the century and Brad is still a dickless piece of shit. But yeah you're right it was therapeutic and just knowing the fact that a person like yourself who obviously has no real friends and has to spend all her time or his time on stupid little websites like this one obsessing over a picture that was taken of people she or he has never met, probably will never meet, and even if they did meet those two wouldnt give a rats ass about you and yet you come in here everyday and fill your boring, useless and pathetic little life with glee over talking and drooling? over their pathetic and meaningless lives. I mean just knowing that you took time away from glorifying those two just to give me some advice well i dont know what to say. Thank you I am cured and can now go on with my life and never think about beavis and butthead over there because i know there are so many other people like yourself who need people like Brad and Angelina so that they can give meaning to a hobbit like yourself and keep you busy from trying to rid the world of human waste by ending your pathetic little useless life. Well i knew there was a reason for those two getting together and this website just proved it. Goodbye all and continue on your search for articles and pictures of Brad and his lesbian crack addicted, brother kisssing, skeleton looking whore to make you happy and keep you sitting in front of your computers and typing non-stop about how cute they and the kids look, if that's what it takes to keep you all alive and breathing air than so be it. Quik tip they will be giving Angelina an enema at the hospital on the 15th of April maybe one of you lucky guys or gals can scoop up some feces and keep as souverniers../ wow doesn't that sound exciting? yeah i can see you all now just foaming at the mouth at the very thought of having Angies poop inyour very own hands. Aaaawwwwww.

# 671 | Elizabeth...ok Jennifer | March 12, 2006 01:48 PM

Jennifer or Elizabeth, whoever you want to be, If you think this blog is a "stupid little website"....why the need to spew your psychobbale? Why waste your time? If you don't like it here, simply don't read it, don't response. That simple.

Zahara
She's gotta B somebody's baby....she's so fine
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# 671 | Elizabeth...ok Jennifer | March 12, 2006 01:48 PM

So much hate and cruel. please see a doctor

hahahahaha....this was great entertainment for this weekend. I gotta admit i wasn't too happy knowing the fact that i was going to be stuck at home with the flu this weekend but after being so bored outta my mind, getting on the net and seeing what kind of looneys there are out here (i.e. i mean you all) and deciding to join in on the fun i kinda see why you all do this stuff. Well actually i cant see myself spending more time on something like this ever again and unlike most of you who after taking the time to read more of these entries have realized that you come here on a daily basis and stay on for hours to come. Seroisly though it was really fun to see how deep you guys get in this stuff like you actually know these people. You do realize there is a thin line between reality and dream world. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie don't give a damm about you and if i may be frank they especially dont like the people who feed into this whole stalkarazi crap. Do you think they care that you think they look cute as they exit a plane when they wish they coulkd rip the camara right off the person who just shot those pictures. They cherish their privacy and you sickos just sitting here obsessing over their every move is the main reason why the ratzies act they way they act. Get the hell off your fat asses and get a freaking life, make some friends, go to the malls, to a club, see a movie, talk to someone but GET AWAY FROM YOU COMPUTERS NOW. There is a life out there for you, you dont have to live through somebody else's eyes your life is not so pathetic that is has to come to this ok? there is hope for you yet. Now with that said i wish you all the best, may be i will stop by again someday to see if any of you have decided to brave the great world and get a life you know who you are. I know there are some sane people who have a comment about the situation and may want to express those views but come on some of you are freaking me out seriously! I do hope some of you make it out of this misery world you have made for yourselves and see how much fun your own lives can be...well until then it was fun becoming a pathetic little hobbit for a weekend and i hope i never have to do it again. Ciao babies!!!

#664, #671,#675,etc, etc...

I did read somewhere that Jennifer Aniston had the flu this week-end...no other way to explain it. Who else could be bothered to read 675 BAMZ posts, 30% of which they seem to have passionately written themselves, just to criticize all the little people with no lives for doing the same thing?

Elizabeth, please get back to the hospital as quickly as possible.

Dear Addict I find it extremely amusing that you and for what i can see a couple of other bloggers seem to have a problem with the way i view this whole Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt thing...yet you all dont think that spending an awful lot of time (oh i dont know i'd say about all your time actually) reading, writing, basically breathing this couple who couldnt care less about what the hell you all have to say. Commenting all day and all night long on their everyday lives, you sit in front of your computers and you basically wait just to see if a new pic has been posted just so that you all can sit there and comment for another three or four hours like it gives spme kind of meaning to your own lives after that you sit and hover, in between taking certain breaks for showers and other necessities i hope, and wait for another pic to post to start this pathetic cycle again....and i am the one who needs to go to a hospital? Seriously funny stuff guys, i seriously believe your views are distorted and you should not seek help professionally but definetely try living your own lives as sad as they may be and maybe you can make your own insteresting things happen instead of living of other people's highs. you are all basically a few steps away from stalking (if some of you aren't already) i mean seriously would you like to have more than four or five maybe even just two of your co-workers or classmates sitting around in their homes and posting on a blog on your everyday life and everything that you do? think about how sick you would feel to know that these people spend all this time obsessing about you and everything you do. they even have pictures of you going to the store, and going shopping and throwing out the trash? what kind of sick perverts are these peope you would think because why the hell are all sitting around commenting on your life when it's yours and nobody else's business right? why the hell cant they get own lives and comment on that? wow talk about crazy right? yeah that's exactly what you all do...except multiply that by about a million. I might have been a bit harsh with the other postings but i just let myslef get carried away on a subject that i have been hearing about for months and finally was able to express the way i feel without turning it into a whole debate of good versus bad like i have witnessed in my office. All this time at work i feel like these people are simply pathetic for they way they continously talk about these people they dont know day in and day out but wow i have tapped into uncharted territory when i found this website and the million others that came up after my search...let'sjust say this what you do cannot be healthy please try living your own lives and not someone else's it's really disturbing to know that there are so many obsessive mind's out there focused on other people when really they should be focussing on their own trials and tribulations.

Wow Elizabeth, you sure told us. You have made me realize what a pointless thing is. What have I been doing? My God, What have I become? Oh, Why?Why? why Didn't I see it Sooner? Oh Elizabeth my Savior, the light who has shown me the way, thank you.

Testify, Testify, Come on Now and Testify. If Elizabeth has shown you the way this fine sunday morning, come out and testify. I am going to testify, I just want to say without Elizabeth I don't know what I'll be doing ten mins from now, probably writing on this blog but because of her stern but loving rebuke .... Iam Cured, I am Cured, I am Cured!!!! Listen to Elizabeth!!!

For there shall come to us one, who knows the way, the truth and the life of breaking the shackles of celebrity blogging. Her Name is ELIZABETH.

Elizabeth...

The problem is not your views, it is the way you express your views. Go back and read over what your posts... how much you have to say and the way you have said it. Is it necessary to be so insulting? Call people names? Use profanity? Be vulgar? Ridicule ? Also, you assume people have no lives, no other interests, no friends, and spend all day, every day on this site. What makes you think that? Coming on once a day takes an hour or so. I do this rather than watch television. Think of this as a choice others make over American Idol or a football game... it's the same thing. The big difference here, though, is the opportunity to interact. TV doesn't let you do that, so it is different. I will say you gave me something to think about when you turned the tables and asked how we would like it if someone was photographing our every waking moment while we take out the trash, etc. Good point. I had to think, but finally decided I would suffer with it because I would probably have millions in the bank as compensation! It is just so cool to connect with people from all over the country and the world at all hours of the day and night. It is such a great opportunity, even if all you say is "GO BAMZ!" like some happy people do, or if you want to take it further with a serious discussion or disagreement. It is how you say it that determines if you are viewed as credible or not by most others. Keep reading and writing, but use good manners?

AddictedtoBAMZ+1...I was at work today (I work in a restaurant/bar) and someone said Brad Pitt was on TV. I looked up and got a chuckle just like you (referring to comment in BP Flying thread) when I saw the NCAA game on TV between Bradley & Pittsburgh.

# 678 | Elizabeh

thank you elizabeh...yawn...so boring!!!

oh bamz+1 lovers....did u see those paps in the lake in italy..elizabeh should go and preach to them to stop stalking the bamz+1 family...

elizabeh, paps need u....not me...i am comfy in front of my computer talking to my bamz+1 friends....

elizabeth...ok jennifer...u bad!!!theres no point in telling them how pathetic they r just sit there and read ok? they dont have anything else in their lives so they have to romance the idea of pitt and joli because they dont have anything in their own lives to be happy about... i have tried to tell them that brad wont marry joki hes getting that cow and a calf for free but they wont listen so do what i do the majority of the time and sit there and read their 6th grade comments about what a family is...and one day when they find a man who is probably blind cause they r probably so ugly u have to tie a pork chop bone around their necks for the dog to play with them...and they fall in love and the guy knocks up someone else and they r horrified---maybe they will get the idea of what life and love is and not fantasy

So we fantasize about Brad and Angie? So? Big f----ing deal. It's not that we don't have a life -- it's just a way of unwinding and having fun. But you are obssessing over our obssession. And if Brad doesn't marry Angie -- so what? Neither are Goldie and Kurt, Susan and Tim -- yet they are happy and have been together umpteen years. Hey, whatever works for them. All I say is, GO BRANGELINA!!!

hey, u got to be kidding, R U sayin that JA is so ugly she has to tie a pork chop bone around her neck for her dog Norman to play with her? R U sayin Vince Vaughn is blind or Brad Pitt is blind, or both? Seems pretty unkind to me

685 and counting....lovers and hater...make bamz+1 famous....bring it on!!!

bamz+1 rules!!